Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

[Rebecca Sabo]

Hi I’m sorry I’m late coming to this thread, I have a Roku TV but I have 
trouble using it by myself. I do not have the speech turn on because I do not 
like it my husband has to help me use it to navigate through it. Is there any 
other good assessable TV stand the Roko thanks Becky

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

Is there a difference in accessibility between a Roku box and a smart TV with 
Roku built-in?
I assume Larry is talking about the Roku boxes?
I really think if somebody really wants the most out of what TV and the various 
devices and services have to offer that a single device isn't necessarily the 
answer. Fortunately a lot of these things like Roku and a Fire TV stick and 
even the Google Chromecast aren't very expensive so there is no reason why one 
can't have any number of them. I agree that considering the quality of speech 
nowadays it shouldn't be that hard for Roku to include a decent TTS unless of 
course their boxes run on very low-powered processors which may make a higher 
end TTS not possible. I think I heard the voice on Roku is eSpeak, but I'm not 
totally sure. If it is or if it is similar I also would not necessarily enjoy 
using it. I use Eloquence with Jaws since I am not a fan of the high quality 
voices for daily work, but I can't stand eSpeak.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

Three taps on the options key on thr remote turns voice guide on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

Hi I’m assuming there is a setting to turn it on.
Is there a certain version that is required in order for Roku to be accessible 
for someone with no vision.
Jen

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> Roku is very accessible.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv
> 
> I had an old Apple Tv box and have cable as well but a friend of mine got a 
> smart TV recently with Roku so wonder how accessible that would be.
> I love Netflix and have Disney+ too but have to watch it on phone or iPad 
> since I don’t have a smart TV.
> Jen
> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is relevant on this list since we are still talking Apple TV 
>> and comparisons.
>> 
>> I don't think that Sanyo Mich provided a link for is a smart TV, typically a 
>> smart TV is one which has internet connectivity and uses the Android 
>> operating system, it probably has things like Netflix and YouTube 
>> preinstalled, but you can also install other apps on it.
>> If you are fairly invested in the Apple ecosystem I still think an Apple TV 
>> is a pretty good item to have and you have accessible apps for Netflix, 
>> Disney Plus (which, by the way is fantastic), YouTube and Amazon Prime Video.
>> There is also the new Apple TV service which we have not yet subscribed to 
>> and you can also subscribe to the Canadian Crave TV streaming service which 
>> offers content from HBO, Showtime and Starz.
>> If you have a cable TV subscription you can get the Crave subscription 
>> through your provider or you can subscribe independently on 
>> www.Crave.ca/subscribe. It's $9.95 a month for the basic offering, if you 
>> want all the newest HBO content and on-demand you can buy an add-on package 
>> for another $9.95 a months (you are now at $19.90) and if you want the 
>> additional Showtime package that is an extra $5.95, total package would be 
>> $25.85 a month so that is getting a bit on the expensive side.
>> If you add Netflix for $13.99 a month here in Canada and subscribe to Disney 
>> Plus annually ($89.99) you would be looking at $48.34 and if you also throw 
>> in Apple TV Plus with an annual subscription which works out to $5/mnth I 
>> think then you are at $53.34, you'll also pay applicable taxes on Crave and 
>> I think also on Disney Plus and Apple TV Plus (only Netflix somehow gets 
>> away with not charging Canadian taxes) so in the end if you are in BC you 
>> would pay close to $60 a month for all that content. Oh, and I forget, there 
>> is also CBC Gem which gives you access to all the CBC programming and I 
>> think it's $4 or so a month. But still that isn't actually all that bad 
>> considering that a decent cable package can easily cost you the same and 
>> more if you want a premium package.
>> We have Amazon Prime anyways so we can access their movies, but 
>> unfortunately it seems there is little described content here in Canada, 
>> mostly we watch Netflix and Di

Re: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

[Rebecca Sabo]

Hi where do you get those kind of headset thanks Becky

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 

Hi Moop,
Have you tried using a headset like the Logitech H800 to play your games and 
listen to music?
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Courtney Curran
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

Hi,
I know I’ve argued this point on this and other lists many times. But what I’m 
about to tell you just feeds my argument.
Anyway, last month, I purchased a Tribit Storm Box BT speaker on Amazon, which 
works perfectly, how it should, speech and sounds and music coming out of it 
instead of the phone’s speaker.
For Christmas, I received the Tribit X-Sound Go (which I asked for as a smaller 
option to the storm box, thinking oh, it will work, having speech, audio, and 
sound coming out of it instead of the phone’s speaker.) Darn if I didn’t pair 
it today, and it acts JUST like the bose soundlink micro and the Bose 
soundwear, with speech coming out of the phone (blah) and music (if I happen to 
be using the speaker for music and not just games like I often do) coming 
through the speaker. So I don’t think the problem is bose or even high end 
speakers, because this xSound Go cost $29, and the storm box (the one that 
works right) cost $45. So I’m curious what the bose speakers, the SoundBlaster 
Roar, The Pocket Kick, and now the Tribit XSound Go all have in common that the 
other Tribit Storm Box, the UE Boom, the Oraolo go, and the Zulu audio don’t 
have. I’m very confused, because there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason 
why some speakers behave properly (storm box, etc.) and some don’t (bose, SB 
Roar, X Sound Go, etc). under iOS 13. Curiouser and curiouser.
I will let apple know, and I will also contact Tribit to see if there’s a 
firmware update.
I know some of you guys like VO and system sounds coming through the phone’s 
speaker, but quite frankly, I can’t stand it. I have a really hard time hearing 
VO, because when a BT speaker is connected, you lose the ability to adjust VO 
volume, my rotor’s already at 100 percent. And I don’t know, I just don’t feel 
like restarting my device 5 6 and 7 times a day or more is very healthy, just 
to be able to play my games or whatever through a BT speaker.
Anyway, those are my observations, take them as you will. :)






Moop



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RE: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

[Richard Turner]

The Logitech H800 is available from a lot of sources, Amazon, Best Buy, 
Walmart, etc.
I'd recommend comparing prices.
Our local Best Buy had them for $61.99.  amazon had them for $59.99, but since 
I could just go and pick them up I chose to get it from Best Buy.
Walmart, on the other hand, had a price of $72 I think.

After getting my personal set, I requested one for work since I use Jaws and 
having wired headphones gets old very fast.
Since I am not on the computer constantly, a single charge gets me through a 
couple of days.

HTH,


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Sabo
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

Hi where do you get those kind of headset thanks Becky

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 

Hi Moop,
Have you tried using a headset like the Logitech H800 to play your games and 
listen to music?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Courtney Curran
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

Hi,
I know I’ve argued this point on this and other lists many times. But what I’m 
about to tell you just feeds my argument.
Anyway, last month, I purchased a Tribit Storm Box BT speaker on Amazon, which 
works perfectly, how it should, speech and sounds and music coming out of it 
instead of the phone’s speaker.
For Christmas, I received the Tribit X-Sound Go (which I asked for as a smaller 
option to the storm box, thinking oh, it will work, having speech, audio, and 
sound coming out of it instead of the phone’s speaker.) Darn if I didn’t pair 
it today, and it acts JUST like the bose soundlink micro and the Bose 
soundwear, with speech coming out of the phone (blah) and music (if I happen to 
be using the speaker for music and not just games like I often do) coming 
through the speaker. So I don’t think the problem is bose or even high end 
speakers, because this xSound Go cost $29, and the storm box (the one that 
works right) cost $45. So I’m curious what the bose speakers, the SoundBlaster 
Roar, The Pocket Kick, and now the Tribit XSound Go all have in common that the 
other Tribit Storm Box, the UE Boom, the Oraolo go, and the Zulu audio don’t 
have. I’m very confused, because there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason 
why some speakers behave properly (storm box, etc.) and some don’t (bose, SB 
Roar, X Sound Go, etc). under iOS 13. Curiouser and curiouser.
I will let apple know, and I will also contact Tribit to see if there’s a 
firmware update.
I know some of you guys like VO and system sounds coming through the phone’s 
speaker, but quite frankly, I can’t stand it. I have a really hard time hearing 
VO, because when a BT speaker is connected, you lose the ability to adjust VO 
volume, my rotor’s already at 100 percent. And I don’t know, I just don’t feel 
like restarting my device 5 6 and 7 times a day or more is very healthy, just 
to be able to play my games or whatever through a BT speaker.
Anyway, those are my observations, take them as you will. :)






Moop



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Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

[Rebecca Sabo]

hi I am looking for a new assessable TV I have the Roku TV but I can’t use it 
on my own because the speech software is not the greatest and so I have that 
turned off any suggestions would be great the only subscription right now is to 
prime and Hulu I was wondering is there any other great programs to subscribe 
to in also cesspool TV then the Roku thanks Becky

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> On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

I think this is relevant on this list since we are still talking Apple TV and 
comparisons.

I don't think that Sanyo Mich provided a link for is a smart TV, typically a 
smart TV is one which has internet connectivity and uses the Android operating 
system, it probably has things like Netflix and YouTube preinstalled, but you 
can also install other apps on it.
If you are fairly invested in the Apple ecosystem I still think an Apple TV is 
a pretty good item to have and you have accessible apps for Netflix, Disney 
Plus (which, by the way is fantastic), YouTube and Amazon Prime Video.
There is also the new Apple TV service which we have not yet subscribed to and 
you can also subscribe to the Canadian Crave TV streaming service which offers 
content from HBO, Showtime and Starz.
If you have a cable TV subscription you can get the Crave subscription through 
your provider or you can subscribe independently on www.Crave.ca/subscribe. 
It's $9.95 a month for the basic offering, if you want all the newest HBO 
content and on-demand you can buy an add-on package for another $9.95 a months 
(you are now at $19.90) and if you want the additional Showtime package that is 
an extra $5.95, total package would be $25.85 a month so that is getting a bit 
on the expensive side.
If you add Netflix for $13.99 a month here in Canada and subscribe to Disney 
Plus annually ($89.99) you would be looking at $48.34 and if you also throw in 
Apple TV Plus with an annual subscription which works out to $5/mnth I think 
then you are at $53.34, you'll also pay applicable taxes on Crave and I think 
also on Disney Plus and Apple TV Plus (only Netflix somehow gets away with not 
charging Canadian taxes) so in the end if you are in BC you would pay close to 
$60 a month for all that content. Oh, and I forget, there is also CBC Gem which 
gives you access to all the CBC programming and I think it's $4 or so a month. 
But still that isn't actually all that bad considering that a decent cable 
package can easily cost you the same and more if you want a premium package.
We have Amazon Prime anyways so we can access their movies, but unfortunately 
it seems there is little described content here in Canada, mostly we watch 
Netflix and Disney Plus which, as I said, for me is a great service since I 
like a lot of their older movies and musicals like Iron Will which we just 
watched last night (it has audio description), some of the other Christmas 
oriented movies and so on.

Of course an Apple TV is also an Airplay device, gives you access to Apple 
Music and acts as a hub for many home automation devices which support Home Kit.

I think we are at a point where often a single device does not do it all and 
whenever we buy a new TV I would most likely buy a smart TV with built-in 
Chromecast even though we have our Apple TV also.
For now my old 40 inch Sony LCD TV I bought 12 years ago still works great, it 
was on the higher end of TV's back then costing $1,600 and it does 1080P but of 
course it's not a 4K TV and has a huge frame/bezel compared to TV's nowadays. 
Now the newer 55 inch and 65 inch TV's are coming down in price so much that I 
think it's almost time to upgrade, but most likely we'll wait another year or 2 
or 3 since we have some other projecgts higher up on the list such as 
rebuilding and expanding our deck, maybe a greenhouse since both my wife and I 
enjoy gardening etc.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Verrier
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

Hi Jen the tv that I have is the Model Number:  FW32D06F (Make sure there is a 
letter B after the model number for ecdition B)
UPC:  5381834029
Here is the link to the tv too:
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/sanyo-32-fw32d06f-led-lcd-hd-tv/6000196784584
I will forward you the manual for it in pdf. From Mich. 

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Sent: December 26, 2019 9:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

Hi I am interested in purchasing a smart tv.
Is there A particular make or model that would be accessible to someone with no 
vision or is the Apple Tv a better option.
Feel free to email me off list with input.
Thanks.
Jen

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Thank you!

[Anne West]

Hi everyone. Holidays are history but the pleasant memories will linger.

 

I thank everyone who sent some very good info about Disney Plus. According
to Verizon, my plan allows for 6 phones with each having its own profile. I
have 7 people on my plan but 1 has a flip phone and has no interest in smart
phones.

 

I will let you know my progress and I'm very glad there is audio
description. I don't give up on difficult apps but Disney seems to be a
reasonably accessible one. I'm looking forward to some old movies and shows
I watched as a child.

 

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RE: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

[Larry Lumpkin]

I'll admit the voice isn't the best but I find both our roku tv and roku boxes 
very accessible.


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Sabo
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 11:41 AM
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Hi I’m sorry I’m late coming to this thread, I have a Roku TV but I have 
trouble using it by myself. I do not have the speech turn on because I do not 
like it my husband has to help me use it to navigate through it. Is there any 
other good assessable TV stand the Roko thanks Becky

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 

Is there a difference in accessibility between a Roku box and a smart TV with 
Roku built-in?
I assume Larry is talking about the Roku boxes?
I really think if somebody really wants the most out of what TV and the various 
devices and services have to offer that a single device isn't necessarily the 
answer. Fortunately a lot of these things like Roku and a Fire TV stick and 
even the Google Chromecast aren't very expensive so there is no reason why one 
can't have any number of them. I agree that considering the quality of speech 
nowadays it shouldn't be that hard for Roku to include a decent TTS unless of 
course their boxes run on very low-powered processors which may make a higher 
end TTS not possible. I think I heard the voice on Roku is eSpeak, but I'm not 
totally sure. If it is or if it is similar I also would not necessarily enjoy 
using it. I use Eloquence with Jaws since I am not a fan of the high quality 
voices for daily work, but I can't stand eSpeak.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

Three taps on the options key on thr remote turns voice guide on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

Hi I’m assuming there is a setting to turn it on.
Is there a certain version that is required in order for Roku to be accessible 
for someone with no vision.
Jen

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> Roku is very accessible.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv
> 
> I had an old Apple Tv box and have cable as well but a friend of mine got a 
> smart TV recently with Roku so wonder how accessible that would be.
> I love Netflix and have Disney+ too but have to watch it on phone or iPad 
> since I don’t have a smart TV.
> Jen
> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is relevant on this list since we are still talking Apple TV 
>> and comparisons.
>> 
>> I don't think that Sanyo Mich provided a link for is a smart TV, typically a 
>> smart TV is one which has internet connectivity and uses the Android 
>> operating system, it probably has things like Netflix and YouTube 
>> preinstalled, but you can also install other apps on it.
>> If you are fairly invested in the Apple ecosystem I still think an Apple TV 
>> is a pretty good item to have and you have accessible apps for Netflix, 
>> Disney Plus (which, by the way is fantastic), YouTube and Amazon Prime Video.
>> There is also the new Apple TV service which we have not yet subscribed to 
>> and you can also subscribe to the Canadian Crave TV streaming service which 
>> offers content from HBO, Showtime and Starz.
>> If you have a cable TV subscription you can get the Crave subscription 
>> through your provider or you can subscribe independently on 
>> www.Crave.ca/subscribe. It's $9.95 a month for the basic offering, if you 
>> want all the newest HBO content and on-demand you can buy an add-on package 
>> for another $9.95 a months (you are now at $19.90) and if you want the 
>> additional Showtime package that is an extra $5.95, total package would be 
>> $25.85 a month so that is getting a bit on the expensive side.
>> If you add Netflix for $13.99 a month here in Canada and subscribe to Disney 
>> Plus annually ($89.99) you would be looking at $48.34 and if you also throw 
>> in Apple TV Plus with an annual subscription which works out to $5/mnth I 
>> think then you are at $53.34, you'll also pay applicable taxes on Crave and 
>> I think also on Disney Plus and Apple TV Plus (only Netflix somehow gets 
>> away with not charging Canadian taxes) so in the end if you are in BC you 
>> would pay close to $60 a month for all that content. Oh, and I forget, there 
>> is also CBC Gem which gives you access to all the CBC programming and I 
>> think it's $4 or so a month. But still that isn't a

Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

[Steve Matzura]

I'm a big fan of the Amazon Fire/Toshiba/Insignia TV. Learn how to unbox 
and set it up by listening to this program: 
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On 1/1/2020 12:41 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:

Hi I’m sorry I’m late coming to this thread, I have a Roku TV but I have 
trouble using it by myself. I do not have the speech turn on because I do not 
like it my husband has to help me use it to navigate through it. Is there any 
other good assessable TV stand the Roko thanks Becky



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Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

[Alex Stone]

Thanks for this Steve, I’ll certainly give it a listen.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Jan 2020, at 19:42, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I'm a big fan of the Amazon Fire/Toshiba/Insignia TV. Learn how to unbox and 
> set it up by listening to this program: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g57bnhnl77ep6gr/Toshiba%20Fire%20TV%20Setup.wav?dl=1
> 
> 
>> On 1/1/2020 12:41 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
>> Hi I’m sorry I’m late coming to this thread, I have a Roku TV but I have 
>> trouble using it by myself. I do not have the speech turn on because I do 
>> not like it my husband has to help me use it to navigate through it. Is 
>> there any other good assessable TV stand the Roko thanks Becky
>> 
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Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

[Ken Brown]

If you have the Roku that has the remote control with the earphone jack if you 
plug the earphone jack into it the speech is a little bit more tolerable and 
it’s a little easier to understand, than if you’re listening to it through the 
TV speakers at least that’s what I found

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
> 
> hi I am looking for a new assessable TV I have the Roku TV but I can’t use 
> it on my own because the speech software is not the greatest and so I have 
> that turned off any suggestions would be great the only subscription right 
> now is to prime and Hulu I was wondering is there any other great programs to 
> subscribe to in also cesspool TV then the Roku thanks Becky
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
> 
> I think this is relevant on this list since we are still talking Apple TV 
> and comparisons.
> 
> I don't think that Sanyo Mich provided a link for is a smart TV, typically a 
> smart TV is one which has internet connectivity and uses the Android 
> operating system, it probably has things like Netflix and YouTube 
> preinstalled, but you can also install other apps on it.
> If you are fairly invested in the Apple ecosystem I still think an Apple TV 
> is a pretty good item to have and you have accessible apps for Netflix, 
> Disney Plus (which, by the way is fantastic), YouTube and Amazon Prime Video.
> There is also the new Apple TV service which we have not yet subscribed to 
> and you can also subscribe to the Canadian Crave TV streaming service which 
> offers content from HBO, Showtime and Starz.
> If you have a cable TV subscription you can get the Crave subscription 
> through your provider or you can subscribe independently on 
> www.Crave.ca/subscribe. It's $9.95 a month for the basic offering, if you 
> want all the newest HBO content and on-demand you can buy an add-on package 
> for another $9.95 a months (you are now at $19.90) and if you want the 
> additional Showtime package that is an extra $5.95, total package would be 
> $25.85 a month so that is getting a bit on the expensive side.
> If you add Netflix for $13.99 a month here in Canada and subscribe to Disney 
> Plus annually ($89.99) you would be looking at $48.34 and if you also throw 
> in Apple TV Plus with an annual subscription which works out to $5/mnth I 
> think then you are at $53.34, you'll also pay applicable taxes on Crave and I 
> think also on Disney Plus and Apple TV Plus (only Netflix somehow gets away 
> with not charging Canadian taxes) so in the end if you are in BC you would 
> pay close to $60 a month for all that content. Oh, and I forget, there is 
> also CBC Gem which gives you access to all the CBC programming and I think 
> it's $4 or so a month. But still that isn't actually all that bad considering 
> that a decent cable package can easily cost you the same and more if you want 
> a premium package.
> We have Amazon Prime anyways so we can access their movies, but unfortunately 
> it seems there is little described content here in Canada, mostly we watch 
> Netflix and Disney Plus which, as I said, for me is a great service since I 
> like a lot of their older movies and musicals like Iron Will which we just 
> watched last night (it has audio description), some of the other Christmas 
> oriented movies and so on.
> 
> Of course an Apple TV is also an Airplay device, gives you access to Apple 
> Music and acts as a hub for many home automation devices which support Home 
> Kit.
> 
> I think we are at a point where often a single device does not do it all and 
> whenever we buy a new TV I would most likely buy a smart TV with built-in 
> Chromecast even though we have our Apple TV also.
> For now my old 40 inch Sony LCD TV I bought 12 years ago still works great, 
> it was on the higher end of TV's back then costing $1,600 and it does 1080P 
> but of course it's not a 4K TV and has a huge frame/bezel compared to TV's 
> nowadays. Now the newer 55 inch and 65 inch TV's are coming down in price so 
> much that I think it's almost time to upgrade, but most likely we'll wait 
> another year or 2 or 3 since we have some other projecgts higher up on the 
> list such as rebuilding and expanding our deck, maybe a greenhouse since both 
> my wife and I enjoy gardening etc.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
> Verrier
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv
> 
> Hi Jen the tv that I have is the Model Number:  FW32D06F (Make sure there is 
> a letter B after the model number for ecdition B)
> UPC:  5381834029
> Here is the link to the tv too:
> https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/sanyo-32-fw32d06f-led-lcd-hd-tv/6000196784584
> I will forward you the manual for it in pdf. From Mich. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegrou

Re: An off list question re purchasing a smart tv

[Lynn White]

It was this tutorial that convinced me to buy this TV and Ive been happy with 
it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I'm a big fan of the Amazon Fire/Toshiba/Insignia TV. Learn how to unbox and 
> set it up by listening to this program: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g57bnhnl77ep6gr/Toshiba%20Fire%20TV%20Setup.wav?dl=1
> 
> 
>> On 1/1/2020 12:41 PM, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
>> Hi I’m sorry I’m late coming to this thread, I have a Roku TV but I have 
>> trouble using it by myself. I do not have the speech turn on because I do 
>> not like it my husband has to help me use it to navigate through it. Is 
>> there any other good assessable TV stand the Roko thanks Becky
>> 
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Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

[Kelly Pierce]

I am in Chicago and I can listen to all the numbered BBC stations.
Siri wants me to install the podcasts app for BBC World Service.  Are
you just craving BBC news?  I listen to the World Service and it has
changed a lot since I started listening on shortwave in the early
1990s.  Now, listeners here many people without British upper class
accents, including Indians.  Also, the tone is decidedly leftist and
globalist.  I listen to many other news sources.

Kelly


On 12/30/19, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi all and thanks for your responses.
>
> I finally got to the bottom of this issue in this article from Mac
> rumours see below.
>
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/01/homepod-live-radio-requests-no-bbc-in-uk/
>
>
> I  can get other stations but it seems somewhat hit and miss, I think I
> will be returning my Homepod as a waste of space!
>
> Gary
>
> On 30/12/2019 16:42, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>
>> And here again the link for that support article since the one Jim
>> provided got mangled:
>>
>> Listen to broadcast radio on iPhone - Apple Support
>> 
>>
>> I just tried this on my iPhone 8 asking SIRI the following examples:
>>
>> Play BBC radio – SIRI said now playing BBC radio 1
>>
>> Play CBC radio – SIRI said now playing CBC 1
>>
>> Play Country 105 (I said it as 1 O 5) – SIRI played it, it’s a country
>> station from Calgary
>>
>> Play CHFI – SIRI said now playing 98.1 CHFI radio
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Peter Logan
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> No, you don't need the Tune In app ...
>>
>> Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple of
>> different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it just
>> fine ..
>>
>> Hey Siri, play BBC 1
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.
>>
>> Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.
>>
>> Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or
>> Homepod?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>>
>> > Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
>>
>> > You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to
>>
>> > work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit
>>
>> > finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask for
>>
>> > the station.
>>
>> > It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest
>>
>> > software as well.
>>
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
>>
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> > Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention that
>>
>> > IOS
>>
>> > 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like tune
>>
>> > in radio etc.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could
>>
>> > access mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did see
>>
>> > one commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my
>>
>> > phone but couldn't get to anything else.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to gain
>>
>> > access to all these new stations?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey Siri
>>
>> > play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
>>
>> > sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when
>>
>> > compared to just asking directly.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Thanks
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Gary
>>
>> >
>>
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RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

" Now, listeners here many people without British upper class accents, 
including Indians."
LOL wow the horror...  what pray tell are people to do now? Globalists 
globalists everywhere. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod

I am in Chicago and I can listen to all the numbered BBC stations.
Siri wants me to install the podcasts app for BBC World Service.  Are you just 
craving BBC news?  I listen to the World Service and it has changed a lot since 
I started listening on shortwave in the early 1990s.  Now, listeners here many 
people without British upper class accents, including Indians.  Also, the tone 
is decidedly leftist and globalist.  I listen to many other news sources.

Kelly


On 12/30/19, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi all and thanks for your responses.
>
> I finally got to the bottom of this issue in this article from Mac 
> rumours see below.
>
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/01/homepod-live-radio-requests-no-bb
> c-in-uk/
>
>
> I  can get other stations but it seems somewhat hit and miss, I think 
> I will be returning my Homepod as a waste of space!
>
> Gary
>
> On 30/12/2019 16:42, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>
>> And here again the link for that support article since the one Jim 
>> provided got mangled:
>>
>> Listen to broadcast radio on iPhone - Apple Support 
>> 
>>
>> I just tried this on my iPhone 8 asking SIRI the following examples:
>>
>> Play BBC radio – SIRI said now playing BBC radio 1
>>
>> Play CBC radio – SIRI said now playing CBC 1
>>
>> Play Country 105 (I said it as 1 O 5) – SIRI played it, it’s a 
>> country station from Calgary
>>
>> Play CHFI – SIRI said now playing 98.1 CHFI radio
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Peter Logan
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> No, you don't need the Tune In app ...
>>
>> Yes, I do this all the time.  You do sometimes need to ask a couple 
>> of different ways to get what you want.  I tried BBC 1 and got it 
>> just fine ..
>>
>> Hey Siri, play BBC 1
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>
>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:57 AM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried this but it didn't work on either my Homepod or Iphone.
>>
>> Just wondered if I need the tune in radio app installed on my phone.
>>
>> Have you actually got Siri to play radio stations on your phone or 
>> Homepod?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On 30/12/2019 12:27, Jim Fettgather wrote:
>>
>> > Try saying to your Homepod, Play BBC Radio.
>>
>> > You do not need to be subscribed to Apple Music for this feature to
>>
>> > work in IOS 13 with iPhone or HomePod, but sometimes Siri is a bit
>>
>> > finicky on complying with your request, depending on how you ask 
>> > for
>>
>> > the station.
>>
>> > It is of course critical that your Homepod be updated to the latest
>>
>> > software as well.
>>
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > -Original Message- From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
>>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:05 AM
>>
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>
>> > Subject: Apple music, tune in radio and Homepod
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Hi all,
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I  was browsing the web the other day and thought I saw mention 
>> > that
>>
>> > IOS
>>
>> > 13 for the Homepod brought with it access to radio stations like 
>> > tune
>>
>> > in radio etc.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I have just acquired a Homepod and thought I would see if I could
>>
>> > access mainstream radio stations but without any success.  I did 
>> > see
>>
>> > one commercial station in the radio section on my music app on my
>>
>> > phone but couldn't get to anything else.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > My question is do I need to have an Apple music subscription to 
>> > gain
>>
>> > access to all these new stations?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > At the end of the day all I want to do is to be able to say "hey 
>> > Siri
>>
>> > play BBC Radio 2..."  just as I can with my Echo.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Before anyone responds I know I could stream stations from the BBC
>>
>> > sounds app to my Homepod but this is unecessarily cumbersome when
>>
>> > compared to just asking directly.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Thanks
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Gary
>>
>> >
>>
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Question on Bose Noise Canceling 700 and iOS app

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Hello list,

I was considering getting a higher end over the ear headset. Cristóbal

 

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RE: Question on Bose Noise Canceling 700 and iOS app

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

GRRR… darn edit features…

What got cut off was my inquiry as to the Voiceover accessibility of the
accompanying iOS app to the Bose Noise Canceling 700 headset in case
anyone’s got this particular model.

Thanks,

Hello list,

I was considering getting a higher end over the ear headset.

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Re: Question on Bose Noise Canceling 700 and iOS app

[John Panarese]

   The Connect app for Bose was not really that accessible when I last used it. 
I needed sighted help with it. I don’t know if there is a specific app for each 
headset, but I had the Connect app for a while when I was using Bosenoise 
canceling ear buds.


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> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> GRRR… darn edit features…
> What got cut off was my inquiry as to the Voiceover accessibility of the 
> accompanying iOS app to the Bose Noise Canceling 700 headset in case anyone’s 
> got this particular model.
> Thanks,
> Hello list,
> I was considering getting a higher end over the ear headset.
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Re: Question on Bose Noise Canceling 700 and iOS app

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I've got the Bose connect app and while I don't know if I'd call it
totally accessible, I didn't really have any problems using it.

On 1/1/20, John Panarese  wrote:
>The Connect app for Bose was not really that accessible when I last used
> it. I needed sighted help with it. I don’t know if there is a specific app
> for each headset, but I had the Connect app for a while when I was using
> Bosenoise canceling ear buds.
>
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>> On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>> wrote:
>>
>> GRRR… darn edit features…
>> What got cut off was my inquiry as to the Voiceover accessibility of the
>> accompanying iOS app to the Bose Noise Canceling 700 headset in case
>> anyone’s got this particular model.
>> Thanks,
>> Hello list,
>> I was considering getting a higher end over the ear headset.
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Re: Question on Bose Noise Canceling 700 and iOS app

[Christopher Chaltain]

And this is my experience as well. I definitely didn't need any sighted 
assistance.



On 1/1/20 9:44 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

I've got the Bose connect app and while I don't know if I'd call it
totally accessible, I didn't really have any problems using it.

On 1/1/20, John Panarese  wrote:

The Connect app for Bose was not really that accessible when I last used
it. I needed sighted help with it. I don’t know if there is a specific app
for each headset, but I had the Connect app for a while when I was using
Bosenoise canceling ear buds.


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On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
wrote:

GRRR… darn edit features…
What got cut off was my inquiry as to the Voiceover accessibility of the
accompanying iOS app to the Bose Noise Canceling 700 headset in case
anyone’s got this particular model.
Thanks,
Hello list,
I was considering getting a higher end over the ear headset.

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Re: Question on Bose Noise Canceling 700 and iOS app

[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Bose improove the accessibility and it's accessible i use in Qc35 ii hadset.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-2 בינו׳ 2020, בשעה 6:19, ‏‏Christopher Chaltain ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
> 
> And this is my experience as well. I definitely didn't need any sighted 
> assistance.
> 
> 
>> On 1/1/20 9:44 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> I've got the Bose connect app and while I don't know if I'd call it
>> totally accessible, I didn't really have any problems using it.
>> 
>>> On 1/1/20, John Panarese  wrote:
>>>The Connect app for Bose was not really that accessible when I last used
>>> it. I needed sighted help with it. I don’t know if there is a specific app
>>> for each headset, but I had the Connect app for a while when I was using
>>> Bosenoise canceling ear buds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 1, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
 wrote:
 
 GRRR… darn edit features…
 What got cut off was my inquiry as to the Voiceover accessibility of the
 accompanying iOS app to the Bose Noise Canceling 700 headset in case
 anyone’s got this particular model.
 Thanks,
 Hello list,
 I was considering getting a higher end over the ear headset.
 
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