Re: BestData Re: So, the modem....
On Friday, April 12, 2002, at 05:48 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Wouldn't hurt to e-mail bestdata.com and ask if the 56SX-2 or 56SX-2-MAC will work in the UK with the proper power brick. 9 volts AC @ 1000 milliamps or 1 amp. Small coaxial type plug. Should be easily available over there. The brick is made by an outfit called Condor, not BestData, so it's nothing proprietary like USR's power bricks. Too late but thanks for the info. I fully expect the response from Best Data would be 'no, we do not recommend using US products on other phone systems' which means it works but they can't be bothered to support it. I got the USR modem in the end, the tech guy was adamant it would work on anything I threw it at, the script he mentioned was even in the OT/PPP 1.0 package, although I don't know if it will run at 56k from that CCL, but I have the 56k CCL just in case :). Thanks for all your help but it really is better for warranty reasons/customs etc. that I buy a UK modem. Not to mention replacing the power brick, I don't think USR bricks are proprietary either BTW, I looked the power input spec up and it's just a standard 9.2V transformer from what I could tell. Soon find out :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find me a cheaper on in the UK that is guaranteed to work on a Mac from a reputable reseller and I'll buy it. Oh, foo. Isn't the UK phone system somewhat not sympatico with modems made for the USA? I've seen some PC-Card modems for laptops that will work pretty much anywhere. (Even a USR 28.8 with X-Jack from Scotland that a snotty USR tech support b!tch in Utah insisted did not exist because only Megahertz brand modems have the X-Jack.) Hmmm, if it'll work, you could have someone over here buy the $60 BestData one from Mac Warehouse then ship it over bundled in a box of something duty free like used Gore/Lieberman campaign T-Shirts. ;) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 07:18 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found a 56k USR FaxModem at a price I consider to be approaching reasonable that is supported in the Mac. It uses a standard CCL for dial up that, from what I can tell, was last modified in 1996. Big question is will it work wit OT/PPP in Sys 7.1? macwarehhouse.com has a BestData external for Mac for a bit under $60. Model 56SX-2/56SX-2-MAC. Works with PC also. They used to have a picture of the wrong modem on the page, now they have a picture of the _box_ for the wrong modem. :P It's actually identical looking to the $89 56SPX-2/56SPX-2-MAC which is the next model up with Voice features added to the FAX and modem. The cheap one comes with a Mac serial cable and some software. I bought mine to use with my PC. :) Just use a different cable and download the .inf file from BestData. I've yet to find anyone, even the PC side of the warehouse at microwarehouse.com selling the 56SX-2 for PC. They only sell the more expensive 56SPX-2 version. Two letters, UK. :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 07:51 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Hmmm, if it'll work, you could have someone over here buy the $60 BestData one from Mac Warehouse then ship it over bundled in a box of something duty free like used Gore/Lieberman campaign T-Shirts. ;) Nice try but we also use different power outlet sockets at 240VAC to you guys, which means a new PSU as well as the possibility it might not work on our cranky old phone system. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
I have found a 56k USR FaxModem at a price I consider to be approaching reasonable that is supported in the Mac. It uses a standard CCL for dial up that, from what I can tell, was last modified in 1996. Big question is will it work wit OT/PPP in Sys 7.1? If you can dig up the modem init string for it, probably yes. -mart -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 04:29 PM, mart wrote: I have found a 56k USR FaxModem at a price I consider to be approaching reasonable that is supported in the Mac. It uses a standard CCL for dial up that, from what I can tell, was last modified in 1996. Big question is will it work wit OT/PPP in Sys 7.1? If you can dig up the modem init string for it, probably yes. There is a US Robotics Universal script in OT/PPP that the guy at USR says should work. I can't really test it until it turns up but I'll let everyone know then :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
BestData Re: So, the modem....
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 07:51 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Hmmm, if it'll work, you could have someone over here buy the $60 BestData one from Mac Warehouse then ship it over bundled in a box of something duty free like used Gore/Lieberman campaign T-Shirts. ;) Nice try but we also use different power outlet sockets at 240VAC to you guys, which means a new PSU as well as the possibility it might not work on our cranky old phone system. Wouldn't hurt to e-mail bestdata.com and ask if the 56SX-2 or 56SX-2-MAC will work in the UK with the proper power brick. 9 volts AC @ 1000 milliamps or 1 amp. Small coaxial type plug. Should be easily available over there. The brick is made by an outfit called Condor, not BestData, so it's nothing proprietary like USR's power bricks. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
--- mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found a 56k USR FaxModem at a price I consider to be approaching reasonable that is supported in the Mac. It uses a standard CCL for dial up that, from what I can tell, was last modified in 1996. Big question is will it work wit OT/PPP in Sys 7.1? If you can dig up the modem init string for it, probably yes. Usually easy to find one. Get the Win9x .inf file for the modem (preferably localized for your country) and open it in a text editor. Search for CR and you'll find at least one init string. Copy that to the Mac without the CR and it will get things going. Tweakage of the string may be needed. ;) If all else fails just try ATF1 or ATF1D1 = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
So, the modem....
I have found a 56k USR FaxModem at a price I consider to be approaching reasonable that is supported in the Mac. It uses a standard CCL for dial up that, from what I can tell, was last modified in 1996. Big question is will it work wit OT/PPP in Sys 7.1? -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
On donderdag, april 11, 2002, at 12:56 , Mark Benson wrote: I have found a 56k USR FaxModem at a price I consider to be approaching reasonable that is supported in the Mac. It uses a standard CCL for dial up that, from what I can tell, was last modified in 1996. Big question is will it work wit OT/PPP in Sys 7.1? Of course it will. Any modem will do. Modems are pretty generic. Modems that are supposed to be not supported in the Mac can be made so by generating a modem script. There is a program on Apple's ftp-site for that. -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 12:31 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Of course it will. Any modem will do. Modems are pretty generic. Modems that are supposed to be not supported in the Mac can be made so by generating a modem script. There is a program on Apple's ftp-site for that. I actually tried that on my 7500 a while back (when I first stepped into the world of Macs) with an ELSA MicroLink 56k Serial modem and never got it to work. I am pretty sure this on e will though. CCLs work on any version of OT/PPP or ARA don't they? I'm just wanting to make really sure because It's £65 inc pp and I don't want to have to make up an excuse to send it back to MacWarehouse when it doesn't work. Getting it to work with IPNR will not be too hard I hope crosses all his limbs :) -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
At 00:38 +0100 on 11/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 12:31 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote: Of course it will. Any modem will do. Modems are pretty generic. Modems that are supposed to be not supported in the Mac can be made so by generating a modem script. There is a program on Apple's ftp-site for that. I actually tried that on my 7500 a while back (when I first stepped into the world of Macs) with an ELSA MicroLink 56k Serial modem and never got A few PC-specific modems simply cannot be made to work on Macs. USR is a good manufacturer, however, and should work fine. One note: £65 is a bit pricey for a 56K serial modem. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 01:04 AM, the pickle wrote: A few PC-specific modems simply cannot be made to work on Macs. USR is a good manufacturer, however, and should work fine. One note: £65 is a bit pricey for a 56K serial modem. Find me a cheaper on in the UK that is guaranteed to work on a Mac from a reputable reseller and I'll buy it. It may be expensive to you guys oer there but we have to pay a little thing called VAT, at 17.5%, on computer stuff here. That was including shipping, at £4 (24hr) as well. I am planning to buy a bit stuff at once (mac to VGA adapter and a new Mac DB-25 to Din-8 Modem cable as it's a PC modem package) which will take the lot up to around £76 in total. Looks like the IIci might go on the back burner :(. Anyone have a USR 56k Serial Faxmodem? I'd like any reports if possible :). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
At 01:32 +0100 on 11/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: oer there but we have to pay a little thing called VAT, at 17.5%, on computer stuff here. That was including shipping, at £4 (24hr) as well. Ah, right, forgot you guys have that nasty VAT. With that figured in, it's not such a bad price after all. Anyone have a USR 56k Serial Faxmodem? I'd like any reports if possible :). Have used several other USR modems (not a 56K, though) without incident. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: So, the modem....
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 01:42 AM, the pickle wrote: At 01:32 +0100 on 11/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: oer there but we have to pay a little thing called VAT, at 17.5%, on computer stuff here. That was including shipping, at £4 (24hr) as well. Ah, right, forgot you guys have that nasty VAT. With that figured in, it's not such a bad price after all. It's about the cheapest I can find it. VAT is nasty, you are quite right :(. Anyone have a USR 56k Serial Faxmodem? I'd like any reports if possible :). Have used several other USR modems (not a 56K, though) without incident. Damn. That £65 down the pan ;). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
