Re: ghosting flop

2003-01-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was wrecked in the process of manual removal. The
 drive also died...

Define manual removal. ;) Didn't you mention the
small hole next to the slot for using a paperclip
in case of an EMERGENCY need to manually eject a disk?

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Ghosting Flop

2003-01-20 Thread mart
Hi all,

In an LC, a flop was removed the wrong way. Now that particular flop is
Ghosting: 'pleaseinsert disk Btae.d'

 Problems are:
a) the LC is not here; I have to give instructions per mail.
b) the flop that's haunting the LC is no more
c) I don't know the cure :)

What can be done to get the LC back to normal?

TIA,

-mart



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Re: Ghosting Flop

2003-01-20 Thread the pickle
At 21:58 +0100 on 20/01/03, mart wrote:

In an LC, a flop was removed the wrong way. Now that particular flop is
Ghosting: 'pleaseinsert disk Btae.d'

Keep hitting cmd-period until it goes away.

If that doesn't work, restarting should.
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Re: ghosting flop

2003-01-20 Thread flawed jai
mart--
I reread your description several times and still couldn't get it
straight in my mind:
are you referring to the floppie storage disc that was written to, or
the floppie reader that took the discs?

you realize-- both discs and readers can be removed, and therefore
removed the wrong way!
is the message that's showing up corrupted, showing up when the reader
is empty, or when a disk is inserted and attempted to be read? is it
doing it with every disc that goes in? or with just one disc in
particular?



just trying to get the idea clear in my own head first.

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Re: ghosting flop

2003-01-20 Thread James S Jones
He ejected, rather than put away, a floppy disk. The system is asking 
for the disk to be reinserted as there were files in use when it was 
ejected or because the ghosted image of the disk is still on the 
desktop. When he tried to put it away, the system asks for it to be 
reinserted so it can be unmounted. It isn't clear to me why he doesn't 
just comply, reinsert the disk and unmount it...

Flop is apparently a Dutch diminutive (nickname, more or less) for 
floppy disk. This seems to be a near universal Netherlands behavior -- 
they call themselves Dutchies, for example. Unfortunately, it doesn't 
work that way in English and we become confused.

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 02:19  PM, flawed jai wrote:

 mart--
 I reread your description several times and still couldn't get it
 straight in my mind:
 are you referring to the floppie storage disc that was written to, or
 the floppie reader that took the discs?

 you realize-- both discs and readers can be removed, and therefore
 removed the wrong way!
 is the message that's showing up corrupted, showing up when the reader
 is empty, or when a disk is inserted and attempted to be read? is it
 doing it with every disc that goes in? or with just one disc in
 particular?


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Re: ghosting flop

2003-01-20 Thread the pickle
At 14:42 -0800 on 20/01/03, James S Jones wrote:

reinserted so it can be unmounted. It isn't clear to me why he doesn't
just comply, reinsert the disk and unmount it...

IIRC, the OP said the ghosted floppy was destroyed.
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Re: ghosting flop

2003-01-20 Thread James S Jones
Oh, right. I forgot to reconsider destroyed once I figured out what a 
flop was. I've had designers send me publications with links pointing 
to files on their drives. Billions of cmdperiod presses will 
eventually work, as you suggested. Stubborn, that Mac OS.

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 02:45  PM, the pickle wrote:

 At 14:42 -0800 on 20/01/03, James S Jones wrote:

 reinserted so it can be unmounted. It isn't clear to me why he doesn't
 just comply, reinsert the disk and unmount it...

 IIRC, the OP said the ghosted floppy was destroyed.


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Re: ghosting flop

2003-01-20 Thread mart
the pickle wrote:
Keep hitting cmd-period until it goes away.

Janet wrote:
are you referring to the floppie storage disc that was written to, or
the floppie reader that took the discs?

I was talking about the floppy disk itself (because I know there was a
floppy disk called 'Btae.d' in the package I shipped with the LC. But then
again, you're not that far off, because recently, I sent a working disk
drive (reader) to replace the flaky one. The messages are appearing after
the replacement.

James S Jones wrote:
He ejected, rather than put away, a floppy disk.

Indeed, indeed. This LC was sent to a user with close to 0% computer
experience.

 It isn't clear to me why he doesn't
just comply, reinsert the disk and unmount it...

It was wrecked in the process of manual removal. The drive also died...

Flop is apparently a Dutch diminutive (...0 and we become confused.

I'll stick to floppy disk :))

And I've just posted a message to the owner with a billion cmd-period
prescription. Hope it works!

Thanks!

-mart




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