Re: Air drop

[Chris]

Hi I don't use it "yet" and will stress why in a moment. Suffice to say 
it allows you to share information with devices nearby. Now here's why I 
don't use it. Currently only one device supports Airdrop, the iPad Mini 
2. But this month I will be upgrading my iPhone from a 4s to a 5s. This 
will mean I will have full access to not only Airdrop but other features 
as well.


On 04/08/2015 01:48, Marie Lyons wrote:

Could someone tell me what it is? I came across it in reference to sharing a 
contact.

Marie
  Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone



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Re: Ear pods

[Devin Prater]

Well, its been my experience that the earpods, having an open part, can get 
clogged up pretty easily.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> I would. I never buy anything apple-related from 3rd parties, unless I 
> absolutely have to. I think the only thing I’ve gotten by Apple from a 3rd 
> party is an adaptor for an ethernet port for my macbook air, and my most 
> recent iPad Air 2.
> The EarPods are $29, but are worth every penny.
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Merv Keck  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I apologize for sending a one line thank you to the list earlier. I have 
>> been looking at amazon for these Ear pods and it seems as if many customers 
>> are claiming in their reviews that the sellers from which they purchased did 
>> not sell them 100% genuine Apple products even though they claimed that is 
>> what they were indeed selling. So, if this is the product I am going to need 
>> for the individual in question who is asking for this product to be 
>> purchased I will take Sieghard Weitzel’s always wise technical advice and 
>> look to Apple for the direct purchase.
>>  
>>  
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Dice World!

[Chris]

Hi all Hannah and I  need a bit of help with Dice World! We are playing 
Farkle against each other. The problem is when it's my turn I can't do 
anything as all the numbers and the roll button are dimmed. The bank 
button isn't, but double tapping on that doesn't do anything either. I 
tried creating a new game with the same result. Please can you come up 
with anything? This would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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RE: Voice Dream Reader

[Gary Bowers]

Thanks, Richard. Your explanation helped. 

Gary

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader

If I read the manual correctly, The all item and playlist folders are system 
folders that you cannot edit as such.
If you open the playlist folder, you could add an item to it I believe.
But when you go to move an item, the All Items nor the Playlist show up as 
options for where to move something.

You might write the developer directly and ask for more information.
supp...@voicedream.com

HTH,
Richard
 

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Subject: Voice Dream Reader

How do you create a playlist in Voice Dream Reader?

I've checked the user manual and other sources on the Web, but I can't figure 
out how to move files to the playlist folder.

Gary

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Re: Air drop

[Thom Spittle]

It is a way to share information with someone near you.
You can send songs, pictures, contacts, and other things. I think it
uses Bluetooth technology.


On 8/3/15, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Airdrop is a way to share contacts and other information via Bluetooth with
> another iDevice within the Bluetooth range, which is about 30 feet.
>
>
>
> I hope that helps,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Marie Lyons
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Air drop
>
>
>
> Could someone tell me what it is? I came across it in reference to sharing a
> contact.
>
> Marie
>
>  Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Voice Dream Reader

[Richard Turner]

If I read the manual correctly, The all item and playlist folders are system 
folders that you cannot edit as such.
If you open the playlist folder, you could add an item to it I believe.
But when you go to move an item, the All Items nor the Playlist show up as 
options for where to move something.

You might write the developer directly and ask for more information.
supp...@voicedream.com

HTH,
Richard
 

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Subject: Voice Dream Reader

How do you create a playlist in Voice Dream Reader?

I've checked the user manual and other sources on the Web, but I can't
figure out how to move files to the playlist folder.

Gary

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RE: Air drop

[Richard Turner]

Airdrop is a way to share contacts and other information via Bluetooth with 
another iDevice within the Bluetooth range, which is about 30 feet.

 

I hope that helps,

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie Lyons
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Air drop

 

Could someone tell me what it is? I came across it in reference to sharing a 
contact.

Marie 

 Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone

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Air drop

[Marie Lyons]

Could someone tell me what it is? I came across it in reference to sharing a 
contact.

Marie 
 Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Docking iPhone and iPad all the time. Is it safe?

[Christopher Chaltain]

No, I don't recall Terry'spost, but I think we're saying the same thing. 
The iPhone switches to a trickle charge when the battery is getting 
close to being fully charged to protect the battery. Like I said, this 
is why you won't always see your battery charge to 100%.


On 08/03/2015 11:33 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:

Hi all,   Christopher Chaltain, please correct me if I'm wrong but are you 
saying the opposite to what terry said. That it isn't safe to leave it on 
charge because that the triple charge would damage the battery.




On 2 Aug 2015, at 20:02, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

No, most chargers switch to a trickle charge once the battery gets close to 
being fully charged. This is why you may only see the battery reach 99% charged 
and not always get to 100%. Lithium ion batteries like to be used and like to 
be recharged.


On 08/02/2015 01:17 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:


Hi all, recently I have been using my docking station a lot more for my audio 
needs for iPhone and iPad. The question is that if I'm putting my devices on 
charge all the time, an I putting strain on there batteries when they reach 100 
percent and stay at that level for long periods?
Any advice as to weather this is good or bad for the battery would be 
mosappreciated.

Many thanked

Daniel


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Re: Apple Store Purchase

[Barry Abbott]

Often you can upgrade from within the app itself.

Try Checking  under  settings for the app to see if there is an upgrade option.

Barry
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> Dulce
>  
> Hello all
> This morning I went to the app store and looked at a podcast I wanted. When I 
> first saw it listed, it gave me the option to purchase the premium version. I 
> did not do that but instead, I downloaded the free version. Once in the app, 
> I saw hundreds of other episodes that I could only listen to if I had the 
> premium version.
>   I went back to the app store and found it listed in my purchases. It no 
> longer gave me the option to purchase the premium version. I then deleted the 
> podcast from the phone and did another search for it. Perhaps, it knew that 
> I'd already looked at it and downloaded it, because I no longer saw the 
> option to purchase the premium version. 
>   What am I missing here in this scenario?
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Voice Dream Reader

[Gary Bowers]

How do you create a playlist in Voice Dream Reader?

I've checked the user manual and other sources on the Web, but I can't
figure out how to move files to the playlist folder.

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fb update - the new feature add link is inaccessible

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks

if you add a new thread with the fb app, now eventually you have the 
possibility to add a link, video or article from a search box list. That is 
very nice but if you want to check the search results you cannot control the 
elements, the only thing I hear in the list is watch which can be another 
word in the Englisch version of the app but I only know the Dutch 
translation of the word "bekijk".

For the rest, the app seems to work great.
Regards
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Apple Store Purchase

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

My sister asked me to forward this to the list as her messages are not
getting through to the list.

 

Dulce

 

Hello all

This morning I went to the app store and looked at a podcast I wanted. When
I first saw it listed, it gave me the option to purchase the premium
version. I did not do that but instead, I downloaded the free version. Once
in the app, I saw hundreds of other episodes that I could only listen to if
I had the premium version.

  I went back to the app store and found it listed in my purchases. It
no longer gave me the option to purchase the premium version. I then deleted
the podcast from the phone and did another search for it. Perhaps, it knew
that I'd already looked at it and downloaded it, because I no longer saw the
option to purchase the premium version. 

  What am I missing here in this scenario?

 

  Deidre

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Re: Ear pods

[Daniel Miller]

I would. I never buy anything apple-related from 3rd parties, unless I 
absolutely have to. I think the only thing I’ve gotten by Apple from a 3rd 
party is an adaptor for an ethernet port for my macbook air, and my most recent 
iPad Air 2.
The EarPods are $29, but are worth every penny.

> On Aug 3, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Merv Keck  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I apologize for sending a one line thank you to the list earlier. I have been 
> looking at amazon for these Ear pods and it seems as if many customers are 
> claiming in their reviews that the sellers from which they purchased did not 
> sell them 100% genuine Apple products even though they claimed that is what 
> they were indeed selling. So, if this is the product I am going to need for 
> the individual in question who is asking for this product to be purchased I 
> will take Sieghard Weitzel’s always wise technical advice and look to Apple 
> for the direct purchase.
>  
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Re: another headset question

[Shaf]

Apple

On 8/3/2015 6:24 PM, Nicki keck wrote:
> How much are they and where can you get them?  Don't have the ones that
> came with mine anymore.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: another headset question
> 
> I have to agree with this assessment. I have several earbuds/earphones
> which I've bought over the years -- everything from the cheapest of
> the cheapest to a set of Bose noise-cancelling earbuds which I use for
> serious listening. But for everyday use like audiobook listening and
> phone calls, I reach most often for the apple earpods. In fact I like
> them so well that I just replaced the ones that came with my phone and
> no longer worked in one ear.
> 
> Kimber
> 
> On 8/3/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for
>> calls
>> and even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently
>> some
>> people say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am
>> fortunately one of those where this is not a problem at all. If I put
>> them
>> in even just lightly they stay put quite well and I can still hear I
>> would
>> say 90 to 95%
>>
>> Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones
>> which
>> I use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible
>> quality and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they
>> don’t sound as good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Nicki keck
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: another headset question
>>
>>
>>
>> Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual
>> calling,
>> is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I
>> could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for
>> everything else but a better one just for calling that works, and for
>> SIRI
>> too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I
>> will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really
>> don’t want
>> to spend the money on one if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for
>> when I
>> call someone, so would like to find something cheaper that I can use just
>> for that.
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Re: another headset question

[Nicki keck]

How much are they and where can you get them?  Don't have the ones that came 
with mine anymore.


-Original Message- 
From: Kimber Gardner

Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: another headset question

I have to agree with this assessment. I have several earbuds/earphones
which I've bought over the years -- everything from the cheapest of
the cheapest to a set of Bose noise-cancelling earbuds which I use for
serious listening. But for everyday use like audiobook listening and
phone calls, I reach most often for the apple earpods. In fact I like
them so well that I just replaced the ones that came with my phone and
no longer worked in one ear.

Kimber

On 8/3/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for 
calls
and even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently 
some

people say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am
fortunately one of those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them
in even just lightly they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would
say 90 to 95%

Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones 
which

I use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible
quality and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they
don’t sound as good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nicki keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: another headset question



Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual 
calling,

is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I
could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for
everything else but a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI
too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I
will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really don’t 
want
to spend the money on one if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when 
I

call someone, so would like to find something cheaper that I can use just
for that.

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Ear pods

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I apologize for sending a one line thank you to the list earlier. I have
been looking at amazon for these Ear pods and it seems as if many customers
are claiming in their reviews that the sellers from which they purchased did
not sell them 100% genuine Apple products even though they claimed that is
what they were indeed selling. So, if this is the product I am going to need
for the individual in question who is asking for this product to be
purchased I will take Sieghard Weitzel's always wise technical advice and
look to Apple for the direct purchase.

 

 

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Re: Docking iPhone and iPad all the time. Is it safe?

[Daniel McGee]

Hi all,   Christopher Chaltain, please correct me if I'm wrong but are you 
saying the opposite to what terry said. That it isn't safe to leave it on 
charge because that the triple charge would damage the battery.



> On 2 Aug 2015, at 20:02, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> No, most chargers switch to a trickle charge once the battery gets close to 
> being fully charged. This is why you may only see the battery reach 99% 
> charged and not always get to 100%. Lithium ion batteries like to be used and 
> like to be recharged.
> 
>> On 08/02/2015 01:17 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all, recently I have been using my docking station a lot more for my 
>> audio needs for iPhone and iPad. The question is that if I'm putting my 
>> devices on charge all the time, an I putting strain on there batteries when 
>> they reach 100 percent and stay at that level for long periods?
>> Any advice as to weather this is good or bad for the battery would be 
>> mosappreciated.
>> 
>> Many thanked
>> 
>> Daniel
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Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition

[David Justice]

Ha!  I forgot about that option.  I think it does come with the OS.  I just 
took a look at it.  On my system there is the Apple dictionary and the American 
Oxford English Dictionary available.  I don't remember if both were available 
by default, or if I had to download one of them.  


  David Justice :) 


> On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:22 AM, "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>So long as I can use the edit function, I make use of the onboard 
> dictionary, it is very good and VO friendly. I also have an Italian 
> dictionary option, also good! I think I am remembering aright, this came with 
> the ios and didn't cost anything extra.
> 
>Sandy. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Aug 2015, at 17:50, David Justice  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Mary, 
>> 
>> The interesting thing about the Concise Oxford dictionary is that you can 
>> manage to get the definition.  Once you have typed in a word the definition 
>> is displayed on the screen.  Fine for sighted people, not so good for 
>> VoiceOver users as I said.  However, there is a more button.  If you press 
>> that and then select Share, then you can select message or mail and the 
>> definition will be readable in that app.  Once you have read it, then you 
>> cancel out and return to the dictionary.  Or, instead of choosing one of 
>> those apps, you could select copy and then paste the definition into notes 
>> or whatever.  Yeah I know, a pain to go through, especially for a short 
>> definition.
>> 
>> Oh yes, the cost for the app was about 12 or 13 dollars.  
>> 
>> 
>> David Justice :) 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't 
>>> it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they 
>>> just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice  wrote:
 
 
 I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store.  It 
 appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the 
 content.  Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which 
 VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. 
 
 
 David Justice :) 
 
 
> On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, "Gary Petraccaro"  
> wrote:
> 
> If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise.  It's the one 
> available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get 
> from Kurzweil.
> Just my $.02.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 
> 
> To: "ViPone list" 
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM
> Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
> 
> 
> 
> While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research 
> because of Mark's question about why it costs so much.
> The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon.
> Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds.
> It is 2112 pages.
> This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition.
> About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 
> print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD 
> Rom.
> Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost 
> of dictionaries have dropped dramatically.
> What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the 
> research on the history and usage of the words.
> According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible 
> with VoiceOver.
> 
> Just my two cents worth.
> Richard
> 
> 
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job resources

[Dane]

Howdy list,

Are any of you aware of a list for job seekers for the blind? I am in search of 
any info that will help me get back to work.
I am open to any suggestions. Feel free to write me off list as well.
I have an extensive background in sales, customer service, etc. I have also 
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Any suggestions would be much appreciated, Thanks.

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RE: another headset question

[Merv Keck]

If you knew what kind of crap I have gone through with headsets lately you 
would not be giving me grief about saying thanks. This headset is not for me. 
It is for someone else who has gone through a dozen headsets in the last few 
years either by losing or breaking them and I can say thanks out of a profound 
relief that these are for once inexpensive and not a set of $90 headset that 
will get lost or broken in a month. Any time you feel the need to moderate that 
go for it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another headset question

 

If you do want to buy a pair, one of the easiest ways is probably via the Apple 
Store app on your phone especially since they usually cost the same on Amazon. 
OK, so this is basically a one-liner as well, but “Thanks” as an entire 
separate message *smile*. Maybe it’s a good thing in this case the moderators 
seem to be so absent lately.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: another headset question

 

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: another headset question

 

They’re called Apple EarPods. :)

 

On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Merv Keck mailto:blind5spar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If I needed to search for replacement units for these for a 5S on amazon US 
store what are these called Apple iPods? iPodders?

Thanks in advance.

Merv

 

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 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:42 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another headset question

 

I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls and 
even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some people 
say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am fortunately one of 
those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them in even just lightly 
they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would say 90 to 95%

Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which I 
use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible quality 
and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they don’t sound as 
good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nicki keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: another headset question

 

Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling, is 
there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I could get 
just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for everything else but 
a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI too.  I am not crazy 
about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I will.  Another Bluetooth 
headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want to spend the money on one 
if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I call someone, so would like 
to find something cheaper that I can use just for that.

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RE: another headset question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you do want to buy a pair, one of the easiest ways is probably via the Apple 
Store app on your phone especially since they usually cost the same on Amazon. 
OK, so this is basically a one-liner as well, but “Thanks” as an entire 
separate message *smile*. Maybe it’s a good thing in this case the moderators 
seem to be so absent lately.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another headset question

 

Thanks.

 

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Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: another headset question

 

They’re called Apple EarPods. :)

 

On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Merv Keck mailto:blind5spar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If I needed to search for replacement units for these for a 5S on amazon US 
store what are these called Apple iPods? iPodders?

Thanks in advance.

Merv

 

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 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:42 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another headset question

 

I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls and 
even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some people 
say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am fortunately one of 
those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them in even just lightly 
they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would say 90 to 95%

Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which I 
use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible quality 
and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they don’t sound as 
good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

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 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nicki keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: another headset question

 

Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling, is 
there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I could get 
just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for everything else but 
a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI too.  I am not crazy 
about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I will.  Another Bluetooth 
headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want to spend the money on one 
if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I call someone, so would like 
to find something cheaper that I can use just for that.

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RE: another headset question

[Merv Keck]

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: another headset question

 

They’re called Apple EarPods. :)

 

On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Merv Keck mailto:blind5spar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If I needed to search for replacement units for these for a 5S on amazon US 
store what are these called Apple iPods? iPodders?

Thanks in advance.

Merv

 

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 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:42 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another headset question

 

I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls and 
even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some people 
say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am fortunately one of 
those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them in even just lightly 
they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would say 90 to 95%

Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which I 
use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible quality 
and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they don’t sound as 
good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

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Nicki keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: another headset question

 

Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling, is 
there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I could get 
just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for everything else but 
a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI too.  I am not crazy 
about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I will.  Another Bluetooth 
headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want to spend the money on one 
if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I call someone, so would like 
to find something cheaper that I can use just for that.

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RE: another headset question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kimber,

Not sure if you knew this, but if you have Apple Care I believe you can get two 
free earpod replacements. If you are near an Apple Store you can just go in and 
they will give you a new set on the spot otherwise you can call Apple and once 
they established you have Apple Care, they will send you a new set. You They do 
ask for the old pair to be returned back to them in the same packaging that the 
new earpods come in, all you have to do is remove the label and a return label 
is underneath, and you do have to give them a credit card which they 
preauthorize for what the earpods cost and should you not return the defective 
ones, they will charge you. The same applies to the Lightning cable which comes 
with the phone. I just did this not too long ago and as always the service was 
great.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: another headset question

I have to agree with this assessment. I have several earbuds/earphones which 
I've bought over the years -- everything from the cheapest of the cheapest to a 
set of Bose noise-cancelling earbuds which I use for serious listening. But for 
everyday use like audiobook listening and phone calls, I reach most often for 
the apple earpods. In fact I like them so well that I just replaced the ones 
that came with my phone and no longer worked in one ear.

Kimber

On 8/3/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for 
> calls and even for listening to audio books. I do understand that 
> apparently some people say they don’t fit them well and fall out 
> easily, but I am fortunately one of those where this is not a problem 
> at all. If I put them in even just lightly they stay put quite well 
> and I can still hear I would say 90 to 95%
>
> Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones 
> which I use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best 
> possible quality and while they have a remote and microphone, people 
> tell me they don’t sound as good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Nicki keck
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: another headset question
>
>
>
> Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual 
> calling, is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not 
> Bluetooth that I could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the 
> Aftershokz for everything else but a better one just for calling that 
> works, and for SIRI too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that’s 
> the best I can get, I will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be 
> expensive, and I really don’t want to spend the money on one if the 
> bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I call someone, so would like 
> to find something cheaper that I can use just for that.
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Re: another headset question

[Alan Lemly]

I realize that earphone preferences are about as subjective as TTS voice 
preferences but I also have to say that I find the Apple earpods. To beat the 
most useful and the best value out there. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> I have to agree with this assessment. I have several earbuds/earphones
> which I've bought over the years -- everything from the cheapest of
> the cheapest to a set of Bose noise-cancelling earbuds which I use for
> serious listening. But for everyday use like audiobook listening and
> phone calls, I reach most often for the apple earpods. In fact I like
> them so well that I just replaced the ones that came with my phone and
> no longer worked in one ear.
> 
> Kimber
> 
>> On 8/3/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls
>> and even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some
>> people say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am
>> fortunately one of those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them
>> in even just lightly they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would
>> say 90 to 95%
>> 
>> Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which
>> I use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible
>> quality and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they
>> don’t sound as good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Nicki keck
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: another headset question
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling,
>> is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I
>> could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for
>> everything else but a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI
>> too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I
>> will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want
>> to spend the money on one if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I
>> call someone, so would like to find something cheaper that I can use just
>> for that.
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Re: another headset question

[Daniel Miller]

They’re called Apple EarPods. :)

> On Aug 3, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Merv Keck  wrote:
> 
> If I needed to search for replacement units for these for a 5S on amazon US 
> store what are these called Apple iPods? iPodders?
> Thanks in advance.
> Merv
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: another headset question
>  
> I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls 
> and even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some 
> people say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am fortunately 
> one of those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them in even just 
> lightly they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would say 90 to 95%
> Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which I 
> use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible quality 
> and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they don’t sound 
> as good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Nicki keck
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: another headset question
>  
> Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling, 
> is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I could 
> get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for everything 
> else but a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI too.  I am 
> not crazy about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I will.  Another 
> Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want to spend the 
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RE: another headset question

[Merv Keck]

If I needed to search for replacement units for these for a 5S on amazon US 
store what are these called Apple iPods? iPodders?

Thanks in advance.

Merv

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: another headset question

 

I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls and 
even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some people 
say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am fortunately one of 
those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them in even just lightly 
they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would say 90 to 95%

Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which I 
use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible quality 
and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they don’t sound as 
good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicki keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: another headset question

 

Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling, is 
there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I could get 
just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for everything else but 
a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI too.  I am not crazy 
about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I will.  Another Bluetooth 
headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want to spend the money on one 
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Re: another headset question

[Kimber Gardner]

I have to agree with this assessment. I have several earbuds/earphones
which I've bought over the years -- everything from the cheapest of
the cheapest to a set of Bose noise-cancelling earbuds which I use for
serious listening. But for everyday use like audiobook listening and
phone calls, I reach most often for the apple earpods. In fact I like
them so well that I just replaced the ones that came with my phone and
no longer worked in one ear.

Kimber

On 8/3/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls
> and even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some
> people say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am
> fortunately one of those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them
> in even just lightly they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would
> say 90 to 95%
>
> Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which
> I use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible
> quality and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they
> don’t sound as good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Nicki keck
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: another headset question
>
>
>
> Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling,
> is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I
> could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for
> everything else but a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI
> too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I
> will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want
> to spend the money on one if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I
> call someone, so would like to find something cheaper that I can use just
> for that.
>
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RE: another headset question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I find the Apple Earpods which come with the iPhone to be perfect for calls and 
even for listening to audio books. I do understand that apparently some people 
say they don’t fit them well and fall out easily, but I am fortunately one of 
those where this is not a problem at all. If I put them in even just lightly 
they stay put quite well and I can still hear I would say 90 to 95%

Of what is going on around me. I have a pair of $200 Hi-Fi headphones which I 
use occasionally if I want to listen to music and want best possible quality 
and while they have a remote and microphone, people tell me they don’t sound as 
good for phone calls than the $30 Apple Earpods.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nicki keck
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: another headset question

 

Since we have established that the bluez 2 don’t do well for actual calling, is 
there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I could get 
just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for everything else but 
a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI too.  I am not crazy 
about earbuds, but if that’s the best I can get, I will.  Another Bluetooth 
headset would be expensive, and I really don’t want to spend the money on one 
if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I call someone, so would like 
to find something cheaper that I can use just for that.

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another headset question

[Nicki keck]

Since we have established that the bluez 2 don't do well for actual calling,
is there a good cheap headset with microphone even not Bluetooth that I
could get just for this purpose?  Then, I can use the Aftershokz for
everything else but a better one just for calling that works, and for SIRI
too.  I am not crazy about earbuds, but if that's the best I can get, I
will.  Another Bluetooth headset would be expensive, and I really don't want
to spend the money on one if the bluez 2 work fine for me except for when I
call someone, so would like to find something cheaper that I can use just
for that.

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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 review: Microsoft gets it right

[brian albriton]

I much appreciate this review of Microsoft windows 10. Is an iPhone user who 
does his iPhone maintenance using the Windows operating system I really 
appreciate this



> On Aug 2, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Steve  wrote:
> 
> You don't.
>  
> That was an internet urban legend.  If you don't upgrade after July 29 2016, 
> you will have to pay for Windows 10.
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Jim Portillo
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 12:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Microsoft Windows 10 review: Microsoft gets it right
> 
> Here's a question about Windows 10.
> I'm wondering if we upgrade our machines, how long will it be before we have 
> to begin paying for it?  And, will we have to be paying a subscription rate 
> per machine?
> This concerns me.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Microsoft Windows 10 review: Microsoft gets it right
> 
> I did not notice any mention of Narrator.
> I'm assuming that since the person was reviewing it from an accessibility 
> stand point, he was focused on more powerful, third party, screen readers.  
> But, that is only a guess.
> I have not tried any version of Windows 10, but those whom I know that have, 
> they don't have anything to say about narrator because they are focusing on 
> third party screen readers.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Windows 10 review: Microsoft gets it right
> 
> that review didn't mention narrator did it? I read it once but it may have 
> been updated.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 30, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Two things:
> > 1.  Edge, the new default browser is only accessible to NVDA beta so 
> > people will have to figure out how to launch IE in Windows 10 for web use 
> > 2.  Here is an extremely long review from an accessibility perspective from 
> > CoolBlindTech:
> > http://www.coolblindtech.com/stepping-over-the-threshold-windows-10-in
> > -1-words-thoroughly-reviewed/
> > 
> > If you copied this review into Word it is about 31 pages, but a lot of that 
> > is chatter but it is a good, positive, thorough review with some warnings 
> > for accessibility.
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of M. Taylor
> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:13 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Microsoft Windows 10 review: Microsoft gets it right
> > 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > As so many of us use our iOS devices in combination with Windows, I 
> > thought it appropriate to post this cNet review, on-list.
> > 
> > I have done my best to remove any orphan links or references but I may 
> > have missed a few.
> > 
> > You may find the link to the original article at the end of the text.
> > 
> > Enjoy,
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > Microsoft Windows 10 review: Microsoft gets it right
> > By: Nate Ralph
> > Reviewed: July 28, 2015
> > 
> > The Good:
> > Windows 10 bridges the gap between PCs and tablets without alienating 
> > anyone. The new OS combines the best bits of old and new Windows 
> > features into a cohesive package, while correcting nearly all of the 
> > missteps of Windows 8. The upgrade process is mostly painless, and 
> > free for most Windows
> > 7 and 8 users.
> > 
> > The Bad:
> > Many of the new features will be lost on those who don't care about touch.
> > Automatic, forced updates could spell trouble later on. Cortana's 
> > features are better suited for smartphones.
> > 
> > The Bottom Line:
> > Windows 10 delivers a refined, vastly improved vision for the future 
> > of computing with an operating system that's equally at home on 
> > tablets and traditional PCs -- and it's a free upgrade for most users.
> > 
> > Windows 10 is the Goldilocks version of Microsoft's venerable PC 
> > operating system -- a "just right" compromise between the familiar 
> > dependability of Windows 7, and the forward-looking touchscreen vision of 
> > Windows 8.
> > 
> > This new Windows, available as a free upgrade for existing Windows 7 
> > and Windows 8 noncorporate users, is built from the ground up to 
> > pursue Microsoft's vision of a unified OS that spans all devices 
> > without alienating any one platform. It's an attempt to safeguard 
> > Microsoft's crumbling software hegemony, assailed on all sides by 
> > Google and Apple. And it's a vision of the future as Microsoft sees 
> > it, where a single user experience spans every piece of technology we 
> > touch. Welcome to Windows as a service.
> > 
> > Yes, this new OS is chock-full of fresh features. To name just a few:

Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

[Daniel Miller]

No, that shouldn’t make a difference. We are talking about the beta of 9, 
correct? If we are, I should probably refrain from saying any more until the 
fall.
> On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:43 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, Daniel:
> 
> Can I just confirm what you mean here? you write:
> I can confirm it's fixed, unless I'm paranoid, and it's truly not? I'm using 
> a Focus 40 Blue.
> So you're saying, it is fixed and you're not just imagining it! Well, if 
> that's the case, it's good, good news. I'm running a 4Ness, by the way, but 
> that shouldn't make a difference.
> 
> Carol P
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: brian albriton 
> To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
> CC: 
> Date: Monday, 3 August 2015 1.33 pm
> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'd like to be sure that the cursor issue is fixed it is an abysmal process 
>> trying to track where you are with the braille device
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2015, at 5.28 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Carol,
>> 
>> I just did a few tests, and yes, I can confirm it's fixed, unless I'm 
>> paranoid, and it's truly not? I'm using a Focus 40 Blue.
> 0was On Aug 3, 2015, at 7.19 AM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via 
> VIPhone  wrote:
> 0was 
> 0was I didn't notice this to be fixed and in fact think I saw that very bug a 
> couple of days ago.
> 0was  
> 0was However, I'll do a specific test and make sure.
> 0was  
> 0was Carol P
> 0was  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Daniel Miller
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12.00 PM
 Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE
 
 Hi, Johnathon,
 
 Actually, I'd like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there's a 
 bug in iOS 8 where if you're correcting a spelling mistake you made, and 
 you insert a letter that's also a contraction, the letter would get 
 expanded into said contraction. That's been fixed, as far as I could tell.
 
> On Aug 3, 2015, at 4.42 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with 
> iOS 9.
> I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
> Braille users work with their devices.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://,m;osen.org
> 
>> On 2/08/2015, at 5.11 am, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via 
>> VIPhone  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Donna
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5.42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE
>>> 
>>> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
>>> braille displays. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 12.33 PM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via 
 VIPhone  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, 
 but I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille 
 facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks 
 of using a Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is 
 one of the things I am passionate about and another is the way in 
 which the cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very 
 accurately and I am not always sure exactly where I am placed.  I 
 shouldn't have to pick up my phone to check this out.
 
 On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
 interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for 
 you, together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has 
 "given up" with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, 
 though, and of course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we 
 can perhaps manage in other ways.
 
 If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped 
 listening to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do 
 you think needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a 
 real pleasure and enhance life once again?
 
 Carol P
 
 
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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Sorry, Daniel:

Can I just confirm what you mean here? you write:
I can confirm it's fixed, unless I'm paranoid, and it's truly not? I'm using a 
Focus 40 Blue.
So you're saying, it is fixed and you're not just imagining it! Well, if that's 
the case, it's good, good news. I'm running a 4Ness, by the way, but that 
shouldn't make a difference.

Carol P

- Original Message -
From: brian albriton 
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Monday, 3 August 2015 1.33 pm
Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE

>
>
> I'd like to be sure that the cursor issue is fixed it is an abysmal process 
> trying to track where you are with the braille device
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2015, at 5.28 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Carol,
> 
> I just did a few tests, and yes, I can confirm it's fixed, unless I'm 
> paranoid, and it's truly not? I'm using a Focus 40 Blue.
0was On Aug 3, 2015, at 7.19 AM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:
0was 
0was I didn't notice this to be fixed and in fact think I saw that very bug a 
couple of days ago.
0was  
0was However, I'll do a specific test and make sure.
0was  
0was Carol P
0was  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12.00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE
>>> 
>>> Hi, Johnathon,
>>> 
>>> Actually, I'd like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there's a 
>>> bug in iOS 8 where if you're correcting a spelling mistake you made, and 
>>> you insert a letter that's also a contraction, the letter would get 
>>> expanded into said contraction. That's been fixed, as far as I could tell.
>>> 
 On Aug 3, 2015, at 4.42 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
 
 There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 
 9.
 I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
 Braille users work with their devices.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://,m;osen.org
 
> On 2/08/2015, at 5.11 am, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via 
> VIPhone  wrote:
> 
> Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Donna
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5.42 PM
>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT For BRAILLE
>> 
>> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
>> braille displays. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12.33 PM, ',c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com' via 
>>> VIPhone  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, 
>>> but I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille 
>>> facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of 
>>> using a Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is one 
>>> of the things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the 
>>> cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I 
>>> am not always sure exactly where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick 
>>> up my phone to check this out.
>>>  
>>> On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
>>> interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
>>> together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given 
>>> up" with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, 
>>> and of course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can 
>>> perhaps manage in other ways.
>>>  
>>> If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped 
>>> listening to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do 
>>> you think needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a real 
>>> pleasure and enhance life once again?
>>>  
>>> Carol P
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: Tweet from @Twitterrific

[Devin Prater]

Ah, I see. That's okay. :) I was just wondering. I also wish twitterific had 
twishort or twitlonger support.. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Sadly, the only app I'm aware of that will do this is the official Twitter 
> app.
> Or you can set up Twitter's SMS service and get tweets from a list of people 
> texted to you.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 29/07/2015, at 11:35 am, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Now ∫hat's what I call awesome! Now does anyone know how I can get 
>> Twitterific to send notifications when new tweets from certain people come 
>> in?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am a happy Twitterrific user. I had never seen all these gestures in one 
>>> place. I thought others might be interested.
>>> Mary
>>> Twitterrific @Twitterrific
>>> @rau47 Here is a list of VoiceOver gestures in Twitterrific - 
>>> http://support.iconfactory.com/kb/twitterrific/voiceover-gestures-in-twitterrific-5
>>> 24 July
>>> 
>>> Conversation sent from Twitterrific
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

[brian albriton]

I'd like to be sure that the cursor issue is fixed it is an abysmal process 
trying to track where you are with the braille device



> On Aug 3, 2015, at 5:28 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Carol,
> 
> I just did a few tests, and yes, I can confirm it’s fixed, unless I’m 
> paranoid, and it’s truly not? I’m using a Focus 40 Blue.
>> On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:19 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't notice this to be fixed and in fact think I saw that very bug a 
>> couple of days ago.
>>  
>> However, I'll do a specific test and make sure.
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
>>> 
>>> Hi, Johnathon,
>>> 
>>> Actually, I’d like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there’s a 
>>> bug in iOS 8 where if you’re correcting a spelling mistake you made, and 
>>> you insert a letter that’s also a contraction, the letter would get 
>>> expanded into said contraction. That’s been fixed, as far as I could tell.
>>> 
 On Aug 3, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
 
 There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 
 9.
 I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
 Braille users work with their devices.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
> On 2/08/2015, at 5:11 am, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Donna
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
>> 
>> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
>> braille displays. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:33 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
>>> VIPhone  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, 
>>> but I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille 
>>> facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of 
>>> using a Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is one 
>>> of the things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the 
>>> cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I 
>>> am not always sure exactly where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick 
>>> up my phone to check this out.
>>>  
>>> On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
>>> interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
>>> together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given 
>>> up" with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, 
>>> and of course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can 
>>> perhaps manage in other ways.
>>>  
>>> If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped 
>>> listening to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do 
>>> you think needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a real 
>>> pleasure and enhance life once again?
>>>  
>>> Carol P
>>>  
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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

[Daniel Miller]

Hi Carol,

I just did a few tests, and yes, I can confirm it’s fixed, unless I’m paranoid, 
and it’s truly not? I’m using a Focus 40 Blue.
> On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:19 AM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I didn't notice this to be fixed and in fact think I saw that very bug a 
> couple of days ago.
>  
> However, I'll do a specific test and make sure.
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Daniel Miller 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
>> 
>> Hi, Johnathon,
>> 
>> Actually, I’d like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there’s a bug 
>> in iOS 8 where if you’re correcting a spelling mistake you made, and you 
>> insert a letter that’s also a contraction, the letter would get expanded 
>> into said contraction. That’s been fixed, as far as I could tell.
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 
>>> 9.
>>> I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
>>> Braille users work with their devices.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org 
 On 2/08/2015, at 5:11 am, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 ' via VIPhone 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 
 Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
  
 Carol P
  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Donna 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
> 
> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
> braille displays. 
> 
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:33 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
> ' via VIPhone 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, 
>> but I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille 
>> facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of 
>> using a Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is one 
>> of the things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the 
>> cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I 
>> am not always sure exactly where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick 
>> up my phone to check this out.
>>  
>> On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
>> interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
>> together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given 
>> up" with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, 
>> and of course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can 
>> perhaps manage in other ways.
>>  
>> If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped listening 
>> to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do you think 
>> needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a real pleasure 
>> and enhance life once again?
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
>> 
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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

I didn't notice this to be fixed and in fact think I saw that very bug a couple 
of days ago.

However, I'll do a specific test and make sure.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:00 PM
  Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE


  Hi, Johnathon,


  Actually, I’d like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there’s a bug 
in iOS 8 where if you’re correcting a spelling mistake you made, and you insert 
a letter that’s also a contraction, the letter would get expanded into said 
contraction. That’s been fixed, as far as I could tell.


On Aug 3, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:


There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 
9.
I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
Braille users work with their devices.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


  On 2/08/2015, at 5:11 am, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


  Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?

  Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: Donna
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE


I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
braille displays. 


Donna

On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:33 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


  Hi all,

  I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, 
but I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille facilities 
and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of using a Braille 
display at present.  The time lag of the display is one of the things I am 
passionate about and another is the way in which the cursor appears to be 
unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I am not always sure exactly 
where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick up my phone to check this out.

  On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also 
be interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given up" with 
Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, and of course, 
deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can perhaps manage in other ways.

  If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped 
listening to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do you 
think needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a real pleasure 
and enhance life once again?

  Carol P



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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

[Daniel Miller]

You’re welcome. I can do more tests as well, but I could’ve swore it was fixed 
in an earlier beta. I’ll let you know what I find. :)
> On Aug 3, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Daniel, I will check this out again more thoroughly, but certainly in 
> an early beta I was seeing no change. If that has in fact improved, then this 
> is a big step forward.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
>> On 3/08/2015, at 11:00 pm, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Johnathon,
>> 
>> Actually, I’d like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there’s a bug 
>> in iOS 8 where if you’re correcting a spelling mistake you made, and you 
>> insert a letter that’s also a contraction, the letter would get expanded 
>> into said contraction. That’s been fixed, as far as I could tell.
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 
>>> 9.
>>> I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
>>> Braille users work with their devices.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org 
 On 2/08/2015, at 5:11 am, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 ' via VIPhone 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 
 Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
  
 Carol P
  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Donna 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
> 
> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
> braille displays. 
> 
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:33 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
> ' via VIPhone 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, 
>> but I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille 
>> facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of 
>> using a Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is one 
>> of the things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the 
>> cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I 
>> am not always sure exactly where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick 
>> up my phone to check this out.
>>  
>> On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
>> interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
>> together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given 
>> up" with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, 
>> and of course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can 
>> perhaps manage in other ways.
>>  
>> If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped listening 
>> to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do you think 
>> needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a real pleasure 
>> and enhance life once again?
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

[Jonathan Mosen]

Thanks Daniel, I will check this out again more thoroughly, but certainly in an 
early beta I was seeing no change. If that has in fact improved, then this is a 
big step forward.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 3/08/2015, at 11:00 pm, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Johnathon,
> 
> Actually, I’d like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there’s a bug 
> in iOS 8 where if you’re correcting a spelling mistake you made, and you 
> insert a letter that’s also a contraction, the letter would get expanded into 
> said contraction. That’s been fixed, as far as I could tell.
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 9.
>> I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
>> Braille users work with their devices.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 2/08/2015, at 5:11 am, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>>> ' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
>>>  
>>> Carol P
>>>  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donna 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
 
 I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
 braille displays. 
 
 Donna
 
 On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:33 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 ' via VIPhone 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
 
> Hi all,
>  
> I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, but 
> I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille 
> facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of 
> using a Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is one 
> of the things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the 
> cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I 
> am not always sure exactly where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick 
> up my phone to check this out.
>  
> On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
> interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
> together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given 
> up" with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, 
> and of course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can perhaps 
> manage in other ways.
>  
> If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped listening 
> to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do you think 
> needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a real pleasure 
> and enhance life once again?
>  
> Carol P
>  
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Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi,

So long as I can use the edit function, I make use of the onboard 
dictionary, it is very good and VO friendly. I also have an Italian dictionary 
option, also good! I think I am remembering aright, this came with the ios and 
didn't cost anything extra.

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Aug 2015, at 17:50, David Justice  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mary, 
> 
> The interesting thing about the Concise Oxford dictionary is that you can 
> manage to get the definition.  Once you have typed in a word the definition 
> is displayed on the screen.  Fine for sighted people, not so good for 
> VoiceOver users as I said.  However, there is a more button.  If you press 
> that and then select Share, then you can select message or mail and the 
> definition will be readable in that app.  Once you have read it, then you 
> cancel out and return to the dictionary.  Or, instead of choosing one of 
> those apps, you could select copy and then paste the definition into notes or 
> whatever.  Yeah I know, a pain to go through, especially for a short 
> definition.
> 
> Oh yes, the cost for the app was about 12 or 13 dollars.  
> 
> 
>  David Justice :) 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't 
>> it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they 
>> just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store.  It 
>>> appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the 
>>> content.  Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which 
>>> VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Justice :) 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, "Gary Petraccaro"  
 wrote:
 
 If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise.  It's the one 
 available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get 
 from Kurzweil.
 Just my $.02.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 
 
 To: "ViPone list" 
 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM
 Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
 
 
 
 While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research 
 because of Mark's question about why it costs so much.
 The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon.
 Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds.
 It is 2112 pages.
 This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition.
 About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 
 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD 
 Rom.
 Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost 
 of dictionaries have dropped dramatically.
 What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the 
 research on the history and usage of the words.
 According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with 
 VoiceOver.
 
 Just my two cents worth.
 Richard
 
 
 
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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

[Daniel Miller]

Hi, Johnathon,

Actually, I’d like to correct you on one thing. If you recall, there’s a bug in 
iOS 8 where if you’re correcting a spelling mistake you made, and you insert a 
letter that’s also a contraction, the letter would get expanded into said 
contraction. That’s been fixed, as far as I could tell.

> On Aug 3, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 9.
> I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how 
> Braille users work with their devices.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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>> On 2/08/2015, at 5:11 am, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>> ' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Donna 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
>>> 
>>> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use 
>>> braille displays. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:33 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>>> ' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
  
 I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, but 
 I wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille 
 facilities and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of 
 using a Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is one of 
 the things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the 
 cursor appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I am 
 not always sure exactly where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick up my 
 phone to check this out.
  
 On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
 interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
 together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given up" 
 with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, and of 
 course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can perhaps manage 
 in other ways.
  
 If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped listening 
 to your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do you think 
 needs to be done to make working with Braille displays a real pleasure and 
 enhance life once again?
  
 Carol P
  
 
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RE: Not getting notivications on my watch

[Amy Ruel]

Lol, gotta love it!

I have now finally gotten messages to be displayed, although they don’t delete 
when I clear them from the watch, making it necessary to then review and clear 
them on the phohe. An annoyance for sure.

I don’t get mail pushed to my watch at all unless the app is open on my iPhone.

I guess I would rather have my situation than yours. I have over 200 apps on my 
phone and it took some time to get most of them not to push 

To the watch.

Le me know how you make out.

Amy

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Not getting notivications on my watch

 

Hi Amy, I'll swap. Lol. I'm having exactly the opposite problem. I want only 
essential notifications on my Watch, such as messages, VIP mail, and a small 
number of other apps. I have a very, very large number of apps on my iPhone. I 
went into Notifications in the Watch app and turned off just about everything, 
but despite this, everything is pushing to my Watch.

I've even reset, and set up as a new watch. No dice.

I suppose as a last resort, I may have to set up my iPhone as new and see if 
that resolves it.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 28/07/2015, at 11:46 pm, Amy Ruel  wrote:

 

Hello all,

I have just purchased an Apple Watch and have it set up correctly, I think!

I have the apps I want the phone to access set up in notifications, messaging 
and mail. My watch works, is connected to my phone, is not muted. However, I 
don’t get sound or haptic feedback when messages come in or mail is received. I 
have tried sending myself email to test this to no avail. My battery is 
currently at 92%, so I don’t think that this is the issue. My watch is paired 
and volume is at 100%.

 

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Amy

 

 

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Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE

[Jonathan Mosen]

There is no change of any significance to the  defects in Braille with iOS 9.
I can only conclude Apple has no one working there who understands how Braille 
users work with their devices.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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> On 2/08/2015, at 5:11 am, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Don't they already?  But they don't really work well, do they?
>  
> Carol P
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Donna 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: APPLE SUPPORT FOR BRAILLE
>> 
>> I'll just say that IOS will have specific settings for those who use braille 
>> displays. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:33 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>> ' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> I know you can't really disclose Apple's plans, as it were, for IOS9, but I 
>>> wonder if any of you testers can assure me you use the Braille facilities 
>>> and are looking to iron out some of the abysmal drawbacks of using a 
>>> Braille display at present.  The time lag of the display is one of the 
>>> things I am passionate about and another is the way in which the cursor 
>>> appears to be unable to follow the Braille very accurately and I am not 
>>> always sure exactly where I am placed.  I shouldn't have to pick up my 
>>> phone to check this out.
>>>  
>>> On a general issue and not just looking at what's to come, I'd also be 
>>> interested in any settings you have that make the lagging less for you, 
>>> together with which display you're using.  Perhaps everyone has "given up" 
>>> with Braille input in this way now.  We shouldn't have to, though, and of 
>>> course, deaf-blind friends still need this, even if we can perhaps manage 
>>> in other ways.
>>>  
>>> If Jonathan Moson is reading this, Jonathan, has Apple stopped listening to 
>>> your comments on using Braille displays?  What exactly do you think needs 
>>> to be done to make working with Braille displays a real pleasure and 
>>> enhance life once again?
>>>  
>>> Carol P
>>>  
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Re: Tweet from @Twitterrific

[Jonathan Mosen]

Sadly, the only app I'm aware of that will do this is the official Twitter app.
Or you can set up Twitter's SMS service and get tweets from a list of people 
texted to you.
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> On 29/07/2015, at 11:35 am, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Now ∫hat's what I call awesome! Now does anyone know how I can get 
> Twitterific to send notifications when new tweets from certain people come in?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 25, 2015, at 11:49 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am a happy Twitterrific user. I had never seen all these gestures in one 
>> place. I thought others might be interested.
>> Mary
>> Twitterrific @Twitterrific
>> @rau47 Here is a list of VoiceOver gestures in Twitterrific - 
>> http://support.iconfactory.com/kb/twitterrific/voiceover-gestures-in-twitterrific-5
>>  
>> 
>>   
>> 24 July   
>> Conversation sent from Twitterrific 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Not getting notivications on my watch

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Amy, I'll swap. Lol. I'm having exactly the opposite problem. I want only 
essential notifications on my Watch, such as messages, VIP mail, and a small 
number of other apps. I have a very, very large number of apps on my iPhone. I 
went into Notifications in the Watch app and turned off just about everything, 
but despite this, everything is pushing to my Watch.
I've even reset, and set up as a new watch. No dice.
I suppose as a last resort, I may have to set up my iPhone as new and see if 
that resolves it.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 28/07/2015, at 11:46 pm, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I have just purchased an Apple Watch and have it set up correctly, I think!
> I have the apps I want the phone to access set up in notifications, messaging 
> and mail. My watch works, is connected to my phone, is not muted. However, I 
> don’t get sound or haptic feedback when messages come in or mail is received. 
> I have tried sending myself email to test this to no avail. My battery is 
> currently at 92%, so I don’t think that this is the issue. My watch is paired 
> and volume is at 100%.
>  
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks.
> Amy
>  
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Re: bluez 2 by Aftershokz

[Krister Ekstrom]

Ok, so if the Bluez2 aren’t any good for calling, is there any other Bluetooth 
headset that works well with all aspects of Blindsquare? My beloved Plantronics 
Voyager legend is good when it comes to calling but it doesn’t work with the 
Audio menu of Blindsquare, so what should i use instead?
/Krister


> 3 aug. 2015 kl. 03:04 skrev Alex Hall :
> 
> True, they do work well for exercising, walking/jogging, etc. They are water 
> resistant, and I can tell you I've taken mine through plenty of hot and humid 
> days, light rain, and so on. This set still works, and my last set broke due 
> to structural failure, not water damage.
>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Cristóbal > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, indeed. I gave up on using them as a hands free calling solution. Call 
>> quality is really pretty crappy. I mainly use mine for working out. 
>> Stationary bike, elyptical, resistance bands/cables, that sort of thing. I 
>> do like the fact that I can work out with headphones and not get my ears all 
>> heated up and sweaty.
>> I broke my set and ordered a replacement under the warranty. I just fixed 
>> the broken ones with a cut up old credit card and some electircal tape and 
>> sold the replacements on eBay instead of holding on to them. Good concept 
>> and they’re even good for listening, but don’t’ expect any more than that.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: bluez 2 by Aftershokz
>>  
>> That's one of m complaints about this headset. Siri and dictation are, I'm 
>> pretty sure, a limitation of the current bluetooth standard used by 
>> Aftershokz, and they'd need to make a whole new model to address the 
>> problem. Even then, I don't know that upgrading to bluetooth 4 or 4.1 would 
>> fix things.
>>  
>> Call quality is the other problem I've run into. It's like the microphones 
>> just don't work well, and the volume others hear is very low. I find the 
>> Bluez works okay in quiet environments, and sometimes I can manage to use it 
>> while I'm outside, but it's certainly not the best for making calls. Sorry I 
>> can't offer more positive news.
>>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Nicki keck >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> I have the bluez 2 Aftershokz headset for my iPhone, and I like it a lot, 
>>> but there is one question I have.  The voice quality on phone calls really 
>>> sucks.  I had thought maybe sometimes, it was just a bad connection, but it 
>>> seems like it is really hard for people to hear me on it.  Today, when I 
>>> turned it off while talking to a friend, she could hear me a lot better 
>>> without it, but I can’t and don’t want to talk on the phone while holding 
>>> it to my ear all the time.  Also, SIRI and dictation are deplorable with 
>>> this headset.  Does anyone have any tips for getting it to work better, or 
>>> is there any firmware update or something I can get that might improve 
>>> this?  Any help would be appreciated.
>>>  
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