Fwd: [Electronics-Talk] FW: [GTTsupport] How iOS 13 Will Save Your iPhone’s Battery (by Not Fully Charging It)

[blindathlete10]

Here's an interesting article I got from another list about the new charging 
Algorithm in iOS 13

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> From: Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk 
> Date: June 18, 2019 at 8:50:12 PM EDT
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
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> Cc: Pamela Dominguez 
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] FW: [GTTsupport] How iOS 13 Will Save Your 
> iPhone’s Battery (by Not Fully Charging It)
> Reply-To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 
> 
> 
> Madison, I think you keep bottom posting.  Because I don't see a message from 
> you.  I just see the copy of the message that should probably have been under 
> yours.  Pam.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Madison Martin via Electronics-Talk
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> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] FW: [GTTsupport] How iOS 13 Will Save Your 
> iPhone’s Battery (by Not Fully Charging It)
> 
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> 
> 
> From: gttsupp...@groups.io [mailto:gttsupp...@groups.io] On Behalf Of Debbie 
> Gillespie
> Sent: June-18-19 5:47 AM
> To: gttsupp...@groups.io
> Subject: [GTTsupport] How iOS 13 Will Save Your iPhone’s Battery (by Not 
> Fully Charging It)
> 
> 
> 
> A simple way to charge batteries. iPhone. iOS 13. Will keep your battery at 
> 80%. But it’s good in the long run.
> https://www.howtogeek.com/423451/how-ios-13-will-protect-your-iphones-battery-by-charging-to-80/
> 
> 
> How iOS 13 Will Save Your iPhone’s Battery (by Not Fully Charging It)
> 
> 
>  Josh Hendrickson 
>  @canterrain
> June 4, 2019, 8:00am EDT
> 
> 
>  Kaspars Grinvalds/Shutterstock
> 
> Lithium-ion batteries, like those in iPhones, have a longer usable life if 
> you don’t charge above 80%. But, to last the day, you probably want a full 
> charge. With iOS 13, Apple may give you the best of both worlds.
> 
> 
> iOS 13 Will Charge to 80% and Wait
> 
> 
> Apple announced   iOS 13 at WWDC 
> 2019. Buried in the   
> list of extra features was a note about “battery optimization.” Apple says it 
> will be “reducing the time your iPhone spends fully charged.” Specifically, 
> Apple will prevent your iPhone from charging above 80% until you need it.
> 
> You might be wondering why Apple wants to keep your iPhone at 80% charge. 
> It’s all about the way Lithium-ion battery technology works.
> 
> 
> Lithium-ion Batteries Are Complicated
> 
> 
> Apple
> 
> Batteries, in general, are complicated technology. The fundamental goal is to 
> cram as much energy as possible into a small a space as possible, then safely 
> release that energy without causing a fire or explosion. It’s a juggling act 
> of priorities.
> 
> Lithium-ion batteries make things extra complicated by being rechargeable. 
> Earlier rechargeable technology suffered from the memory effect—essentially, 
> batteries lost track of their maximum capacities if you constantly recharged 
> them after only partially discharging them. Lithium-ion batteries don’t have 
> that problem. If you’re still draining your battery to empty before 
> recharging it, 
> 
>  you should stop. You’re damaging your battery’s health.
> 
> RELATED: 
> 
>  Debunking Battery Life Myths for Mobile Phones, Tablets, and Laptops
> 
> 
> You Shouldn’t Keep Your Battery at 100%
> 
> 
> One cycle consists of depleting an amount that adds to 100%. Apple
> 
> Lithium-ion batteries charge to 80% faster than previous battery technologies 
> did. For most people, 80% is enough to make it through the rest of the day, 
> so it gives you what you need sooner. It also doesn’t have the dreaded 
> “memory effect” that causes the battery to lose track of its full capacity.
> 
> However, instead of having a memory issue, Li-ion has a maximum charge cycle 
> issue. You can only recharge the battery so many times, and then it starts to 
> lose capacity. It’s not merely charging zero to 100% that counts as a full 
> charge. If you charge from 80 to 100% five days in a row, those 20% charges 
> add up to one “full charge cycle.”
> 
> Not only does draining the battery to zero and then charging to 100% hurt 
> your battery in the long run, always charging the battery isn’t good for it 
> either. By staying near 100%, you risk overheating the battery (which can 
> cause damage). Additionally, to prevent your battery from “overcharging,” it 
> stops the charge for a 

ear.ly

[Gordon]

I haven't seen anyone talk about ear.ly out here, so I wanted to let you 
all know about it. It's free and an audio version of facebook live or 
periscope that's blind friendly. It's actually pretty cool because you 
can stream live and invite anyone who's listening to join you as a 
speaker. There are so many different ways this app could be beneficial. 
Some people use it to go live when they're walking around outside, but 
it could be used for demonstrating products or technology you have.


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How do I remove a bedtime alarm

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Hi how do I completely remove a bedtime alarm.
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Bluetooth now paired on my phone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I went to the audiologist. We did finally get it fixed, and
I'm not sure how we were off. He thinks with an update, but
I had long sense done 12.3, and this was recent. Well, it's
fixed now, main thing.

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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

There's an "other" option after the list of available networks. That's
the one you want.

On 6/18/19, Dave Mitchel  wrote:
> I’ll take the knowledge. good luck on it.
> Thanks
> Dave
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RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)

[janet gross]

Sieghard and all,
Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time.  
I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using 
the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using 
it.  please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often.  
I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason 
I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if 
they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off.  Maybe some 
sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the 
screen curtain feature.  Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted 
person wants to use an accessibility feature.  Although, I have noticed most of 
them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or 
like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the 
screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen.  They 
might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want 
to, so be it!
So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about 
accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it.  We 
all are certainly entitled to our own opinions.
Please let’s not turn this in to bashing.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted 
people know about the screen curtain?
I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town 
where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly 
folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that 
includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to 
show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my 
employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when 
Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a 
button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times 
until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, 
but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or 
“your screen doesn’t work”.
I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted 
people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on 
and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is 
displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky 
and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them 
about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted people and is 
completely a foreign concept for them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub 
from this list)

Hi Marcio,
How do you know sighted people don’t know about Screen Curtain?? I think you 
and others  are sadly mistaken when you think sighted people don’t know 
anything about the Screen Curtain?, but each to their own!  LOL!
Janet

From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 12:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from 
this list)

Carolyn,

How could they turn off Screen Curtain? They haven't a clue, and there is 
nothing to see.
Wondering the very same thing. Given that a sighted person will use the screen 
to do what we do using the screen reader, how could they do it without anything 
to see?

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA Starboy


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RE: how do you update 3 digit code and expiration date for credit card?

[janet gross]

Sieghard,
Ok, I just seen this message, and I feel I should reply just one more time 
regarding this card issue.  What I said was I know they, meaning Arlene and 
Wayne, were not talking about Apple pay.  I did not say I wasn’t talking about 
Apple pay.   Once again the whole point was regarding the picker, and that is 
what I was trying to help them with.
PS, this is my last comment on this.
Have a wonderful day!

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do you update 3 digit code and expiration date for credit card?

Hello Janet,

You say you were not talking about adding a card to Apple Pay, but you wrote “I 
ask this because I just added my credit card to Apple Pay”
Sorry if I don’t know you mean one thing when you write another.
In any case, Mark already provided the correct information by explaining how 
some people can’t update this information on their device but must do so by 
logging in to the Apple Id website. I am also part of that group because I have 
no option to update my card’s expiry date or card verification code on my 
iPhone 8, the information is greyed out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do you update 3 digit code and expiration date for credit card?

Sieghard,
Yes, I know they are not adding or changing Apple  pay.  The picker in changing 
expiration and security codes for credit cards have changed in iOS 12, and that 
is what I was talking about, and I am surprised if you don’t know this.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do you update 3 digit code and expiration date for credit card?

They are not trying to add their card to Apple Pay, they want to update the 
expiry date and card verification code for the card on file. I took a quick 
look on my iPhone and didn’t see it as obvious although I am sure it can be 
done, but usually I do this on my PC with Jaws by going to 
http://AppleID.apple.com, then I sign in and I have never had an issue there. 
But, as I said, I am sure Apple Accessibility can walk them through it and if 
necessary even do screen sharing with them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 2:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do you update 3 digit code and expiration date for credit card?

HI Arlene and Wayne,
What phone are you using? I ask this because I just added my credit card to 
Apple Pay, although, I got a message saying my card was already added to Apple 
Pay, after I added all the information, but my point is I was able to enter the 
expiration date and the 3 number security code from the card, after the camera 
took a piture of my credit card.
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how do you update 3 digit code and experation date for credit card?

Our credit card was just updated. the card number is the same, though the 
experation date and 3 digit code is different. No matter what Wayne does there 
doesn't seem anyway to up date those numbers, and he was in the update area. 
Either the numbers are dimmed  and then just where you think you could even add 
another card where it says okay, it won't go to where you could input  another 
card, it just won't go. You can't expand and use the combo boxes. He tried 3 
different screen readers, when he was trying to update the card on the 
computer, and we were logged into our account. So it's rather like going in 
circles and we've done it on the computer andphone several times over, so I 
hope someone knows how to change or edit and type in the new experation date 
and the 3 digit code. Thank you for the help with this.

Arlene and Wayne

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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

[Dave Mitchel]

I’ll take the knowledge. good luck on it. 
Thanks 
Dave 

From: J.Cyr 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

I think your way is generally easier, lets just say doing this without an 
audience will make me happier.  And if I find out how to do it off list I'll be 
happy to share the details!
Joy
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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

[J.Cyr]

I think your way is generally easier, lets just say doing this without an 
audience will make me happier.  And if I find out how to do it off list I'll be 
happy to share the details!
Joy

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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

[Dave Mitchel]

oh, ok. I have never heard of this but do understand it. I hope it will work 
for you and if so can you let me know how to do it? 
Thanks, Dave 

From: J.Cyr 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

Thank you Dave, I do understand that being near enough for the WIFI network to 
show  automatically and then joining it is a simple way to add a network.  
However, the option to manually enter the information (network name and 
password) is available on other devices and if it is available on the IPhone I 
would really prefer to use it in this specific instance.

Joy


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RE: will be sending back my Logitech keyboard

[Merv Keck]

You should consider the Logitech K480. It is easy to pair. Big and heavy 
compared to the 780. Has no dongle. Also has no numeric keypad if you want one 
of those. But if you don't need a numeric keypad it is only about $22 and can 
be used on 3 devices. I use mine with the iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple TV.
Merv


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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard  and it 
doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in my USB dongle.  I 
got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and tried to pair it to my 
iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I bought this keyboard to help me 
with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going to talk to apple because I think my phone 
is broken.  I went into settings and tried to get my phone to where I don't 
have to keep typing in my passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even 
though I typed in my passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive calls, I'd 
sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good thing about my phone is 
the quality of phone calls.  I like that very much.
--
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Re: Adding A New WIFI Network

[J.Cyr]

Thank you Dave, I do understand that being near enough for the WIFI network to 
show  automatically and then joining it is a simple way to add a network.  
However, the option to manually enter the information (network name and 
password) is available on other devices and if it is available on the IPhone I 
would really prefer to use it in this specific instance.

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Re: Reading credit card

[Sandy Finley]

Wells Fargo will put braille on your credit card and debit card if requested. 
It is not a second card;  it is the reeal deal and it is wonderful!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Tony  wrote:
> 
> If you are asking about your own cards, some banks will provide a second 
> plain card with all numbers in braille.
> 
> Tony
> 
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> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Which apps are you comfortable using to read a credit/debit card? For 
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RE: Reading credit card

[Tony]

If you are asking about your own cards, some banks will provide a second plain 
card with all numbers in braille.

Tony


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Hi all, 

Which apps are you comfortable using to read a credit/debit card? For example, 
is Seeing AI safe to use for this task?

Thank You, 
Traci 

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RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have done all of that - going to audiologist this afternoon to try to get it 
done. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeff Clark
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Carolyn,

My wife has the Otticon hearing aids and she pairs it through the accessibility 
settings. Go to settings, general, accessibility, MFI hearing device. Click on 
Otticon1. There should be a button that shows up to pair. You need to do the 
left and right aids separately.

Hope this helps.
Jeff



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Carolyn,

You might try posting your issue to blindhearingaidus...@groups.io. You can 
subscribe using the following link:

blindhearingaidusers+subscr...@groups.io

Alan Lemly 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

I have turned off the phone completely, but that has not worked. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Hi Wayne,

 

That�s a great suggestion.  I forgot to mention that to Carolyn.  I often have 
to do this when I cannot get something paired.

 

Les

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene  
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

 

Carolyn, what I'm getting ready to tell you may not work, in fact, you may 

have already tried it already. Hardware and software can be strange and not 

work, so here's what I had to do with something a bit more simpler, having 

to do with a bluetooth keyboard. But I could not get that thing to pare and 

it was setting right in the bluetooth devices. So I turned the bluetooth 

keyboard off, and I decided to tell the iphone to forget about the device. 

then I turned the bluetooth on the iphone, off and then back on. and then I 

turned the bluetooth keyboard back on, and the iphone was ready to pare. It 

gave me a code to type in on the bluetooth keyboard, and I typed it in, and 

hit enter and I was done. It began working perfectly then. Give that  a try, 

and if that doesn't work I'll see what I could do to come up with something 

else. I hope it works for you.

 

Wayne

 

- Original Message - 

From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 

Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2019 2:16 PM

Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

 

 

I put in new batteries. It must have paired with them, named them Oticon, 

said zero percent, but I can't get Bluetooth connected with my aids either 

in Bluetooth or in MFI. I am afraid I'm going to have to end up going to the 

audiologists - most inconvenient at this particular time in my life. Thanks 

for helping.

 

Best regards,

 

Carolyn

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 

Of Les Kriegler

Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 7:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

 

Well, it wouldn�t hurt to try that.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 

> wrote:

> 

> I got closer, at least got the hearing name up. But, it still won't pair. 

> Do you think I need to change batteries?

> 

> Best regards,

> 

> Carolyn

> 

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

> Behalf Of Les Kriegler

> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 10:56 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

> 

> Well, if you already haven�t done so, try powering off your phone. Then 

> power off the aids. Power the aids back on and start the phone and try the 

> process again.

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 

>> wrote:

>> 

>> I do have them on. It says searching and in progress, but nothing 

>> happens.

>> 

>> Best regards,

>> 

>> Carolyn

>> 

>> 

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

>> Behalf Of Les Kriegler

>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 10:36 AM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>> Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

>> 

>> Hi Carolyn,

>> 

>> What I do 

RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I believe that they will be able to solve it, even if it means sending my 
hearing aids back to the factory. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Carolyn, turning bluetooth off and back on or restarting the phone might not 
work. Even the instructions I gave you, might not work. If you tried them and 
they didn't work, then unless I come up with something else before you go to 
the audiologist, hopefully they could solve it. If you do try the instructions, 
I hope they work.
If you need help with the instructions, let me know.
Wayne


- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.


I have turned Bluetooth off, have turned my phone completely off. So far, no 
trick has worked.

We're taking Jim for tests this afternoon, so will know when I can go to 
audiologist after that. I think it might take a fix from there. Thanks for 
help.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 12:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Carolyn, what I'm getting ready to tell you may not work, in fact, you may 
have already tried it already. Hardware and software can be strange and not 
work, so here's what I had to do with something a bit more simpler, having 
to do with a bluetooth keyboard. But I could not get that thing to pare and 
it was setting right in the bluetooth devices. So I turned the bluetooth 
keyboard off, and I decided to tell the iphone to forget about the device.
then I turned the bluetooth on the iphone, off and then back on. and then I 
turned the bluetooth keyboard back on, and the iphone was ready to pare. It 
gave me a code to type in on the bluetooth keyboard, and I typed it in, and 
hit enter and I was done. It began working perfectly then. Give that  a try, 
and if that doesn't work I'll see what I could do to come up with something 
else. I hope it works for you.

Wayne

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.


I put in new batteries. It must have paired with them, named them Oticon,
said zero percent, but I can't get Bluetooth connected with my aids either
in Bluetooth or in MFI. I am afraid I'm going to have to end up going to the
audiologists - most inconvenient at this particular time in my life. Thanks
for helping.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Well, it wouldn’t hurt to try that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
> wrote:
>
> I got closer, at least got the hearing name up. But, it still won't pair.
> Do you think I need to change batteries?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.
>
> Well, if you already haven’t done so, try powering off your phone. Then
> power off the aids. Power the aids back on and start the phone and try the
> process again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I do have them on. It says searching and in progress, but nothing
>> happens.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 10:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.
>>
>> Hi Carolyn,
>>
>> What I do when I pair my ages I actually put them on. See if that makes a
>> difference. I also make sure that before they pay up, I see that the
>> hearing aids are listed. It should say something like MFI hearing aids
>> not connected. I know when my aids are paired, I see my name and then
>> they are paired. But again, try putting them on and see if that makes a
>> difference.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For some reason, yesterday, when I wanted to use my music program,
>>> my hearing aids were not paired, and on two separate occasions, I
>>> tried to pair them again. Anyone have an idea what I could be doing
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> I go to MFI Hearing. I turn on 

RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I've talked to them about it too - done everything suggested - going to 
audiologist this afternoon. Thanks. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Carolyn,

You might try posting your issue to blindhearingaidus...@groups.io. You can 
subscribe using the following link:

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Alan Lemly 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

I have turned off the phone completely, but that has not worked. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

Hi Wayne,

 

That�s a great suggestion.  I forgot to mention that to Carolyn.  I often have 
to do this when I cannot get something paired.

 

Les

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene  
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

 

Carolyn, what I'm getting ready to tell you may not work, in fact, you may 

have already tried it already. Hardware and software can be strange and not 

work, so here's what I had to do with something a bit more simpler, having 

to do with a bluetooth keyboard. But I could not get that thing to pare and 

it was setting right in the bluetooth devices. So I turned the bluetooth 

keyboard off, and I decided to tell the iphone to forget about the device. 

then I turned the bluetooth on the iphone, off and then back on. and then I 

turned the bluetooth keyboard back on, and the iphone was ready to pare. It 

gave me a code to type in on the bluetooth keyboard, and I typed it in, and 

hit enter and I was done. It began working perfectly then. Give that  a try, 

and if that doesn't work I'll see what I could do to come up with something 

else. I hope it works for you.

 

Wayne

 

- Original Message - 

From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 

Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2019 2:16 PM

Subject: RE: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

 

 

I put in new batteries. It must have paired with them, named them Oticon, 

said zero percent, but I can't get Bluetooth connected with my aids either 

in Bluetooth or in MFI. I am afraid I'm going to have to end up going to the 

audiologists - most inconvenient at this particular time in my life. Thanks 

for helping.

 

Best regards,

 

Carolyn

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 

Of Les Kriegler

Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 7:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

 

Well, it wouldn�t hurt to try that.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Jun 15, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 

> wrote:

> 

> I got closer, at least got the hearing name up. But, it still won't pair. 

> Do you think I need to change batteries?

> 

> Best regards,

> 

> Carolyn

> 

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

> Behalf Of Les Kriegler

> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 10:56 AM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

> 

> Well, if you already haven�t done so, try powering off your phone. Then 

> power off the aids. Power the aids back on and start the phone and try the 

> process again.

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 

>> wrote:

>> 

>> I do have them on. It says searching and in progress, but nothing 

>> happens.

>> 

>> Best regards,

>> 

>> Carolyn

>> 

>> 

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

>> Behalf Of Les Kriegler

>> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2019 10:36 AM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>> Subject: Re: Pairing hearing aids to phone.

>> 

>> Hi Carolyn,

>> 

>> What I do when I pair my ages I actually put them on. See if that makes a 

>> difference. I also make sure that before they pay up, I see that the 

>> hearing aids are listed. It should say something like MFI hearing aids 

>> not connected. I know when my aids are paired, I see my name and then 

>> they are paired. But again, try putting them on and see if that makes a 

>> difference.

>> 

>> Sent from my iPhone

>> 

>>> On Jun 15, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 

>>> wrote:

Re: Reading credit card

[Arlene]

We had a bit better experience with scanning a credit card with voice dream 
scanner to some extent. Though recently with scanning a few credit cards we 
needed to use seeing ai, id and voice dream scanner to piece together the 
right numbers on the card.
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Lumpkin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Reading credit card


I think voice dream scanner renders  better results and it doesn't send to 
the cloud either.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading credit card

Traci, seeing ai seems to be as save as any of the other scanning apps, 
considering scanning a credit card  isn't always completely readable.

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:13 AM
Subject: Reading credit card



Hi all,

Which apps are you comfortable using to read a credit/debit card? For
example, is Seeing AI safe to use for this task?

Thank You,
Traci

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Re: Whats app

['Marcio' via VIPhone]

Robert,

Does anyone know how to remove a person from Whats app
Well, just remove the person from your contacts. It doesn't get simpler 
than that :)
Of course if you don't want to get more messages from this person them 
block them.


Cheers,
Marcio 
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Re: Ending a call with Siri?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

If using fingers is a problem, the Rivo is out. I am waiting for ios 13 beta to 
assess voice control?

> On 18 Jun 2019, at 17:41, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know much about the device, but with the Rivo be helpful in a 
> situation like this? 
> 
> Traci 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> We talked about that today. I think we got the fifty dollars worth out of 
>> the little white LG, but, he loves his iPad Pro. I think he'd like an iPhone 
>> better, and things that I know how to do like edit a contact, I could surely 
>> tell him. 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Carolyn 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 4:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri?
>> 
>> Hi Carolyn,
>> Tell your husband to get a real phone and get an iPhone.
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 2:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri?
>> 
>> Man, while ago, my sighted husband wanted some help with his Android. Poor 
>> guy, I tried to help from what I know with iPhone, but I think he ended up 
>> figuring out what he needed, after accidentally calling his nephew. 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Carolyn 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:48 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> You have to turn off the double click side/lock button in settings. 
>> 
>> Then it works without any issues.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that used to work on some of the older phones, but it does not now, 
>>> you say there is no reason why it shouldn't work, but then again there 
>>> really is no reason why it should if Apple doesn't set it up this way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:18 AM
>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
>>> 
>>> I remember seeing somewhere that you can double press the lock button and 
>>> it will hang up a phone call. I believe it works with VoiceOver. There is 
>>> no reason why it shouldn’t work.
>>> 
>>> Ed W.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:01 AM, regina alvarado  
 wrote:
 
 
 This is an interesting and timely problem. I have a friend who got her 
 screen curtain on but could not do the three finger triple tap to get it 
 off. I know this was anxiety and perhaps a little frustration mixed in 
 because when she put down the phone overnight just like that the next 
 morning she tried on a whim and it went off. However, during the time she 
 was having trouble because she had put on assisted touch I began trying to 
 figure out how to make a new gesture for her in assistive touch. When I 
 called Apple Accessibility about the problem,after I failed myself to 
 help, they told me assistive touch is not hooked (wrong word, but not sure 
 what the word is, to VO. It didn't make sense to me because people who are 
 blind sometimes have difficulty with their hands just like sighted people. 
 They told me there was no way to help the situation, but when I pointed 
 out the problem she said she would absolutely put the problem of assistive 
 touch to the engineers. So, no way of knowing if there may be a solution, 
 but at least they are looking into it. The rotor and the twist is another 
 really hard gesture to do for people with bad hands, shaking or wrist 
 problems. I myself can do it, but I cannot turn back. I have to go 
 completely through my rotor settings after using one to find a previous 
 one. No understanding of why. My wrist just won't go left. Anyway, if they 
 work on this problem and hook the answer to VO I think it can only make 
 the iPhone experience even better for more people.
 On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 
 Switch controls do not work with VoiceOver, so that option is out.
 If you cannot double tap with two fingers because of a tremor disorder, 
 maybe kissing the phone twice is a good way to go.
 Maybe, just maybe, with iOS 13 Apple will finally allow switch controls 
 with VoiceOver.
 I've complained about this from day one as some of our clients cannot use 
 iPhones because of tremors and switch controls are out because they also 
 have to have VoiceOver.
 The old between a rock and a hard place.
 

Re: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

[Holly]

Forgot to tell you the name of the camera app.  It is Halide.

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RE: Reading credit card

[Larry Lumpkin]

I think voice dream scanner renders  better results and it doesn't send to the 
cloud either.


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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading credit card

Traci, seeing ai seems to be as save as any of the other scanning apps, 
considering scanning a credit card  isn't always completely readable.
- Original Message -
From: "Traci Duncan" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:13 AM
Subject: Reading credit card


> Hi all,
>
> Which apps are you comfortable using to read a credit/debit card? For 
> example, is Seeing AI safe to use for this task?
>
> Thank You,
> Traci
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: SIRI shortcut to take a picture

[Holly]

Siegard Richard and group:

Well, I discovered this camera app that will let Siri take a picture with voice 
command.  It seems to be a very accessible app.

Just go to settings and enable the Siri shortcut, then you can tell Siri to 
trigger the shutter.  Cost is six dollars.  Might give it a try.

The app has very good ratings.

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Re: Ending a call with Siri?

[Traci Duncan]

I don’t know much about the device, but with the Rivo be helpful in a situation 
like this? 

Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> We talked about that today. I think we got the fifty dollars worth out of the 
> little white LG, but, he loves his iPad Pro. I think he'd like an iPhone 
> better, and things that I know how to do like edit a contact, I could surely 
> tell him. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mr. Ed
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 4:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri?
> 
> Hi Carolyn,
> Tell your husband to get a real phone and get an iPhone.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 2:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Ending a call with Siri?
> 
> Man, while ago, my sighted husband wanted some help with his Android. Poor 
> guy, I tried to help from what I know with iPhone, but I think he ended up 
> figuring out what he needed, after accidentally calling his nephew. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:48 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> You have to turn off the double click side/lock button in settings. 
> 
> Then it works without any issues.
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think that used to work on some of the older phones, but it does not now, 
>> you say there is no reason why it shouldn't work, but then again there 
>> really is no reason why it should if Apple doesn't set it up this way.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 9:18 AM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
>> 
>> I remember seeing somewhere that you can double press the lock button and it 
>> will hang up a phone call. I believe it works with VoiceOver. There is no 
>> reason why it shouldn’t work.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:01 AM, regina alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is an interesting and timely problem. I have a friend who got her 
>>> screen curtain on but could not do the three finger triple tap to get it 
>>> off. I know this was anxiety and perhaps a little frustration mixed in 
>>> because when she put down the phone overnight just like that the next 
>>> morning she tried on a whim and it went off. However, during the time she 
>>> was having trouble because she had put on assisted touch I began trying to 
>>> figure out how to make a new gesture for her in assistive touch. When I 
>>> called Apple Accessibility about the problem,after I failed myself to help, 
>>> they told me assistive touch is not hooked (wrong word, but not sure what 
>>> the word is, to VO. It didn't make sense to me because people who are blind 
>>> sometimes have difficulty with their hands just like sighted people. They 
>>> told me there was no way to help the situation, but when I pointed out the 
>>> problem she said she would absolutely put the problem of assistive touch to 
>>> the engineers. So, no way of knowing if there may be a solution, but at 
>>> least they are looking into it. The rotor and the twist is another really 
>>> hard gesture to do for people with bad hands, shaking or wrist problems. I 
>>> myself can do it, but I cannot turn back. I have to go completely through 
>>> my rotor settings after using one to find a previous one. No understanding 
>>> of why. My wrist just won't go left. Anyway, if they work on this problem 
>>> and hook the answer to VO I think it can only make the iPhone experience 
>>> even better for more people.
>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Switch controls do not work with VoiceOver, so that option is out.
>>> If you cannot double tap with two fingers because of a tremor disorder, 
>>> maybe kissing the phone twice is a good way to go.
>>> Maybe, just maybe, with iOS 13 Apple will finally allow switch controls 
>>> with VoiceOver.
>>> I've complained about this from day one as some of our clients cannot use 
>>> iPhones because of tremors and switch controls are out because they also 
>>> have to have VoiceOver.
>>> The old between a rock and a hard place.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide 
>>> to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an 
>>> art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and 

Re: Reading credit card

[Arlene]

Traci, seeing ai seems to be as save as any of the other scanning apps, 
considering scanning a credit card  isn't always completely readable.
- Original Message - 
From: "Traci Duncan" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:13 AM
Subject: Reading credit card



Hi all,

Which apps are you comfortable using to read a credit/debit card? For 
example, is Seeing AI safe to use for this task?


Thank You,
Traci

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Does anyone know how to remove a person from Whats app



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Hi all, 

Which apps are you comfortable using to read a credit/debit card? For example, 
is Seeing AI safe to use for this task?

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RE: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I should also mention that if you send back your Logitech keyboard and buy a 
different Bluetooth keyboard you still have to pair it just the same, all 
Bluetooth keyboards need to be first put in pairing mode, then you have to 
double tap on them in the list of Bluetooth devices on your phone and then 
enter the pairing code.
Some Bluetooth keyboards have a little recessed button you have to press to put 
it in pairing mode, some maybe have a power button which you have to push and 
hold for 3 or 5 seconds before it goes into pairing mode or, as the Logitech 
K780, you have to press and  hold one of the device selection keys, F1, F2 or 
F3 for about 5 seconds.
The nice thing about the K780 and I think just about all other Bluetooth 
keyboards is that it has a physical on/off slider switch (on the K780 it’s on 
the right side) which makes it easy to know whether they keyboard is on or off 
and if you plan to bring it with you in a backpack it’s virtually impossible 
for the keyboard to turn itself on. My first Apple Wireless keyboard had a push 
button on the side and it would constantly get pushed in the backpack and I 
basically had to unscrew the battery compartment and reverse one battery if I 
didn’t want that to happen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

Since Joshua said his Logitech has a USB dongle I assume it might be the K780 
which I also have, in fact, I have it paired to my laptop and my iPhone via 
Bluetooth and I am currently typing this email on it.
I highly doubt there is anything wrong with either his iPhone or the keyboard 
and that it is at this point user error, sorry Joshua, but if you could look up 
the model and post a message here with that information some of us could 
probably help you more. I believe you said you bought the keyboard from Amazon 
which means you would have received an order confirmation email and the exact 
model number would definitely be in that email.
The K780 is a fantastic keyboard, I personally don’t use the USB dongle since 
my laptop has Bluetooth and I find the connection works better than with the 
USB Dongle.
I also described before how to pair this keyboard, the only thing I would add 
to Richard “it just pairs” statement is that once it shows up in your list of 
Bluetooth devices and you double tap on it you have to enter a pairing code, I 
think it is 6 digits, on the keyboard. If it is the K780 then it has a numeric 
pad and that makes it very easy to enter the code which you can read on your 
iPhone with Voiceover.
I mean no offense, but I see a bit of a similarity here with when you first 
received your iPhone and you were so frustrated by the fact you couldn’t enter 
the passcode that you wanted to send it back a day or two later. Now you can’t 
pair your keyboard right away maybe assuming it should magically pair without 
following the correct procedure and it’s a bit the same thing, all I can say is 
just slow down, take a deep breath and then provide the model and ask for help 
if you can’t figure it out from information that is available online. I think 
when I once tried the USB dongle I had to go through the pairing process as 
well so it’s not like Logitech wireless USB keyboards which are prepared with 
the dongle you get and which simply work after you plug the dongle into a 
computer. I don’t want to boast or sound superior, but I have been using iOS 
devices for 10 years and I almost could guaranty that there is nothing wrong 
with the product and that those who know the steps including myself could pair 
this to your phone in less than 30 seconds.
As for not having to enter a passcode, do you want to turn off the passcode 
permanently or do you just want to set it so you only have to enter it if, for 
example, you haven’t unlocked your phone for more than a certain time? I am 
actually not sure if this can be done. I do see an option under Settings > 
Touch Id and Passcode (I have an iPhone 8 so if you have an XR this would most 
likely be called Face Id and Passcode) that says “Require Passcode” and it says 
“Immediately”. If I tap on this the only option given is “Immediately”, so not 
sure about the purpose of this. I do, however, have credit cards added to my 
phone so I can use it to make Apple Pay payments in stores and I assume it is 
possible that “Immediately” is the only option because of this.
In any case, I can’t remember if you have an iPhone 8 which has Touch Id or an 
XR or XS which has Face Id, but either way if you could get help to set up 
either method correctly you can easily and quickly unlock your iPhone without 
having to enter your passcode at least most of the time. The only time you 
would have to enter a passcode is if you reboot/turn off your phone, if you 
haven’t used it for whatever length of time it is where a passcode is required 
or if you are 

RE: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Since Joshua said his Logitech has a USB dongle I assume it might be the K780 
which I also have, in fact, I have it paired to my laptop and my iPhone via 
Bluetooth and I am currently typing this email on it.
I highly doubt there is anything wrong with either his iPhone or the keyboard 
and that it is at this point user error, sorry Joshua, but if you could look up 
the model and post a message here with that information some of us could 
probably help you more. I believe you said you bought the keyboard from Amazon 
which means you would have received an order confirmation email and the exact 
model number would definitely be in that email.
The K780 is a fantastic keyboard, I personally don’t use the USB dongle since 
my laptop has Bluetooth and I find the connection works better than with the 
USB Dongle.
I also described before how to pair this keyboard, the only thing I would add 
to Richard “it just pairs” statement is that once it shows up in your list of 
Bluetooth devices and you double tap on it you have to enter a pairing code, I 
think it is 6 digits, on the keyboard. If it is the K780 then it has a numeric 
pad and that makes it very easy to enter the code which you can read on your 
iPhone with Voiceover.
I mean no offense, but I see a bit of a similarity here with when you first 
received your iPhone and you were so frustrated by the fact you couldn’t enter 
the passcode that you wanted to send it back a day or two later. Now you can’t 
pair your keyboard right away maybe assuming it should magically pair without 
following the correct procedure and it’s a bit the same thing, all I can say is 
just slow down, take a deep breath and then provide the model and ask for help 
if you can’t figure it out from information that is available online. I think 
when I once tried the USB dongle I had to go through the pairing process as 
well so it’s not like Logitech wireless USB keyboards which are prepared with 
the dongle you get and which simply work after you plug the dongle into a 
computer. I don’t want to boast or sound superior, but I have been using iOS 
devices for 10 years and I almost could guaranty that there is nothing wrong 
with the product and that those who know the steps including myself could pair 
this to your phone in less than 30 seconds.
As for not having to enter a passcode, do you want to turn off the passcode 
permanently or do you just want to set it so you only have to enter it if, for 
example, you haven’t unlocked your phone for more than a certain time? I am 
actually not sure if this can be done. I do see an option under Settings > 
Touch Id and Passcode (I have an iPhone 8 so if you have an XR this would most 
likely be called Face Id and Passcode) that says “Require Passcode” and it says 
“Immediately”. If I tap on this the only option given is “Immediately”, so not 
sure about the purpose of this. I do, however, have credit cards added to my 
phone so I can use it to make Apple Pay payments in stores and I assume it is 
possible that “Immediately” is the only option because of this.
In any case, I can’t remember if you have an iPhone 8 which has Touch Id or an 
XR or XS which has Face Id, but either way if you could get help to set up 
either method correctly you can easily and quickly unlock your iPhone without 
having to enter your passcode at least most of the time. The only time you 
would have to enter a passcode is if you reboot/turn off your phone, if you 
haven’t used it for whatever length of time it is where a passcode is required 
or if you are unsuccessful in unlocking with Touch Id or Face Id after several 
attempts.
Of course if security is not a concern you could simply disable the passcode 
requirement and then you simply double tap where it says “Press Home to Unlock”.

Best regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: will be sending back my logitech keyboard


i did not read which logitech keyboard you have.
The ones I have used have the ability to pair with either iOS or Android, but 
there are two different buttons for pairing with each.
On mine, the two buttons are long and narrow, going from left to right, and the 
farthest right one is for iOS.
You have to hold it in for a few seconds before it shows up in your bluetooth; 
when it does, you double tap on its name in the bluetooth settings, and it just 
pairs.
Did you go through all that?
Richard

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Re: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

[Richard Turner]

i did not read which logitech keyboard you have.
The ones I have used have the ability to pair with either iOS or Android, but 
there are two different buttons for pairing with each.
On mine, the two buttons are long and narrow, going from left to right, and the 
farthest right one is for iOS.
You have to hold it in for a few seconds before it shows up in your bluetooth; 
when it does, you double tap on its name in the bluetooth settings, and it just 
pairs.
Did you go through all that?
Richard


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On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Alex Stone 
mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you sure the keyboard was in pairing mode?

Sent from my iPhone

On 18 Jun 2019, at 13:54, Joshua Hendrickson 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard
and it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in
my USB dongle.  I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and
tried to pair it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I
bought this keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going
to talk to apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into
settings and tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep
typing in my passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though
I typed in my passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive
calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good
thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very
much.
--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: will be sending back my logitech keyboard

[Alex Stone]

Are you sure the keyboard was in pairing mode?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jun 2019, at 13:54, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard
> and it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in
> my USB dongle.  I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and
> tried to pair it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I
> bought this keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going
> to talk to apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into
> settings and tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep
> typing in my passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though
> I typed in my passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
> If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive
> calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good
> thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very
> much.
> -- 
> Joshua Hendrickson
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will be sending back my logitech keyboard

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I just tried out my new wireless/ bluetooth keyboard
 and it doesn't work at all.  I turned on the switch and I plugged in
my USB dongle.  I got nothing at all.  I then unplugged my dongle and
tried to pair it to my iPhone via bluetooth, and nothing again.  I
bought this keyboard to help me with typing on my iPhone.  I'm going
to talk to apple because I think my phone is broken.  I went into
settings and tried to get my phone to where I don't have to keep
typing in my passcode everytime my phone locks itself and even though
I typed in my passcode and changed the setting to off, it didn't take.
If it weren't for the fact that I need a phone to make and receive
calls, I'd sell it for whatever money I could get.  The only good
thing about my phone is the quality of phone calls.  I like that very
much.
-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

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Reading pdf

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

If I want to strip text from a web page on my iPhone XS iOS 12.3, it seems I 
can only do so in a really roundabout way: can anyone suggest anything quicker? 
I open the web page, double tap the Share button, double tap on Save PDF to 
Books, then once in Books, I double tap on Share and then email a copy to 
myself and then open the Mail app. Open the attachment in the email, double tap 
the Share button and at long last I get the option to open in Voice Dream 
Reader! Whew! Now I can OCR and export the text into Pages or Voice Dream 
Writer in order to edit it!
Is this really the only way to get text from a web page into plain text format?
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