Toshiba used to make a 1/3 height tray load SCSI CD-ROM drive for desktop systems. I've seen them in Beige with a filler plate bolted on top or in combination with a slim 1.44M floppy. One surplus dealer had a pile of them without the filler plate in Sun Purple. I know they came in a 2x speed, probably a 4x speed too. They are sort of like a laptop drive, the tray isn't powered and the CD snaps onto the spindle. So if they came in a 4x version they might be just the thing for hacking into an old Compact Mac. :) ===== "The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets?" Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Vintage Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> The FAQ: <http://macfaq.binhost.com/> Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com