Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

It may have been a good idea, but was pretty confusing for a few of us when 
first we got "hands on" and, in fact, I may have purchased, had I been given 
clearer instruction to pair. As it was, my demo never got going and I'm really 
very disappointed. I just have to speak as I found things. Now, until I am sure 
it's going to meet my needs, I hardly can request another demo.




Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 15 Aug 2015, at 3:37 am, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

HIMS still has to wait until Apple releases support for the Smart Beetle, so 
except for just postponing the availability of the Smart Beetle, I'm not sure 
what HIMS could have done to get their act together. In fact, I think making 
the Smart Beetle use the Braille Sense protocol is a pretty good idea.

> On 08/14/2015 04:58 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Hmm!  Wish S&S had their act together before my demo.  I'd thought,
> maybe, the use of the Braille Sense, in the manual was perhaps an
> oversight in not correcting stuff ... as this happens ... but it wasn't,
> I gather.
> 
> The other reason that would make me really want this unit is if you
> could answer "Yes" definitely to one further point.
> 
> You may not have done this, but you can use the clipboard setting to
> temporarily disable the keyboard so that you can write something in your
> own clipboard, so to speak.  In this case, you write quite a bit of
> text, say, 300 words, then try sending to your iPhone.
> 
> You get into the clipboard with backspace+enter+C and then send by
> pressing "Enter".
> 
> In previous Sense products, I've found this to be too slow for me and
> even unreliable, possibly running out of memory ...
> 
> I'd love to be able to use this feature, but quickly and not feel I
> wanted to drink a cuppa whilst waiting.  I found it translated the text
> only as quickly as it did ifyou were brailling directly and were having
> to wait for it to be translated into the phone, and that wasn't what I
> wanted!
> 
> Can you try this out, please, and let me know what you think.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Thanks also for the instructions you gave below, which I'll keep for
> further reference.
> 
> Carol P
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
> To: "VIPhone" 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
> 
> 
> Hi Carol,
> 
> Yes, at present you have to pair Smart Beetle as BrailleSense because
> Apple has not as yet incorporated the Smart Beetle driver into its
> operating systems.  However, HIMS provide instructions on how to make
> Smart Beetle appear as BrailleSense.  Once i took the initial steps to
> accomplish this on Smart Beetle itself, the pairing went smoothly.
> 
> Below I'm pasting the instructions as I received them from HIMS.  They
> are also included with the product on a separate Braille sheet.
> "Smart Beetle with Apple products.
> Note, the below refers to using Smart Beetle with products running
> Apple's iOS, including iPhone, iPad, and iPod as well as mac computers.
> At the time of this writing, Apple has not implemented a Smart Beetle
> specific driver into iOS or the Mac OS. Thus, it has become necessary
> for us to do a work around in order that you may use your Smart Beetle
> with i-devices and Mac computers.
> In short, this work-around allows the Smart Beetle to emulate a Braille
> Sense notetaker, which is supported in Apple's operating systems. You
> can turn this emulation on and off simply by changing the Bluetooth name
> for the Bluetooth Serial port on the Smart Beetle.
> note: this work-around requires you to use the Smart Beetle via
> Bluetooth when using a Mac computer.
> 
> To change the Bluetooth name, please do the following:
> 1) Press Power-F1, choose BRL and press "Enter". The unit displays
> "pairing BRL".
> 2) Press the Power button to open the menu, and Press the shortcut "I"
> to open "Information".
> 3) From the "Information" list, press (F2-F3-Dot1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8).
> 4) Return to "Information", and confirm the BRL Bluetooth name.
> Each time you follow these steps, the Bluetooth name is toggled between
> "SmartBeetle" and "BrailleSense", thus, you can use Smart Beetle in it's
> normal configuration for other screen readers. In addition, when Apple
> introduces Smart gheetle support, you will be able to change the
> Bluetooth name back to Smart Beetle and use it properly from that time."
> 
> I was nervous at first but I had downloaded the user guide for Smart
> Beetle from HIMS website and since the description of the unit was very
> good, I was able to learn a lot about it before I actually put my hands
> on it.
> 
> Good luck and ask anything if you wish and I will do my best to answer.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:40, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> 
>> How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings are
>> you using?
>> 
>> I

Re: Amazon Echo

[Mike M]

Hey there,
I have had my echo for a month or two now and I really like it. The app 
leaves a lot to be desired but it’s still something you can set up and use 
pretty easily. Once the initial set up is finished you don’t really need to use 
the app much at all. You can control it simply by talking to it and if you’ve 
got Amazon Prime you can listen to all the music they have for the most part. 
I made this little podcast recently talking a little more about it and 
showing a bit of what it can do. If you have more questions just holler.
http://htb2.com/2015/08/to-the-point-28-meet-the-amazon-echo/


> On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Blind Treasures  
> wrote:
> 
> I've read a little about the Amazon Echo on this list and it got me a little
> interested. However, I was hoping that some of you who are currently using
> the device can talk a little about how you use it and how accessible it it.
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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> live a hundred years smothered by a lie."--Lena Haloway
> 
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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Conrad Bennett]

iOS nine beta has AT&T Wi-Fi calling you can enable 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
> Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in certain
> locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
> excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.  
> 
> I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.  
> 
> Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the US
> is offering this ability other than Sprint?  
> 
> It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality was
> when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
> their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).
> 
> Mark
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Amazon Echo

[Blind Treasures]

I've read a little about the Amazon Echo on this list and it got me a little
interested. However, I was hoping that some of you who are currently using
the device can talk a little about how you use it and how accessible it it.
Thanks in advance.

"I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than
live a hundred years smothered by a lie."--Lena Haloway

Blind Treasures
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PH: 804-726-8900
Web: www.blindtreasures.com
  

  

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Re: What is GPRS

[Agent086b]

Thanks for this. I didn’t think to google it!. This must be whilst they are 
doing the 4G upgrade.
Thanks again.
Max.

> On 15 Aug 2015, at 12:10 pm, Aman Singer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> GPRS is a slower, I think it would only qualify as 2G, data service.
> It stands for general packet radio service and the Wikipedia page
> gives a good overview
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service
> I believe, though this is relying on very old memories, that the
> maximum speed is something like 300 kilobits/second. I wouldn't try to
> watch youtube with it. It may get your email, though slowly.
> Aman
> 
> On 8/14/15, Agent086b  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> my provider is upgrading our service out here to 4G. At times when I look at
>> the signal strength my provider’s name then next instead of 3G or 4G I hear
>> GPRS. Can anybody explain the GPRS?
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Max.
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Re: Contact Info for Moderators

[Shawn Krasniuk]

All I can say is good luck with that. Cara's also the moderator of the Mac 
Visionaries list and no one knows where she's been. Without her moderation, for 
the past few months it's been chaotic on that list. So basically what I'm 
saying is you might be wasting your time trying to contact her because no one 
knows where she is.

Shawn
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> On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
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> Thanks, Richard.  I'll pass it on to my sister, Deidre, who still can't post
> to the list.
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> Hi Dulce,
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> As far as I know, at this point, Cara Quinn is the only moderator.
> Raul has excused himself from doing anything due to his not having time.
> Cara Quinn ' Emails: caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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Re: Trivia crack

[Shawn Krasniuk]

As I've said before, I'm not experiencing what others are experiencing with 
Trivia Crack but that could be because, if I can say this here, I'm running iOS 
9 Beta 3 on my 5S.

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> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:46 PM, leliastr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
> 
> If I were anybody who plays the game of Trivia Crack I would not updated, I 
> did because I saw someone saying that they were having issues so I wanted to 
> see if I did and I do. Basically, The game has become unplayable. It crashes, 
> and it's very hard to find the people that you were playing with. It is just 
> unplayable. At least on my iPhone 5S with I don't remember what update I 
> think it's 8.4 or something
> 
> Lelia 
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Christopher Chaltain]

HIMS still has to wait until Apple releases support for the Smart 
Beetle, so except for just postponing the availability of the Smart 
Beetle, I'm not sure what HIMS could have done to get their act 
together. In fact, I think making the Smart Beetle use the Braille Sense 
protocol is a pretty good idea.


On 08/14/2015 04:58 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi Andrew,

Hmm!  Wish S&S had their act together before my demo.  I'd thought,
maybe, the use of the Braille Sense, in the manual was perhaps an
oversight in not correcting stuff ... as this happens ... but it wasn't,
I gather.

The other reason that would make me really want this unit is if you
could answer "Yes" definitely to one further point.

You may not have done this, but you can use the clipboard setting to
temporarily disable the keyboard so that you can write something in your
own clipboard, so to speak.  In this case, you write quite a bit of
text, say, 300 words, then try sending to your iPhone.

You get into the clipboard with backspace+enter+C and then send by
pressing "Enter".

In previous Sense products, I've found this to be too slow for me and
even unreliable, possibly running out of memory ...

I'd love to be able to use this feature, but quickly and not feel I
wanted to drink a cuppa whilst waiting.  I found it translated the text
only as quickly as it did ifyou were brailling directly and were having
to wait for it to be translated into the phone, and that wasn't what I
wanted!

Can you try this out, please, and let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Thanks also for the instructions you gave below, which I'll keep for
further reference.

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Hi Carol,

Yes, at present you have to pair Smart Beetle as BrailleSense because
Apple has not as yet incorporated the Smart Beetle driver into its
operating systems.  However, HIMS provide instructions on how to make
Smart Beetle appear as BrailleSense.  Once i took the initial steps to
accomplish this on Smart Beetle itself, the pairing went smoothly.

Below I'm pasting the instructions as I received them from HIMS.  They
are also included with the product on a separate Braille sheet.
"Smart Beetle with Apple products.
Note, the below refers to using Smart Beetle with products running
Apple's iOS, including iPhone, iPad, and iPod as well as mac computers.
At the time of this writing, Apple has not implemented a Smart Beetle
specific driver into iOS or the Mac OS. Thus, it has become necessary
for us to do a work around in order that you may use your Smart Beetle
with i-devices and Mac computers.
In short, this work-around allows the Smart Beetle to emulate a Braille
Sense notetaker, which is supported in Apple's operating systems. You
can turn this emulation on and off simply by changing the Bluetooth name
for the Bluetooth Serial port on the Smart Beetle.
note: this work-around requires you to use the Smart Beetle via
Bluetooth when using a Mac computer.

To change the Bluetooth name, please do the following:
1) Press Power-F1, choose BRL and press "Enter". The unit displays
"pairing BRL".
2) Press the Power button to open the menu, and Press the shortcut "I"
to open "Information".
3) From the "Information" list, press (F2-F3-Dot1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8).
4) Return to "Information", and confirm the BRL Bluetooth name.
Each time you follow these steps, the Bluetooth name is toggled between
"SmartBeetle" and "BrailleSense", thus, you can use Smart Beetle in it's
normal configuration for other screen readers. In addition, when Apple
introduces Smart gheetle support, you will be able to change the
Bluetooth name back to Smart Beetle and use it properly from that time."

I was nervous at first but I had downloaded the user guide for Smart
Beetle from HIMS website and since the description of the unit was very
good, I was able to learn a lot about it before I actually put my hands
on it.

Good luck and ask anything if you wish and I will do my best to answer.

Andrew

On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:40, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
 wrote:

Andrew,

How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings are
you using?

I saw one, as demo, but we couldn't pair it at the time and it seemed
to be because you had to pair it as Braille Sense, or something.

Please tell me what you did etc?  I did like the look and feel of it
very much and wanted one but ...

Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
To: "VIPhone" 
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Subject: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Listers,

It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display
produced by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound
in the UK, I feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are
nice.  I've already paired it with my iphone.  And by 

RE: Apple Tv

[Larry Lumpkin]

The apple tv doesn’t require a monthly subscription unless you subscribe 
through it to a service like net flics which I understand works very well.  The 
Tv was a hundred dollars but I think has dropped in price since I bought one.

 

 

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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Apple Tv

 

Thanks do you have any idea when he will be releasing the book? I have Comcast 
now but I’m trying to find something that is accessible and less expensive.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Tv

 

The apple tv is wonderfully accessible and I love it.  I’ve ripped my entire 
thousand plus cd collection to itunes and share with the apple tv very 
successfully.  Everything on it is accessible.  I’m sure applevis has some 
podcasts on it and there have been several podcasts done on accessible world.  
Jonathan Mosen is about to release a book about apple tv.

 

 

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Subject: Apple Tv

 

I know this list is all about the iPhone but I was wondering if anyone can tell 
me where to go to find out more about apple tv? I have been looking into it and 
roku and trying to find something accessible

Thanks

Shawnese Laury-Johnson, MA, CRC, LLPC

Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor

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Re: Apple Tv

[Christopher Chaltain]

This list is about all iDevices and not just the iPhone. Raul and/or 
Cara have stated in the past that the Apple TV is on topic for this list.


On 08/14/2015 07:49 PM, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) wrote:

I know this list is all about the iPhone but I was wondering if anyone
can tell me where to go to find out more about apple tv? I have been
looking into it and roku and trying to find something accessible

Thanks

Shawnese Laury-Johnson, MA, CRC, LLPC

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RE: Apple Tv

[Larry Lumpkin]

Early fall I think

 

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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:24 PM
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Thanks do you have any idea when he will be releasing the book? I have Comcast 
now but I’m trying to find something that is accessible and less expensive.

 

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Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Tv

 

The apple tv is wonderfully accessible and I love it.  I’ve ripped my entire 
thousand plus cd collection to itunes and share with the apple tv very 
successfully.  Everything on it is accessible.  I’m sure applevis has some 
podcasts on it and there have been several podcasts done on accessible world.  
Jonathan Mosen is about to release a book about apple tv.

 

 

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Subject: Apple Tv

 

I know this list is all about the iPhone but I was wondering if anyone can tell 
me where to go to find out more about apple tv? I have been looking into it and 
roku and trying to find something accessible

Thanks

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Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor

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Detroit, MI 48202

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RE: Apple Tv

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

Thanks do you have any idea when he will be releasing the book? I have Comcast 
now but I’m trying to find something that is accessible and less expensive.

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The apple tv is wonderfully accessible and I love it.  I’ve ripped my entire 
thousand plus cd collection to itunes and share with the apple tv very 
successfully.  Everything on it is accessible.  I’m sure applevis has some 
podcasts on it and there have been several podcasts done on accessible world.  
Jonathan Mosen is about to release a book about apple tv.


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Subject: Apple Tv

I know this list is all about the iPhone but I was wondering if anyone can tell 
me where to go to find out more about apple tv? I have been looking into it and 
roku and trying to find something accessible
Thanks
Shawnese Laury-Johnson, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
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Re: What is GPRS

[Aman Singer]

Hi,
GPRS is a slower, I think it would only qualify as 2G, data service.
It stands for general packet radio service and the Wikipedia page
gives a good overview
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service
I believe, though this is relying on very old memories, that the
maximum speed is something like 300 kilobits/second. I wouldn't try to
watch youtube with it. It may get your email, though slowly.
Aman

On 8/14/15, Agent086b  wrote:
> Hi all,
> my provider is upgrading our service out here to 4G. At times when I look at
> the signal strength my provider’s name then next instead of 3G or 4G I hear
> GPRS. Can anybody explain the GPRS?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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Re: Upgrading iOS

[Robert Doc Wright]

On 8/14/2015 9:09 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

This time iTunes did not offer the update info as much as it did in the past.  
I did my phone on iTunes since it was already connected, I did the iPad mini, 
original over the air and it actually went faster, a first.


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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 8:16 PM
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One last thing I forgot. You got along without iOS 8, why not wait a month or 5 
weeks and then upgrade to iOS 9, this way you do just one upgrade and you are 
up to the newest OS.


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Hi Jo,

When you umpgrade, you won't lose your settings and passwords. The only time 
you'll do that is if you have to restore your phone. I suggest upgrading over 
the air for this reason.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


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Hi, I've stayed put on iOS 7 but have encountered an app that just might
persuade me to go up to iOS 8.4 a few of them actually. I'd like to keep my
folders in tact. How can I go about preserving my current settings and
passwords? Thanks in advance for your help.

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make a note that if you think you will want to down grade you will have 
to backup your device to iTunes on your computer.  It does not register 
the iCloud backup if you wish to restore.


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RE: Apple Tv

[Larry Lumpkin]

The apple tv is wonderfully accessible and I love it.  I’ve ripped my entire 
thousand plus cd collection to itunes and share with the apple tv very 
successfully.  Everything on it is accessible.  I’m sure applevis has some 
podcasts on it and there have been several podcasts done on accessible world.  
Jonathan Mosen is about to release a book about apple tv.

 

 

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Subject: Apple Tv

 

I know this list is all about the iPhone but I was wondering if anyone can tell 
me where to go to find out more about apple tv? I have been looking into it and 
roku and trying to find something accessible

Thanks

Shawnese Laury-Johnson, MA, CRC, LLPC

Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor

BSBP Detroit office

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Detroit, MI 48202

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Re: Some good news for Amazon echo owners who use the iPhone app

[Mary Otten]

Well, Kevin, if this is attributable to your good work, more power to you and 
please keep it up! If they could get the to do and shopping list to be usable, 
that is, if you could actually delete something, it would be great. Here's 
hoping for more advances.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
> 
> Glad to hear. I’ve been pushing an engineer friend at Amazon to get word to 
> the Echo team on accessibility. Looks like the message is getting through.
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who have the Amazon echo and use the iPhone app, or try to, 
>> you will perhaps be glad to know that Amazon has just started making 
>> available what it calls "skills". These are like apps for your echo, which 
>> are developed by third parties, and presumably also by Amazon developers, 
>> although the first ones they have released are from third-party developers. 
>> And, this part of the Amazon app, where you going to see what skills are 
>> available and enable them is actually, shock, accessible. Maybe the first 
>> skills aren't anything exciting, but, hopefully this means that when future 
>> ones come out they will also be. The math puzzles app is actually kind of 
>> fun.
>> Mary
>> 
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What is GPRS

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
my provider is upgrading our service out here to 4G. At times when I look at 
the signal strength my provider’s name then next instead of 3G or 4G I hear 
GPRS. Can anybody explain the GPRS?
Thanks for any advice.
Max.

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RE: Contact Info for Moderators

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Thanks, Richard.  I'll pass it on to my sister, Deidre, who still can't post
to the list.

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Hi Dulce,

As far as I know, at this point, Cara Quinn is the only moderator.
Raul has excused himself from doing anything due to his not having time.
Cara Quinn ' Emails: caraqu...@caraquinn.com

Richard


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Re: Some good news for Amazon echo owners who use the iPhone app

[Kevin Shaw]

Glad to hear. I’ve been pushing an engineer friend at Amazon to get word to the 
Echo team on accessibility. Looks like the message is getting through.
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For those of you who have the Amazon echo and use the iPhone app, or try to, 
> you will perhaps be glad to know that Amazon has just started making 
> available what it calls "skills". These are like apps for your echo, which 
> are developed by third parties, and presumably also by Amazon developers, 
> although the first ones they have released are from third-party developers. 
> And, this part of the Amazon app, where you going to see what skills are 
> available and enable them is actually, shock, accessible. Maybe the first 
> skills aren't anything exciting, but, hopefully this means that when future 
> ones come out they will also be. The math puzzles app is actually kind of fun.
> Mary
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Re: RSS Suggestion

[cwc]

I use an ap called Newsify. *It updates articles often and the interface is 
easy to use*

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 4:19:47 PM UTC-4, Geoff wrote:
>
> For me, it became important a long time ago to find a combination of 
> products that would work on iOS and either the Mac or Windows (preferably 
> both) to make my RSS reading seamless and efficient. 
>
> Unfortunately, I have not found that/those products quite yet. However, I 
> am currently using Lire for iOS and ReadKit for the Mac to make RSS reading 
> at least viable and efficient on iOS and Mac OS X while relying on the 
> Feedly service. This seems to be rather an ongoing search for solutions 
> where the  answers change at least every year if not more often for me. I 
> still don't have a Windows solution that works well in this scenario. So I 
> have abandoned Windows for RSS at this point. I am always alert to new 
> possibilities as long as the RSS protocol remains viable. 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Emilio Hernandez  > wrote: 
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> As the subject line suggests, I am in need of a new RSS Reader. I have 
> previously been using News Rack because of its simplicity, but recently the 
> app does not let me add a new RSS feed. Upon my attempt to do so, the app 
> crashes. 
> Thus, from what I have seen so far, it seems as though some people like 
> using Lire, and others enjoy using Feeddler. 
> Therefore, What is a great RSS reader that will allow me to import feeds, 
> share with social networking sites, and give me the overall functionality 
> of News rack, for those who are familiar with this app? 
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide. 
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RE: Contact Info for Moderators

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Hi Dulce,

As far as I know, at this point, Cara Quinn is the only moderator.
Raul has excused himself from doing anything due to his not having time.
Cara Quinn ' Emails: caraqu...@caraquinn.com

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Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Alan Lemly]

The app is a bit spotty. After you execute the photo capture button to snap the 
picture, you must execute the done button in the bottom right hand corner. This 
should take you to the screen where the reading is done but when I tried it a 
few minutes ago, this screen had the label speaking in the top Center of the 
screen but nothing was being spoken. Like I said, spotty performance. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
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> Hi,
> It launches just fine on my iPhone 6, and I can get it to snap pictures of 
> pages, but I can't get it to read page contents.  How do you do that?
>  
> Tom
>  
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> 
> I just installed it, and it opened first time on  my iphone 6+.
> Cheers
> Alex
> 
>> On 14/08/2015 19:38, Pinky wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I tried 
>> numerous times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ed
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Apple Tv

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

I know this list is all about the iPhone but I was wondering if anyone can tell 
me where to go to find out more about apple tv? I have been looking into it and 
roku and trying to find something accessible
Thanks
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Trivia crack

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If I were anybody who plays the game of Trivia Crack I would not updated, I did 
because I saw someone saying that they were having issues so I wanted to see if 
I did and I do. Basically, The game has become unplayable. It crashes, and it's 
very hard to find the people that you were playing with. It is just unplayable. 
At least on my iPhone 5S with I don't remember what update I think it's 8.4 or 
something

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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Jim Portillo]

Absolutely! If I can do monthly payments, I am in!

Sent from my iPhone 6!

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> wow, that's pretty good, especially the monthly payments options. I'll have 
> to check this out.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>> 
>> 20 cell unit is $2395, 40 cell unit is $3995.
>> PayPal with 6 months interest free financing for qualified buyers is also 
>> available.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
>> 
>> Wow, that's Pretty cool, but likely expensive so only rehab agencies can 
>> really afford it lol.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Helli Jim and all,
>>> Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
>>> main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
>>> just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
>>> stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include 
>>> word processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file 
>>> manager, settings, and help.
>>> The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
>>> 2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
>>> time yearly.
>>> Hth,
>>> Amy Ruell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Jim Portillo
>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
>>> 
>>> Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
>>> differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!
>>> 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
 £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
 
 Andrew
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Wow, how much does this display cost? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced 
>> by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I 
>> feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've 
>> already paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display 
>> can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It 
>> also has a USB connection.
>> 
>> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
>> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
>> Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
>> quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
>> 
>> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
>> order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  
>> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
>> or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
>> i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
>> keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
>> open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message 
>> using it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a 
>> way of deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering 
>> whether there may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille 
>> display could imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you  
>> can do with your refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?
>> 
>> Many thanks for any suggestions
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Devin Prater]

wow, that's pretty good, especially the monthly payments options. I'll have to 
check this out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
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> 20 cell unit is $2395, 40 cell unit is $3995.
> PayPal with 6 months interest free financing for qualified buyers is also 
> available.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Devin Prater
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
> 
> Wow, that's Pretty cool, but likely expensive so only rehab agencies can 
> really afford it lol.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>> 
>> Helli Jim and all,
>> Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
>> main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
>> just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
>> stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include 
>> word processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file 
>> manager, settings, and help.
>> The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
>> 2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
>> time yearly.
>> Hth,
>> Amy Ruell
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jim Portillo
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
>> 
>> Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
>> differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
>>> £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
 Wow, how much does this display cost? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced 
> by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I 
> feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already 
> paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can 
> remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also 
> has a USB connection.
> 
> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
> Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
> quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
> 
> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
> order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  
> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
> or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
> i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
> keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
> open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message using 
> it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of 
> deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there 
> may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille display could 
> imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you  can do with 
> your refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?
> 
> Many thanks for any suggestions
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Alex Stone]

Tom, don't ask me, it seems we're both in the same boat. Having said 
that, I believe there's an applevis podcast about the app, but I haven't 
got round to listening to it yet.

Cheers
Alex

On 15/08/2015 00:43, Tom Lange wrote:

Hi,
It launches just fine on my iPhone 6, and I can get it to snap 
pictures of pages, but I can't get it to read page contents.  How do 
you do that?

Tom

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I just installed it, and it opened first time on  my iphone 6+.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 19:38, Pinky wrote:


Hi

Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I
tried numerous times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.

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Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
It launches just fine on my iPhone 6, and I can get it to snap pictures of 
pages, but I can't get it to read page contents.  How do you do that?

Tom

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  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?


  I just installed it, and it opened first time on  my iphone 6+.
  Cheers
  Alex


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Hi 

Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I tried 
numerous times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.



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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Brent Harding]

It's probably about the same as it would be with good signal. Phone calls 
pretty much are what they are unless you had another Sprint person using it, 
and then it might go HD. I discovered they made the error messages sound 
really good if you dial the wrong thing, but that's about the only higher 
quality thing I heard.


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From: "Terry-Ann Saurmann" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call
indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry

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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
but a good thing.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of those 
buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good everywhere, but 
the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile have enabled this. I 
think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I think the minutes are 
unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers anything but unlimited on calls 
these days.


- Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up 
for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the 
US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality 
was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Terry-Ann Saurmann]

Unfortunately, I don't notice any difference in the quality of a call 
indoors yet via Sprint .  Terry


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From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I
know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything
but a good thing.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of those 
buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good everywhere, but 
the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile have enabled this. I 
think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I think the minutes are 
unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers anything but unlimited on calls 
these days.


- Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up 
for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the 
US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality 
was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Terry-Ann Saurmann]

It is already available with Sprint here in the US.  Terry

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From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It does. It will probably come down in one of those carrier updates you get
when you hit settings and about.

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From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It's available on my 6+ here in the UK, so I suspect it's probably
already available on 6's and 6+'s already. Although having said that it
probably depends whether your cell provider makes it available.
Cheers
Alex
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:45, Brett C. wrote:
It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up 
for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the 
US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality 
was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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RE: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Cris Ali]

It seems this app only works on newer iPhones.  It never worked on my 4S.  I 
imagine it needs more memory and processing power than the 4S can offer.

 

Regards,

 

Cris

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Stone
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I just installed it, and it opened first time on  my iphone 6+.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 19:38, Pinky wrote:

Hi 

Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I tried numerous 
times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.

 

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Re: Removing People From App Switcher

[Alex Stone]

Thanks for that, I'm not saying I'll do it, but it's interesting to know 
about.

Cheers
Alex

On 15/08/2015 00:17, curmudgeon wrote:

hello
go to setting
flick down to email calendar
and open it, then flick down to contacts,the next item down is a check box to 
contacts in apps uncheck it and
u b done close
good luck
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listed. How do I get rid of these? It's random contacts too, not even part
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Amy Ruell]

The information is at http://shop.baumusa.com/ 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
> 
> I went on the BAUM website but see nothing about the Paypal thing.  I'm very 
> interested.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6!
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>> 
>> 20 cell unit is $2395, 40 cell unit is $3995.
>> PayPal with 6 months interest free financing for qualified buyers is also 
>> available.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
>> 
>> Wow, that's Pretty cool, but likely expensive so only rehab agencies can 
>> really afford it lol.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Helli Jim and all,
>>> Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
>>> main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
>>> just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
>>> stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include 
>>> word processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file 
>>> manager, settings, and help.
>>> The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
>>> 2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
>>> time yearly.
>>> Hth,
>>> Amy Ruell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Jim Portillo
>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
>>> 
>>> Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
>>> differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!
>>> 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
 £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
 
 Andrew
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Wow, how much does this display cost? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced 
>> by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I 
>> feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've 
>> already paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display 
>> can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It 
>> also has a USB connection.
>> 
>> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
>> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
>> Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
>> quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
>> 
>> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
>> order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  
>> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
>> or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
>> i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
>> keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
>> open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message 
>> using it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a 
>> way of deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering 
>> whether there may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille 
>> display could imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you  
>> can do with your refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?
>> 
>> Many thanks for any suggestions
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Removing People From App Switcher

[curmudgeon]

hello 
go to setting
flick down to email calendar 
and open it, then flick down to contacts,the next item down is a check box to 
contacts in apps uncheck it and 
u b done close 
good luck
the curmudgeon

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Re: Removing People From App Switcher

[Alex Stone]

Say what?
Alex

On 15/08/2015 00:14, curmudgeon wrote:

hello

iiff

On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Joe  wrote:

Hi, I wound up upgrading my iPhone from iOS 7 to iOS 8. I took Jen's
suggestion and performed it over-the-air. Everything went well, apps and
things preserved.

In the app switcher, however, there are now several people, or contacts,
listed. How do I get rid of these? It's random contacts too, not even part
of my favorites. I'd like my app switcher to only show active apps.

Thanks for your help!

Joe

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Re: Removing People From App Switcher

[curmudgeon]

hello 

iiff

On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Joe  wrote:

Hi, I wound up upgrading my iPhone from iOS 7 to iOS 8. I took Jen's
suggestion and performed it over-the-air. Everything went well, apps and
things preserved.

In the app switcher, however, there are now several people, or contacts,
listed. How do I get rid of these? It's random contacts too, not even part
of my favorites. I'd like my app switcher to only show active apps.

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Brent Harding]

It does. It will probably come down in one of those carrier updates you get 
when you hit settings and about.


- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It's available on my 6+ here in the UK, so I suspect it's probably
already available on 6's and 6+'s already. Although having said that it
probably depends whether your cell provider makes it available.
Cheers
Alex
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:45, Brett C. wrote:
It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up 
for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the 
US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality 
was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Alex Stone]

It's available on my 6+ here in the UK, so I suspect it's probably 
already available on 6's and 6+'s already. Although having said that it 
probably depends whether your cell provider makes it available.

Cheers
Alex
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:45, Brett C. wrote:

It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up for 
some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.

Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in certain
locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the US
is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality was
when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Alex Stone]

here in the UK from my Cell provider for about two months, as far as I 
know, I haven't used it yet, but it seems to me, it can't be anything 
but a good thing.

Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 23:47, Brent Harding wrote:
The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of 
those buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good 
everywhere, but the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile 
have enabled this. I think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I 
think the minutes are unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers 
anything but unlimited on calls these days.


- Original Message - From: "Brett C." 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing 
up for some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in 
certain

locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in 
the US

is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell 
quality was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Brent Harding]

The Sprint version works pretty good most of the time. I'm in one of those 
buildings where the regular cell signal just isn't so good everywhere, but 
the wifi is much better. I'm glad Sprint and TMobile have enabled this. I 
think Verizon and AT&T are working on it yet. I think the minutes are 
unlimited, but I don't think Sprint offers anything but unlimited on calls 
these days.


- Original Message - 
From: "Brett C." 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature


It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up for 
some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.


Brett C.


On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in certain
locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the US
is offering this ability other than Sprint?

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality 
was

when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Re: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Brett C.]

It isn't available until the release of iOS 9 for AT&T. It is showing up for 
some, not all, in the current beta of iOs 9.

Brett C.

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
> Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in certain
> locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
> excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.  
> 
> I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.  
> 
> Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the US
> is offering this ability other than Sprint?  
> 
> It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality was
> when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
> their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).
> 
> Mark
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RE: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Neal Ewers]

Hi, Check the following site. I don't know when this was written.

http://www.techlicious.com/blog/iphone-6-wifi-calling-carrier-plans-actiontec-underwritten-story/
 
Neal


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint Wireless 
friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in certain locations 
from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have excellent call 
quality from anywhere on their property.  

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.  

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the US is 
offering this ability other than Sprint?  

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality was 
when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and their 
iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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RE: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[Neal Ewers]

Mark, I don't know the answer but I do know that not all companies are 
supporting this yet. I would assume that if it doesn't show up, it is likely 
not there, but calling the provider would be a way to find out.

Neal


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint Wireless 
friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in certain locations 
from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have excellent call 
quality from anywhere on their property.  

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.  

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the US is 
offering this ability other than Sprint?  

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality was 
when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and their 
iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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A Question Regarding The WiFi Calling Feature

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Earlier today, I enabled the WiFi calling option for two of my Sprint
Wireless friends who were experiencing poor cell signal quality in certain
locations from within their homes, such as the garage.  Now, they have
excellent call quality from anywhere on their property.  

I can't seem to find this feature on my A T & T Wireless phone.  

Does anyone know if A T & T or any other major wireless provider in the US
is offering this ability other than Sprint?  

It's funny, the only place my two friends couldn't get good cell quality was
when they were at home.  Now they are deliriously happy with both me and
their iPhones 6 Pluses (smile).

Mark

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Blindfold Simon, a new emory game

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Passing this along as there was some discussion about a game like this on this 
list a while back.

It's VO accessible and based on the My Simon memory game. It's a free app with 
in app purchases if one wants to upgrade for more playing levels, 2 person 
playability (sharing the same Phone), or faster coin accumulation; each can be 
purchased separately, or the bundle for $8.99. It's not necessary to buy the 
upgrade if you're OK with watching ads to accumulate enough points to unlock 
the features.

It's called Blindfold Simon by Kid-Friendly Software.

I'm enjoying this. Not affiliated in any way with the developer, but really 
enjoying this game.

Keith

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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Jim Portillo]

I went on the BAUM website but see nothing about the Paypal thing.  I'm very 
interested.


Sent from my iPhone 6!

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> 20 cell unit is $2395, 40 cell unit is $3995.
> PayPal with 6 months interest free financing for qualified buyers is also 
> available.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
> 
> Wow, that's Pretty cool, but likely expensive so only rehab agencies can 
> really afford it lol.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
>> 
>> Helli Jim and all,
>> Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
>> main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
>> just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
>> stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include 
>> word processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file 
>> manager, settings, and help.
>> The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
>> 2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
>> time yearly.
>> Hth,
>> Amy Ruell
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jim Portillo
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
>> 
>> Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
>> differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
>>> £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
 Wow, how much does this display cost? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced 
> by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I 
> feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already 
> paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can 
> remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also 
> has a USB connection.
> 
> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
> Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
> quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
> 
> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
> order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  
> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
> or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
> i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
> keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
> open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message using 
> it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of 
> deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there 
> may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille display could 
> imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you  can do with 
> your refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?
> 
> Many thanks for any suggestions
> 
> Andrew
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RE: Removing People From App Switcher

[Larry Lumpkin]

You can remove categories such as contacts, phone numbers, etc. from the people 
pane so you won't accidentally hit one by mistake but the people pane stays as 
far as I know.  I've not been able to get rid of it.


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Subject: Removing People From App Switcher

Hi, I wound up upgrading my iPhone from iOS 7 to iOS 8. I took Jen's suggestion 
and performed it over-the-air. Everything went well, apps and things preserved.

In the app switcher, however, there are now several people, or contacts, 
listed. How do I get rid of these? It's random contacts too, not even part of 
my favorites. I'd like my app switcher to only show active apps.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi Andrew,

Hmm!  Wish S&S had their act together before my demo.  I'd thought, maybe, 
the use of the Braille Sense, in the manual was perhaps an oversight in not 
correcting stuff ... as this happens ... but it wasn't, I gather.


The other reason that would make me really want this unit is if you could 
answer "Yes" definitely to one further point.


You may not have done this, but you can use the clipboard setting to 
temporarily disable the keyboard so that you can write something in your own 
clipboard, so to speak.  In this case, you write quite a bit of text, say, 
300 words, then try sending to your iPhone.


You get into the clipboard with backspace+enter+C and then send by pressing 
"Enter".


In previous Sense products, I've found this to be too slow for me and even 
unreliable, possibly running out of memory ...


I'd love to be able to use this feature, but quickly and not feel I wanted 
to drink a cuppa whilst waiting.  I found it translated the text only as 
quickly as it did ifyou were brailling directly and were having to wait for 
it to be translated into the phone, and that wasn't what I wanted!


Can you try this out, please, and let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Thanks also for the instructions you gave below, which I'll keep for further 
reference.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Lamanche" 

To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Hi Carol,

Yes, at present you have to pair Smart Beetle as BrailleSense because Apple 
has not as yet incorporated the Smart Beetle driver into its operating 
systems.  However, HIMS provide instructions on how to make Smart Beetle 
appear as BrailleSense.  Once i took the initial steps to accomplish this on 
Smart Beetle itself, the pairing went smoothly.


Below I'm pasting the instructions as I received them from HIMS.  They are 
also included with the product on a separate Braille sheet.

"Smart Beetle with Apple products.
Note, the below refers to using Smart Beetle with products running Apple's 
iOS, including iPhone, iPad, and iPod as well as mac computers.
At the time of this writing, Apple has not implemented a Smart Beetle 
specific driver into iOS or the Mac OS. Thus, it has become necessary for us 
to do a work around in order that you may use your Smart Beetle with 
i-devices and Mac computers.
In short, this work-around allows the Smart Beetle to emulate a Braille 
Sense notetaker, which is supported in Apple's operating systems. You can 
turn this emulation on and off simply by changing the Bluetooth name for the 
Bluetooth Serial port on the Smart Beetle.
note: this work-around requires you to use the Smart Beetle via Bluetooth 
when using a Mac computer.


To change the Bluetooth name, please do the following:
1) Press Power-F1, choose BRL and press "Enter". The unit displays "pairing 
BRL".
2) Press the Power button to open the menu, and Press the shortcut "I" to 
open "Information".

3) From the "Information" list, press (F2-F3-Dot1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8).
4) Return to "Information", and confirm the BRL Bluetooth name.
Each time you follow these steps, the Bluetooth name is toggled between 
"SmartBeetle" and "BrailleSense", thus, you can use Smart Beetle in it's 
normal configuration for other screen readers. In addition, when Apple 
introduces Smart gheetle support, you will be able to change the Bluetooth 
name back to Smart Beetle and use it properly from that time."


I was nervous at first but I had downloaded the user guide for Smart Beetle 
from HIMS website and since the description of the unit was very good, I was 
able to learn a lot about it before I actually put my hands on it.


Good luck and ask anything if you wish and I will do my best to answer.

Andrew
On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:40, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Andrew,

How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings are you 
using?


I saw one, as demo, but we couldn't pair it at the time and it seemed to 
be because you had to pair it as Braille Sense, or something.


Please tell me what you did etc?  I did like the look and feel of it very 
much and wanted one but ...


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
To: "VIPhone" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:47 PM
Subject: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Listers,

It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already 
paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can 
remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has 
a USB connection.


I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The plea

Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Hi Andrew,

Hmm!  Wish S&S had their act together before my demo.  I'd thought, maybe, 
the use of the Braille Sense, in the manual was perhaps an oversight in not 
correcting stuff ... as this happens ... but it wasn't, I gather.


The other reason that would make me really want this unit is if you could 
answer "Yes" definitely to one further point.


You may not have done this, but you can use the clipboard setting to 
temporarily disable the keyboard so that you can write something in your own 
clipboard, so to speak.  In this case, you write quite a bit of text, say, 
300 words, then try sending to your iPhone.


You get into the clipboard with backspace+enter+C and then send by pressing 
"Enter".


In previous Sense products, I've found this to be too slow for me and even 
unreliable, possibly running out of memory ...


I'd love to be able to use this feature, but quickly and not feel I wanted 
to drink a cuppa whilst waiting.  I found it translated the text only as 
quickly as it did ifyou were brailling directly and were having to wait for 
it to be translated into the phone, and that wasn't what I wanted!


Can you try this out, please, and let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Thanks also for the instructions you gave below, which I'll keep for further 
reference.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Lamanche" 

To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Hi Carol,

Yes, at present you have to pair Smart Beetle as BrailleSense because Apple 
has not as yet incorporated the Smart Beetle driver into its operating 
systems.  However, HIMS provide instructions on how to make Smart Beetle 
appear as BrailleSense.  Once i took the initial steps to accomplish this on 
Smart Beetle itself, the pairing went smoothly.


Below I'm pasting the instructions as I received them from HIMS.  They are 
also included with the product on a separate Braille sheet.

"Smart Beetle with Apple products.
Note, the below refers to using Smart Beetle with products running Apple's 
iOS, including iPhone, iPad, and iPod as well as mac computers.
At the time of this writing, Apple has not implemented a Smart Beetle 
specific driver into iOS or the Mac OS. Thus, it has become necessary for us 
to do a work around in order that you may use your Smart Beetle with 
i-devices and Mac computers.
In short, this work-around allows the Smart Beetle to emulate a Braille 
Sense notetaker, which is supported in Apple's operating systems. You can 
turn this emulation on and off simply by changing the Bluetooth name for the 
Bluetooth Serial port on the Smart Beetle.
note: this work-around requires you to use the Smart Beetle via Bluetooth 
when using a Mac computer.


To change the Bluetooth name, please do the following:
1) Press Power-F1, choose BRL and press "Enter". The unit displays "pairing 
BRL".
2) Press the Power button to open the menu, and Press the shortcut "I" to 
open "Information".

3) From the "Information" list, press (F2-F3-Dot1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8).
4) Return to "Information", and confirm the BRL Bluetooth name.
Each time you follow these steps, the Bluetooth name is toggled between 
"SmartBeetle" and "BrailleSense", thus, you can use Smart Beetle in it's 
normal configuration for other screen readers. In addition, when Apple 
introduces Smart gheetle support, you will be able to change the Bluetooth 
name back to Smart Beetle and use it properly from that time."


I was nervous at first but I had downloaded the user guide for Smart Beetle 
from HIMS website and since the description of the unit was very good, I was 
able to learn a lot about it before I actually put my hands on it.


Good luck and ask anything if you wish and I will do my best to answer.

Andrew
On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:40, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Andrew,

How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings are you 
using?


I saw one, as demo, but we couldn't pair it at the time and it seemed to 
be because you had to pair it as Braille Sense, or something.


Please tell me what you did etc?  I did like the look and feel of it very 
much and wanted one but ...


Carol P

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
To: "VIPhone" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:47 PM
Subject: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Listers,

It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already 
paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can 
remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has 
a USB connection.


I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The plea

RE: RSS Suggestion

[Cristóbal]

I use Feeddler Pro in conjunction with The Old Reader. Meets all my RSS needs. 
I have The Old Reader's "All" page as my home page. Cant' speak as to 
accessibility with Macs, but It works well with Jaws on a Windows based OS and 
syncs nicely through Feeddler and iOS.

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For me, it became important a long time ago to find a combination of products 
that would work on iOS and either the Mac or Windows (preferably both) to make 
my RSS reading seamless and efficient.

Unfortunately, I have not found that/those products quite yet. However, I am 
currently using Lire for iOS and ReadKit for the Mac to make RSS reading at 
least viable and efficient on iOS and Mac OS X while relying on the Feedly 
service. This seems to be rather an ongoing search for solutions where the  
answers change at least every year if not more often for me. I still don't have 
a Windows solution that works well in this scenario. So I have abandoned 
Windows for RSS at this point. I am always alert to new possibilities as long 
as the RSS protocol remains viable.





On Aug 14, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Emilio Hernandez  
wrote:

Hello everyone,

As the subject line suggests, I am in need of a new RSS Reader. I have 
previously been using News Rack because of its simplicity, but recently the app 
does not let me add a new RSS feed. Upon my attempt to do so, the app crashes.
Thus, from what I have seen so far, it seems as though some people like using 
Lire, and others enjoy using Feeddler.
Therefore, What is a great RSS reader that will allow me to import feeds, share 
with social networking sites, and give me the overall functionality of News 
rack, for those who are familiar with this app?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Removing People From App Switcher

[Joe]

Hi, I wound up upgrading my iPhone from iOS 7 to iOS 8. I took Jen's
suggestion and performed it over-the-air. Everything went well, apps and
things preserved.

In the app switcher, however, there are now several people, or contacts,
listed. How do I get rid of these? It's random contacts too, not even part
of my favorites. I'd like my app switcher to only show active apps.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Alex Stone]

I just installed it, and it opened first time on  my iphone 6+.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/08/2015 19:38, Pinky wrote:


Hi

Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I tried 
numerous times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.


Ed

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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I would say that 20 cells is better than 14, but maybe I am wrong, maybe 14 
cells are enough? I am in doubt.

I have used 8 dots braille for many years now, but you can write the same in 6 
dots braille maybe sometimes with 2 commands. As I see it the difference on 6 
dots and 8 dots (computerbraille) is not so big. It could be that we will se 
more 6 dots displays and other devices in the future.

Best regards Annie.
> Den 14/08/2015 kl. 10.16 skrev Anne Günther :
> 
> Hi Jim
> Let me say that I own neither of the two, and have only read about both. So 
> far, I can think of two major differences.
> 1.: The smart beetle has six dot buttons that can be used for writing. The 
> vario ultra has eight. Soo if you want to regularly write computer braille, 
> the vario might be the better choice for you.
> w2.: The beetle can also be paired as a keyboard. Although I have to admit I 
> don't really understand what's so special about that, since you can use 
> commands for controlling your iphone with other brailledisplays as well.
> Something else I just remembered: From waht I read, it's pretty easy to 
> change languages and braille tables with the smart beetle. So if you read 
> more than one language you might like that.
> Regards Guenni
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Re: RSS Suggestion

[gs]

For me, it became important a long time ago to find a combination of products 
that would work on iOS and either the Mac or Windows (preferably both) to make 
my RSS reading seamless and efficient.

Unfortunately, I have not found that/those products quite yet. However, I am 
currently using Lire for iOS and ReadKit for the Mac to make RSS reading at 
least viable and efficient on iOS and Mac OS X while relying on the Feedly 
service. This seems to be rather an ongoing search for solutions where the  
answers change at least every year if not more often for me. I still don't have 
a Windows solution that works well in this scenario. So I have abandoned 
Windows for RSS at this point. I am always alert to new possibilities as long 
as the RSS protocol remains viable.





On Aug 14, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Emilio Hernandez  
wrote:

Hello everyone,

As the subject line suggests, I am in need of a new RSS Reader. I have 
previously been using News Rack because of its simplicity, but recently the app 
does not let me add a new RSS feed. Upon my attempt to do so, the app crashes.
Thus, from what I have seen so far, it seems as though some people like using 
Lire, and others enjoy using Feeddler.
Therefore, What is a great RSS reader that will allow me to import feeds, share 
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rack, for those who are familiar with this app?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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RSS Suggestion

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

As the subject line suggests, I am in need of a new RSS Reader. I have 
previously been using News Rack because of its simplicity, but recently the app 
does not let me add a new RSS feed. Upon my attempt to do so, the app crashes.
Thus, from what I have seen so far, it seems as though some people like using 
Lire, and others enjoy using Feeddler.
Therefore, What is a great RSS reader that will allow me to import feeds, share 
with social networking sites, and give me the overall functionality of News 
rack, for those who are familiar with this app?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Contact Info for Moderators

[dulce muccio weisenborn]

Could the moderators please post their contact information to the list? 

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RE: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Alan Lemly]

Ed,

 

The new Voice update version 3.3 which I downloaded yesterday is working
fine on my iPhone 6 running iOS 8.3.

 

I just used it to scan a bank privacy notification document and it did a
very good job. It notifies you when it sees all four corners of the document
but I'll caution that it helps if there is good contrast between what the
document rests on and the document itself. When I tried putting my white
document on my bathroom counter where the light is good but the counter is
cream-colored, I got no notification about it detecting the four corners.
However, when I placed it on a brown table, I was notified quickly.

 

I don't know why you're experiencing problems with the app but if they
persist after restarting your device, you might try removing the app and
reinstalling it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Subject: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

 

Hi 

Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I tried
numerous times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.

 

Ed

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Re: Workflow

[Chuck Dean]

 First double tap the edit button. Now select the workflow you want to delete, 
and go to the upper right hand corner and hit delete. 

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Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Pinky]

Hi 

Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I tried
numerous times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.

 

Ed

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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Aman Singer]

Hi Jim and all,

I have used both devices. The Smart beetle (SB) I returned, the VarioUltra (VU) 
I am currently trying. I have split this message into two parts. First, to 
respond to your request, Jim, about the differences, and the second to say why 
I gave up on the SB.
1.  The obvious differences. 
a.  The SB sells for $1300 USD for 14 cells. The VU cells for $2500 USD for 
20 cells and a greater amount for 40 cells, though obviously the 40 cell unit 
cannot be compared to the SB. 
B.  The VU has note taker/file reader/timer functions, which are quite 
good, but keep in mind that you can buy a note taker for $100 or less these 
days. The note taker is icing, but it's nice to have a cake with icing. The 
note taker generally works well. 
C.  Keep in mind that though both devices connect to multiple Bluetooth 
senders, the SB will emulate a keyboard and a braille display, while the VU 
will only work as a braille display. This is a serious shortcoming of the VU, 
you are stuck with the limited set of braille commands provided by your screen 
reader of choice with the VU, you are not so stuck with the SB. Further, if 
your screen reader crashes, that's the end of your display's usefulness until 
you bring it back up from the keyboard when using the VU. With the SB, you 
switch to keyboard mode, bring your reader back up, and are back in business in 
braille.
2. the non-obvious differences. 
A.  The VU's firmware is more reliable than the SB's code. The VU has never 
rebooted on me, loses connection quite rarely, and otherwise behaves better. 
This was the main reason I returned the SB, I've explained this in greater, I 
hope not too painfully greater, detail below.
B.  The support at Baum is, in my respectful view, better than that at 
Hims. This is not so much a difference in the people, all the support people 
I've dealt with, both at Baum and Hims, have been excellent and have done their 
best, but Baum seems to be interested in supporting the device they have a list 
on which many people from the company post, they return phone calls and emails, 
and so on, whereas the people at Hims are doing their best but seem not to have 
sufficient data. 
C.  The VU generally seems more polished and reacts more quickly to 
commands than the SB. The VU works, at the moment, better with iOS devices, 
though this advantage will, I hope, soon disappear with the SB being put in 
Apple's roster of braille displays. See my third issue about iOS below for a 
better explanation. 
D.  The vu has a lock function. The SB does not. I simply don't understand 
what the people at Hims were thinking when they didn't include this. 
E.  The VU has poorer battery life than the SB. Note that both charge by 
USB, battery life with the cheap and easy USB batteries out there is simply not 
an issue for most people though it may be for people who want every inch of 
space and want to lighten what they carry. Personally, I'm carrying three USB 
batteries anyway (computer, FM system, iPhone). 
F.  The SB has fewer shortcuts, particularly for switching between devices, 
than the VU does. Generally, the VU handles its keyboard better, there are 
shortcuts for everything and they are simple enough to learn. The SB, though it 
has fewer functions and could have put in shortcuts for them, generally 
doesn't.
3.  Personal preferences. 
A.  I like the size and shape of the keys more, they are larger and more 
distinct, on the SB. I like the spacing and positioning of the keys, they are 
more convenient to type on, on the VU. The VU designers had more space to work 
with, and they worked with it well, the keys are laid out with the space under 
the display, the keys above it, and shaped to fit the hand. On the SB, the 
keys, though larger, feel like they are crammed in. The joystick on the VU is a 
better navigational instrument than is available on the SB. 
B.  The braille is of a higher quality, in my view, on the VU. There is 
nothing wrong with the braille on the SB, it's just that the braille on the VU 
is better on my fingers at least.
C.  I like the solidity of the VU it seems more solidly built than the SB. 
I have yet to drop the devices on a concrete floor, and frankly don't plan to. 
The SB feels chunkier than the VU, the VU feels thinner and may be a bit 
lighter.

Here's what drove me away from the SB, which I initially preferred 
because of price and size:
1. Most importantly, it didn't work properly. It would have a hard time 
maintaining Bluetooth connectivity with one device, let alone multiple devices. 
When I called Hims for support, I was informed that it had not been properly 
tested with computers, but rather was expected to be used with smaller devices. 
I was also informed that firmware updates while in the field were probably not 
happening. I hope that's not true, but I didn't want to take the risk, there is 
allot of room for changes in the unit and if 

Some good news for Amazon echo owners who use the iPhone app

[Mary Otten]

For those of you who have the Amazon echo and use the iPhone app, or try to, 
you will perhaps be glad to know that Amazon has just started making available 
what it calls "skills". These are like apps for your echo, which are developed 
by third parties, and presumably also by Amazon developers, although the first 
ones they have released are from third-party developers. And, this part of the 
Amazon app, where you going to see what skills are available and enable them is 
actually, shock, accessible. Maybe the first skills aren't anything exciting, 
but, hopefully this means that when future ones come out they will also be. The 
math puzzles app is actually kind of fun.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Amy Ruel]

20 cell unit is $2395, 40 cell unit is $3995.
PayPal with 6 months interest free financing for qualified buyers is also 
available.

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Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Wow, that's Pretty cool, but likely expensive so only rehab agencies can really 
afford it lol.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Helli Jim and all,
> Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
> main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
> just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
> stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include word 
> processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file manager, 
> settings, and help.
> The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
> 2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
> time yearly.
> Hth,
> Amy Ruell
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Portillo
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
> 
> Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
> differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
>> £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, how much does this display cost? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
 HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
 I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already 
 paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can 
 remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has 
 a USB connection.
 
 I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
 asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
 Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
 quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
 
 At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
 order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  
 Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
 or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
 i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
 keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
 open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message using 
 it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of 
 deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there 
 may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille display could 
 imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you  can do with your 
 refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?
 
 Many thanks for any suggestions
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Devin Prater]

Wow, that's Pretty cool, but likely expensive so only rehab agencies can really 
afford it lol.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Helli Jim and all,
> Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
> main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
> just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
> stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include word 
> processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file manager, 
> settings, and help.
> The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
> 2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
> time yearly.
> Hth,
> Amy Ruell
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Portillo
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
> 
> Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
> differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
>> £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, how much does this display cost? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
 HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
 I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already 
 paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can 
 remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has 
 a USB connection.
 
 I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
 asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
 Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
 quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
 
 At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
 order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  
 Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
 or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
 i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
 keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
 open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message using 
 it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of 
 deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there 
 may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille display could 
 imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you  can do with your 
 refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?
 
 Many thanks for any suggestions
 
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Carol,

Yes, at present you have to pair Smart Beetle as BrailleSense because Apple has 
not as yet incorporated the Smart Beetle driver into its operating systems.  
However, HIMS provide instructions on how to make Smart Beetle appear as 
BrailleSense.  Once i took the initial steps to accomplish this on Smart Beetle 
itself, the pairing went smoothly.

Below I'm pasting the instructions as I received them from HIMS.  They are also 
included with the product on a separate Braille sheet.
"Smart Beetle with Apple products.
Note, the below refers to using Smart Beetle with products running Apple's iOS, 
including iPhone, iPad, and iPod as well as mac computers.
At the time of this writing, Apple has not implemented a Smart Beetle specific 
driver into iOS or the Mac OS. Thus, it has become necessary for us to do a 
work around in order that you may use your Smart Beetle with i-devices and Mac 
computers. 
In short, this work-around allows the Smart Beetle to emulate a Braille Sense 
notetaker, which is supported in Apple's operating systems. You can turn this 
emulation on and off simply by changing the Bluetooth name for the Bluetooth 
Serial port on the Smart Beetle.
note: this work-around requires you to use the Smart Beetle via Bluetooth when 
using a Mac computer.

To change the Bluetooth name, please do the following:
1) Press Power-F1, choose BRL and press "Enter". The unit displays "pairing 
BRL".
2) Press the Power button to open the menu, and Press the shortcut "I" to open 
"Information".
3) From the "Information" list, press (F2-F3-Dot1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8).
4) Return to "Information", and confirm the BRL Bluetooth name. 
Each time you follow these steps, the Bluetooth name is toggled between 
"SmartBeetle" and "BrailleSense", thus, you can use Smart Beetle in it's normal 
configuration for other screen readers. In addition, when Apple introduces 
Smart gheetle support, you will be able to change the Bluetooth name back to 
Smart Beetle and use it properly from that time."

I was nervous at first but I had downloaded the user guide for Smart Beetle 
from HIMS website and since the description of the unit was very good, I was 
able to learn a lot about it before I actually put my hands on it.

Good luck and ask anything if you wish and I will do my best to answer.  

Andrew
> On 14 Aug 2015, at 15:40, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings are you 
> using?
> 
> I saw one, as demo, but we couldn't pair it at the time and it seemed to be 
> because you had to pair it as Braille Sense, or something.
> 
> Please tell me what you did etc?  I did like the look and feel of it very 
> much and wanted one but ...
> 
> Carol P
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Andrew Lamanche" 
> To: "VIPhone" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:47 PM
> Subject: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
> 
> 
> Listers,
> 
> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
> HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
> I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already paired 
> it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can remember 5 
> different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has a USB 
> connection.
> 
> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart Beetle 
> from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading quietly is 
> intense!  I'm delighted.
> 
> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in order 
> to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  Also, Smart 
> Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display or as a 
> bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, i.e. you can 
> have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth keyboard for more 
> functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, open and close 
> applications, read text, I've written a text message using it, I can use the 
> rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of deleting an email I 
> didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there may be an equivalent of 
> a swiping gesture that Braille display could imitate.  I just wonder if you 
> could share what else you  can do with your refreshable Braille displays and 
> iPhone?
> 
> Many thanks for any suggestions
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: Workflow

[Jennie Facer]

I think you have to press the edit button. I think it's in there.

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> How does one delete a workflow they don’t want anymore?
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
>  
>  
>  
> A blind person asked St. Anthony, "Can there be anything worse than losing 
> eye sight?"
> He replied, "Yes, losing your vision!"
>  
>  
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RE: A Braille Smart Watch?

[Rose Combs]

It would need to be given to me, I only use Braille watches but I don't feel I 
need a smart one.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

Perfect, that's just what we need.
Even I might be tempted if the price was right.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?


If you read up on this watch at all, you'll see that it scrolls through
the text and you can start and stop the scrolling and control the speed
of the scrolling.

On 08/13/2015 10:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> My own opinion, since that seems to be the thing for this thread, is
> that four cells is just not enough. Even assuming spaces don't matter,
> imagine trying to read a hundred-character message or tweet? Unless
> there's an ingenious panning solution in this watch, I can't imagine how
> whacking the "Advance" button twenty-five times would be efficient. Of
> course, I'd love to try this thing out, as the price is low for what it
> is, and I'm just intrigued. I'm also very skeptical that this will prove
> useful. It seems easier to just leave a small braille display hooked on
> your belt or over your shoulder, if braille is important to you. After
> all, would that not provide the same kind of silent notification/reply
> options that a smart watch can? I'm not sure.
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Kerri G > > wrote:
>>
>> Still further, for my 3 cents worth, which you are also getting for
>> free, grin, if you are navigating with your guide dog or cane, you
>> have to stop, put the harness or cane in the other hand and read your
>> smart watch, this is one time I prefer siri or Talk back or voice over.
>> We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology,
>> in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner
>>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thinking this out a little further, can you wear a 20 cell display on
>>> your wrist?
>>> I’m not going to buy one, but just like the apple watch, (which I am
>>> also not going to buy,) you are paying for the convenience.
>>> Just my two cents worth, which you are getting for free, grin.
>>> Richard
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:36 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* RE: A Braille Smart Watch?
>>> Let’s think this out.  At 4 cells for $300, when you look at 20
>>> cells, you’re back in the price range of what you can get a 20-cell
>>> display for.
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:24 PM
>>> *To:* ViPone list >> >
>>> *Subject:* A Braille Smart Watch?
>>> I know nothing more than what is in the article below.  This was in
>>> an Email I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought
>>> some folks might be interested.
>>> The link to the article is at the end.
>>> Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch
>>> Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier
>>> By Alexandra Ossola
>>> Posted July 28, 2015
>>> now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch#
>>> Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the
>>> shifting pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down
>>> the technological literacy for the blind, but has also impaired their
>>> reading literacy, cutting them off from most information that isn't
>>> published in print. Some tech companies have found workarounds, like
>>> having Siri read texts or creating braille e-readers, but they are
>>> often clunky and expensive.
>>> A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution.
>>> They created
>>> Dot
>>> , the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of dots.
>>> This inexpensive gadget could help the blind catch up to the age of
>>> smartwatches, the sales of which have increased 475 percent in the
>>> last year thanks to the Apple Watch. But it could also be used as an
>>> educational tool.
>>> “Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for
>>> example, you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice,
>>> which is impersonal,” Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim told
>>> Tech in Asia
>>> . “Wouldn’t you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend’s
>>> voice saying it in your head?”
>>> The Dot wearable looks like a cross between a Fitbit a

dual source headset or earbuds that would work with an iPhone

[Brent Harding]

I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to 
hear a computer screen reader on one side and have a phone call on the other 
side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to 
the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with 
a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could 
make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it 
had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was 
going to use the iPhone or something with the same headset connector , which 
uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closest thing 
I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the 
RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. 
Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the 
other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so 
long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only 
dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call 
and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the 
person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to 
achieve this these days?

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Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Perfect, that's just what we need.
Even I might be tempted if the price was right.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?


If you read up on this watch at all, you'll see that it scrolls through
the text and you can start and stop the scrolling and control the speed
of the scrolling.

On 08/13/2015 10:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> My own opinion, since that seems to be the thing for this thread, is
> that four cells is just not enough. Even assuming spaces don't matter,
> imagine trying to read a hundred-character message or tweet? Unless
> there's an ingenious panning solution in this watch, I can't imagine how
> whacking the "Advance" button twenty-five times would be efficient. Of
> course, I'd love to try this thing out, as the price is low for what it
> is, and I'm just intrigued. I'm also very skeptical that this will prove
> useful. It seems easier to just leave a small braille display hooked on
> your belt or over your shoulder, if braille is important to you. After
> all, would that not provide the same kind of silent notification/reply
> options that a smart watch can? I'm not sure.
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Kerri G > > wrote:
>>
>> Still further, for my 3 cents worth, which you are also getting for
>> free, grin, if you are navigating with your guide dog or cane, you
>> have to stop, put the harness or cane in the other hand and read your
>> smart watch, this is one time I prefer siri or Talk back or voice over.
>> We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology,
>> in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner
>>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thinking this out a little further, can you wear a 20 cell display on
>>> your wrist?
>>> I’m not going to buy one, but just like the apple watch, (which I am
>>> also not going to buy,) you are paying for the convenience.
>>> Just my two cents worth, which you are getting for free, grin.
>>> Richard
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:36 AM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* RE: A Braille Smart Watch?
>>> Let’s think this out.  At 4 cells for $300, when you look at 20
>>> cells, you’re back in the price range of what you can get a 20-cell
>>> display for.
>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:24 PM
>>> *To:* ViPone list >> >
>>> *Subject:* A Braille Smart Watch?
>>> I know nothing more than what is in the article below.  This was in
>>> an Email I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought
>>> some folks might be interested.
>>> The link to the article is at the end.
>>> Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch
>>> Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier
>>> By Alexandra Ossola
>>> Posted July 28, 2015
>>> now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch#
>>> Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the
>>> shifting pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down
>>> the technological literacy for the blind, but has also impaired their
>>> reading literacy, cutting them off from most information that isn't
>>> published in print. Some tech companies have found workarounds, like
>>> having Siri read texts or creating braille e-readers, but they are
>>> often clunky and expensive.
>>> A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution.
>>> They created
>>> Dot
>>> , the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of dots.
>>> This inexpensive gadget could help the blind catch up to the age of
>>> smartwatches, the sales of which have increased 475 percent in the
>>> last year thanks to the Apple Watch. But it could also be used as an
>>> educational tool.
>>> “Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for
>>> example, you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice,
>>> which is impersonal,” Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim told
>>> Tech in Asia
>>> . “Wouldn’t you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend’s
>>> voice saying it in your head?”
>>> The Dot wearable looks like a cross between a Fitbit and a Pebble Time,
>>> Alphr notes
>>> . On its face, it has four cells each with six active dots, which can
>>> raise or lower to make four braille letters at a time. It links up
>>> with Bluetooth to convert text from apps like iMessage into their
>>> braille letter equivalents with the user’s voice commands. The device
>>> can last for five days without stopping to charge.
>>> One key feature of the Dot

Re: Apple Watch Questions

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

The Now Playing screen on the watch will let you start and stop playback of 
BARD Mobile once you've started playback in the app on your phone. The Rewind 
and Fast Forward buttons take you to the previous and next section. There's no 
way to hold down those buttons to rewind or fast forward in small increments, 
though, the way you can do with the buttons on the phone or with the controls 
on your headphones.

Best,
Anna



> On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:02 AM, SSEric  wrote:
> 
> I have not yet gotten to an Apple Store or Bestbuy for a hands-on with the
> watch. My questions here are because I am not sure they will have staff
> knowledgeable enough in the areas of concern to me, and maybe someone here
> will be kind enough to help.
> 
> I have two apps I really use a lot on my phone. One is the NFB NewsLine app.
> Will I be able to swipe and flick on the watch screen to read a paper. I am
> pretty sure there is not an app for the watch yet
> 
> Likewise, I use NLS BARD Mobile. I haven't checked for a watch app in some
> time, but don't recall hearing of one. Will I still be able to start/stop
> reading on the watch face.
> 
> I am not really sure how the watch works in terms of requiring an app or
> just being able to operate the iDevice remotely. Many thanks for any
> assistance.
> 
> Eric
> 
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Workflow

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi all,

 

How does one delete a workflow they don't want anymore?

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

 

 

A blind person asked St. Anthony, "Can there be anything worse than losing
eye sight?"

He replied, "Yes, losing your vision!"

 

 

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RE: A Braille Smart Watch?

[Rose Combs]

I was thinking that there would need to be a quick way to scroll also, I used 
the Optacon for years, it took both hands unless you had it hooked to an 
automatic scanner which I only saw during training.  You would not likely wish 
to keep pressing a button every four cells, could lead to repetitive strain 
injury.  


Rose Combs
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

I thought 4 cells didn't sound enough, but folk used to love the opticon, and 
that was only one finger-tips worth of image, and folk 
read print with it.
The device would need a rolling scroll, variable speed no doubt,  to coordinate 
to the speed you'd run your finger over a line of 
braile. Press and hold a button to make it scroll, take finger off button to 
make it stop. A reversal of the norm,holding the finger 
still and moving the text, instead of the other way round.
Tele-type and early digital displays used to do this, with scrolling news 
headlines, punctuated by very succinct ads. It would work!

BobH.

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?


My own opinion, since that seems to be the thing for this thread, is that four 
cells is just not enough. Even assuming spaces don't 
matter, imagine trying to read a hundred-character message or tweet? Unless 
there's an ingenious panning solution in this watch, I 
can't imagine how whacking the "Advance" button twenty-five times would be 
efficient. Of course, I'd love to try this thing out, as 
the price is low for what it is, and I'm just intrigued. I'm also very 
skeptical that this will prove useful. It seems easier to 
just leave a small braille display hooked on your belt or over your shoulder, 
if braille is important to you. After all, would that 
not provide the same kind of silent notification/reply options that a smart 
watch can? I'm not sure.
> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Kerri G  wrote:
>
> Still further, for my 3 cents worth, which you are also getting for free, 
> grin, if you are navigating with your guide dog or cane, 
> you have to stop, put the harness or cane in the other hand and read your 
> smart watch, this is one time I prefer siri or Talk back 
> or voice over.
> We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in 
> which hardly anyone knows anything about science and 
> technology.
>
>
>
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>>
>> Thinking this out a little further, can you wear a 20 cell display on your 
>> wrist?
>>
>> I’m not going to buy one, but just like the apple watch, (which I am also 
>> not going to buy,) you are paying for the convenience.
>> Just my two cents worth, which you are getting for free, grin.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: A Braille Smart Watch?
>>
>> Let’s think this out.  At 4 cells for $300, when you look at 20 cells, 
>> you’re back in the price range of what you can get a 
>> 20-cell display for.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:24 PM
>> To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: A Braille Smart Watch?
>>
>> I know nothing more than what is in the article below.  This was in an Email 
>> I received today from the National Braille Press. I 
>> thought some folks might be interested.
>>
>> The link to the article is at the end.
>>
>> Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch
>>
>> Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier
>>
>> By Alexandra Ossola
>> Posted July 28, 2015
>>
>> now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch#
>>
>> Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the shifting 
>> pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed 
>> down the technological literacy for the blind, but has also impaired their 
>> reading literacy, cutting them off from most 
>> information that isn't published in print. Some tech companies have found 
>> workarounds, like having Siri read texts or creating 
>> braille e-readers, but they are often clunky and expensive.
>>
>> A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution. They 
>> created
>> Dot
>> , the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of dots. This 
>> inexpensive gadget could help the bl

RE: Upgrading iOS

[Rose Combs]

This time iTunes did not offer the update info as much as it did in the past.  
I did my phone on iTunes since it was already connected, I did the iPad mini, 
original over the air and it actually went faster, a first.  


Rose Combs
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Upgrading iOS

One last thing I forgot. You got along without iOS 8, why not wait a month or 5 
weeks and then upgrade to iOS 9, this way you do just one upgrade and you are 
up to the newest OS.


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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgrading iOS

Hi Jo,

When you umpgrade, you won't lose your settings and passwords. The only time 
you'll do that is if you have to restore your phone. I suggest upgrading over 
the air for this reason. 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 13, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I've stayed put on iOS 7 but have encountered an app that just might
> persuade me to go up to iOS 8.4 a few of them actually. I'd like to keep my
> folders in tact. How can I go about preserving my current settings and
> passwords? Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Joe
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Andrew,

How did you manage to pair it and which of the keyboard settings are you 
using?


I saw one, as demo, but we couldn't pair it at the time and it seemed to be 
because you had to pair it as Braille Sense, or something.


Please tell me what you did etc?  I did like the look and feel of it very 
much and wanted one but ...


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Lamanche" 

To: "VIPhone" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:47 PM
Subject: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display


Listers,

It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already paired 
it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can remember 5 
different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has a USB 
connection.


I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart Beetle 
from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading quietly is 
intense!  I'm delighted.


At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in order 
to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  Also, 
Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display or as a 
bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, i.e. you can 
have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth keyboard for more 
functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, open and close 
applications, read text, I've written a text message using it, I can use the 
rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of deleting an email I 
didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there may be an equivalent 
of a swiping gesture that Braille display could imitate.  I just wonder if 
you could share what else you  can do with your refreshable Braille displays 
and iPhone?


Many thanks for any suggestions

Andrew

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Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I was definitely put off by how the article characterizes blind people's use of 
touch screen devices. It suggests that the author doesn't know much about how 
effectively blind people actually use them. Whether the people who built the 
watch share this ignorance is impossible to tell from the article. I was really 
skeptical of the Bookworm, an eight-cell braille display, until I saw one, at 
which point I was a lot more impressed than I thought I would be. So I wouldn't 
consider buying one of these watches unless I'd had a chance to see one in 
action or heard from experienced blind people that it was worth it, but I'm 
trying to ignore the attitude of the article's author and keep an open mind.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:05 AM, SSEric  wrote:
> 
> I wonder how much of the information in the article can be trusted. Maybe the 
> author is just ignorant but the blind has Seri read to them? Not a whole lot; 
> VoiceOver does the reading…
>  
> E
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?
>  
> Now if this company is actually real, more real than that laughable "braigo" 
> crap that's been around for years but hasn't done a thing, then I might just 
> have to look into this. But as I said before, they need to make an 
> inexpensive braille display before they get" to my heart. The watch will only 
> be a piece of bread in my belly. The display, though, will be the meat and 
> cheese.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
>> I know nothing more than what is in the article below.  This was in an Email 
>> I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought some folks might 
>> be interested.
>>  
>> The link to the article is at the end.
>>  
>> Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch
>>  
>> Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier
>>  
>> By Alexandra Ossola
>> Posted July 28, 2015
>>  
>> now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch#
>>  
>> Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the shifting 
>> pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down the technological 
>> literacy for the blind, but has also impaired their reading literacy, 
>> cutting them off from most information that isn't published in print. Some 
>> tech companies have found workarounds, like having Siri read texts or 
>> creating braille e-readers, but they are often clunky and expensive.
>>  
>> A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution. They 
>> created
>> Dot
>> , the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of dots. This 
>> inexpensive gadget could help the blind catch up to the age of smartwatches, 
>> the sales of which have increased 475 percent in the last year thanks to the 
>> Apple Watch. But it could also be used as an educational tool.
>>  
>> “Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for example, 
>> you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice, which is 
>> impersonal,” Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim told
>> Tech in Asia
>> . “Wouldn’t you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend’s voice 
>> saying it in your head?”
>>  
>> The Dot wearable looks like a cross between a Fitbit and a Pebble Time,
>> Alphr notes
>> . On its face, it has four cells each with six active dots, which can raise 
>> or lower to make four braille letters at a time. It links up with Bluetooth 
>> to convert text from apps like iMessage into their braille letter 
>> equivalents with the user’s voice commands. The device can last for five 
>> days without stopping to charge.
>>  
>> One key feature of the Dot wearable is its cost. Unlike braille e-readers, 
>> which can cost thousands of dollars, the device is slated to cost less than 
>> $300 when it hits the U.S. market in December.
>>  
>> But Dot envisions bringing braille beyond the wrist. The inventors have 
>> tested braille screen modules at ATMs and train stations, programming them 
>> to display information that regularly changes, such as account balances or 
>> train schedules. After the wearable’s launch in December, the startup will 
>> shift  towards the public sector, which it anticipates could be its largest 
>> market.
>>  
>> http://www.popsci.com/now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch 
>> 
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RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Amy Ruel]

Hi Andy, 
At your home or other local location.
Thanks.
Amy


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Hi Amy, okay, let me look into this.  I have never used or felt a notetaker 
or braille display but, could very well have good use of it.
Where would I be able to get this orientation with the product?

-Original Message-
From: Amy Ruel
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Hello Andy,
There is a 6-month option to pay through PayPal without interest for those who 
qualify. And, since you live close, we could provide you with some orientation 
and limited training.

Let me know if I can provide additional information.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Hi Amy, does this firm have a way to pay monthly for the 40 cell product?  
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Amy Ruel
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Helli Jim and all,
Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not just 
a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a stand alone 
notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include word processor, 
calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file manager, settings, and 
help.
The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 time 
yearly.
Hth,
Amy Ruell


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Jim Portillo
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!

> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>
> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK 
> for £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
>
> Andrew
>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, how much does this display cost?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display 
>>> produced by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound 
>>> in the UK, I feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are 
>>> nice.  I've already paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this 
>>> Braille display can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which 
>>> one connects.  It also has a USB connection.
>>>
>>> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to 
>>> be asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using 
>>> Smart Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of 
>>> reading quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
>>>
>>> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked 
>>> in order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience 
>>> too?
>>> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille 
>>> display or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in 
>>> combo mode, i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and 
>>> as a bluetooth keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home 
>>> screens using it, open and close applications, read text, I've 
>>> written a text message using it, I can use the rotor.  However, when 
>>> in Mail, I couldn't find a way of deleting an email I didn't want to 
>>> read and I was wondering whether there may be an equivalent of a 
>>> swiping gesture that Braille display could imitate.  I just wonder 
>>> if you could share what else you can do with your refreshable 
>>> Braille displays and iPhone?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for any suggestions
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   Hi Amy, okay, let me look into this.  I have never used or felt a 
notetaker or braille display but, could very well have good use of it.

Where would I be able to get this orientation with the product?

-Original Message- 
From: Amy Ruel

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Hello Andy,
There is a 6-month option to pay through PayPal without interest for those 
who qualify. And, since you live close, we could provide you with some 
orientation and limited training.


Let me know if I can provide additional information.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

   Hi Amy, does this firm have a way to pay monthly for the 40 cell 
product?  Andy


-Original Message-
From: Amy Ruel
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Helli Jim and all,
Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include 
word processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file 
manager, settings, and help.
The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
time yearly.

Hth,
Amy Ruell


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Portillo

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!



On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK
for £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.

Andrew

On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:

Wow, how much does this display cost?

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Listers,

It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display
produced by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound
in the UK, I feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are
nice.  I've already paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this
Braille display can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which
one connects.  It also has a USB connection.

I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to
be asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using
Smart Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of
reading quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.

At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked
in order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience 
too?

Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille
display or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in
combo mode, i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and
as a bluetooth keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home
screens using it, open and close applications, read text, I've
written a text message using it, I can use the rotor.  However, when
in Mail, I couldn't find a way of deleting an email I didn't want to
read and I was wondering whether there may be an equivalent of a
swiping gesture that Braille display could imitate.  I just wonder
if you could share what else you can do with your refreshable Braille 
displays and iPhone?


Many thanks for any suggestions

Andrew

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RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Amy Ruel]

Hello Andy,
There is a 6-month option to pay through PayPal without interest for those who 
qualify. And, since you live close, we could provide you with some orientation 
and limited training.

Let me know if I can provide additional information.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Hi Amy, does this firm have a way to pay monthly for the 40 cell product?  
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Amy Ruel
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Helli Jim and all,
Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not just 
a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a stand alone 
notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include word processor, 
calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file manager, settings, and 
help.
The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 time 
yearly.
Hth,
Amy Ruell


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Portillo
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!

> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>
> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK 
> for £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
>
> Andrew
>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, how much does this display cost?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display 
>>> produced by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound 
>>> in the UK, I feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are 
>>> nice.  I've already paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this 
>>> Braille display can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which 
>>> one connects.  It also has a USB connection.
>>>
>>> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to 
>>> be asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using 
>>> Smart Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of 
>>> reading quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
>>>
>>> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked 
>>> in order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?
>>> Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille 
>>> display or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in 
>>> combo mode, i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and 
>>> as a bluetooth keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home 
>>> screens using it, open and close applications, read text, I've 
>>> written a text message using it, I can use the rotor.  However, when 
>>> in Mail, I couldn't find a way of deleting an email I didn't want to 
>>> read and I was wondering whether there may be an equivalent of a 
>>> swiping gesture that Braille display could imitate.  I just wonder 
>>> if you could share what else you can do with your refreshable Braille 
>>> displays and iPhone?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for any suggestions
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   Hi Amy, does this firm have a way to pay monthly for the 40 cell 
product?  Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Amy Ruel

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Helli Jim and all,
Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include 
word processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file 
manager, settings, and help.
The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
time yearly.

Hth,
Amy Ruell


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Portillo

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!



On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
£799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.


Andrew

On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:

Wow, how much does this display cost?

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Listers,

It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced 
by HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I 
feel I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've 
already paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display 
can remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It 
also has a USB connection.


I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.


At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too? 
Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message 
using it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a 
way of deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering 
whether there may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille 
display could imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you 
can do with your refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?


Many thanks for any suggestions

Andrew

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Re: Apple Watch Questions

[Brent Harding]

As for NFB Newsline, probably not until they make a watch app. As for 
starting and stopping with the NLS app, I would have to check that out. Some 
phone apps allow you to use the play and stop controls, and some don't. I 
recall having Netflix or Hulu switch to a seemingly random song when I hit 
those buttons.


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From: "SSEric" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:02 AM
Subject: Apple Watch Questions


I have not yet gotten to an Apple Store or Bestbuy for a hands-on with the
watch. My questions here are because I am not sure they will have staff
knowledgeable enough in the areas of concern to me, and maybe someone here
will be kind enough to help.

I have two apps I really use a lot on my phone. One is the NFB NewsLine app.
Will I be able to swipe and flick on the watch screen to read a paper. I am
pretty sure there is not an app for the watch yet

Likewise, I use NLS BARD Mobile. I haven't checked for a watch app in some
time, but don't recall hearing of one. Will I still be able to start/stop
reading on the watch face.

I am not really sure how the watch works in terms of requiring an app or
just being able to operate the iDevice remotely. Many thanks for any
assistance.

Eric


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RE: A Braille Smart Watch?

[SSEric]

I wonder how much of the information in the article can be trusted. Maybe
the author is just ignorant but the blind has Seri read to them? Not a whole
lot; VoiceOver does the reading.

 

E

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

 

Now if this company is actually real, more real than that laughable "braigo"
crap that's been around for years but hasn't done a thing, then I might just
have to look into this. But as I said before, they need to make an
inexpensive braille display before they get" to my heart. The watch will
only be a piece of bread in my belly. The display, though, will be the meat
and cheese.  

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

I know nothing more than what is in the article below.  This was in an Email
I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought some folks might
be interested.

 

The link to the article is at the end.

 

Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch

 

Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier

 

By Alexandra Ossola

Posted July 28, 2015

 

now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch#

 

Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the shifting
pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down the technological
literacy for the blind, but has also impaired their reading literacy,
cutting them off from most information that isn't published in print. Some
tech companies have found workarounds, like having Siri read texts or
creating braille e-readers, but they are often clunky and expensive.

 

A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution. They
created

Dot

, the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of dots. This
inexpensive gadget could help the blind catch up to the age of smartwatches,
the sales of which have increased 475 percent in the last year thanks to the
Apple Watch. But it could also be used as an educational tool.

 

"Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for example,
you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice, which is
impersonal," Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim told

Tech in Asia

. "Wouldn't you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend's voice
saying it in your head?"

 

The Dot wearable looks like a cross between a Fitbit and a Pebble Time,

Alphr notes

. On its face, it has four cells each with six active dots, which can raise
or lower to make four braille letters at a time. It links up with Bluetooth
to convert text from apps like iMessage into their braille letter
equivalents with the user's voice commands. The device can last for five
days without stopping to charge.

 

One key feature of the Dot wearable is its cost. Unlike braille e-readers,
which can cost thousands of dollars, the device is slated to cost less than
$300 when it hits the U.S. market in December.

 

But Dot envisions bringing braille beyond the wrist. The inventors have
tested braille screen modules at ATMs and train stations, programming them
to display information that regularly changes, such as account balances or
train schedules. After the wearable's launch in December, the startup will
shift  towards the public sector, which it anticipates could be its largest
market.

 

http://www.popsci.com/now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch

 

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Apple Watch Questions

[SSEric]

I have not yet gotten to an Apple Store or Bestbuy for a hands-on with the
watch. My questions here are because I am not sure they will have staff
knowledgeable enough in the areas of concern to me, and maybe someone here
will be kind enough to help.

I have two apps I really use a lot on my phone. One is the NFB NewsLine app.
Will I be able to swipe and flick on the watch screen to read a paper. I am
pretty sure there is not an app for the watch yet

Likewise, I use NLS BARD Mobile. I haven't checked for a watch app in some
time, but don't recall hearing of one. Will I still be able to start/stop
reading on the watch face.

I am not really sure how the watch works in terms of requiring an app or
just being able to operate the iDevice remotely. Many thanks for any
assistance.

Eric


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Re: Voice ocr app

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hello,
I can confirm your observations Russ. I didn’t get Voice to work on my iPhone 
6. I came as far as to hear the voice say that all four corners of my document 
were detected but when i took a picture and tried to read it, either there was 
silence or there came a message that no text was detected on the page. I know 
it’s unfair in the extreme to compare this free app with the KNFB reader, but i 
can say that Voice is much less forgiving when it comes to aiming at a paper 
and get it read. By this i don’t mean that Voice is bad, far from it, only that 
i guess it has a quite steep learning curve just like prizmo and other OCR apps.
/Krister

> 14 aug. 2015 kl. 15:01 skrev Russ Kiehne :
> 
> I had no luck on getting it to work on my 5th generation ipod touch.  Nothing 
> happens when I open it.
>  
> From: Pinky 
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Voice ocr app
>  
> Hi,
> I downloaded the Voice ocr app but when I open it nothing happens. Voice over 
> does not speak. I uninstalled it and downloaded it again and the same thing 
> happened. One time I got it to asked me to allow the camera and I did that 
> but then it was froze up again and VO did not even work. I had to delete it 
> again. Does anyone know why this Voice OCR app is not working. I have an iPad 
> running IOS 8.3.
>  
> This voice ocr app is on applevis right now and it sounds like it is very 
> good OCR app and it is free.
>  
> Any help on this matter would be appreciated.
>  
> Ed
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Re: Voice ocr app

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
The app loaded fine for me with no problems. When I launched the app, it 
requested to access my camera and I allowed it and have not had problems after 
that. I am using the iPhone 5 with iOS 8.4.1


Regards,
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> On Aug 13, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Pinky  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I downloaded the Voice ocr app but when I open it nothing happens. Voice over 
> does not speak. I uninstalled it and downloaded it again and the same thing 
> happened. One time I got it to asked me to allow the camera and I did that 
> but then it was froze up again and VO did not even work. I had to delete it 
> again. Does anyone know why this Voice OCR app is not working. I have an iPad 
> running IOS 8.3.
>  
> This voice ocr app is on applevis right now and it sounds like it is very 
> good OCR app and it is free.
>  
> Any help on this matter would be appreciated.
>  
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Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Jim Portillo]

Excellent! Thanks to all of you for your answers. 

Sent from my iPhone 6!

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Helli Jim and all,
> Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
> main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not 
> just a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a 
> stand alone notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include word 
> processor, calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file manager, 
> settings, and help.
> The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
> 2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 
> time yearly.
> Hth,
> Amy Ruell
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Portillo
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display
> 
> Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
> differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
>> £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, how much does this display cost? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
 HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
 I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already 
 paired it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can 
 remember 5 different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has 
 a USB connection.
 
 I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
 asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
 Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading 
 quietly is intense!  I'm delighted.
 
 At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in 
 order to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  
 Also, Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display 
 or as a bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, 
 i.e. you can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth 
 keyboard for more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, 
 open and close applications, read text, I've written a text message using 
 it, I can use the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of 
 deleting an email I didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there 
 may be an equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille display could 
 imitate.  I just wonder if you could share what else you  can do with your 
 refreshable Braille displays and iPhone?
 
 Many thanks for any suggestions
 
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Re: Voice ocr app

[Russ Kiehne]

I had no luck on getting it to work on my 5th generation ipod touch.  Nothing 
happens when I open it.

From: Pinky 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Voice ocr app

Hi,

I downloaded the Voice ocr app but when I open it nothing happens. Voice over 
does not speak. I uninstalled it and downloaded it again and the same thing 
happened. One time I got it to asked me to allow the camera and I did that but 
then it was froze up again and VO did not even work. I had to delete it again. 
Does anyone know why this Voice OCR app is not working. I have an iPad running 
IOS 8.3.

 

This voice ocr app is on applevis right now and it sounds like it is very good 
OCR app and it is free.

 

Any help on this matter would be appreciated.

 

Ed

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Re: mapquest app and getting more information from it

[Brent Harding]

I thought Apple maps gave you a map you could explore, but I never quite 
figured out that feature of it. The trick with Seeing Eye, or any of them is to 
probably be able to know enough of the route ahead of time so it recalculates 
you around the intersection you wanted to avoid. When we do it at least the 
first time, my instructor will be along, so we can check out the big 
intersection to see how hard it really sounds to determine when to cross it. If 
she meant large in the sense that it has a median where it will take a couple 
cycles to cross, then that other route I can't find might be in order.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:50 PM
  Subject: RE: mapquest app and getting more information from it


  I guess I missed that part of your original question.  Sorry.

  No, MapQuest does not give you the cross streets until you are ready to turn.

  BlindSquare will announce them as you come to them.

  I think the only way to do a virtual tour to get familiar with the cross 
streets might be with something like the Seeing Eye GPS software for the 
computer, whose exact name escapes me right now.

  I think you can do a virtual walk-through of a route on the computer.  Check 
the Senderogroup.com web site.

   

  I hope that helps,

  Richard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:36 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: mapquest app and getting more information from it

   

  Is there a way to get the list of cross streets without being able to read 
the map? As for their website, the drive and walk options aren't visible with 
JFW. I want to know what streets I will be crossing in a longer span when it 
might say something like, "Go 0.3 miles and turn left on Adams". I may need to 
take a bus somewhere I haven't gone and don't know what streets are out there, 
and I'd like to plan it before I go.

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: ViPone list 

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:00 AM

Subject: RE: mapquest app and getting more information from it

 

Hi,

In the current version of MapQuest, make sure it is using your location.

Then, put in your destination address in what it seems to call B.  Double 
tap on Get Directions.

 

Now, don’t double tap on start navigation.

If you have more than one route possible, you should find them labeled as 
route 1, route 2, etc.

Double tap on route 1 and it should say selected.

Then, flick right to the list button and double tap and it too should now 
say selected.

Then, flick right beyond the information about traffic and you should find 
the list of directions.

After checking that out, just go back to the upper part of the screen and 
select route 2 and so on.

Once you find the route you want, then double tap on start navigation.

 

It is unfortunate that MapQuest won’t let third party apps like BlindSquare 
launch it or it could become an option for turn by turn routes from within 
BlindSquare.

 

For the most part, I prefer MapQuest over Google or Apple Maps.

 

I hope that helps,

Richard

 

 

 

From: "Brent Harding" 
Date: August 9, 2015 at 2:51:52 PM PDT
To: 
Subject: mapquest app and getting more information from it
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Hi there! I found that Seeing Eye doesn't always give me enough 
information about the route I'm trying to do, or gives me a route to go the 
wrong way on a 1-way street, or to use that street at a location it doesn't go 
through. I just tried downloading Mapquest to see what routes are possible to 
go to a location where my ATM access would be free. I don't want to pay $4 at 
the other place I found. When I put in the address of where I want to go, and 
it makes up a route, I hit the list button so I can read all the directions. 
How do I get the other routes I can use? I tried their website, and I can't 
figure out how to get it to switch to walking directions, and highways just 
don't work when you're blind. I've always been shown routes I needed to know by 
whatever O&M instructor I had, but my VR counselor expects me to be able to 
take the bus anywhere it goes in town without the instructor's help. I can't 
seem to get the transit person to stay on the phone long enough and explain all 
the rest of the directions, as they want me to do, and holding up the bus once 
we arrive to try getting it from the driver is bad. Is there a better site or 
app I could use to figure out alternate routes, and to know exactly what 
streets I would be crossing when it says "Go 0.3 miles on Pine Street and turn 
left on Adams" if I don't already know them.

   

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Re: Upgrading iOS

[Sherrie]

As one of the cautious users still on IOS 7 I like to wait until the bugs 
are ironed out before upgrading. So I am ready to go to IOS 8 now and 
appreciate your advice. But no way will I jump into IOS 9 until I know it 
will have the accessibility bugs fixed.

Sticking with my Windows 7 on the laptop for the same reason.
Sherrie Gosling

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Upgrading iOS

One last thing I forgot. You got along without iOS 8, why not wait a month 
or 5 weeks and then upgrade to iOS 9, this way you do just one upgrade and 
you are up to the newest OS.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jennie Facer

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgrading iOS

Hi Jo,

When you umpgrade, you won't lose your settings and passwords. The only time 
you'll do that is if you have to restore your phone. I suggest upgrading 
over the air for this reason.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Aug 13, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe  wrote:

Hi, I've stayed put on iOS 7 but have encountered an app that just might
persuade me to go up to iOS 8.4 a few of them actually. I'd like to keep 
my

folders in tact. How can I go about preserving my current settings and
passwords? Thanks in advance for your help.

Joe

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Re: mapquest app and getting more information from it

[Brent Harding]

I was able to get it to give me one route, but I didn't find any route 2 or 
other buttons. The idea is to be able to find what the route would be, crossing 
the street I need to cross at a less busy intersection. My O&M instructor may 
be concerned about me crossing a very large intersection that all the apps 
suggest, if it doesn't suggest using the street that doesn't go through where I 
would be. I know which intersection might be better, but I don't know what the 
rest of the route is beyond that. My VR person expects me to be able to find 
these some how without knowing the order of every single street in the city, of 
which there are probably hundreds.


  - Original Message - 
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  To: ViPone list 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:00 AM
  Subject: RE: mapquest app and getting more information from it


  Hi,

  In the current version of MapQuest, make sure it is using your location.

  Then, put in your destination address in what it seems to call B.  Double tap 
on Get Directions.

   

  Now, don’t double tap on start navigation.

  If you have more than one route possible, you should find them labeled as 
route 1, route 2, etc.

  Double tap on route 1 and it should say selected.

  Then, flick right to the list button and double tap and it too should now say 
selected.

  Then, flick right beyond the information about traffic and you should find 
the list of directions.

  After checking that out, just go back to the upper part of the screen and 
select route 2 and so on.

  Once you find the route you want, then double tap on start navigation.

   

  It is unfortunate that MapQuest won’t let third party apps like BlindSquare 
launch it or it could become an option for turn by turn routes from within 
BlindSquare.

   

  For the most part, I prefer MapQuest over Google or Apple Maps.

   

  I hope that helps,

  Richard

   

   

   

  From: "Brent Harding" 
  Date: August 9, 2015 at 2:51:52 PM PDT
  To: 
  Subject: mapquest app and getting more information from it
  Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi there! I found that Seeing Eye doesn't always give me enough information 
about the route I'm trying to do, or gives me a route to go the wrong way on a 
1-way street, or to use that street at a location it doesn't go through. I just 
tried downloading Mapquest to see what routes are possible to go to a location 
where my ATM access would be free. I don't want to pay $4 at the other place I 
found. When I put in the address of where I want to go, and it makes up a 
route, I hit the list button so I can read all the directions. How do I get the 
other routes I can use? I tried their website, and I can't figure out how to 
get it to switch to walking directions, and highways just don't work when 
you're blind. I've always been shown routes I needed to know by whatever O&M 
instructor I had, but my VR counselor expects me to be able to take the bus 
anywhere it goes in town without the instructor's help. I can't seem to get the 
transit person to stay on the phone long enough and explain all the rest of the 
directions, as they want me to do, and holding up the bus once we arrive to try 
getting it from the driver is bad. Is there a better site or app I could use to 
figure out alternate routes, and to know exactly what streets I would be 
crossing when it says "Go 0.3 miles on Pine Street and turn left on Adams" if I 
don't already know them.

 

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Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'd suggest you do a bit more research before jumping to such 
conclusions. I doubt you have any idea whether this company worked with 
blind people in the research and development of this product or not. 
Your comments seem to indicate that you haven't done much reading on 
this device, and obviously, you haven't seen it in action yet.


As others have said, a 12 or 14 cell braille display won't be as mobile 
as a watch. Just because you don't see how such a device would be useful 
doesn't mean there aren't others out there who wouldn't find this device 
beneficial.


Luckily there are smart engineers out there who don't listen to such 
uninformed negativity and don't just assume it's impossible to come up 
with a braille smart watch. It's a good thing Apple engineers didn't 
listen to all of the blind nay sayers who said a touch screen could 
never be used by the blind. For me, I say put your smart guys on it, 
bring me your good ideas, and I'll buy it if I think it's worth it or 
I'll move on if I don't. Either way, all blind people will have more 
options and more choices.



On 08/14/2015 12:01 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

Companies are getting more stupid every day. Rule 1. Contact actual
blind people before making something, or all you'll do is make yourself
look incredibly stupid.
Now, if you want to make braille, make an 18 cell or even 14 cell device
for mobile, and 40 or 32 for computer usage. Want to make the price go
down? Make a braille display with 12 cells for less than $100 and you'll
gain my respect as Apple has. But until then, braille, my precious, we
must be apart in the digital age.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:


My own opinion, since that seems to be the thing for this thread, is
that four cells is just not enough. Even assuming spaces don't matter,
imagine trying to read a hundred-character message or tweet? Unless
there's an ingenious panning solution in this watch, I can't imagine
how whacking the "Advance" button twenty-five times would be
efficient. Of course, I'd love to try this thing out, as the price is
low for what it is, and I'm just intrigued. I'm also very skeptical
that this will prove useful. It seems easier to just leave a small
braille display hooked on your belt or over your shoulder, if braille
is important to you. After all, would that not provide the same kind
of silent notification/reply options that a smart watch can? I'm not sure.

On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Kerri G mailto:kerri.g1...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Still further, for my 3 cents worth, which you are also getting for
free, grin, if you are navigating with your guide dog or cane, you
have to stop, put the harness or cane in the other hand and read your
smart watch, this is one time I prefer siri or Talk back or voice over.
We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology,
in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.




On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
wrote:

Thinking this out a little further, can you wear a 20 cell display
on your wrist?
I’m not going to buy one, but just like the apple watch, (which I am
also not going to buy,) you are paying for the convenience.
Just my two cents worth, which you are getting for free, grin.
Richard
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: A Braille Smart Watch?
Let’s think this out.  At 4 cells for $300, when you look at 20
cells, you’re back in the price range of what you can get a 20-cell
display for.
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:24 PM
*To:* ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
*Subject:* A Braille Smart Watch?
I know nothing more than what is in the article below.  This was in
an Email I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought
some folks might be interested.
The link to the article is at the end.
Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch
Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier
By Alexandra Ossola
Posted July 28, 2015
now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch#
Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the
shifting pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down
the technological literacy for the blind, but has also impaired
their reading literacy, cutting them off from most information that
isn't published in print. Some tech companies have found
workarounds, like having Siri read texts or creating braille
e-readers, but they are often clunky and expensive.
A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution.
They created
Dot
, the first brai

Re: A Braille Smart Watch?

[Christopher Chaltain]

If you read up on this watch at all, you'll see that it scrolls through 
the text and you can start and stop the scrolling and control the speed 
of the scrolling.


On 08/13/2015 10:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

My own opinion, since that seems to be the thing for this thread, is
that four cells is just not enough. Even assuming spaces don't matter,
imagine trying to read a hundred-character message or tweet? Unless
there's an ingenious panning solution in this watch, I can't imagine how
whacking the "Advance" button twenty-five times would be efficient. Of
course, I'd love to try this thing out, as the price is low for what it
is, and I'm just intrigued. I'm also very skeptical that this will prove
useful. It seems easier to just leave a small braille display hooked on
your belt or over your shoulder, if braille is important to you. After
all, would that not provide the same kind of silent notification/reply
options that a smart watch can? I'm not sure.

On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Kerri G mailto:kerri.g1...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Still further, for my 3 cents worth, which you are also getting for
free, grin, if you are navigating with your guide dog or cane, you
have to stop, put the harness or cane in the other hand and read your
smart watch, this is one time I prefer siri or Talk back or voice over.
We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology,
in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.




On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Thinking this out a little further, can you wear a 20 cell display on
your wrist?
I’m not going to buy one, but just like the apple watch, (which I am
also not going to buy,) you are paying for the convenience.
Just my two cents worth, which you are getting for free, grin.
Richard
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
*Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: A Braille Smart Watch?
Let’s think this out.  At 4 cells for $300, when you look at 20
cells, you’re back in the price range of what you can get a 20-cell
display for.
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:24 PM
*To:* ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
*Subject:* A Braille Smart Watch?
I know nothing more than what is in the article below.  This was in
an Email I received today from the National Braille Press. I thought
some folks might be interested.
The link to the article is at the end.
Now The Blind Can Read Texts On This New Braille Smartwatch
Giving the blind one more technological tool to make life easier
By Alexandra Ossola
Posted July 28, 2015
now-blind-can-read-texts-shifting-braille-smartwatch#
Touchscreens are not conducive to the blind as they cannot see the
shifting pixels on the smooth device. That has not only slowed down
the technological literacy for the blind, but has also impaired their
reading literacy, cutting them off from most information that isn't
published in print. Some tech companies have found workarounds, like
having Siri read texts or creating braille e-readers, but they are
often clunky and expensive.
A South Korean startup company may have finally found a solution.
They created
Dot
, the first braille smartwatch, complete with shifting cells of dots.
This inexpensive gadget could help the blind catch up to the age of
smartwatches, the sales of which have increased 475 percent in the
last year thanks to the Apple Watch. But it could also be used as an
educational tool.
“Until now, if you got a message on iOS from your girlfriend, for
example, you had to listen to Siri read it to you in that voice,
which is impersonal,” Dot CEO Eric Ju Yoon Kim told
Tech in Asia
. “Wouldn’t you rather read it yourself and hear your girlfriend’s
voice saying it in your head?”
The Dot wearable looks like a cross between a Fitbit and a Pebble Time,
Alphr notes
. On its face, it has four cells each with six active dots, which can
raise or lower to make four braille letters at a time. It links up
with Bluetooth to convert text from apps like iMessage into their
braille letter equivalents with the user’s voice commands. The device
can last for five days without stopping to charge.
One key feature of the Dot wearable is its cost. Unlike braille
e-readers, which can cost thousands of dollars, the device is slated
to cost less than $300 when it hits the U.S. market in December.
But Dot envisions bringing braille beyond the wrist. The inventors
have tested braille screen modules at ATMs and train stations,
programming them to display information that regularly changes, such
as account balances or train schedules. After the wearable’s launch
in December, the startup will shift  towards the public sector, which
it ant

Re: facebook messenger audio messages

[Paul Ferrara]

So what is the best way to hold it?

-Original Message- 
From: Corey Cook

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook messenger audio messages

I think it has a lot to do with the way the phone is held

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:46 AM, Kevin Wassmer  wrote:

Just so you all know. I do not like the limit of 1 minute on Face Book
Messinger. I think that is very old fashond. Now, with the unlimited
amount of memory, you should be able to record how much you want. Just
like you can with I messenger voice messaging or voice memos that you
can send as an attached file to your text messages.


On 8/13/15, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
Maybe that’s why it seems to cut off though it happens at times after 
only a

few seconds; maybe it’s how I’m holding the phone.

From: hebertisaa...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook messenger audio messages

Hi the limit according to my research is up to 1 minute that you can 
record

a voice message in facebook messenger.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:


 Hello, I have been experimenting with Messenger’s voice option; 
sometimes
it does well while at other times it cuts off my message meaning that 
when

you play it back, it loops and resays something or you hear nothing. Does
anyone have any tips and tricks for this, and is there a message limit as
far as length of time for the message?
 Are there any other good alternatives, and does the other person have to
have the alternative option?

 Thank you.

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Re: Looking for a txting app I can use on my iPad mini

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sorry about that. I thought it was a North American thing. I did find 
this article which talks about how you can use Google Voice in Canada. 
Might not be worth it though. 
http://www.komodocontacts.com/page/how-to-use-google-voice-in-canada


On 08/13/2015 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Google Voice is not available in Canada.

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Google Voice and Hangout s.

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Hi,

I live in Canada and am looking for an app that I can use on my iPad
mini to txt friends in the US and Canada?  Anyone know of one that
works well?

Thanks in advance if you can help me.

Jen

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Ibooks question

[denise avant]

Hello all,
I recently bought an audio book from as an ibook. I downloaded it to my phone, 
but don’t see it on my ipad. usually when I buy digital book, they appear 
across all devices. is this not the case with an audio book that is now under 
Ibooks?

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Re: App has been submitted to Applevis

[Dave]

hi, first of all, not sure what you mean about selling your membership, do you 
mean terminate it?

Next, all the downloadable books, are mp3.

The 10percent that are DRM protected, can be streamed through your PC, or 
downloaded to, or streamed through your iDevice.

Next, the club memberships, only gives you access to discounts. Books can still 
be purchased and played with a free account.

But all this information, is available on the website, and don’t forget, you 
can get a 30 day free trial.

Hope this helps.

Dave and Maria.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: App has been submitted to Applevis

What format are these books in when you download them? You mention many are DRM 
free so are they MP3? What about those which are not DRM free, what happens if 
I can cel my membership, can I still play them?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

somewhere between 10 and 30 dollars give or take.

 

But that is before your discount, if you take out 1 of their plans, and they 
have sales and special offers.

 

Dave and Maria.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 4:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

What is the average price for popular novels from some of the authors they 
mention? You can just mention the regular prices, I can do the 50% or 40% off 
math.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

hi, first of all, the free books are not in the public domain, and they are 
from known authors.

 

for 5 dollars per month, you get 1 book at 50 percent discount, and for 7 
dollars you get 3 books per month at 50 percent off.

 

in our opinion, the prices are reasonable, and also 90 percent of the novels 
are DRM free.

 

Dave and Maria.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

Hi Alan,

 

I just read the Applevis review and it mentions the website of the service 
which is www.AudioBooksNow.com. I had a look at the website and found a “How it 
works” link, here is what they say:

 

How It Works

Join - Just $5/month gets you 50% off the first audiobook you purchase each 
month, Club Pricing Plan (free trial).

Save - Keep saving up to 40% off every audiobook you purchase during the month 
at the normal club price.

Listen - Stream or download your purchases from our website or use our free 
smartphone or tablet apps.

Relax - No long term commitments, you can cancel your Club Pricing Plan at any 
time. It's that simple! Start Free Trial

Plus, choose from 100's of free audiobooks with activation of Club Pricing Plan.

 

Get audiobooks you love for less. Our Club Pricing Plan gives you 50% off your 
first audiobook each month and up to 40% off everything else. And, if you do 
not use your 50% discount, it automatically rolls over to the next month.

 

We offer a large selection of bestselling and classic titles. James Patterson, 
Vince Flynn, Nora Roberts, John Grisham, Kay Hooper, Iris Johansen, Stephen 
King, David Baldacci, Dean Koontz, Catherine Coulter, Janet Evanovich, Nicholas 
Sparks, J.D. Robb, Michael Connelly, John Sandford, Harlan Coben are just some 
of the many popular authors we offer.

 

Get them how you want them.

Stream or download your audiobook purchases directly from our website or 
download them through our free apps. Bookmarks are continuously synced with our 
servers so you can go from listening to your audiobooks on the way to work 
through your smartphone, to listening on your computer when you get to the 
office without skipping a beat.

AudiobooksNow apps are compatible with most Android and Apple devices. 
Streaming from our website can also be done through all major web browsers 
including Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer, and Safari.

 

Maybe somebody who has purchased the $5 membership can post some book prices, 
but I don’t see how this is less expensive than Audible where you pay $14.95 a 
month and get a book for free or $22.95 for 2 books. Yes, you only pay $5, but 
you then buy a book at 50% off (whatever that price would be) and I am sure the 
hundreds of free books they mention are public domain books which you can get 
for free from many websites or services.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

[Amy Ruel]

Helli Jim and all,
Full disclosure, I work for Baum USA and support the VarioUltra. One of the 
main differences between this and the Beetle is that the VarioUltra is not just 
a braille display; It has a suite of applications and can work as a stand alone 
notetaker with 32 giggs of storage. The applications include word processor, 
calculator, pdf, powerpoint,  and excel viewers, file manager, settings, and 
help.
The VarioUltra has 20 and 40 cell options, has aluminum housing, and has a 
2-year warranty which includes free cleaning and battery care if sent in 1 time 
yearly.
Hth,
Amy Ruell


-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart Beetle 14 cells refreshable Braille display

Has anyone compared this to the Vario Ultra? I would love to know any major 
differences. Sent from my iPhone 6!

> On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> It's on special offer till 30 September from Sight and Sound in the UK for 
> £799, including a very nice and sturdy leather carrying case.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 13 Aug 2015, at 21:59, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, how much does this display cost? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listers,
>>> 
>>> It's arrived: my new tiny, 14 cell refreshable Braille display produced by 
>>> HIMS.  Nervous as I was ordering it from Sight and Sound in the UK, I feel 
>>> I'm gonna love it!  it's small and the cells are nice.  I've already paired 
>>> it with my iphone.  And by the way, this Braille display can remember 5 
>>> different bluetooth devices to which one connects.  It also has a USB 
>>> connection.
>>> 
>>> I know it's going to be a steep learning curve and that I'm going to be 
>>> asking lots of questions but I've already managed to read using Smart 
>>> Beetle from Voice Dream Reader and ibooks.  The pleasure of reading quietly 
>>> is intense!  I'm delighted.
>>> 
>>> At present it seems that I have to keep my iphone or ipad unlocked in order 
>>> to use my Smart Beetle. Is this the case in your experience too?  Also, 
>>> Smart Beetle can connect via bluetooth either as a Braille display or as a 
>>> bluetooth keyboard emulator and it can also work in combo mode, i.e. you 
>>> can have it connected as a Braille display and as a bluetooth keyboard for 
>>> more functionality.  I can navigate home screens using it, open and close 
>>> applications, read text, I've written a text message using it, I can use 
>>> the rotor.  However, when in Mail, I couldn't find a way of deleting an 
>>> email I didn't want to read and I was wondering whether there may be an 
>>> equivalent of a swiping gesture that Braille display could imitate.  I just 
>>> wonder if you could share what else you  can do with your refreshable 
>>> Braille displays and iPhone?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any suggestions
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: facebook messenger audio messages

[Corey Cook]

I think it has a lot to do with the way the phone is held

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2015, at 2:46 AM, Kevin Wassmer  wrote:
> 
> Just so you all know. I do not like the limit of 1 minute on Face Book
> Messinger. I think that is very old fashond. Now, with the unlimited
> amount of memory, you should be able to record how much you want. Just
> like you can with I messenger voice messaging or voice memos that you
> can send as an attached file to your text messages.
> 
>> On 8/13/15, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
>> Maybe that’s why it seems to cut off though it happens at times after only a
>> few seconds; maybe it’s how I’m holding the phone.
>> 
>> From: hebertisaa...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: facebook messenger audio messages
>> 
>> Hi the limit according to my research is up to 1 minute that you can record
>> a voice message in facebook messenger.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  Hello, I have been experimenting with Messenger’s voice option; sometimes
>> it does well while at other times it cuts off my message meaning that when
>> you play it back, it loops and resays something or you hear nothing. Does
>> anyone have any tips and tricks for this, and is there a message limit as
>> far as length of time for the message?
>>  Are there any other good alternatives, and does the other person have to
>> have the alternative option?
>> 
>>  Thank you.
>> 
>>  Paul
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IPhone 5s And SIRI Voice

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Hi friends,

I saw a demo of the new IOS9 and it seems that we will be able to use the SIRI 
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A colleague has a beta of IOS9 and it seems really good but there is a mention 
of being able to do this with IOS8.4, does anyone know if this is true or not?




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RE: Upgrading iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My guess is that they will be included, but I don't think anybody can guaranty 
this. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgrading iOS

Will the crucial iOS 8.4.1 fixes for iCloud Music Library be included in the 
final iOS 9? The current iOS 9 beta certainly does not include these fixes. 
Harry

 

> On 14 Aug 2015, at 04:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> One last thing I forgot. You got along without iOS 8, why not wait a month or 
> 5 weeks and then upgrade to iOS 9, this way you do just one upgrade and you 
> are up to the newest OS.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jennie Facer
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Upgrading iOS
> 
> Hi Jo,
> 
> When you umpgrade, you won't lose your settings and passwords. The only time 
> you'll do that is if you have to restore your phone. I suggest upgrading over 
> the air for this reason. 
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I've stayed put on iOS 7 but have encountered an app that just 
>> might persuade me to go up to iOS 8.4 a few of them actually. I'd 
>> like to keep my folders in tact. How can I go about preserving my 
>> current settings and passwords? Thanks in advance for your help.
>> 
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RE: App has been submitted to Applevis

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What format are these books in when you download them? You mention many are DRM 
free so are they MP3? What about those which are not DRM free, what happens if 
I can cel my membership, can I still play them?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

somewhere between 10 and 30 dollars give or take.

 

But that is before your discount, if you take out 1 of their plans, and they 
have sales and special offers.

 

Dave and Maria.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 4:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

What is the average price for popular novels from some of the authors they 
mention? You can just mention the regular prices, I can do the 50% or 40% off 
math.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

hi, first of all, the free books are not in the public domain, and they are 
from known authors.

 

for 5 dollars per month, you get 1 book at 50 percent discount, and for 7 
dollars you get 3 books per month at 50 percent off.

 

in our opinion, the prices are reasonable, and also 90 percent of the novels 
are DRM free.

 

Dave and Maria.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:51 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: App has been submitted to Applevis

 

Hi Alan,

 

I just read the Applevis review and it mentions the website of the service 
which is www.AudioBooksNow.com  . I had a look at 
the website and found a “How it works” link, here is what they say:

 

How It Works

Join - Just $5/month gets you 50% off the first audiobook you purchase each 
month, Club Pricing Plan (free trial).

Save - Keep saving up to 40% off every audiobook you purchase during the month 
at the normal club price.

Listen - Stream or download your purchases from our website or use our free 
smartphone or tablet apps.

Relax - No long term commitments, you can cancel your Club Pricing Plan at any 
time. It's that simple!   Start Free 
Trial

Plus, choose from 100's of   
free audiobooks with activation of Club Pricing Plan.

 

Get audiobooks you love for less. Our Club Pricing Plan gives you 50% off your 
first audiobook each month and up to 40% off everything else. And, if you do 
not use your 50% discount, it automatically rolls over to the next month.

 

We offer a large selection of bestselling and classic titles. James Patterson, 
Vince Flynn, Nora Roberts, John Grisham, Kay Hooper, Iris Johansen, Stephen 
King, David Baldacci, Dean Koontz, Catherine Coulter, Janet Evanovich, Nicholas 
Sparks, J.D. Robb, Michael Connelly, John Sandford, Harlan Coben are just some 
of the many popular authors we offer.

 

Get them how you want them.

Stream or download your audiobook purchases directly from our website or 
download them through our free apps. Bookmarks are continuously synced with our 
servers so you can go from listening to your audiobooks on the way to work 
through your smartphone, to listening on your computer when you get to the 
office without skipping a beat.

AudiobooksNow apps are compatible with most Android and Apple devices. 
Streaming from our website can also be done through all major web browsers 
including Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer, and Safari.

 

Maybe somebody who has purchased the $5 membership can post some book prices, 
but I don’t see how this is less expensive than Audible where you pay $14.95 a 
month and get a book for free or $22.95 for 2 books. Yes, you only pay $5, but 
you then buy a book at 50% off (whatever that price would be) and I am sure the 
hundreds of free books they mention are public domain books which you can get 
for free from many websites or services.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

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