Re: quick tip about 10.3 for those who ran beta

[pholdstock]

Beta 7 is exactly the same as the release everyone got today anyway isn't it? 
So there is no benefit to doing that unless you're wanting to opt out of 
receiving future betas.  

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> On 28 Mar 2017, at 06:12, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> In order to get the final version everyone got today you have to delete the 
> beta profile from your phone and reboot. then go to software updates and 
> you'll get it. Just wanted to pass this along.
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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[rajmund]

Hi,
I, too, am glad, that that's been fixed.

Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: "Andy Baracco"  I like the fact that the email is opening in the body now, 
rather than the subject matter header or whatever you call it.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:47 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:





   I did have to delete the beta profile.
   The 10.3 release is quite a bit larger than the beta was.
   I literally just finished the update, so Other than the email 
opening in the body instead of the header, I cannot say what is 
different from 10.2.1.

   Richard



   On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Mary Otten  
wrote:



 Hi Sieghard,
 According to an article I saw today, I think it was in 
MacWorld or maybe 9 to 5 Mac, if you want to get the official 
10.3 release, you need to get rid of the beta profile on your 
phone or other device, and then restart your device, at which 
point, the official 10.3 release will show up as being available.  
I have not tried it yet, so I can't speak for it, but it makes 
sense.  Then of course, if you wanted to start using betas again 
when Ios 11 comes out, you would have to go through the process 
of getting the beta profile reinstalled.

 Mary



 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
 wrote:



   As the subject says, iOS 10.3 is now "public".

   I guess last week's public beta 7 is also the public 
release because I was running the public beta and I don't have 
an update today on my 6S Plus.  My wife who was on 10.2.1 with 
her 6S does have iOS 10..3 today.




   Regards,

   SieghardI don't



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   Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:02 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: IOS 10.3 is now public



   Is this a beta?



   Andy



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 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:20 AM

 Subject: IOS 10.3 is now public



 Hi all,

 new public version of IOS is available.  You can find 
more information at
 
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-news/apple-releases-ios-1

03-bringing-number-voiceover-fixes-also-introducing-least

 Kind regards,
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Re: Crafting Kingdom

[englishrider91]

Jewel, have you tried double-tapping on the lumber yard? After doing so, you 
should come to a button that says purchase for x amount of gold, or something 
like that.

If you're still having trouble, just write to the list and I'm sure someone 
will respond.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> I downloaded Crafting Kingdom last night, and to say that I am, somewhat, 
> underwhelmed would be 
> giving it a rating that, at the present state of affairs, it does not warrant.
> For starters, how do I silence the:  I hesitate to use the word:  *music and 
> I am told to start by 
> buying the lumber yacht with part of the 1,000 gold doubloons that I have 
> been gifted, but how do I 
> buy the yacht  which is loaded to the gunwales with all the lumber I will 
> need to create my first 
> fabulous craft items?
> 
>   Jewel 
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quick tip about 10.3 for those who ran beta

[Gordon]

In order to get the final version everyone got today you have to delete 
the beta profile from your phone and reboot. then go to software updates 
and you'll get it. Just wanted to pass this along.


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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, I liked the way it used to be.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:46 PM
  Subject: Re: IOS 10.3 is now public


  I like the fact that the email is opening in the body now, rather than the 
subject matter header or whatever you call it.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:47 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:




I did have to delete the beta profile.
The 10.3 release is quite a bit larger than the beta was.
I literally just finished the update, so Other than the email opening in 
the body instead of the header, I cannot say what is different from 10.2.1.
Richard



On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


  Hi Sieghard, 
  According to an article I saw today, I think it was in MacWorld or maybe 
9 to 5 Mac, if you want to get the official 10.3 release, you need to get rid 
of the beta profile on your phone or other device, and then restart your 
device, at which point, the official 10.3 release will show up as being 
available. I have not tried it yet, so I can't speak for it, but it makes 
sense. Then of course, if you wanted to start using betas again when Ios 11 
comes out, you would have to go through the process of getting the beta profile 
reinstalled.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


As the subject says, iOS 10.3 is now “public”.

I guess last week’s public beta 7 is also the public release because I 
was running the public beta and I don’t have an update today on my 6S Plus. My 
wife who was on 10.2.1 with her 6S does have iOS 10.3 today.



Regards,

SieghardI don’t 



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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:02 PM
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Subject: Re: IOS 10.3 is now public



Is this a beta?



Andy



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  From: Tea Turkovic 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:20 AM

  Subject: IOS 10.3 is now public



  Hi all, 

  new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information 
at 
  
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-news/apple-releases-ios-103-bringing-number-voiceover-fixes-also-introducing-least

  Kind regards, 
  Tea Turkovic

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Anyone using Workplace by Facebook with and have some tips?

[Jodie Hoger]

Hi List,
My organisation has started using Workplace by Facebook for all communications. 
Whilst I get around it, I was wondering if anyone has some great tips or even 
some guidelines with using the app with VO?
Thanks, 
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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

I like the fact that the email is opening in the body now, rather than the 
subject matter header or whatever you call it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:47 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I did have to delete the beta profile.
> The 10.3 release is quite a bit larger than the beta was.
> I literally just finished the update, so Other than the email opening in the 
> body instead of the header, I cannot say what is different from 10.2.1.
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sieghard, 
>> According to an article I saw today, I think it was in MacWorld or maybe 9 
>> to 5 Mac, if you want to get the official 10.3 release, you need to get rid 
>> of the beta profile on your phone or other device, and then restart your 
>> device, at which point, the official 10.3 release will show up as being 
>> available. I have not tried it yet, so I can't speak for it, but it makes 
>> sense. Then of course, if you wanted to start using betas again when Ios 11 
>> comes out, you would have to go through the process of getting the beta 
>> profile reinstalled.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>>> As the subject says, iOS 10.3 is now “public”.
>>> I guess last week’s public beta 7 is also the public release because I was 
>>> running the public beta and I don’t have an update today on my 6S Plus. My 
>>> wife who was on 10.2.1 with her 6S does have iOS 10.3 today.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> SieghardI don’t
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Andy Baracco
>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.3 is now public
>>>  
>>> Is this a beta?
>>>  
>>> Andy
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Tea Turkovic
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:20 AM
>>> Subject: IOS 10.3 is now public
>>>  
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-news/apple-releases-ios-103-bringing-number-voiceover-fixes-also-introducing-least
>>> 
>>> Kind regards, 
>>> Tea Turkovic
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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Richard Turner]

I did have to delete the beta profile.
The 10.3 release is quite a bit larger than the beta was.
I literally just finished the update, so Other than the email opening in the 
body instead of the header, I cannot say what is different from 10.2.1.
Richard


On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard,
According to an article I saw today, I think it was in MacWorld or maybe 9 to 5 
Mac, if you want to get the official 10.3 release, you need to get rid of the 
beta profile on your phone or other device, and then restart your device, at 
which point, the official 10.3 release will show up as being available. I have 
not tried it yet, so I can't speak for it, but it makes sense. Then of course, 
if you wanted to start using betas again when Ios 11 comes out, you would have 
to go through the process of getting the beta profile reinstalled.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

As the subject says, iOS 10.3 is now “public”.
I guess last week’s public beta 7 is also the public release because I was 
running the public beta and I don’t have an update today on my 6S Plus. My wife 
who was on 10.2.1 with her 6S does have iOS 10.3 today.

Regards,
SieghardI don’t

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

Is this a beta?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Tea Turkovic
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:20 AM
Subject: IOS 10.3 is now public

Hi all,

new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-news/apple-releases-ios-103-bringing-number-voiceover-fixes-also-introducing-least

Kind regards,
Tea Turkovic
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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Mary Otten]

Hi Sieghard, 
According to an article I saw today, I think it was in MacWorld or maybe 9 to 5 
Mac, if you want to get the official 10.3 release, you need to get rid of the 
beta profile on your phone or other device, and then restart your device, at 
which point, the official 10.3 release will show up as being available. I have 
not tried it yet, so I can't speak for it, but it makes sense. Then of course, 
if you wanted to start using betas again when Ios 11 comes out, you would have 
to go through the process of getting the beta profile reinstalled.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> As the subject says, iOS 10.3 is now “public”.
> I guess last week’s public beta 7 is also the public release because I was 
> running the public beta and I don’t have an update today on my 6S Plus. My 
> wife who  was on 10.2.1 with her 6S does have iOS 10.3 today.
>  
> Regards,
> SieghardI don’t
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Is this a beta?
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Tea Turkovic
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:20 AM
> Subject: IOS 10.3 is now public
>  
> Hi all, 
> 
> new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at 
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RE: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As the subject says, iOS 10.3 is now “public”.
I guess last week’s public beta 7 is also the public release because I was 
running the public beta and I don’t have an update today on my 6S Plus. My wife 
who was on 10.2.1 with her 6S does have iOS 10.3 today.

Regards,
SieghardI don’t

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Is this a beta?

Andy

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Subject: IOS 10.3 is now public

Hi all,

new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at
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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Andy Baracco]

Is this a beta?

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tea Turkovic 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 10:20 AM
  Subject: IOS 10.3 is now public


  Hi all, 

  new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at 
  
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IPhone 7 for sale, permission granted by list moderator

[PHILLIP TRACY]

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Re: Crafting Kingdom

[Robert Doc Wright]

you change settings in option
- Original Message - 
From: "Jewel" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:39 PM
Subject: Crafting Kingdom


I downloaded Crafting Kingdom last night, and to say that I am, somewhat, 
underwhelmed would be
giving it a rating that, at the present state of affairs, it does not 
warrant.
For starters, how do I silence the:  I hesitate to use the word:  *music 
and I am told to start by
buying the lumber yacht with part of the 1,000 gold doubloons that I have 
been gifted, but how do I
buy the yacht  which is loaded to the gunwales with all the lumber I will 
need to create my first

fabulous craft items?

  Jewel

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Re: Headphone Recommendations

[Christopher Chaltain]

Bose has some pretty amazing noise canceling technology. I don't have a 
pair of Bose headphones, but I'm fortunate enough to have a Bose outlet 
store nearby. I tried a pair of ear buds, and I was amazed at how well 
they canceled noise, including intermittent sounds like the salesmen or 
my wife yelling at me. I don't know what model they were, but I'm sure 
they were a pair of pretty high end ear buds.


On 26/03/17 21:01, Dan Rathburn wrote:



Hello,

I'm looking for recommendations for some noise cancelling headphones to
use with my iPhone 6 plus.  I'm particularly intrested in headphones
that do well in dealing with intermittent noises such as dogs barking,
car horns and such.  I've never used so I don't know what  kind of
results to expect.

Thanks,

Dan

The nice thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it
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Re: Headphone Recommendations

[Beverly Hunter]

What is the name of the headphones?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> It depends what you want to spend on them.  I usually go to Ben's
> bargains and find my headphones there.  currently, I am using $300
> headphones that I bought for $30.
> 
> 
> these cool headphones, and people have commented on how cool they
> look, cup entirely over the ear and muffle out all noises.  electronic
> noise cancellation filters out many other external sounds.  It is so
> good that I can be in a subway tunnel here in Chicago and 15 feet away
> from the train and not be interrupted in listening to my audio book or
> podcast.  I barely hear the eight car train in front of me with
> hundreds of people on board.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 3/26/17, Dan Rathburn  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm looking for recommendations for some noise cancelling headphones to use
>> 
>> with my iPhone 6 plus.  I'm particularly intrested in headphones that do
>> well in dealing with intermittent noises such as dogs barking, car horns and
>> 
>> such.  I've never used so I don't know what  kind of results to expect.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> The nice thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or
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Crafting Kingdom

[Jewel]

I downloaded Crafting Kingdom last night, and to say that I am, somewhat, 
underwhelmed would be 
giving it a rating that, at the present state of affairs, it does not warrant.
For starters, how do I silence the:  I hesitate to use the word:  *music and I 
am told to start by 
buying the lumber yacht with part of the 1,000 gold doubloons that I have been 
gifted, but how do I 
buy the yacht  which is loaded to the gunwales with all the lumber I will need 
to create my first 
fabulous craft items?

   Jewel 

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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Daniel Miller]

Works perfectly fine here. 

Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 5:12 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> yup this is a problem in system apps. Using an iphone 6s plus
> 
>> On 3/27/17, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> please report to apple.
>> 
>> I already did it ...
>> 
>> thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Às 21:30 de 27/03/2017, Shai escreveu:
>>> Hello,
>>> I notice this bug using VoiceOver when I attempt to force touch on the
>>> Messages app to get a menu. When I do, the choices are gone and the
>>> messages app opens right away in the composition window. Although not
>>> a serious bug for sure, it is annoying.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 3/27/17, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
 
 
 Mary, this is real in most apps that support 3D force touch.
 Especially in native system apps.
 for me, this is a general bug.
 
 cheers.
 
 
 Às 19:37 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
> Hi Mario,
> What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to
> report
> it if I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different,
> which
> seems  strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you
> are.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mary.
>> On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
>> I would not do it without being sure.
>> For me this issue is very serious.
>> 
>> With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this
>> issue.
>> 
>> please let's all report this issue to apple.
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
>>> Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I
>>> use the 3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not
>>> noticed this problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might
>>> be
>>> app specific. So before you go reporting something based on what you
>>> read, you might want to try it and see for yourself.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel 
 wrote:
 
 
 hi.
 
 
 please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.
 
 
 list of 1 items
 • Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is
 unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering
 the
 3D Touch menu,
 you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu
 item by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move
 VoiceOver focus. However,
 anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate
 a
 menu item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being
 triggered
 with no
 input from you.
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[lenron brown]

yup this is a problem in system apps. Using an iphone 6s plus

On 3/27/17, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>
>
> please report to apple.
>
> I already did it ...
>
> thanks.
>
>
> cheers.
>
>
> Às 21:30 de 27/03/2017, Shai escreveu:
>> Hello,
>> I notice this bug using VoiceOver when I attempt to force touch on the
>> Messages app to get a menu. When I do, the choices are gone and the
>> messages app opens right away in the composition window. Although not
>> a serious bug for sure, it is annoying.
>>
>>
>> On 3/27/17, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Mary, this is real in most apps that support 3D force touch.
>>> Especially in native system apps.
>>> for me, this is a general bug.
>>>
>>> cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Às 19:37 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
 Hi Mario,
 What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to
 report
 it if I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different,
 which
 seems  strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you
 are.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Mary.
> On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
> I would not do it without being sure.
> For me this issue is very serious.
>
> With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this
> issue.
>
> please let's all report this issue to apple.
> thanks.
> cheers.
>
>
> Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
>> Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I
>> use the 3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not
>> noticed this problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might
>> be
>> app specific. So before you go reporting something based on what you
>> read, you might want to try it and see for yourself.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> hi.
>>>
>>>
>>>  please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.
>>>
>>>
>>> list of 1 items
>>> • Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is
>>> unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering
>>> the
>>> 3D Touch menu,
>>> you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu
>>> item by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move
>>> VoiceOver focus. However,
>>> anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate
>>> a
>>> menu item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being
>>> triggered
>>> with no
>>> input from you.
>>> list end
>>>
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>>> cheers.
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mário Gabriel]

please report to apple.

I already did it ...

thanks.


cheers.


Às 21:30 de 27/03/2017, Shai escreveu:

Hello,
I notice this bug using VoiceOver when I attempt to force touch on the
Messages app to get a menu. When I do, the choices are gone and the
messages app opens right away in the composition window. Although not
a serious bug for sure, it is annoying.


On 3/27/17, Mário Gabriel  wrote:



Mary, this is real in most apps that support 3D force touch.
Especially in native system apps.
for me, this is a general bug.

cheers.


Às 19:37 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Hi Mario,
What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to report
it if I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different, which
seems  strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you
are.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:



Hi Mary.
On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
I would not do it without being sure.
For me this issue is very serious.

With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.

please let's all report this issue to apple.
thanks.
cheers.


Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I
use the 3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not
noticed this problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be
app specific. So before you go reporting something based on what you
read, you might want to try it and see for yourself.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel 
wrote:


hi.


 please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.


list of 1 items
• Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is
unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the
3D Touch menu,
you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu
item by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move
VoiceOver focus. However,
anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a
menu item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered
with no
input from you.
list end

thank you all.
cheers.

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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Shai]

Hello,
I notice this bug using VoiceOver when I attempt to force touch on the
Messages app to get a menu. When I do, the choices are gone and the
messages app opens right away in the composition window. Although not
a serious bug for sure, it is annoying.


On 3/27/17, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>
>
>
> Mary, this is real in most apps that support 3D force touch.
> Especially in native system apps.
> for me, this is a general bug.
>
> cheers.
>
>
> Às 19:37 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
>> Hi Mario,
>> What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to report
>> it if I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different, which
>> seems  strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you
>> are.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mary.
>>> On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
>>> I would not do it without being sure.
>>> For me this issue is very serious.
>>>
>>> With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.
>>>
>>> please let's all report this issue to apple.
>>> thanks.
>>> cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
 Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I
 use the 3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not
 noticed this problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be
 app specific. So before you go reporting something based on what you
 read, you might want to try it and see for yourself.
 Mary


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel 
> wrote:
>
>
> hi.
>
>
> please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.
>
>
> list of 1 items
> • Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is
> unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the
> 3D Touch menu,
> you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu
> item by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move
> VoiceOver focus. However,
> anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a
> menu item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered
> with no
> input from you.
> list end
>
> thank you all.
> cheers.
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Re: what about brail sluggishness in ios10.3

[Paul Richard McGann]

erytthing is very well.


-Original Message- 
From: Scott Davert

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Subject: Re: what about brail sluggishness in ios10.3

It's the same as in 10.2.1, but improved over 10.2.

HTH,
Scott

On 3/27/17, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

Hi folks

How is brail acting and reacting in the latest new ios version? Is typing
with a brail device still so sluggish?
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mary Otten]

OK, I'm able to duplicate this using the email app, trying to access it with 3D 
Touch from the home screen, the app just opens. It's not supposed to do that. I 
never do get the shortcut menu. However, when trying to share an app from the 
home screen, specifically the "Dark Sky" app, the share function work fine. 
Three times in a row.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> This is a bug that I reported to apple during the beta.  Where it happens the 
> most, is when you try to share an app from the home screen.  It appears to 
> open up the choices, but then goes away.
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mario,
>> What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to report it 
>> if I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different, which seems 
>>  strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you are.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary.
>>> On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
>>> I would not do it without being sure.
>>> For me this issue is very serious.
>>> 
>>> With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.
>>> 
>>> please let's all report this issue to apple.
>>> thanks.
>>> cheers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
 Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I use 
 the 3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not noticed 
 this problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be app 
 specific. So before you go reporting something based on what you read, you 
 might want to try it and see for yourself.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> hi.
> 
> 
>  please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.
> 
> 
> list of 1 items
> • Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is 
> unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 3D 
> Touch menu,
> you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu item 
> by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver 
> focus. However,
> anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a 
> menu item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered 
> with no
> input from you.
> list end
> 
> thank you all.
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mário Gabriel]

Yes my friend, that's exactly what happens.
 and result in one of the menu items being triggered with no input from 
you.

cheers.


Às 19:50 de 27/03/2017, Kliphton Miller escreveu:

This is a bug that I reported to apple during the beta.  Where it happens the 
most, is when you try to share an app from the home screen.  It appears to open 
up the choices, but then goes away.

On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Mario,
What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to report it if 
I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different, which seems  
strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you are.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:



Hi Mary.
On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
I would not do it without being sure.
For me this issue is very serious.

With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.

please let's all report this issue to apple.
thanks.
cheers.


Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I use the 
3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not noticed this 
problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be app specific. So 
before you go reporting something based on what you read, you might want to try 
it and see for yourself.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:


hi.


   please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.


list of 1 items
• Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is unreliable. 
Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 3D Touch menu,
you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu item by 
touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver focus. However,
anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a menu 
item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered with no
input from you.
list end

thank you all.
cheers.

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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mário Gabriel]

Mary, this is real in most apps that support 3D force touch.
Especially in native system apps.
for me, this is a general bug.

cheers.


Às 19:37 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Hi Mario,
What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to report it if 
I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different, which seems  
strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you are.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:



Hi Mary.
On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
I would not do it without being sure.
For me this issue is very serious.

With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.

please let's all report this issue to apple.
thanks.
cheers.


Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I use the 
3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not noticed this 
problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be app specific. So 
before you go reporting something based on what you read, you might want to try 
it and see for yourself.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:


hi.


please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.


list of 1 items
• Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is unreliable. 
Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 3D Touch menu,
you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu item by 
touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver focus. However,
anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a menu 
item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered with no
input from you.
list end

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Re: what about brail sluggishness in ios10.3

[Scott Davert]

It's the same as in 10.2.1, but improved over 10.2.

HTH,
Scott

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what about brail sluggishness in ios10.3

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

How is brail acting and reacting in the latest new ios version? Is typing with 
a brail device still so sluggish?
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RE: Headphone Recommendations

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What brand and model are these headphones you describe?

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Kelly Pierce
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Headphone Recommendations

It depends what you want to spend on them.  I usually go to Ben's bargains and 
find my headphones there.  currently, I am using $300 headphones that I bought 
for $30.


these cool headphones, and people have commented on how cool they look, cup 
entirely over the ear and muffle out all noises.  electronic noise cancellation 
filters out many other external sounds.  It is so good that I can be in a 
subway tunnel here in Chicago and 15 feet away from the train and not be 
interrupted in listening to my audio book or podcast.  I barely hear the eight 
car train in front of me with hundreds of people on board.

Kelly

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> horns and
>
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>
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Kliphton Miller]

This is a bug that I reported to apple during the beta.  Where it happens the 
most, is when you try to share an app from the home screen.  It appears to open 
up the choices, but then goes away.
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mario,
> What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to report it 
> if I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different, which seems  
> strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you are.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mary.
>> On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
>> I would not do it without being sure.
>> For me this issue is very serious.
>> 
>> With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.
>> 
>> please let's all report this issue to apple.
>> thanks.
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
>>> Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I use 
>>> the 3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not noticed this 
>>> problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be app specific. So 
>>> before you go reporting something based on what you read, you might want to 
>>> try it and see for yourself.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
 
 
 hi.
 
 
   please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.
 
 
 list of 1 items
 • Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is 
 unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 3D 
 Touch menu,
 you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu item 
 by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver focus. 
 However,
 anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a 
 menu item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered 
 with no
 input from you.
 list end
 
 thank you all.
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Re: Headphone Recommendations

[Kelly Pierce]

It depends what you want to spend on them.  I usually go to Ben's
bargains and find my headphones there.  currently, I am using $300
headphones that I bought for $30.


these cool headphones, and people have commented on how cool they
look, cup entirely over the ear and muffle out all noises.  electronic
noise cancellation filters out many other external sounds.  It is so
good that I can be in a subway tunnel here in Chicago and 15 feet away
from the train and not be interrupted in listening to my audio book or
podcast.  I barely hear the eight car train in front of me with
hundreds of people on board.

Kelly

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> Hello,
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> I'm looking for recommendations for some noise cancelling headphones to use
>
> with my iPhone 6 plus.  I'm particularly intrested in headphones that do
> well in dealing with intermittent noises such as dogs barking, car horns and
>
> such.  I've never used so I don't know what  kind of results to expect.
>
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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Mary Otten]

Yes, I believe VoiceOver did announce incoming calls. I don't get a lot of 
incoming calls, and I have a tone for each individual in my contact who calls 
me. Then I have a standard tone for those who aren't in my contacts. But yes, I 
do recall hearing VoiceOver announcement.
Mary


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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Tea Turkovic  wrote:
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> In beta versions of IOS 10.3, did VoiceOver announce you about incomming 
> calls in the native phone app? 
> 
> 27.3.2017. u 19:43, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
>> Interestingly, I have been using the beta all along, on my iPhone 7 Plus, 
>> and I have not noticed the one new voiceover bug that they talk about in 3D 
>> Touch.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tea Turkovic  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-news/apple-releases-ios-103-bringing-number-voiceover-fixes-also-introducing-least
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mary Otten]

Hi Mario,
What app or apps are you experiencing this in? I would be happy to report it if 
I experienced it. So obviously, either my phone is different, which seems  
strange, or I'm not using the same apps with 3D Touch that you are.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Hi Mary.
> On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
> I would not do it without being sure.
> For me this issue is very serious.
> 
> With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.
> 
> please let's all report this issue to apple.
> thanks.
> cheers.
> 
> 
> Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:
>> Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I use 
>> the 3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not noticed this 
>> problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be app specific. So 
>> before you go reporting something based on what you read, you might want to 
>> try it and see for yourself.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hi.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> list of 1 items
>>> • Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is 
>>> unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 3D 
>>> Touch menu,
>>> you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu item 
>>> by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver focus. 
>>> However,
>>> anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a menu 
>>> item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered with no
>>> input from you.
>>> list end
>>> 
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi Mary.
On my iPhone 7, this issue is real.
I would not do it without being sure.
For me this issue is very serious.

With this, is already the second time that we are faced with this issue.

please let's all report this issue to apple.
thanks.
cheers.


Às 18:52 de 27/03/2017, Mary Otten escreveu:

Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I use the 
3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not noticed this 
problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be app specific. So 
before you go reporting something based on what you read, you might want to try 
it and see for yourself.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:


hi.


please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.


list of 1 items
• Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is unreliable. 
Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 3D Touch menu,
you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu item by 
touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver focus. However,
anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a menu 
item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered with no
input from you.
list end

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Re: Crafty Kingdom and battery

[goshawk on horseback]

yes, it does really eat the battery, I have also noticed this very much 
since playing it.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Chaffin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: Crafty Kingdom and battery



I have found that the game Crafty Kingdom is a big drain on my battery.  I 
have also noticed that the back of my phone gets really warm while playing 
the game.  Has anyone else noticed this.
Now I will say that I do have several items producing at the same time in 
the game.  When I say several things, I mean 12 to 18 things.

I have tried restarting my phone, and these things only happen when Crafty 
Kingdom is running.

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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Tea Turkovic]

In beta versions of IOS 10.3, did VoiceOver announce you about incomming calls 
in the native phone app? 

27.3.2017. u 19:43, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
> Interestingly, I have been using the beta all along, on my iPhone 7 Plus, and 
> I have not noticed the one new voiceover bug that they talk about in 3D Touch.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tea Turkovic  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at 
>> https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-news/apple-releases-ios-103-bringing-number-voiceover-fixes-also-introducing-least
>> 
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Re: New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mary Otten]

Let's make sure we actually experience the bug before we report it. I use the 
3D Touch a lot in the notification section, and I have not noticed this 
problem. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But it might be app specific. So 
before you go reporting something based on what you read, you might want to try 
it and see for yourself.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> hi.
> 
> 
>please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.
> 
> 
> list of 1 items
> • Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is 
> unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 3D 
> Touch menu,
> you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu item by 
> touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver focus. 
> However,
> anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a menu 
> item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered with no
> input from you.
> list end
> 
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Nearby Explorer User Guide

[G. Stoodley]

I am looking for a copy of the Nearby Explorer user guide that I can keep on 
an audioplayer. On the APH website, I could not find a downloadable version 
of the guide. Is there a downloadable version of the Nearby Explorer User 
Guide, or do you just have to copy the pages from the APH website?

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Re: IOS 10.3 is now public

[Mary Otten]

Interestingly, I have been using the beta all along, on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I 
have not noticed the one new voiceover bug that they talk about in 3D Touch.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tea Turkovic  wrote:
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> Hi all, 
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> new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at 
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New Accessibility-Related Bugs Introduced in iOS 10.3

[Mário Gabriel]

hi.


please, Let's go All report this serious issue to apple.


list of 1 items
• Behavior of Shortcut Menus triggered on app icons by 3D Touch is 
unreliable. Things appear to work as expected if, after triggering the 
3D Touch menu,
you keep your finger pressed to the screen and drag to locate a menu 
item by touch or perform a very distinct swipe gesture to move VoiceOver 
focus. However,
anything else (such as lifting your finger and then trying to locate a 
menu item by touch) may result in one of the menu items being triggered 
with no

input from you.
list end

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Crafty Kingdom and battery

[Chris Chaffin]

I have found that the game Crafty Kingdom is a big drain on my battery.  I have 
also noticed that the back of my phone gets really warm while playing the game. 
 Has anyone else noticed this.
Now I will say that I do have several items producing at the same time in the 
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I have tried restarting my phone, and these things only happen when Crafty 
Kingdom is running.

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IOS 10.3 is now public

[Tea Turkovic]

Hi all, 

new public version of IOS is available. You can find more information at 
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-news/apple-releases-ios-103-bringing-number-voiceover-fixes-also-introducing-least

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Re: dice world wish

[MamaPeach]

I get five every day for playing and also reaching higher levels and winning 
the different games gives me even more. I don't watch the videos at all to 
earn gold, unless the developer asks the testers to test that particular 
feature of Dice World.


-Original Message- 
From: rajmund

Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: dice world wish

I'm currently just below 1500.  It's harder to get gold nowadays,
than it used to be.  Although if I had, say, 5 gold, I would
probably
most likely not play bonus games.  And I would most likely be
aware of that myself...  But I do see where you're coming from.
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Re: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

[Kliphton Miller]

I saw that also, let’s me know what is most popular.
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Also, I just got an Email from pCloud with a summary of last week’s activity. 
>  I’ve never seen anything like that from DropBox.
>  
> Nice to know how many downloads were done in the first few days of my using 
> the service.
>  
> I might like this in spite of the difficulty getting the link to paste 
> correctly, grin.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not
>  
> So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can send 
> a link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do not, I 
> repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or from 
> someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but dropbox 
> gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not signed in.  
> JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up with my link, 
> so here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want something, just 
> email me off list
> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX 
> 
>  
> Enjoy!
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RE: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

[Richard Turner]

Also, I just got an Email from pCloud with a summary of last week’s activity.  
I’ve never seen anything like that from DropBox.

Nice to know how many downloads were done in the first few days of my using the 
service.

I might like this in spite of the difficulty getting the link to paste 
correctly, grin.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliphton Miller
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can send a 
link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do not, I 
repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or from 
someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but dropbox 
gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not signed in.  
JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up with my link, so 
here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want something, just email 
me off list
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX

Enjoy!
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RE: Special request

[Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)]

My user name for Dice World is gertie1973, and I play everything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joney
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special request

I play you! And you beat me… Often. :-) I'm Joney 595, for those who wish to 
play. I play anything. I lose most, but I have fun.
Joney
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On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Louise Johnson 
mailto:herclou...@shaw.ca>> wrote:
Hi can you repost her user name as I enjoy three’s also and will play pig 
sometimes.

I am herclouise for anyone to ask to play games also and I also enjoy 1, 4 24 
and farcol

Louise and princess Kiara


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joney
Sent: March 25, 2017 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special request

She has been so pleased that someone is playing her. You guys have made her 
day. She was getting tired of beating Grammy. :-)
Joney
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On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:56 PM, MamaPeach 
mailto:mamape...@charter.net>> wrote:
Oh I feel for her. I know I go crazy when I don’t have internet. Looking 
forward to her return. She is beating the socks off me right now in 3’s.

From: Joney
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special request

Hi:
Yes. She is all right. She is at her other grandmothers house. She doesn't have 
Internet there, so she can't play. She severely pouting. You should hear from 
her tomorrow evening. :-) Spring break will be over then

Joney
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He will lead you through it."

On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:24 PM, MamaPeach 
mailto:mamape...@charter.net>> wrote:
Hi Joney,
Just wondering if your granddaughter is okay. You asked us to play with her, 
but she isn't taking her turn. Just wanting to make sure she was okay.

On 20/03/17 10:09 PM, Joney wrote:



Hi all:
I have a special request for those who play Dice World. Could some of
you, who enjoy playing pig, and threes, I have my granddaughter to your
list? We're trying to get her some players, and haven't found anybody
but me that she plays with. I would thank you very much for your
assistance here. She's a smart seven-year-old who's wanting to play and
enjoys it.Dicer1989376 :-)


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Re: dice world wish

[rajmund]

I'm currently just below 1500.  It's harder to get gold nowadays, 
than it used to be.  Although if I had, say, 5 gold, I would 
probably
most likely not play bonus games.  And I would most likely be 
aware of that myself...  But I do see where you're coming from.

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- Original Message -
From: "MamaPeach" But he runs out of gold during the game, not before the game.  
Just saying
that although one person may have over 7,000 gold as I do, not 
everyone has
that much and can run out in the middle of the game, so they 
cannot use the
bonus roles.  They can earn more gold by watching videos of 
course, but if
you forget to do that, and you are in a game using bonus rolls, 
and you
don't have gold, then you can't use them and the other person can 
use the
gold that they do have.  Yes, a bit unfair, but that is how it 
was set up.


-Original Message-
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: dice world wish

Hi,
But in that case, if I know I don't have gold, I'd reject the
game...

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Re: dice world wish

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But he runs out of gold during the game, not before the game. Just saying 
that although one person may have over 7,000 gold as I do, not everyone has 
that much and can run out in the middle of the game, so they cannot use the 
bonus roles. They can earn more gold by watching videos of course, but if 
you forget to do that, and you are in a game using bonus rolls, and you 
don't have gold, then you can't use them and the other person can use the 
gold that they do have. Yes, a bit unfair, but that is how it was set up.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: dice world wish

Hi,
But in that case, if I know I don't have gold, I'd reject the
game...

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Re: dice world wish

[rajmund]

Hi,
But in that case, if I know I don't have gold, I'd reject the 
game...


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- Original Message -
From: "MamaPeach" Yes, but for instance, I play my boyfriend and there are many 
times he has
run out of gold during our game and he cannot take advantage of 
the bonus
rolls until he earns more gold.  I still have gold so I can use 
the bonus
rolls.  If you do not have the gold available, you cannot pay the 
1 gold that

is needed to use a bonus roll.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: dice world wish

Hello,
But if the game is accepted, you have the same amount of rolls.
I guess what I'm saying is, you either both have, or neither of
you have bonus.

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Re: dice world wish

[MamaPeach]

Yes, but for instance, I play my boyfriend and there are many times he has 
run out of gold during our game and he cannot take advantage of the bonus 
rolls until he earns more gold. I still have gold so I can use the bonus 
rolls. If you do not have the gold available, you cannot pay the 1 gold that 
is needed to use a bonus roll.


-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: dice world wish

Hello,
But if the game is accepted, you have the same amount of rolls.
I guess what I'm saying is, you either both have, or neither of
you have bonus.

Sent from a BrailleNote


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Re: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

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No they do not.  Nor do they have to have an account to upload to your folder
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you know if the other person you are sharing with has to also have cloud?  
> In the past, when I’ve tried to share something with drop box and they didn’t 
> have it, it was a royal pain for them to get the files..
> 
> Thanks!
> Cait
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:21 AM, Kliphton Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can 
>> send a link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do 
>> not, I repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or 
>> from someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but 
>> dropbox gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not 
>> signed in.  JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up 
>> with my link, so here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want 
>> something, just email me off list
>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX 
>> 
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Re: A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
Do you know if the other person you are sharing with has to also have cloud?  
In the past, when I’ve tried to share something with drop box and they didn’t 
have it, it was a royal pain for them to get the files..

Thanks!
Cait

> On Mar 27, 2017, at 6:21 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can send 
> a link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do not, I 
> repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or from 
> someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but dropbox 
> gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not signed in.  
> JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up with my link, 
> so here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want something, just 
> email me off list
> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX 
> 
> 
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A feature pCloud has, that drop box does not

[Kliphton Miller]

So, not only can you send someone a link to download things, but you can send a 
link to anyone to upload things directly to your folder, and you do not, I 
repeat do not need an account to upload or download directly to or from 
someones pCloud folder.  It may have improved since last I tried, but dropbox 
gives you a headache when downloading something and you are not signed in.  
JMO.  Anyway, I got 2 months free because of people signing up with my link, so 
here is the link to my lists of what I have.  If you want something, just email 
me off list
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZurUUZ98BYXaD6mCBUGO7ujSVYc4PMOfmX 


Enjoy!

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