Re: repairing my Braillenote Apex with my 6+

[Eileen]

Just to add to the last post, the pair button is right under the battery 
percent indicator on the status area at the top. Also, I change the typing mode 
to standard, so I can perform a sllit double tap to enter the 4 zeros and to 
activate the pair button. You don't have very much time to get this done, so 
that's why I get one index finger very close to the pair button and use a split 
double tap. Usually, I can pair the Apex in 1-2 tries. HTH. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi, no, the pair button should be at the top right of the screen. Keep in 
> mind with the 6+ though, that the screen is   taller, which means you have to 
> go up a little higher to find it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2015, at 10:22 PM, denise colley  wrote:
>> 
>> Somehow my BrailleNote Apex got unpaired from my iphone 6+, and I don
>> T seem to be able to find the pair button on the phone after I put in the 
>> code.  I’ve looked everywhere on the screen.  Have there been changes with 
>> the iphone 6 and 6+?
>>  
>> Denise
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Re: mlb app issue

[Arnold Schmidt]

I wouldn't call it often, but a little more than occasionally.  The thing 
is, it is happening when I listen on my pc, too, maybe slightly more often 
than with MLB At Bat, so I attribute it to some issue with their service.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "don bishop" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 1:47 AM
Subject: mlb app issue


I've been using the mlb app for several years with virtually no problem. 
Last year I don't think I ever experienced a drop out of the radio feed. I 
listed to the sf giants (every game).
This year I'm experiencing quite a few times when I loose the feed. If I 
switch to another station then  return to the sf feed the feed seems to work 
fine.

Wondering if anyone else is loosing a feed quite often.
Thanks,
Don

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mlb app issue

[don bishop]

I've been using the mlb app for several years with virtually no problem. Last 
year I don't think I ever experienced a drop out of the radio feed. I listed to 
the sf giants (every game). 
This year I'm experiencing quite a few times when I loose the feed. If I switch 
to another station then  return to the sf feed the feed seems to work fine. 
Wondering if anyone else is loosing a feed quite often.   
Thanks,  
Don  

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Recommend me a tv guide

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi, I would like to know if you guys recommend any TV guide applications. It 
does not matter if there are specific for cable or satellite or both. Thanks 




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Re: repairing my Braillenote Apex with my 6+

[Daniel Miller]

Hi, no, the pair button should be at the top right of the screen. Keep in mind 
with the 6+ though, that the screen is   taller, which means you have to go up 
a little higher to find it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2015, at 10:22 PM, denise colley  wrote:
> 
> Somehow my BrailleNote Apex got unpaired from my iphone 6+, and I don
> T seem to be able to find the pair button on the phone after I put in the 
> code.  I’ve looked everywhere on the screen.  Have there been changes with 
> the iphone 6 and 6+?
>  
> Denise
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Re: hope this isn't off topic

[Chris Smart]

uh yes Andy, after seeing the movie about him. By the way, the BBC did an
excelent documentary about him as well that didn't alter his life story
so much.
At 11:47 PM 5/31/2015, you wrote:
And do you know who Turing is?
LOL!
 
Andy
 
From: Chris Smart 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:17 PM
To:
viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: hope this isn't off topic
It's C a p t c h a and stands for:
"Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and
Humans Apart"
I ordered two items yesterday and wasn't presented with a Captcha at all.
So, if most of us aren't being asked to solve a Captcha, and a few of us
are, what's the difference between our respective accounts I wonder? This
doesn't seem like a change on Amazon's part that affects
everyone.
Chris
At 07:34 PM 5/31/2015, you wrote:
We tried to order late Friday
afternoon and got the captia.  I’d be ce curious if anyone else
has gotten a captia.
 
 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliph
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic
 
I just bought something on amazon today with the mac, and friday with
windows.  Neither time was I asked to solve a catua 
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On May 28, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Andy Baracco

wrote:

  
But that̢۪s a pain if you use the site often.en. Many blind people
use amazon because of the convenience and transportation issues. They
should be made aware that this is a barrier. And TAPTAPSEE isnâ€ââ„¢t
free.

  
Andy

  
From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM
To:
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Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic
Hi Larry. I don't think that's outrageous. I think flooding them with
complaints is completely unnecessary. If they did put captions in their
sign in, get an app like a TapTapSee, save the image to the camera roll,
and used to Pepsi or some other app like it to give you the caption.
There's really no need to say we should flood them with complaints,
especially since there seems to be accessible solutions.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin
 wrote:

Has anyone tried to order from Amazon lately.  It seems to us
that they have initiated captias in their account sign in.  If this
is so, this is outrageous and I think we should flood amazon with
complaints.

  
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Re: hope this isn't off topic

[Andy Baracco]

And do you know who Turing is? LOL!

Andy

From: Chris Smart 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: hope this isn't off topic
It's C a p t c h a and stands for:
"Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart"

I ordered two items yesterday and wasn't presented with a Captcha at all. So, 
if most of us aren't being asked to solve a Captcha, and a few of us are, 
what's the difference between our respective accounts I wonder? This doesn't 
seem like a change on Amazon's part that affects everyone.

Chris

At 07:34 PM 5/31/2015, you wrote:

  We tried to order late Friday afternoon and got the captia.  I’d be 
curious if anyone else has gotten a captia.
   
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliph
  Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:40 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic
   
  I just bought something on amazon today with the mac, and friday with 
windows.  Neither time was I asked to solve a catua 
  Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
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  And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
   
   
   

On May 28, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:


  
But that’s a pain if you use the site often. Many blind people use amazon 
because of the convenience and transportation issues. They should be made aware 
that this is a barrier. And TAPTAPSEE isn’t free.


  
Andy


  
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic

Hi Larry. I don't think that's outrageous. I think flooding them with 
complaints is completely unnecessary. If they did put captions in their sign 
in, get an app like a TapTapSee, save the image to the camera roll, and used to 
Pepsi or some other app like it to give you the caption. There's really no need 
to say we should flood them with complaints, especially since there seems to be 
accessible solutions.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

  Has anyone tried to order from Amazon lately.  It seems to us that they 
have initiated captias in their account sign in.  If this is so, this is 
outrageous and I think we should flood amazon with complaints.



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Re: Described Audio

[Brent Harding]

I think the described shows on ABC are mostly limited to Shark Tank, and the 
various commedies such as Fresh off The Boat, Blackish, Nashville, How to Get 
Away With Murder, among possible others I've missed. I don't think American 
Crime, Secrets and Lies, or Grays Anatomy aired described even on TV, but I 
know in the App that Grays doesn't have description because I checked it out 
after hearing about some of them working on the various lists.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Petraccaro 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Described Audio


  Does anyone know which ABC series are currently being described?
  Thanks.
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:45 AM
Subject: Described Audio


Hi All,

I know there are described audio TV episods and movies.  I’ve got Startrek 
seasons 1, 2, and 3.  I’ve found a few episodes of Star Trek the Next 
Generation but I have not found any Star Trek Voyager episodes.  Eoes any one 
know where I might get my hands on some Voyagers or Star Trek Next Generation 
MP3s?

Thanks!

Regards,
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Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Eileen]

Thanks Alex. I should have figured that out. I had deleted it because I had no 
real reason to use the native braille input. I'll have to give it another try 
sidce I'll be able to infut passwords. Thanks again for the explanation. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> BSI is braille screen input, the native braille keyboard available from 
> within iOS itself. You can enable it in your rotor and have it just a twist 
> away anytime you're typing or want to open an app from your Home Screen.
>> On May 31, 2015, at 10:41 PM, Eileen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I hope this isn't a silly question, but what are referring to as BSI? I 
>> assume the B is for "Blaille?" Thanks for the clarification.
>> 
>> Eileen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Indeed, MBraille (or Fleksy, or any other third-party keyboard) will 
>>> automatically vanish when you focus on an edit field. I imagine this is, as 
>>> Ilene suggested, a security measure. Braille screen input, though, will 
>>> work, and so long as you remember to switch to 6 dot mode, you can enter 
>>> passwords with no trouble. BSI is what I was using.
 On May 31, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Shaf  wrote:
 
 He never stated anywhere in his message that he was using MBraille. 
 "Braille Screen Input"
 
> On 5/31/2015 7:09 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> I’ll try composing my thoughts here from my Mac. Because MBraille is a 
> third party keyboard, I believe for security purposes Apple will not 
> allow 3rd party keyboards enter text into a password edit field. When one 
> adds a third party keyboard in settings under general and keyboards, it 
> asks one to give  keyboard access to your data. I don’t know about you, 
> but I don’t think I would want third party keyboards having access to my 
> passwords. With all kinds of hacking these days, I need to have some 
> control over my security. Others responding to this thread can correct me 
> if I am wrong. As a matter-of-fact, I did use MBraille when signing into 
> Paypal’s app with my user name, but when I jumped to the password edit 
> field, the English native keyboard was presented. On another note, there 
> are times when I am in an app’s edit field, and access MBraille as my 
> third party keyboard, the text brailed is not inputted  and it’s not a 
> password edit field. I have tried all different ways to input the text, 
> but the app itself must not support any third party keyboard input. HTH. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Eileen 
>> On May 31, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Shaf  wrote:
>> 
>> That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a 
>> 3rd-party keyboard)
>> 
>>> On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> Thanks for the help, everyone, I figured out the problem. I regularly 
>>> type my passwords using braille screen input, since it's way faster 
>>> with mixed case and numbers. It looks like the Paypal app won't un-dim 
>>> the Log In button until the actual, on-screen keyboard is used, instead 
>>> of when text is typed via any source. As soon as I entered my password 
>>> using the on-screen keyboard, everything worked as expected. Lesson 
>>> learned: BSI is great, but not every app fully supports it.
 On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Eileen  wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into the 
 app, but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the instructions 
 that Wren gave and had no problems signing in and activating my finger 
 touch ID. Do you think it's worth a try in deleting the app and 
 reinstalling it?. Just a thought. 
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Thing is, I see nothing on the screen except the dimmed login button, 
> the two text fields, a Help button, and a toggle to show or hide my 
> password. I expected there to be more to it, but that's all I can 
> find. Very odd. Sadly, too, my phone lacks TouchID.
>> On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Wren Langley 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if 
>> you press that you will be taken to the login. This is how it worked 
>> for me anyway. You can also set up PayPal to use touch ID to login. 
>> If you need more help please let me know and I will go in the app 
>> and figure it out again. God bless, Wren Langley PS I think that 
>> when you press this account button you will be given the options for 
>> setting up the touch ID.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone

repairing my Braillenote Apex with my 6+

[denise colley]

Somehow my BrailleNote Apex got unpaired from my iphone 6+, and I don

T seem to be able to find the pair button on the phone after I put in the
code.  I've looked everywhere on the screen.  Have there been changes with
the iphone 6 and 6+?

 

Denise

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Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Chris Smart]

it was in his message: BSI equals Braille screen input.
At 10:41 PM 5/31/2015, you wrote:
Hi,
I hope this isn't a silly question, but what are referring to as BSI? I
assume the B is for "Blaille?" Thanks for the
clarification.
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On May 31, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall

wrote:
Indeed, MBraille (or Fleksy, or
any other third-party keyboard) will automatically vanish when you focus
on an edit field. I imagine this is, as Ilene suggested, a security
measure. Braille screen input, though, will work, and so long as you
remember to switch to 6 dot mode, you can enter passwords with no
trouble. BSI is what I was using.
On May 31, 2015, at 2:23 PM,
Shaf 
wrote:
He never stated anywhere in his message that he was using MBraille.
"Braille Screen Input"
On 5/31/2015 7:09 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
Hello,  
I’ll try composing my thoughts here from my Mac. Because MBraille is a
third party keyboard, I believe for security purposes Apple will not
allow 3rd party keyboards enter text into a password edit field. When one
adds a third party keyboard in settings under general and keyboards, it
asks one to give  keyboard access to your data. I don’t know about
you, but I don’t think I would want third party keyboards having access
to my passwords. With all kinds of hacking these days, I need to have
some control over my security. Others responding to this thread can
correct me if I am wrong. As a matter-of-fact, I did use MBraille when
signing into Paypal’s app with my user name, but when I jumped to the
password edit field, the English native keyboard was presented. On
another note, there are times when I am in an app’s edit field, and
access MBraille as my third party keyboard, the text brailed is not
inputted  and it’s not a password edit field. I have tried all
different ways to input the text, but the app itself must not support any
third party keyboard input. HTH. 
Cheers, 
Eileen 
On May 31, 2015, at 6:36 AM,
Shaf 
wrote:
That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a
3rd-party keyboard)
On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Thanks for the help, everyone, I
figured out the problem. I regularly type my passwords using braille
screen input, since it's way faster with mixed case and numbers. It looks
like the Paypal app won't un-dim the Log In button until the actual,
on-screen keyboard is used, instead of when text is typed via any source.
As soon as I entered my password using the on-screen keyboard, everything
worked as expected. Lesson learned: BSI is great, but not every app fully
supports it.
On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM,
Eileen
 wrote:
Hi Alex,
Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into the
app, but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the instructions that
Wren gave and had no problems signing in and activating my finger touch
ID. Do you think it's worth a try in deleting the app and reinstalling
it?. Just a thought. 
Best,
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall

wrote:

Thing is, I see nothing on the
screen except the dimmed login button, the two text fields, a Help
button, and a toggle to show or hide my password. I expected there to be
more to it, but that's all I can find. Very odd. Sadly, too, my phone
lacks TouchID.
On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM,
Wren Langley
<
wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if you
press that you will be taken to the login. This is how it worked for me
anyway. You can also set up PayPal to use touch ID to login. If you need
more help please let me know and I will go in the app and figure it out
again. God bless, Wren Langley PS I think that when you press this
account button you will be given the options for setting up the touch
ID.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall

wrote:
Hello list, 
I'm trying to use the Paypal app for the first time in a long time. I see
my name and email address, and a field for a password. I type the
password--which I just updated, so I know it's right--and that's all I
can do. The enter key on the keyboard does nothing, and the Log In button
remains "dimmed", no matter what I do. I've tapped it anyway,
I've tried to scroll to see if an error message appeared somewhere
off-screen, I've tried the button with the keyboard visible *and* hidden…
I'm not sure whhat the problem could be. Does anyone have any ideas? Is
this a VoiceOver problem; that is, would a sighted person be able to hit
the button and log me in? Thanks for any help.
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RE: hope this isn't off topic

[Chris Smart]

It's C a p t c h a and stands for:
"Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and
Humans Apart"
I ordered two items yesterday and wasn't presented with a Captcha at all.
So, if most of us aren't being asked to solve a Captcha, and a few of us
are, what's the difference between our respective accounts I wonder? This
doesn't seem like a change on Amazon's part that affects
everyone.
Chris
At 07:34 PM 5/31/2015, you wrote:
We tried to order late Friday
afternoon and got the captia.  I’d be curious if anyone else has
gotten a captia.
 
 
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On May 28, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Andy Baracco

wrote:

 

But that’s a pain if you use the site often. Many blind people use
amazon because of the convenience and transportation issues. They should
be made aware that this is a barrier. And TAPTAPSEE isn’t free.

 

Andy

 

From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM

To:
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Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic

Hi Larry. I don't think that's outrageous. I think flooding them with
complaints is completely unnecessary. If they did put captions in their
sign in, get an app like a TapTapSee, save the image to the camera roll,
and used to Pepsi or some other app like it to give you the caption.
There's really no need to say we should flood them with complaints,
especially since there seems to be accessible solutions.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin
 wrote:


Has anyone tried to order from Amazon lately.  It seems to us
that they have initiated captias in their account sign in.  If this
is so, this is outrageous and I think we should flood amazon with
complaints.

 

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Does anyone know which ABC series are currently being described?
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Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Alex Hall]

BSI is braille screen input, the native braille keyboard available from within 
iOS itself. You can enable it in your rotor and have it just a twist away 
anytime you're typing or want to open an app from your Home Screen.
> On May 31, 2015, at 10:41 PM, Eileen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I hope this isn't a silly question, but what are referring to as BSI? I 
> assume the B is for "Blaille?" Thanks for the clarification.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 31, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> Indeed, MBraille (or Fleksy, or any other third-party keyboard) will 
>> automatically vanish when you focus on an edit field. I imagine this is, as 
>> Ilene suggested, a security measure. Braille screen input, though, will 
>> work, and so long as you remember to switch to 6 dot mode, you can enter 
>> passwords with no trouble. BSI is what I was using.
>>> On May 31, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Shaf >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> He never stated anywhere in his message that he was using MBraille. 
>>> "Braille Screen Input"
>>> 
>>> On 5/31/2015 7:09 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hello, 
 
 I’ll try composing my thoughts here from my Mac. Because MBraille is a 
 third party keyboard, I believe for security purposes Apple will not allow 
 3rd party keyboards enter text into a password edit field. When one adds a 
 third party keyboard in settings under general and keyboards, it asks one 
 to give  keyboard access to your data. I don’t know about you, but I don’t 
 think I would want third party keyboards having access to my passwords. 
 With all kinds of hacking these days, I need to have some control over my 
 security. Others responding to this thread can correct me if I am wrong. 
 As a matter-of-fact, I did use MBraille when signing into Paypal’s app 
 with my user name, but when I jumped to the password edit field, the 
 English native keyboard was presented. On another note, there are times 
 when I am in an app’s edit field, and access MBraille as my third party 
 keyboard, the text brailed is not inputted  and it’s not a password edit 
 field. I have tried all different ways to input the text, but the app 
 itself must not support any third party keyboard input. HTH. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Eileen 
> On May 31, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Shaf  > wrote:
> 
> That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a 
> 3rd-party keyboard)
> 
> On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Thanks for the help, everyone, I figured out the problem. I regularly 
>> type my passwords using braille screen input, since it's way faster with 
>> mixed case and numbers. It looks like the Paypal app won't un-dim the 
>> Log In button until the actual, on-screen keyboard is used, instead of 
>> when text is typed via any source. As soon as I entered my password 
>> using the on-screen keyboard, everything worked as expected. Lesson 
>> learned: BSI is great, but not every app fully supports it.
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Eileen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into the 
>>> app, but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the instructions 
>>> that Wren gave and had no problems signing in and activating my finger 
>>> touch ID. Do you think it's worth a try in deleting the app and 
>>> reinstalling it?. Just a thought. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Thing is, I see nothing on the screen except the dimmed login button, 
 the two text fields, a Help button, and a toggle to show or hide my 
 password. I expected there to be more to it, but that's all I can 
 find. Very odd. Sadly, too, my phone lacks TouchID.
> On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Wren Langley  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if you 
> press that you will be taken 
> to the login. This is how it worked for me anyway. You can also set 
> up PayPal to use touch ID to login. If you need more help please let 
> me know and I will go in the app and figure it out again. God bless, 
> Wren Langley PS I think that when you press this account button you 
> will be given the options for setting up the touch ID.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> I'm trying to use the Paypal app for the first time

Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Eileen]

Hi,

I hope this isn't a silly question, but what are referring to as BSI? I assume 
the B is for "Blaille?" Thanks for the clarification.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Indeed, MBraille (or Fleksy, or any other third-party keyboard) will 
> automatically vanish when you focus on an edit field. I imagine this is, as 
> Ilene suggested, a security measure. Braille screen input, though, will work, 
> and so long as you remember to switch to 6 dot mode, you can enter passwords 
> with no trouble. BSI is what I was using.
>> On May 31, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Shaf  wrote:
>> 
>> He never stated anywhere in his message that he was using MBraille. "Braille 
>> Screen Input"
>> 
>>> On 5/31/2015 7:09 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>>> Hello, 
>>> 
>>> I’ll try composing my thoughts here from my Mac. Because MBraille is a 
>>> third party keyboard, I believe for security purposes Apple will not allow 
>>> 3rd party keyboards enter text into a password edit field. When one adds a 
>>> third party keyboard in settings under general and keyboards, it asks one 
>>> to give  keyboard access to your data. I don’t know about you, but I don’t 
>>> think I would want third party keyboards having access to my passwords. 
>>> With all kinds of hacking these days, I need to have some control over my 
>>> security. Others responding to this thread can correct me if I am wrong. As 
>>> a matter-of-fact, I did use MBraille when signing into Paypal’s app with my 
>>> user name, but when I jumped to the password edit field, the English native 
>>> keyboard was presented. On another note, there are times when I am in an 
>>> app’s edit field, and access MBraille as my third party keyboard, the text 
>>> brailed is not inputted  and it’s not a password edit field. I have tried 
>>> all different ways to input the text, but the app itself must not support 
>>> any third party keyboard input. HTH. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, 
>>> Eileen 
 On May 31, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Shaf  wrote:
 
 That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a 
 3rd-party keyboard)
 
> On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Thanks for the help, everyone, I figured out the problem. I regularly 
> type my passwords using braille screen input, since it's way faster with 
> mixed case and numbers. It looks like the Paypal app won't un-dim the Log 
> In button until the actual, on-screen keyboard is used, instead of when 
> text is typed via any source. As soon as I entered my password using the 
> on-screen keyboard, everything worked as expected. Lesson learned: BSI is 
> great, but not every app fully supports it.
>> On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Eileen
>>   wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into the 
>> app, but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the instructions that 
>> Wren gave and had no problems signing in and activating my finger touch 
>> ID. Do you think it's worth a try in deleting the app and reinstalling 
>> it?. Just a thought. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thing is, I see nothing on the screen except the dimmed login button, 
>>> the two text fields, a Help button, and a toggle to show or hide my 
>>> password. I expected there to be more to it, but that's all I can find. 
>>> Very odd. Sadly, too, my phone lacks TouchID.
 On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Wren Langley  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if you 
 press that you will be taken to the login. This is how it worked for 
 me anyway. You can also set up PayPal to use touch ID to login. If you 
 need more help please let me know and I will go in the app and figure 
 it out again. God bless, Wren Langley PS I think that when you press 
 this account button you will be given the options for setting up the 
 touch ID.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Hello list,
> I'm trying to use the Paypal app for the first time in a long time. I 
> see my name and email 
> address, and a field for a password. I type the password--which I 
> just updated, so I know it's right--and that's all I can do. The 
> enter key on the keyboard does nothing, and the Log In button remains 
> "dimmed", no matter what I do. I've tapped it anyway, I've tried to 
> scroll to see if an error message appeared somewhere off-screen, I've 
> tried the button with the keyboard visible *and*  
>hidden… I'm not s

A Very Excellent Source for Free RingTones, Sounds, and Notifications

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Recently, I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S 6.  While it can never take the
place of my beloved iPhone 6 Plus, it is a very, very well-made and classy
device.  

One thing I absolutely adore about all of the Galaxy products, especially on
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The primary reason why these RingTones are made readily available is so that
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The following is text that I posted to an Android list containing the link
to the RingTones, sounds and notifications for the S 6 which, you may use on
your iOS device.

Mark

Download The Samsung Galaxy S 6 and 6 Edge Stock RingTones, Sounds, and
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For a while now I've been using a text message alert on my iPhone 6 Plus
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All they ask is that one gives them credit for the Zip file when sharing the
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So, for those of you who want to sprinkle a little Galaxy seasoning into
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1.
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[Richard Petty]

I would like to add contacts to appointments. When I attempt this, I am taken 
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cannot be selected. Does anyone know why this is the case and if there's a 
solution. Thanks.

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Re: Accessibility of Mint

[Tom Frank]

I use Mint almost daily and it works quite well with voice over. Obviously, the 
graphs won’t work but you can get a pretty good overview of your finances.

The alerts once saved me $1600 worth of airline tickets from Montreal to London 
on my credit card. Mint alerted me that I had spent over my normal monthly 
average on travel. I contacted the credit card company immediately and they 
removed the charges. Yes, I like Mint.
Tom Frank
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> I am working with someone who wants 6know if Mint is accessible with
> Voiceover. Has anyone used Mint? If so, I would appreciate your
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RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Richard,

 

I have the same problem with the 3 finger swipe left and have reported to the 
developer but no fix yet even if there has been an update since I reported it.  
I guess it might be in the next update.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

 

If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3.

If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at 
$29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both Dropbox 
and third party keyboard support.

It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have tried 
it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a three 
finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just dismiss the 
keyboard with the three finger swipe left.

Richard

 


On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge mailto:michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all, 
I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use mBraille 
as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an iPhone 6 and 
have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the app. 

I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I access 
functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in order to 
reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, basically 
nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. It 
clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what should be the dot 3 
and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only button I 
can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my primary keyboard. If I open 
mBraille and then select messages, though, then everything works as expected. 

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
going through mBraille itself first? 

If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wrong or to address 
the problem, I'd be really grateful. 

Thanks,
Michelle

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RE: hope this isn't off topic

[Donald Moore]

Never have.  No, I think once there was some issue with my account, but the 
most I’m asked for is my email address and password.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: hope this isn't off topic
 
We tried to order late Friday afternoon and got the captia.  I’d be curious if 
anyone else has gotten a captia.
 
 
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Kliph
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic
 
I just bought something on amazon today with the mac, and friday with windows.  
Neither time was I asked to solve a catua 
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On May 28, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
But that’s a pain if you use the site often. Many blind people use amazon 
because of the convenience and transportation issues. They should be made aware 
that this is a barrier. And TAPTAPSEE isn’t free.
 
Andy
 
From:   Daniel Miller
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To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic
Hi Larry. I don't think that's outrageous. I think flooding them with 
complaints is completely unnecessary. If they did put captions in their sign 
in, get an app like a TapTapSee, save the image to the camera roll, and used to 
Pepsi or some other app like it to give you the caption. There's really no need 
to say we should flood them with complaints, especially since there seems to be 
accessible solutions.

Sent from my iPhone

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initiated captias in their account sign in.  If this is so, this is outrageous 
and I think we should flood amazon with complaints.
 
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RE: hope this isn't off topic

[Larry Lumpkin]

We tried to order late Friday afternoon and got the captia.  I’d be curious if 
anyone else has gotten a captia.

 

 

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Kliph
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic

 

I just bought something on amazon today with the mac, and friday with windows.  
Neither time was I asked to solve a catua 

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And ask your question there.  All are welcome!

 

 

 

On May 28, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

 

But that’s a pain if you use the site often. Many blind people use amazon 
because of the convenience and transportation issues. They should be made aware 
that this is a barrier. And TAPTAPSEE isn’t free.

 

Andy

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic

Hi Larry. I don't think that's outrageous. I think flooding them with 
complaints is completely unnecessary. If they did put captions in their sign 
in, get an app like a TapTapSee, save the image to the camera roll, and used to 
Pepsi or some other app like it to give you the caption. There's really no need 
to say we should flood them with complaints, especially since there seems to be 
accessible solutions.

Sent from my iPhone


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Has anyone tried to order from Amazon lately.  It seems to us that they have 
initiated captias in their account sign in.  If this is so, this is outrageous 
and I think we should flood amazon with complaints.

 

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RE: How best to set up Amazon Echo

[Donald Moore]

>From what I read on another list, the app has some accessibility issues yet, 
>so I suspect it'll be easier by doing it online.  I requested my invitation 
>yesterday.



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Subject: How best to set up Amazon Echo

I just received our Amazon Echo today. For someone with no useable 
vision is it best to use the Amazon Echo app with VoiceOver or to use 
the Amazon Echo website. I'll appreciate all suggestions and experience.
Jeff

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How best to set up Amazon Echo

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I just received our Amazon Echo today. For someone with no useable 
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the Amazon Echo website. I'll appreciate all suggestions and experience.

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Re: hope this isn't off topic

[Kliph]

I just bought something on amazon today with the mac, and friday with windows.  
Neither time was I asked to solve a catua 
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> On May 28, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> But that’s a pain if you use the site often. Many blind people use amazon 
> because of the convenience and transportation issues. They should be made 
> aware that this is a barrier. And TAPTAPSEE isn’t free.
>  
> Andy
>  
> From: Daniel Miller 
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: hope this isn't off topic
> Hi Larry. I don't think that's outrageous. I think flooding them with 
> complaints is completely unnecessary. If they did put captions in their sign 
> in, get an app like a TapTapSee, save the image to the camera roll, and used 
> to Pepsi or some other app like it to give you the caption. There's really no 
> need to say we should flood them with complaints, especially since there 
> seems to be accessible solutions.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 28, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Larry Lumpkin  > wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone tried to order from Amazon lately.  It seems to us that they have 
>> initiated captias in their account sign in.  If this is so, this is 
>> outrageous and I think we should flood amazon with complaints.
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Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

[Richard Turner]

I thinkthere are two more things to try.
First, is the orientation locked? If not, try locking orientation.
The other thing is try going into Email and start a message, using mbraille as 
the third party keyboard, turn direct input off, then without doing anything 
else, hit your home button andmessages and either compose a new one or better, 
reply to one.
My guess is you will find that mBraille is the active keyboard and when you 
start writing you will hear what you type, depending on ymbraille speech 
settings anuway.
Direct input seems to behave differently in messages.
HTH,
Richard




> On May 31, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Michelle McQuigge  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Yes, I am using away mode, and indeed voiceover does say mBraille as soon as 
> I select the keyboard from within some other app. However when I go to type, 
> nothing happens. I hear clicks when I touch certain parts of the screen, but 
> when I try to enter braille characters, there’s no response from mBraille. In 
> fact on two occasions voiceover has interpreted my efforts to type as a 
> three-finger double tap and muted the speech. :p Doing a three-finger swipe 
> also doesn’t get me back to the keyboard. I can do that by holding the phone 
> back in portrait mode and flicking right once.
>  
> This, of course, is what happens when I try to use mBraille indirectly. If I 
> enter mBraille itself and then use it to launch something like messages and 
> mail, then third-party keyboarding works adequately. In those contexts, I’m 
> able to enable direct input without a problem.  
>  
> I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the program, not forgetting to 
> restore purchases and make sure full access was enabled. No dice.
>  
> As mentioned before, I’m using in iPhone 6 running ios8.3.
>  
> Thanks,
> Michelle
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard
>  
> Yes it is.
>  
> Are you using the Away mode layout?
>  
> When you select mBraille as the keyboard, you should hear mBraille spoken and 
> then be able to start writing.
>  
> Maybe you could say which device and what mode, etc.
> Do you have direct input on or off?
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin
> 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michelle McQuigge
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard
>  
> Richard,
>  
> I purchased what was advertised as the full mBraille program yesterday. It 
> cost about $45 Canadian and definitely includes dropbox support. At that 
> price, surely third-party keyboard permissions are included too?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard
>  
> If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3.
> If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at 
> $29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both 
> Dropbox and third party keyboard support.
> It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have 
> tried it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a 
> three finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just 
> dismiss the keyboard with the three finger swipe left.
> Richard
>  
> 
> On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use mBraille 
> as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an iPhone 6 and 
> have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the app. 
> 
> I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I access 
> functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in order to 
> reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, basically 
> nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. 
> It clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what should be the 
> dot 3 and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only 
> button I can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my primary keyboard. 
> If I open mBraille and then select messages, though, then everything works as 
> expected. 
> 
> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
> mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
> going through mBraille itself first? 
> 
> If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wron

RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

[Michelle McQuigge]

Hi Richard, 

 

Yes, I am using away mode, and indeed voiceover does say mBraille as soon as I 
select the keyboard from within some other app. However when I go to type, 
nothing happens. I hear clicks when I touch certain parts of the screen, but 
when I try to enter braille characters, there’s no response from mBraille. In 
fact on two occasions voiceover has interpreted my efforts to type as a 
three-finger double tap and muted the speech. :p Doing a three-finger swipe 
also doesn’t get me back to the keyboard. I can do that by holding the phone 
back in portrait mode and flicking right once. 

 

This, of course, is what happens when I try to use mBraille indirectly. If I 
enter mBraille itself and then use it to launch something like messages and 
mail, then third-party keyboarding works adequately. In those contexts, I’m 
able to enable direct input without a problem.  

 

I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the program, not forgetting to 
restore purchases and make sure full access was enabled. No dice. 

 

As mentioned before, I’m using in iPhone 6 running ios8.3.

 

Thanks,

Michelle

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

 

Yes it is.

 

Are you using the Away mode layout?

 

When you select mBraille as the keyboard, you should hear mBraille spoken and 
then be able to start writing.

 

Maybe you could say which device and what mode, etc.

Do you have direct input on or off?

 

Richard

 

 

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle McQuigge
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

 

Richard, 

 

I purchased what was advertised as the full mBraille program yesterday. It cost 
about $45 Canadian and definitely includes dropbox support. At that price, 
surely third-party keyboard permissions are included too? 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

 

If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3.

If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at 
$29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both Dropbox 
and third party keyboard support.

It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have tried 
it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a three 
finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just dismiss the 
keyboard with the three finger swipe left.

Richard

 


On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge mailto:michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all, 
I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use mBraille 
as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an iPhone 6 and 
have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the app. 

I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I access 
functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in order to 
reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, basically 
nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. It 
clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what should be the dot 3 
and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only button I 
can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my primary keyboard. If I open 
mBraille and then select messages, though, then everything works as expected. 

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
going through mBraille itself first? 

If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wrong or to address 
the problem, I'd be really grateful. 

Thanks,
Michelle

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Re: Using iTunes for Windows to Sync an App to iPhone 5

[Craig Werner]

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, especially to
Richard Turner and Alan Lemley who provided helpful information in
solving my problem.  If you want to copy an app from your iTunes for
Windows computer to your iPhone, and you wish to remain in close touch
with the iTunes interface, do remember to be patient while the
treeview containing your apps loads.  To find this treeview, tab to
the button indicating your iDevice name (such as "iPhone"), and
activate it.  Then, tab until you hear your screen reader say
"Treeview."  Wait a generous number of seconds before trying to
navigate this view.  You will want to press "down arrow" until you
hear "Apps."  Then, press the "tab" key until you come to the list of
apps.  Arrow down until you hear the app you want copied, and make
sure its checkbox is checked before tabbing to the "Apply" button to
start the sync.
.
On 5/30/15, Craig Werner  wrote:
> Hello, everyone.
>
> I am trying to use iTunes 12.1x for Windows with Window-Eyes 9.1 to
> sync an old version of an app to my iPhone 5.  I used to be able to do
> this, but with the current software versions, I can't figure out how
> to navigate to the app list and get the "remove" and "install" buttons
> to work so that the app will install to the iPhone.  Is this operation
> possible with the latest Window-Eyes and iTunes versions?
>
> Thank you for all help.
>
> Craig
>

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Re: Exploring US States

[David Justice]

According to the App Store, it is only available for the iPad. 


  David Justice :) 


> On May 30, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> How do you get this app? I can't find it by typing in talking atlas 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, what I do…
>> 
>> With the 2 finger swipe up or down, I go to index, 1-finger double tap to 
>> select.  The 2 finger swipe left or right, I go to countries, 1-finger 
>> double tap to select.  Again, 2 finger swipe left or right I choose United 
>> States, 1-finger double tap select.  When you 2 finger swipe left or right 
>> this time, you will want political, 1-finger double tap select.  I’m able to 
>> move my finger around the US now.  The 2 finger swipe up or down will give 
>> you several other options.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Traci
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Traci,
>>> 
>>> While I do not have a good answer to your question, I have a related 
>>> question which I believe you may be able to help me with.
>>> 
>>> I also have Talking Atlas and I can only get it to show me countries and 
>>> not states or provinces. etc.
>>> 
>>> From your question, it seems as if you are able to see US states, for 
>>> example, whereas I am not.
>>> 
>>> Am I understanding you correctly? I.E. Can you see each individual state in 
>>> the USA and their spacial relationship to each other?
>>> 
>>> If so, can I ask how you are doing this?
>>> 
>>> As I’ve said above, I am only able to see countries on the map but nothing 
>>> more detailed than that. I.E. I can see the USA but no states within it. It 
>>> is fairly frustrating. :)
>>> 
>>> As for your own question, I suspect the creators of the app probably do not 
>>> have the level of fine-grained detail you are after just yet.
>>> 
>>> Have you contacted them to express your concerns?
>>> 
>>> I would also be happy to contact them along with you as well, as I really 
>>> feel that a useful and detailed map application is something which is very 
>>> important for us as visually impaired people.
>>> 
>>> All the best!
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> Cara
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>>> Follow me on Twitter!
>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>>> 
>>> On May 28, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I do, own the app Talking Atlas but it doesn’t go into details for 
>>> individual states.  Has anyone found a good way either via an app or 
>>> webpage, where I can pick a State & explore it further?  I’m looking for a 
>>> way to get a better idea of layout of cities/towns, there distance between 
>>> each other, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
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RE: Email lists from A to Z Contacts

[Richard Turner]

Hi Paul,

The developer also said he is going to make the Email list creation even easier 
in an update.

The app is perfectly usable as a free app with the ads, but I personally think 
it is worth supporting the developer for the $1.99 to remove ads.
Plus, I think there is a little more screen made available to the app that way.

Enjoy,
Richard

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Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Email lists from A to Z Contacts

Hello everybody. As I stated earlier, I choose to use native apps whenever 
possible. In this case, however, there is no way to create email lists from 
contact groups with the native contacts app. You can create groups from OSX or 
via Microsoft Outlook and synchronization with iTunes. However, you can't 
create email lists with your groups. This app is promising when I upgrade to an 
iPhone 6. I'll be able to do that in October.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Paul


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Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Email lists from A to Z Contacts

I just learned something else about A to Z Contacts.
After you have created your group, if you go beyond the spot where you would 
send a group text or group email, there is an item called Email Lists.
If you double tap that you can have A to Z contacts create an Email list inside 
your regular contacts so that you can now send Emails to that group from within 
the native Email App.
That feature alone has me going to go and pay to remove ads plus a little more.
This is great!
Richard



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RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Yes it is.

 

Are you using the Away mode layout?

 

When you select mBraille as the keyboard, you should hear mBraille spoken and 
then be able to start writing.

 

Maybe you could say which device and what mode, etc.

Do you have direct input on or off?

 

Richard

 

 

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they become by it."

- John Ruskin

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michelle McQuigge
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

 

Richard, 

 

I purchased what was advertised as the full mBraille program yesterday. It cost 
about $45 Canadian and definitely includes dropbox support. At that price, 
surely third-party keyboard permissions are included too? 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

 

If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3.

If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at 
$29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both Dropbox 
and third party keyboard support.

It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have tried 
it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a three 
finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just dismiss the 
keyboard with the three finger swipe left.

Richard

 


On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge mailto:michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all, 
I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use mBraille 
as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an iPhone 6 and 
have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the app. 

I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I access 
functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in order to 
reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, basically 
nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. It 
clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what should be the dot 3 
and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only button I 
can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my primary keyboard. If I open 
mBraille and then select messages, though, then everything works as expected. 

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
going through mBraille itself first? 

If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wrong or to address 
the problem, I'd be really grateful. 

Thanks,
Michelle

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RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

[Michelle McQuigge]

Richard, 

 

I purchased what was advertised as the full mBraille program yesterday. It cost 
about $45 Canadian and definitely includes dropbox support. At that price, 
surely third-party keyboard permissions are included too? 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

 

If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3.

If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at 
$29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both Dropbox 
and third party keyboard support.

It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have tried 
it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a three 
finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just dismiss the 
keyboard with the three finger swipe left.

Richard

 


On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge mailto:michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all, 
I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use mBraille 
as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an iPhone 6 and 
have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the app. 

I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I access 
functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in order to 
reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, basically 
nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. It 
clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what should be the dot 3 
and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only button I 
can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my primary keyboard. If I open 
mBraille and then select messages, though, then everything works as expected. 

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
going through mBraille itself first? 

If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wrong or to address 
the problem, I'd be really grateful. 

Thanks,
Michelle

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RE: Email lists from A to Z Contacts

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. As I stated earlier, I choose to use native apps whenever 
possible. In this case, however, there is no way to create email lists from 
contact groups with the native contacts app. You can create groups from OSX or 
via Microsoft Outlook and synchronization with iTunes. However, you can't 
create email lists with your groups. This app is promising when I upgrade to an 
iPhone 6. I'll be able to do that in October.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Paul


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Email lists from A to Z Contacts

I just learned something else about A to Z Contacts.
After you have created your group, if you go beyond the spot where you would 
send a group text or group email, there is an item called Email Lists.
If you double tap that you can have A to Z contacts create an Email list inside 
your regular contacts so that you can now send Emails to that group from within 
the native Email App.
That feature alone has me going to go and pay to remove ads plus a little more.
This is great!
Richard



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Re: Exploring US States

[Traci Duncan]

Here ya go.

Talking Atlas by Teeshee Holdings Pvt. Ltd
https://appsto.re/us/KhcA3.i
On May 30, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:

> How do you get this app? I can't find it by typing in talking atlas 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 30, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, what I do…
>> 
>> With the 2 finger swipe up or down, I go to index, 1-finger double tap to 
>> select.  The 2 finger swipe left or right, I go to countries, 1-finger 
>> double tap to select.  Again, 2 finger swipe left or right I choose United 
>> States, 1-finger double tap select.  When you 2 finger swipe left or right 
>> this time, you will want political, 1-finger double tap select.  I’m able to 
>> move my finger around the US now.  The 2 finger swipe up or down will give 
>> you several other options.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Traci
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Traci,
>>> 
>>> While I do not have a good answer to your question, I have a related 
>>> question which I believe you may be able to help me with.
>>> 
>>> I also have Talking Atlas and I can only get it to show me countries and 
>>> not states or provinces. etc.
>>> 
>>> From your question, it seems as if you are able to see US states, for 
>>> example, whereas I am not.
>>> 
>>> Am I understanding you correctly? I.E. Can you see each individual state in 
>>> the USA and their spacial relationship to each other?
>>> 
>>> If so, can I ask how you are doing this?
>>> 
>>> As I’ve said above, I am only able to see countries on the map but nothing 
>>> more detailed than that. I.E. I can see the USA but no states within it. It 
>>> is fairly frustrating. :)
>>> 
>>> As for your own question, I suspect the creators of the app probably do not 
>>> have the level of fine-grained detail you are after just yet.
>>> 
>>> Have you contacted them to express your concerns?
>>> 
>>> I would also be happy to contact them along with you as well, as I really 
>>> feel that a useful and detailed map application is something which is very 
>>> important for us as visually impaired people.
>>> 
>>> All the best!
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> Cara
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>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>>> 
>>> On May 28, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I do, own the app Talking Atlas but it doesn’t go into details for 
>>> individual states.  Has anyone found a good way either via an app or 
>>> webpage, where I can pick a State & explore it further?  I’m looking for a 
>>> way to get a better idea of layout of cities/towns, there distance between 
>>> each other, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
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Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Alex Hall]

Indeed, MBraille (or Fleksy, or any other third-party keyboard) will 
automatically vanish when you focus on an edit field. I imagine this is, as 
Ilene suggested, a security measure. Braille screen input, though, will work, 
and so long as you remember to switch to 6 dot mode, you can enter passwords 
with no trouble. BSI is what I was using.
> On May 31, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> He never stated anywhere in his message that he was using MBraille. "Braille 
> Screen Input"
> 
> On 5/31/2015 7:09 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I’ll try composing my thoughts here from my Mac. Because MBraille is a third 
>> party keyboard, I believe for security purposes Apple will not allow 3rd 
>> party keyboards enter text into a password edit field. When one adds a third 
>> party keyboard in settings under general and keyboards, it asks one to give  
>> keyboard access to your data. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think I 
>> would want third party keyboards having access to my passwords. With all 
>> kinds of hacking these days, I need to have some control over my security. 
>> Others responding to this thread can correct me if I am wrong. As a 
>> matter-of-fact, I did use MBraille when signing into Paypal’s app with my 
>> user name, but when I jumped to the password edit field, the English native 
>> keyboard was presented. On another note, there are times when I am in an 
>> app’s edit field, and access MBraille as my third party keyboard, the text 
>> brailed is not inputted  and it’s not a password edit field. I have tried 
>> all different ways to input the text, but the app itself must not support 
>> any third party keyboard input. HTH. 
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> Eileen 
>>> On May 31, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Shaf >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a 
>>> 3rd-party keyboard)
>>> 
>>> On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 Thanks for the help, everyone, I figured out the problem. I regularly type 
 my passwords using braille screen input, since it's way faster with mixed 
 case and numbers. It looks like the Paypal app won't un-dim the Log In 
 button until the actual,   on-screen keyboard is used, 
 instead of when text is typed via any source. As soon as I entered my 
 password using the on-screen keyboard, everything worked as expected. 
 Lesson learned: BSI is great, but not every app fully supports it.
> On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Eileen  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into the 
> app, but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the instructions that 
> Wren gave and had no problems signing in and activating my finger touch 
> ID. Do you think it's worth a try in deleting the app and reinstalling 
> it?. Just a thought. 
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> Thing is, I see nothing on the screen except the dimmed login button, 
>> the two text fields, a Help button, and a toggle to show or hide my 
>> password. I expected there to be more to it, but that's all I can find. 
>> Very odd. Sadly, too, my phone lacks TouchID.
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Wren Langley >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if you 
>>> press that you will be taken to the login. This is how it worked for me 
>>> anyway. You can also set up PayPal to use touch ID to login. If you 
>>> need more help please let me know and I will go in the app and figure 
>>> it out again. God bless, Wren Langley PS I think that when you press 
>>> this account button you will be given the options for setting up the 
>>> touch ID.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello list,
 I'm trying to use the Paypal app for the first time in a long time. I 
 see my name and email address, and a field for a password. I type the 
 password--which I just updated, so I know it's right--and that's all I 
 can do. The enter key on the keyboard does nothing, and the Log In 
 button remains "dimmed", no matter what I do. I've tapped it anyway, 
 I've tried to scroll to see if an error message appeared somewhere 
 off-screen, I've tried the button with the 
 keyboard visible *and* hidden… I'm not sure what the 
 problem could be. Does anyone have any ideas? Is this a VoiceOver 
 problem; that is, would a sighted person be able to hit the button and 
 log me in? Thanks for any help.

Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Shaf]

He never stated anywhere in his message that he was using MBraille. 
"Braille Screen Input"


On 5/31/2015 7:09 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hello,

I’ll try composing my thoughts here from my Mac. Because MBraille is a 
third party keyboard, I believe for security purposes Apple will not 
allow 3rd party keyboards enter text into a password edit field. When 
one adds a third party keyboard in settings under general and 
keyboards, it asks one to give  keyboard access to your data. I don’t 
know about you, but I don’t think I would want third party keyboards 
having access to my passwords. With all kinds of hacking these days, I 
need to have some control over my security. Others responding to this 
thread can correct me if I am wrong. As a matter-of-fact, I did use 
MBraille when signing into Paypal’s app with my user name, but when I 
jumped to the password edit field, the English native keyboard was 
presented. On another note, there are times when I am in an app’s edit 
field, and access MBraille as my third party keyboard, the text 
brailed is not inputted  and it’s not a password edit field. I have 
tried all different ways to input the text, but the app itself must 
not support any third party keyboard input. HTH.


Cheers,
Eileen
On May 31, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Shaf > wrote:


That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a 
3rd-party keyboard)


On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Thanks for the help, everyone, I figured out the problem. I 
regularly type my passwords using braille screen input, since it's 
way faster with mixed case and numbers. It looks like the Paypal app 
won't un-dim the Log In button until the actual, on-screen keyboard 
is used, instead of when text is typed via any source. As soon as I 
entered my password using the on-screen keyboard, everything worked 
as expected. Lesson learned: BSI is great, but not every app fully 
supports it.
On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Eileen > wrote:


Hi Alex,

Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into 
the app, but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the 
instructions that Wren gave and had no problems signing in and 
activating my finger touch ID. Do you think it's worth a try in 
deleting the app and reinstalling it?. Just a thought.


Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall > wrote:


Thing is, I see nothing on the screen except the dimmed login 
button, the two text fields, a Help button, and a toggle to show 
or hide my password. I expected there to be more to it, but that's 
all I can find. Very odd. Sadly, too, my phone lacks TouchID.
On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Wren Langley 
mailto:wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:


Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if 
you press that you will be taken to the login. This is how it 
worked for me anyway. You can also set up PayPal to use touch ID 
to login. If you need more help please let me know and I will go 
in the app and figure it out again. God bless, Wren Langley PS I 
think that when you press this account button you will be given 
the options for setting up the touch ID.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:



Hello list,
I'm trying to use the Paypal app for the first time in a long 
time. I see my name and email address, and a field for a 
password. I type the password--which I just updated, so I know 
it's right--and that's all I can do. The enter key on the 
keyboard does nothing, and the Log In button remains "dimmed", 
no matter what I do. I've tapped it anyway, I've tried to scroll 
to see if an error message appeared somewhere off-screen, I've 
tried the button with the keyboard visible *and* hidden… I'm not 
sure what the problem could be. Does anyone have any ideas? Is 
this a VoiceOver problem; that is, would a sighted person be 
able to hit the button and log me in? Thanks for any help.


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Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I’ll try composing my thoughts here from my Mac. Because MBraille is a third 
party keyboard, I believe for security purposes Apple will not allow 3rd party 
keyboards enter text into a password edit field. When one adds a third party 
keyboard in settings under general and keyboards, it asks one to give  keyboard 
access to your data. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think I would want 
third party keyboards having access to my passwords. With all kinds of hacking 
these days, I need to have some control over my security. Others responding to 
this thread can correct me if I am wrong. As a matter-of-fact, I did use 
MBraille when signing into Paypal’s app with my user name, but when I jumped to 
the password edit field, the English native keyboard was presented. On another 
note, there are times when I am in an app’s edit field, and access MBraille as 
my third party keyboard, the text brailed is not inputted  and it’s not a 
password edit field. I have tried all different ways to input the text, but the 
app itself must not support any third party keyboard input. HTH. 

Cheers, 
Eileen 
> On May 31, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a 3rd-party 
> keyboard)
> 
> On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Thanks for the help, everyone, I figured out the problem. I regularly type 
>> my passwords using braille screen input, since it's way faster with mixed 
>> case and numbers. It looks like the Paypal app won't un-dim the Log In 
>> button until the actual, on-screen keyboard is used, instead of when text is 
>> typed via any source. As soon as I entered my password using the on-screen 
>> keyboard, everything worked as expected. Lesson learned: BSI is great, but 
>> not every app fully supports it.
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Eileen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into the app, 
>>> but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the instructions that Wren 
>>> gave and had no problems signing in and activating my finger touch ID. Do 
>>> you think it's worth a try in deleting the app and reinstalling it?. Just a 
>>> thought. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Thing is, I see nothing on the screen except the dimmed login button, the 
 two text fields, a Help button, and a toggle to show or hide my password. 
 I expected there to be more to it, but that's all I can find. Very odd. 
 Sadly, too, my phone lacks TouchID.
> On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Wren Langley  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if you 
> press that you will be taken to the login. This is how it worked for me 
> anyway. You can also set up PayPal to use touch ID to login. If you need 
> more help please let me know and I will go in the app and figure it out 
> again. God bless, Wren Langley PS I think that when you press this 
> account button you will be given the options for setting up the touch ID.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> I'm trying to use the Paypal app for the first time in a long time. I 
>> see my name and email address, and a field for a password. I type the 
>> password--which I just updated, so I know it's right--and that's all I 
>> can do. The enter key on the keyboard does nothing, and the Log In 
>> button remains "dimmed", no matter what I do. I've tapped it anyway, 
>> I've tried to scroll to see if an error message appeared somewhere 
>> off-screen, I've tried the button with the keyboard visible *and* 
>> hidden… I'm not sure what the problem could be. Does anyone have any 
>> ideas? Is this a VoiceOver problem; that is, would a sighted person be 
>> able to hit the button and log me in? Thanks for any help.
>> 
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>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com 
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amazon's help number

[Larry Lumpkin]

Amazon's password assistance number is

 

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Re: FYI: iPod Touch 5 price drop

[Alex Hall]

Sorry guys, I think I messed up. I didn't check the link ahead of time; as it 
turns out, that is for a refurb of the iPod Touch 5, not a price drop for a 
*new* one. There's nothing wrong with refurbished units, of course, but this 
isn't a true price drop, or an indication of any new products to come. Sorry 
for not checking first.
> On May 31, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I just saw this tweet and thought someone might be interested. Remember that 
> this price cut may well signify a hardware update, so if you can, you should 
> probably wait until after WWDC to see what happens. Still, if you've been 
> wanting an iPod Touch and don't care that yours will be a model from a few 
> years ago, this is your chance. Prices now start at $149.
> Apple Online store offering 5th gen iPod Touch with 16 GB for $149, 32 GB for 
> $199.  http://t.co/xGNJdblvHB
> http://t.co/xGNJdblvHB
> 
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Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

[Richard Turner]

If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3.
If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at 
$29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both Dropbox 
and third party keyboard support.
It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have tried 
it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a three 
finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just dismiss the 
keyboard with the three finger swipe left.
Richard


> On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use mBraille 
> as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an iPhone 6 and 
> have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the app. 
> 
> I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I access 
> functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in order to 
> reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, basically 
> nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. 
> It clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what should be the 
> dot 3 and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only 
> button I can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my primary keyboard. 
> If I open mBraille and then select messages, though, then everything works as 
> expected. 
> 
> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
> mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
> going through mBraille itself first? 
> 
> If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wrong or to 
> address the problem, I'd be really grateful. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Michelle
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Re: A simpler answer. Re: Help! A2Z contacts has eaten all my contacts!

[Richard Turner]

I'm glad that was it. I know how scary that is when you think you've lost a 
bunch of data.
Enjoy,
Richard




> On May 31, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Kimber Gardner  
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> Thank you Richard. That is just what I did and now my contacts are showing up.
> 
> Kim
> 
>> On 5/30/15, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Actually Kimberly, what you did was change focus from all contacts to just
>> that two person group in your native contacts app.
>> I just duplicated what you did.
>> If only the people in a group is showing up, flick left from the first
>> person until you get to the group button.
>> Then flick to where it says all contacts and double tap.
>> HTH,
>> RICHARD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope somebody can help me because if not I am totally up the creek.
>>> 
>>> I installed a2z contacts app and created a group. I added two contacts
>>> to the group. Now when I open my contacts those two people are the
>>> only contacts I can see. There's a button at the upper left that says
>>> groups but nothing to get me back to my list of other contacts.
>>> 
>>> This is not good. I uninstalled a2z contacts, but my contacts are
>>> still missing. Can somebody please help?
>>> 
>>> Kimber
>>> 
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Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way when the event is several months in the future?

[Chris Smart]

It's Siri, S i r i.
At 02:10 AM 5/31/2015, you wrote:
Perhaps this has already been
suggested, but I schedule and search all my calendar events by using
Seri.
It is the one area where Seri really works well.
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Any Recommendation For A Non-folding Bluetooth For IPhone 6 Plus And Android?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

Any recommendation for a non-folding, sans keypad, plus lock-switch
Bluetooth keyboard for IPhone 6 Plus and Android phone, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Unable to rename a folder on the iPhone

[Gadget Girl]

Hi Kimber.

I place and hold my finger on the folder I want to rename.  VoiceOver will say, 
"moving (name of folder)".  I then do a single double-tap on the folder to open 
it.  The folder opens and VoiceOver says, "(name of folder) is editing.  
Double-tap to edit".  I then do a single finger double-tap to open the text box 
and rename my folder.  Hope this helps.

Regards, 
Gadget Girl
Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.

> On May 31, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Kimber Gardner  
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> Hi All,
> 
> I know I've successfully renamed folders in the past, but never under
> iOS8. Now when I attempt to edit the text field where the folder name
> is located, the only thing that happens is the folder closes and I am
> returned to the home screen where the folder resides.
> 
> Am I missing a step, or is this a bug?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kimber
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Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard

[Michelle McQuigge]

Hi all, 
I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when trying to use 
mBraille as a third-party keyboard. As a caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an 
iPhone 6 and have enabled full access using the full, paid version of the 
app. 

I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard if I 
access functions through the app first. For instance, if I open messages in 
order to reply to someone and select mBraille as the keyboard of choice, 
basically nothing happens. I can't activate the braille keyboard no matter 
what I do. It clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down what 
should be the dot 3 and swiping right, but it doesn't seem to recognize the 
dots. The only button I can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my 
primary keyboard. If I open mBraille and then select messages, though, then 
everything works as expected. 

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed to be able to summon 
mBraille functionality from within whatever app we choose now as opposed to 
going through mBraille itself first? 

If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm doing wrong or to 
address the problem, I'd be really grateful. 

Thanks,
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Re: A simpler answer. Re: Help! A2Z contacts has eaten all my contacts!

[Kimber Gardner]

Thank you Richard. That is just what I did and now my contacts are showing up.

Kim

On 5/30/15, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Actually Kimberly, what you did was change focus from all contacts to just
> that two person group in your native contacts app.
> I just duplicated what you did.
> If only the people in a group is showing up, flick left from the first
> person until you get to the group button.
> Then flick to where it says all contacts and double tap.
> HTH,
> RICHARD
>
>
>
>
>> On May 30, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I hope somebody can help me because if not I am totally up the creek.
>>
>> I installed a2z contacts app and created a group. I added two contacts
>> to the group. Now when I open my contacts those two people are the
>> only contacts I can see. There's a button at the upper left that says
>> groups but nothing to get me back to my list of other contacts.
>>
>> This is not good. I uninstalled a2z contacts, but my contacts are
>> still missing. Can somebody please help?
>>
>> Kimber
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Re: Paypal app not letting me log in?

[Shaf]

That's a very interesting discovery. And I wonder why? (it's not a 
3rd-party keyboard)


On 5/30/2015 10:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Thanks for the help, everyone, I figured out the problem. I regularly 
type my passwords using braille screen input, since it's way faster 
with mixed case and numbers. It looks like the Paypal app won't un-dim 
the Log In button until the actual, on-screen keyboard is used, 
instead of when text is typed via any source. As soon as I entered my 
password using the on-screen keyboard, everything worked as expected. 
Lesson learned: BSI is great, but not every app fully supports it.
On May 30, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Eileen > wrote:


Hi Alex,

Sorry you're having so much trouble signing in. I just signed into 
the app, but I am using an iPhone 6 on 8.3. I followed the 
instructions that Wren gave and had no problems signing in and 
activating my finger touch ID. Do you think it's worth a try in 
deleting the app and reinstalling it?. Just a thought.


Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On May 30, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Alex Hall > wrote:


Thing is, I see nothing on the screen except the dimmed login 
button, the two text fields, a Help button, and a toggle to show or 
hide my password. I expected there to be more to it, but that's all 
I can find. Very odd. Sadly, too, my phone lacks TouchID.
On May 30, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Wren Langley 
mailto:wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:


Hi Alex and all, there should be an account button on your app if 
you press that you will be taken to the login. This is how it 
worked for me anyway. You can also set up PayPal to use touch ID to 
login. If you need more help please let me know and I will go in 
the app and figure it out again. God bless, Wren Langley PS I think 
that when you press this account button you will be given the 
options for setting up the touch ID.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:



Hello list,
I'm trying to use the Paypal app for the first time in a long 
time. I see my name and email address, and a field for a password. 
I type the password--which I just updated, so I know it's 
right--and that's all I can do. The enter key on the keyboard does 
nothing, and the Log In button remains "dimmed", no matter what I 
do. I've tapped it anyway, I've tried to scroll to see if an error 
message appeared somewhere off-screen, I've tried the button with 
the keyboard visible *and* hidden… I'm not sure what the problem 
could be. Does anyone have any ideas? Is this a VoiceOver problem; 
that is, would a sighted person be able to hit the button and log 
me in? Thanks for any help.


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Unable to rename a folder on the iPhone

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi All,

I know I've successfully renamed folders in the past, but never under
iOS8. Now when I attempt to edit the text field where the folder name
is located, the only thing that happens is the folder closes and I am
returned to the home screen where the folder resides.

Am I missing a step, or is this a bug?

Thanks,
Kimber

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FYI: iPod Touch 5 price drop

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I just saw this tweet and thought someone might be interested. Remember that 
this price cut may well signify a hardware update, so if you can, you should 
probably wait until after WWDC to see what happens. Still, if you've been 
wanting an iPod Touch and don't care that yours will be a model from a few 
years ago, this is your chance. Prices now start at $149.
Apple Online store offering 5th gen iPod Touch with 16 GB for $149, 32 GB for 
$199.  http://t.co/xGNJdblvHB
http://t.co/xGNJdblvHB

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Re: Using iTunes for Windows to Sync an App to iPhone 5

[Robert Doc wright]

I need to know what steps are you currantly taking so I know what to fill 
in.
- Original Message - 
From: "Craig Werner" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:32 PM
Subject: Using iTunes for Windows to Sync an App to iPhone 5


Hello, everyone.

I am trying to use iTunes 12.1x for Windows with Window-Eyes 9.1 to
sync an old version of an app to my iPhone 5.  I used to be able to do
this, but with the current software versions, I can't figure out how
to navigate to the app list and get the "remove" and "install" buttons
to work so that the app will install to the iPhone.  Is this operation
possible with the latest Window-Eyes and iTunes versions?

Thank you for all help.

Craig

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Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way when the event is several months in the future?

[carol.pearso...@googlemail.com]

Richard,

Again, star!

Thanks so much!  I've got it working well now.  I think the confusion came when 
I was writing in braille and wanted to edit what I'd written, not realising 
quite what was happening in the calendar's smart work.  Now I have it!  

Anyone not knowing yet which calendar to go for, I'd give this a go!  If I 
eventually succeed, I reckon you will, easily!  

Carol P

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  Subject: Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
when the event is several months in the future?




  I have that same version, Version 2.2.7 (416).
  If you write the sentence with the subject as the first word, like "dentist 
on november 20, 2015 at 6 Am," it should work.
  HTH,
  Richard





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 wrote:


Hi Richard,

Thanks for your good suggestion.  I see it's Version 2.2.7.

I was alerted to the fact that I may not have the Version 2 because Alex 
wrote, earlier in this thread:
"Some people also like the Fantastical app for this purpose, since you can 
type something like "appointment on November 4 ant 6" and it will figure out 
when the event is automatically."

I tried that but just ccouldn't get it to work, hence my thinking that I 
may not have Fantastical 2.  Also, nowhere (apart from the HELP, do I hear the 
2 spoken, so not when I am on the app or anywhere else in it.

Anyway, if you or Alex, or anyone else, are able to give me any feedback, 
that will be good;  otherwise I'll do as you suggest and write the author.

Thanks and hope this isn't too difficult to understand.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best 
way when the event is several months in the future?




  Fantastical 2 is the updated version from a couple years ago at least.
  I don't remember if I had to buy the new version.
  First, why don't you go into Fantastical and double tap on settings and 
scroll to the last item which says About Fantastical and double check which 
version you have.
  Then you could write the developer if it isn't Fantastical 2 to ask your 
questions since I can't remember what changed.
  The address is:
  h...@flexibits.com
  HTH,
  Richard





  On May 30, 2015, at 4:49 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:


I got Fantastical some while back.  Is Fantastical2 another app, which 
I'd now have to buy separately from Fantastical?  What are the differences in 
the two versions?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:12 PM
  Subject: Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the 
best way when the event is several months in the future?




  I have not used the native calendar app for a long time.
  I opened it and it proved to me why Fantastical 2 is a superior 
calendar.
  Try this with the native app:
  1. Get to your desired month.
  2.
  Make sure where it says "list button" it is not selected. If it says 
selected, double tap and it will not say selected.
  3. Find your day and double tap.
  4. Turn the rotor to events and flick up or down.
  If that doesn't help, buy Fantastical 2 which will access all your 
events from the native calendar, etc.
  That is my very biased and jaded opinion.
  Feel free to ignore me.
  I'm spending too much time fighting with other technology today, so 
probably have a more negative reaction to the Calendar than it deserves.
  Later,
  Richard





  On May 29, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 wrote:


Hi,  Richard.


Tried it again. No luck.


Yes, I’m in the month view.


I go to July and make sure VO speaks Selected List button.


I go to July 13, and VO speaks 2 Events.


I double tap.


I go to the area you suggested. VO speaks No Events. I flick back 
once, and get the last day of July, July 31.


Still stumped.


Keith


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the 
best way when the event is several months in the future?


Keith,

Are you in the month view when you double tap on the date with the 
events?

If you are, then you will find them at the 

Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way when the event is several months in the future?

[Carol Pearson]

Sorry, Richard. Could you clarify if Dentist is in the subject line by itself 
and, if so, do you then still put the date/time in their respective Fields?



Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 30 May 2015, at 11:08 pm, Richard Turner  wrote:


I have that same version, Version 2.2.7 (416).
If you write the sentence with the subject as the first word, like "dentist on 
november 20, 2015 at 6 Am," it should work.
HTH,
Richard




> On May 30, 2015, at 3:03 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Thanks for your good suggestion.  I see it's Version 2.2.7.
>  
> I was alerted to the fact that I may not have the Version 2 because Alex 
> wrote, earlier in this thread:
> "Some people also like the Fantastical app for this purpose, since you can 
> type something like "appointment on November 4 ant 6" and it will figure out 
> when the event is automatically."
>  
> I tried that but just ccouldn't get it to work, hence my thinking that I may 
> not have Fantastical 2.  Also, nowhere (apart from the HELP, do I hear the 2 
> spoken, so not when I am on the app or anywhere else in it.
>  
> Anyway, if you or Alex, or anyone else, are able to give me any feedback, 
> that will be good;  otherwise I'll do as you suggest and write the author.
>  
> Thanks and hope this isn't too difficult to understand.
>  
> Carol P
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
> when the event is several months in the future?
> 
> 
> Fantastical 2 is the updated version from a couple years ago atleast.
> I don't remember if I had to buy the new version.
> First, why don't you go into Fantastical and double tap on settings and 
> scroll to the last item which says About Fantastical and double check which 
> version you have.
> Then you could write the developer if it isn't Fantastical 2 to ask your 
> questions since I can't remember what changed.
> The address is:
> h...@flexibits.com
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 30, 2015, at 4:49 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got Fantastical some while back.  Is Fantastical2 another app, which I'd 
>> now have to buy separately from Fantastical?  What are the differences in 
>> the two versions?
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
>> when the event is several months in the future?
>> 
>> 
>> I have not used the native calendar app for a long time.
>> I opened it and it proved to me why Fantastical 2 is a superior calendar.
>> Try this with the native app:
>> 1. Get to your desired month.
>> 2.
>> Make sure where it says "list button" it is not selected. If it says 
>> selected, double tap and it will not say selected.
>> 3. Find your day and double tap.
>> 4. Turn the rotor to events and flick up or down.
>> If that doesn't help, buy Fantastical 2 which will access all your events 
>> from the native calendar, etc.
>> That is my very biased and jaded opinion.
>> Feel free to ignore me.
>> I'm spending too much time fighting with other technology today, so probably 
>> have a more negative reaction to the Calendar than it deserves.
>> Later,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,  Richard.
>>> Tried it again. No luck.
>>> Yes, I’m in the month view.
>>> I go to July and make sure VO speaks Selected List button.
>>> I go to July 13, and VO speaks 2 Events.
>>> I double tap.
>>> I go to the area you suggested. VO speaks No Events. I flick back once, and 
>>> get the last day of July, July 31.
>>> Still stumped.
>>> Keith
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
>>> when the event is several months in the future?
>>> Keith,
>>> Are you in the month view when you double tap on the date with the events?
>>> If you are, then you will find them at the bottom of the screen just under 
>>> the last week of the month.
>>> The month view is like a wall calendar with each week across the screen, so 
>>> the month takes about 5 lines.
>>> Then under the last Sunday of the month if you have the weeks starting on 
>>> Sunday, you will find your events for that day.
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>>> what they become by it."
>>> 
>>> - John Ruskin
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 11:09 AM
>>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com

How to be safe from iOS flaw that crashes iPhone by a single message

[Dr. Harshit Jaithwar]

Apple's iMessage platform has been subject of a new bug that shuts
down your entire iPhone after receiving a particular message.

The message, whose second half is in Arabic, can send your phone into
a reboot no matter what task it is performing -- it's proved very
frustrating for
some users and it's not certain what the long term effects are.

Here's the fix: head into your Settings app, then the Notifications
tab, Messages and then switch off the slider called "show on local
screen and under
"alert style when unlocked" choose "none".

It's a pretty simple fix but it means if you're sent any more pesky
iMessages you're not going to be sent into the reboot again.

This is the text of the message

Over and over

A bug that means a specific string of text can completely crash
iPhones has led people to take extreme measures to keep their phones
safe.

A problem with the way that iOS handles notifications means that if
people are sent the code -- which includes strange words and unusual
symbols and Arabic
characters -- their phone grinds to a halt and restarts itself, before
becoming unuseable. Apple has said that it is aware of the problem and
is working
on a fix, but until then users have been forced to take the problem
into their own hands.

The most dramatic way of avoiding the problem is to turn off
notifications entirely for the Messages app.

That is done by heading to Settings and choosing Notifications and
then Messages, and swiping the toggle button so that "Show on Lock
Screen" is off and
the alert style when unlocked is set to "none". Messages will still
show up in the notification centre and as a small badge on the app on
the home screen,
but won't be able to load up as banners and shut down the phone.

The problem also seems to hit the Apple Watch. Turning off
notifications in the same way seems to remedy that.

An easier and less dramatic way of avoiding some of the chance of it
happening is to filter out unknown senders. That can be done from the
Messages options
in the Settings app.

Turning that setting on means that if a stranger sends a text, it is
sent into its own conversation and doesn't bring up an alert. That
means that people
who aren't in your contact book won't be able to make the bug happen --
you'll still get alerts from your friends, for better or for worse.

If the problem has already happened, it can be got around by either
sending a message to the person who you received the problem one from,
or sending yourself
a text. But since the Messages app is broken by the bug, users have to
take a roundabout route to do either.

You can either ask Siri to send a text, or do so from the share sheets
that can be found in most apps, such as Photos. It doesn't matter
what's said in
the text, as long as it's sent to yourself or the offending "effective
power" message sender.

Once that's done, the Messages app should come back to life and you
can head in and delete the conversation.

Apple has said that it is aware of the problem and is working on a fix.

Hundreds of forum users are reporting the issue. JoeyTheBoey on Reddit
said, "I have an un jailbroken iPhone 6 and it resprings my phone, but
only if I'm
not in the messages app, then it will show the message notification
badge when I get back in."

Jjc123cj on Reddit said, "Don't test this on your iPhone 6! I sent it
to myself and now my messaging app crashes when I try to open it ):"

Apple News on Twitter has spoken to Apple's senior engineers who
admitted they know there is a problem and said that they are hard at
work trying to fix
it.



Sent from my iPhone

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