RE: Problems with iTunes for Windows and new 7s

2017-06-14 Thread denise avant
Hello,
I do have the i-cloud controller installed. I'm going to try a couple other 
suggestions provided by other list members. Thanks.


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M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Problems with iTunes for Windows and new 7s

Hello Denise,

Your previous message on this topic was successfully posted to the list.

For the most comprehensive list of steps in order to complete your desired 
configuration, you should perform a Google search.

However, given that you already have iTunes on your PC, the broad steps, in 
order to see your iCloud items in Outlook in Windows 10 are as follows:

1.
>From the Windows Start/search menu, type in the search string that begins with 
>the word Apple.  In the results list, you should see an item listed as Apple 
>Software Update.

2.
Run the Apple software updater and select to install the Windows iCloud Control 
Panel.

3.
Follow the prompts to install the control panel and then restart your computer. 
 

4.
Upon restart, you will be given options in the iCloud control panel that will 
allow you to configure iCloud with Microsoft Outlook.

Again, I strongly suggest that you search for how to configure the iCloud 
control panel in Windows in order to get a very detailed list of step-by-step 
instructions.

Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
denise avant
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:48 PM
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Subject: Problems with iTunes for Windows and new 7s

Hello all,
I attempted to send this message before. I don’t know if it made it to the list.
In any case, I am having some problems with iTunes for Windows. I am running 
the latest version of iTunes, and the latest version of windows 10.
When I go to my account under iTunes, it has my name and Apple id as being 
unavailable.  I have successfully authorized my computer, and I have signed 
into iTunes, as I can see all of my purchased songs from I-Cloud.
Also, I maintained my contacts on my new phone. They are in I-cloud. But I 
can’t seem to get them to sync with outlook. They definitely did when I had the 
6s)+. I am running the latest version of JAWS. If anyone can be of assistance, 
I would appreciate it. Thank you.



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Re: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

2017-06-14 Thread Russ Kiehne
I'm using neospeech Kate.  I wonder if that makes a difference.  I'll try it 
again.


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

I tried it yesterday evening with Neospeech James, set to .4 second delay, 
and it's perfect.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 13, 2017, at 6:37 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

I tried that setting with neospeech and didn't seem to notice any 
difference.  It did work with acapella.


-Original Message- From: William James
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

Hello Mary,
And voice dream reader, open audio settings, advanced audio settings while 
a text book is loaded. You can make your changes there. It does not work 
with the iOS voices, but it does work with the other voices you can 
purchase.



Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus

On Jun 12, 2017, at 7:03 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


As a tax payer, I'm not too worried about people who aren't blind using 
BARD. I do think it's important though that the NLS work with publishers, 
especially audio book publishers, to keep BARD books from being too 
widely distributed and impacting the sales of audio books.



On 10/06/17 13:03, Marie wrote:
I don't believe the NLS books should ever be readable in any other app 
besides the Bard Mobile. This is a service given to the handicapped in 
the US and it is our taxes which pay for it.

Marie


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

I doubt it will ever read NLS books.
Voice dream Reader doesn't either.

Richard


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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

At this point in time, you can't use it to read books from NLS?

-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

It looks interesting.
I did not check what they charge for the non-iOS voices.
Voice Dream has many great features too that I'm sure they drew on in 
their

development.
If you wait a little while, you may find Voice Dream Reader also will 
allow

for adjusting the pause between sentences.

At this point, I'll stick with Voice Dream as I like its layout, but 
this is

a good option for a lot of folks.  It is good to see they work with
Bookshare as well.

Though, I have to question their claim to having the largest accessible
library...

Richard


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Of Lev
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 4:05 PM
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Subject: Dolphin easy reader, your thoughts?

Hi,

there is newe book reader on appstore called dolphin easy reader, free,
it only requires of login using a dolphin account or sign up for a new
one, also free of charge.


What I find interesting is that while on this new app you can set up a
longer pause in between sentnces (using ios voices), the last VDR update
is uncapable of doing the same thing.


yeah, of course this app needs to be improved, but checking it out
rapidly its interface and settings is really basic and complete at the
same time for being free of charge.


This feature, add a longer pause in between sentences (for ios voices)
is very helpful if you are trying to learn another language.




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Re: Best app for walking directions?

2017-06-14 Thread Donald Raikes
I haven't installed any of the gps apps yet, but my son and his family
moved in just a few blocks away so is there an app which will allow me
to know when I reach their address if I decide to walk there by
myself?

On 6/13/17, Julian  wrote:
> Nearby explorer can also be similarly configured to speak as much or as
> little as you want. It all depends on your needs. That's what I really like
> about this app.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Larry. I didn't know that.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jenifer, you can silence any information in blindsquare that you don't
>>> want
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:42 AM
>>> To: iPhone List 
>>> Subject: Best app for walking directions?
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> I have nearby explorer... I have blind square... and of course apple
>>> maps.
>>> What have you all found to be the best for walking directions? I hate how
>>> nearby explorer gives me so much extraniou information. I want to be able
>>> to just say where I want to go... and if I want poi's I'll ask for them.
>>> Lol.
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Jen
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: New siri voices in IOS 11

2017-06-14 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello, iOS 9, seen the capability right from the first dev beta.
> On 13 Jun 2017, at 23:07, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> They very publically said during the keynote that there is both a new 
> american male and female voice and they played them. Especially the new 
> female voice sounds very good and I would be very surprised if it would not 
> be available for Voiceover. SIRI voices have been available in iOS 9 and iOS 
> 10 (maybe even iOS 8, can't remember if that is when it started) and I doubt 
> they suddenly decide to not make them available as Voiceover voices any more.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> From: 'Ming' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:29 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: New siri voices in IOS 11
> 
> hi all!
> anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
> does the voices also can work in voice over as well?
> 
> 
> thanks!
> Ming
> 
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Re: New siri voices in IOS 11

2017-06-14 Thread rajmund

hi,
actually, we can discuss that there are new voices, since apple has 
showed it to us. now, whether they can be used as voiceover voices, 
those can't be discussed.


On 13/06/17 6:11 PM, Jenifer Barr wrote:

Hi Ming.
Even if this is true people beta testing IOS 11 cannot discuss. I am not one of 
them that's why I'm replying.
Have a great day.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:29 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
wrote:

hi all!
anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
does the voices also can work in voice over as well?


thanks!
Ming

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Re: Best app for walking directions?

2017-06-14 Thread Harry Bell
The free Lazarillo app seems to offer this with directions from Google or Apple 
maps too. Less features than paid for apps. 
Harry

> On 14 Jun 2017, at 19:12, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> I haven't installed any of the gps apps yet, but my son and his family
> moved in just a few blocks away so is there an app which will allow me
> to know when I reach their address if I decide to walk there by
> myself?
> 
>> On 6/13/17, Julian  wrote:
>> Nearby explorer can also be similarly configured to speak as much or as
>> little as you want. It all depends on your needs. That's what I really like
>> about this app.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Larry. I didn't know that.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
 wrote:
 
 Jenifer, you can silence any information in blindsquare that you don't
 want
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:42 AM
 To: iPhone List 
 Subject: Best app for walking directions?
 
 Hi all.
 I have nearby explorer... I have blind square... and of course apple
 maps.
 What have you all found to be the best for walking directions? I hate how
 nearby explorer gives me so much extraniou information. I want to be able
 to just say where I want to go... and if I want poi's I'll ask for them.
 Lol.
 Thoughts?
 Jen
 
 
 
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Re: New siri voices in IOS 11

2017-06-14 Thread christopher hallsworth
And I'm not, *yet*. All I will say is, I have just signed up.
> On 13 Jun 2017, at 18:11, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ming.
> Even if this is true people beta testing IOS 11 cannot discuss. I am not one 
> of them that's why I'm replying. 
> Have a great day.
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:29 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi all!
>> anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
>> does the voices also can work in voice over as well?
>> 
>> 
>> thanks!
>> Ming
>> 
>> msn/window live messenger
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Re: iPhone bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2017-06-14 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello, no home button, but control-option-h and/or caps lock-h will simulate 
the home button, i.e. pressing the combination once just brings up the home 
screen, pressing it twice quickly activates app switcher, pressing it three 
times, if set up, toggles VoiceOver on or off.
> On 6 Jun 2017, at 11:41, Husna Begum  wrote:
> 
> hi,
>  
> does this keyboard have an equivalent of a home button?
>  
> thanks, Husna
>  
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> Hi again. If you are not thinking in purchasing  another  apple device. I 
> think the apple bluetooth keyboard wil work great for you! you can perform 
> the iscren finger  gestures and so on. I have  evensome commands that you can 
> use when you get it, and other I can teach you how to use.. I think the Apple 
> Store  have a new one, but i have the   old one, but let me know which one 
> you get and  I can teach you how to use it! For example, with the apple  
> bluetooth keyboard, if you press F1 and F2 you can lower and increse 
> brightness instead of doing it wit with the swipe up and down gesture. but 
> you can also use voiceover the rotor with the apple bluetooth keyboard  and 
> use voiceover  rotor, and be able to increase Voiceover speaking rate and 
> more! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
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>> there some that do only some of them? I’m not too skillful about using my 
>> iPhone. In addition, tapping is often a problem due to my neuropathy.
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RE: Best app for walking directions?

2017-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Let's assume there addressis 2312 Pine Street.
Make sure your phone is unlocked, then tell SIRI "Give me walking directions to 
2312 Pine Street".
SIRI will open Maps and set that up, just start walking in the right direction 
and you get turn by turn directions and it will announce when you have reached 
your destination.
You can also ask SIRI at any time "What is my current location" and it will 
respond either with an address like "You are at 1256 Pine Street" or it may 
give you a range of addresses "1201 to 1299 Pine Street"..
Just give it a try, often if for some reason I'm not sure if maybe I took a 
wrong turn somewhere I just ask SIRI to tell me my location and especially if I 
am in an area that normally I am familiar with and maybe I just wasn't paying 
attention that is usually good enough to orient myself by.


Regards,
Sieghard
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Subject: Re: Best app for walking directions?

The free Lazarillo app seems to offer this with directions from Google or Apple 
maps too. Less features than paid for apps. 
Harry

> On 14 Jun 2017, at 19:12, Donald Raikes  wrote:
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> I haven't installed any of the gps apps yet, but my son and his family 
> moved in just a few blocks away so is there an app which will allow me 
> to know when I reach their address if I decide to walk there by 
> myself?
> 
>> On 6/13/17, Julian  wrote:
>> Nearby explorer can also be similarly configured to speak as much or 
>> as little as you want. It all depends on your needs. That's what I 
>> really like about this app.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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>>> Thanks Larry. I didn't know that.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
 
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 Jenifer, you can silence any information in blindsquare that you 
 don't want
 
 
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 Subject: Best app for walking directions?
 
 Hi all.
 I have nearby explorer... I have blind square... and of course 
 apple maps.
 What have you all found to be the best for walking directions? I 
 hate how nearby explorer gives me so much extraniou information. I 
 want to be able to just say where I want to go... and if I want poi's I'll 
 ask for them.
 Lol.
 Thoughts?
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RE: New siri voices in IOS 11

2017-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Did you seriously pay money to sign up for a developer account? In two or at 
the most 3 weeks you could get the first public beta for free.

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christopher hallsworth
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: New siri voices in IOS 11

And I'm not, *yet*. All I will say is, I have just signed up.
> On 13 Jun 2017, at 18:11, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi Ming.
> Even if this is true people beta testing IOS 11 cannot discuss. I am not one 
> of them that's why I'm replying. 
> Have a great day.
> Jen
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>> hi all!
>> anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
>> does the voices also can work in voice over as well?
>> 
>> 
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Re: New siri voices in IOS 11

2017-06-14 Thread lenron brown
At some point I would love to get a dev account but I would really
love to start developing for IOS. Anyways I hope the siri voice sounds
good as a voice over voice because the current ones just don't sound
all that hot.

On 6/14/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Did you seriously pay money to sign up for a developer account? In two or at
> the most 3 weeks you could get the first public beta for free.
>
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> And I'm not, *yet*. All I will say is, I have just signed up.
>> On 13 Jun 2017, at 18:11, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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>> Hi Ming.
>> Even if this is true people beta testing IOS 11 cannot discuss. I am not
>> one of them that's why I'm replying.
>> Have a great day.
>> Jen
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:29 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone
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>>> hi all!
>>> anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
>>> does the voices also can work in voice over as well?
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks!
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Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

2017-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

5.  Added Uber to Route type options
The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity
You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

Countries and regions available as of 2017:
USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: New siri voices in IOS 11

2017-06-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The small sample they played during the keynote sounded amazing, especially the 
female SIRI voice.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New siri voices in IOS 11

At some point I would love to get a dev account but I would really love to 
start developing for IOS. Anyways I hope the siri voice sounds good as a voice 
over voice because the current ones just don't sound all that hot.

On 6/14/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Did you seriously pay money to sign up for a developer account? In two 
> or at the most 3 weeks you could get the first public beta for free.
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:42 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: New siri voices in IOS 11
>
> And I'm not, *yet*. All I will say is, I have just signed up.
>> On 13 Jun 2017, at 18:11, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ming.
>> Even if this is true people beta testing IOS 11 cannot discuss. I am 
>> not one of them that's why I'm replying.
>> Have a great day.
>> Jen
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:29 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone 
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>>>
>>> hi all!
>>> anyone know that in IOS 11 it has some new siri voices.
>>> does the voices also can work in voice over as well?
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> Ming
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