Re: Where to Copy File to Continue Work on iPhone?

[Richard Turner]

Well, If I were you, I'd just do the list in notes or another note taking app, 
because the excel app is pretty awful with VoiceOver.
Then manually enter the info when you are back on your computer.




Richard
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On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:38 PM, dani pagador  wrote:

Hi, Everyone.
I started an Excel spreadsheet on my PC and want to continue working
on it in my kitchen with my iPhone--it's an attempt at pantry
organization. Where in iCloud do I need to put the file in order to
have it sync with the iPhone so it can be used with the Excel app?

Thanks,
Dani

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Where to Copy File to Continue Work on iPhone?

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I started an Excel spreadsheet on my PC and want to continue working
on it in my kitchen with my iPhone--it's an attempt at pantry
organization. Where in iCloud do I need to put the file in order to
have it sync with the iPhone so it can be used with the Excel app?

Thanks,
Dani

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RE: Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok, that changes things slightly.

I thought there was an option within dropbox to have photos automatically lsync 
to the dropbox account / app on the phone.

Has this changed in recent years?

I have to admit I've not used  dropbox in some time 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 2:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

I pay for it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I got a email from iCloud that I only have so much storage left and I have 
> 30 days to move my photos so I need to know how to do that and how do I 
> delete backups? Are they dated? How do you know for sure you're deleting the 
> oldest ones and not the most recent ones please.
> 
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Re: arranging pictures in to an album and labelling pictures

[Richard Turner]

To label a picture you can do a double tap and hold with two fingers and you 
will hear a tone, then you should have an edit box where you can write the 
label.
It will only have that label on your phone.




Richard
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On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:26 PM, Amirudin Abdullah  
wrote:

Hi,
i have collections of pictures for my products that i sell. So, can i
make a new album in my photo gallery, then move all the pictures into
this album so that i can find it quicker?
how to do it? creating new album and moving pictures from all pictures
to this new album..
Also, how to add labels to pictures? If i use bespecular, i can save
the image with labels. Then, using the pictures app,  voice over
automatically reads the label when i encounter the picture.
So, how to do this without bespecular? Because, i dont want to use
bespecular for this, because the process is difficult. upload picture
to bespecular, then save it with label. Plus, i already know the
pictures what is it and so on.
ios 12 latest, iphone 5s, voiceover on.
thanks

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arranging pictures in to an album and labelling pictures

[Amirudin Abdullah]

Hi,
i have collections of pictures for my products that i sell. So, can i
make a new album in my photo gallery, then move all the pictures into
this album so that i can find it quicker?
how to do it? creating new album and moving pictures from all pictures
to this new album..
Also, how to add labels to pictures? If i use bespecular, i can save
the image with labels. Then, using the pictures app,  voice over
automatically reads the label when i encounter the picture.
So, how to do this without bespecular? Because, i dont want to use
bespecular for this, because the process is difficult. upload picture
to bespecular, then save it with label. Plus, i already know the
pictures what is it and so on.
ios 12 latest, iphone 5s, voiceover on.
thanks

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Re: Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

[Shirley Baker]

I pay for it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I got a email from iCloud that I only have so much storage left and I have 
> 30 days to move my photos so I need to know how to do that and how do I 
> delete backups? Are they dated? How do you know for sure you're deleting the 
> oldest ones and not the most recent ones please.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Moving icons.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah that's crazy that they put facetime thee,
I don't use facetime a lot,
Nor for that matter my contacts,
Unless I'm pullig up a contact into a message or email 
 But yeah I'd rather have contacts on the front page.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

I use Contacts a lot, so got 'em on the first page. 

The funny thing was, that I had face Time off my Home Page, and after 
downloading 13.6, I just decided I'd remember my Simon lesson and go to reset 
the Home Page, and then Face Time was back up there bigger than life. So, to 
Apple I went, and now Face Book is on Page three again, where I now know how to 
see that it stays there. He told me to flick, when focus is on top, just keep 
flicking until I get back to the one I clicked on to edit. I don't think I'll 
forget that. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Yeah that's the way apple have defaulted things to the home and other pages.

I have contacts on my second page  between translate and watch apps.

All you can do is go through the drag and drop process to get everything in to 
the order you require it.

As ET and others gave you the other day the instructions are correct it's just 
a case of listening to vo tell you before after or on top of.


And I have to admit I've dropped things in the wrong place a number of times 
and had to get them back to the correct place with playing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Simon, that is getting it close, only, I've lost Contacts. I know they're in 
the Dock but they're not on my Home Screen. 

I found them on the third page. Really, I do not want Face Time at the top on 
Page two, but, at least, it's way better than it was. 

I went back to Settings and Reset, then turned my phone off - same setup. 
Thanks, you've brought me a long way, Simon. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Hi Carolyn,

If you get really stuck,

You can go in to settings and then general and then restore / reset and select 
the restore home screen,

This will put everything back in an alphabetical order and not in folders.

  
The productivity folder is more likely to be that you dropped clock or 
something else on calendar making it a folder with multiple options on it.

Good luck hope you can figure it out,
Note you've got the right idea you just need to play,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Oh my, I'm in the biggest mess now; Calendar went into a Productivity Folder. 
My husband and Apple ended up having three of them. He got them untangled, but 
now my icons are in the biggest mess. I followed the directions, but somehow, I 
really fouled up. 

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:44 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Moving icons.

Hi carolyn,

Select Clock, and choose Drag. Move your finger to Calendar, since it's where 
you want Clock. then flick up or down until you get to the choice to drop Clock 
to the left of Calendar, and double-tap.

Best,
Anna


> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wanted to move some icons, and had all kind of problems, even called 
> Apple Accessibility, and ended up with my husband on the phone - 
> really big mess now.
> 
> So, I carefully read some good instructions I had from Sieghard, have 
> recorded them and studied them to get very familiar with how to do it.
> 
> Now, I want to get my clock top left, but, right now, Calendar is 
> there. So, any time I try to move anything, when I get to drag, 
> regardless of what I've highlighted for editing, VoiceOver says drag 
> Calendar.
> 
> What do I do to get it to drag the icon I'm on and leave Calendar out 
> of it? I'm afraid if I just moved Calendar one over, which is what I 
> want to do, that whenever I tried to move again, it would just move 
> what would be at the top left, which probably would be maps. That 
> would be OK, but, then, I'd be back to Calendar at the top
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RE: Moving icons.

[Carolyn]

I use Contacts a lot, so got 'em on the first page. 

The funny thing was, that I had face Time off my Home Page, and after 
downloading 13.6, I just decided I'd remember my Simon lesson and go to reset 
the Home Page, and then Face Time was back up there bigger than life. So, to 
Apple I went, and now Face Book is on Page three again, where I now know how to 
see that it stays there. He told me to flick, when focus is on top, just keep 
flicking until I get back to the one I clicked on to edit. I don't think I'll 
forget that. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Yeah that's the way apple have defaulted things to the home and other pages.

I have contacts on my second page  between translate and watch apps.

All you can do is go through the drag and drop process to get everything in to 
the order you require it.

As ET and others gave you the other day the instructions are correct it's just 
a case of listening to vo tell you before after or on top of.


And I have to admit I've dropped things in the wrong place a number of times 
and had to get them back to the correct place with playing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Simon, that is getting it close, only, I've lost Contacts. I know they're in 
the Dock but they're not on my Home Screen. 

I found them on the third page. Really, I do not want Face Time at the top on 
Page two, but, at least, it's way better than it was. 

I went back to Settings and Reset, then turned my phone off - same setup. 
Thanks, you've brought me a long way, Simon. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Hi Carolyn,

If you get really stuck,

You can go in to settings and then general and then restore / reset and select 
the restore home screen,

This will put everything back in an alphabetical order and not in folders.

  
The productivity folder is more likely to be that you dropped clock or 
something else on calendar making it a folder with multiple options on it.

Good luck hope you can figure it out,
Note you've got the right idea you just need to play,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Oh my, I'm in the biggest mess now; Calendar went into a Productivity Folder. 
My husband and Apple ended up having three of them. He got them untangled, but 
now my icons are in the biggest mess. I followed the directions, but somehow, I 
really fouled up. 

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:44 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Moving icons.

Hi carolyn,

Select Clock, and choose Drag. Move your finger to Calendar, since it's where 
you want Clock. then flick up or down until you get to the choice to drop Clock 
to the left of Calendar, and double-tap.

Best,
Anna


> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wanted to move some icons, and had all kind of problems, even called 
> Apple Accessibility, and ended up with my husband on the phone - 
> really big mess now.
> 
> So, I carefully read some good instructions I had from Sieghard, have 
> recorded them and studied them to get very familiar with how to do it.
> 
> Now, I want to get my clock top left, but, right now, Calendar is 
> there. So, any time I try to move anything, when I get to drag, 
> regardless of what I've highlighted for editing, VoiceOver says drag 
> Calendar.
> 
> What do I do to get it to drag the icon I'm on and leave Calendar out 
> of it? I'm afraid if I just moved Calendar one over, which is what I 
> want to do, that whenever I tried to move again, it would just move 
> what would be at the top left, which probably would be maps. That 
> would be OK, but, then, I'd be back to Calendar at the top
> 
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RE: Got the moving app solved with Apple Accessibility.

[Simon A Fogarty]

And patients is a key attribute to someone working successfully on a helpdesk 
or service desk.

A good customer service skill.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Got the moving app solved with Apple Accessibility.

Absolutely, I had decided, as I am prone to do, that it was going to be my way. 
Jim and I agree that those guys at Apple Accessibility really are patient. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Got the moving app solved with Apple Accessibility.

"Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way."
Abraham Lincoln 

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RE: Got the moving app solved with Apple Accessibility.

[Carolyn]

Absolutely, I had decided, as I am prone to do, that it was going to be my way. 
Jim and I agree that those guys at Apple Accessibility really are patient. 

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"Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way."
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RE: Shortwave radio

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I have a new zealdnd radio station playing through my sonos via tune in,

And there are a lot of stations on there

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 10:05 AM
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I also like Tune In. Sadly many countries have stopped their shortwave 
broadcasts in English, but TuneIn will offer streamed broadcasts as well.
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 My favorite is TuneIn Radio.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:42 AM, regina alvarado 
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Hi, What is the best and most accessible app to listen to radio from other 
countries? Thanks for any help with this.

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RE: Got the moving app solved with Apple Accessibility.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Try Not,
Do,

Or Do not,

There is no Try!

Yoda, Jedi Master!

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"Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way."
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RE: Starting from scratch

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well it will correct problems if you have created them but what is the problem 
you are trying to correct?

Remember if you completely eraise the phone back to factory defaults
You have to reset it up again which is fun ok, but takes time to log back in to 
everything .

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Roberts
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 9:57 AM
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I need to completely wipe my new S E and begin again as that likely is easier 
than correcting some problems I created.  I used the reset option, but that did 
not wipe the phone.



Thanks for suggestions.



Don Roberts


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RE: Moving icons.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

 To me it sounds like you missed contacts and picked files,

 Keep at it as your doing fine, 
All good things take time.

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Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 9:44 AM
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I have no idea how it happened, but I got it moved to Page 3, next to Files. 
Contacts is on Page 3, and I want that app on two, but when I try to move it, 
it says want to drag Files (the one at the top of the page). 

I updated to 13.6 and hoped that resetting the Home Page and updating would 
help, but not yet. 

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Carolyn:

Maybe you could try deleting 'Facetime', and see what happens.  I can't imagine 
why it would be an icon on your home page.  Maybe someone else can shed more 
light on things. 

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RE: Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

[Simon A Fogarty]

Do you  pay for dropbox or just use the free version?

iCloud gives you 5 gig free and then as stated  it's about a dollar per month 
for 50 gig of space.

 From memory I thought dropbox gave you only 2gig free 

And iCloud is so seamless off the phone / apple dvice it's the better option.

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I did turn off photos in iCloud and also turned the apps off that were using 
iCloud that I didn't want to use right now. I did upload some photos to my 
dropbox but I couldn't figure out how to get all the videos there that I wanted 
to keep. Any suggestions about that, would be grately appreciated.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I got a email from iCloud that I only have so much storage left and I have 
> 30 days to move my photos so I need to know how to do that and how do I 
> delete backups? Are they dated? How do you know for sure you're deleting the 
> oldest ones and not the most recent ones please.
> 
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RE: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

[Simon A Fogarty]

Two finger double tap on the screen should either answer or end a call on your 
iphone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
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Subject: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

I would like to know how to end a call on my iPhone when using VoiceOver.
Circumstance #1: I initiate a call using Siri, therefore the phone app is not 
open.
Circumstance #2: My phone is asleep and I answer an incoming call using the 
accept button on the screen that pops up.
Thanks for the help.
Jeff
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RE: Moving icons.

[Simon A Fogarty]

If you have a  productivity folder then you have dropped an app on another app 
to make the folder,

The productivity folder should say how many items are inside it as well.

 As for facetime 
It's if you want to make a call to someone that isn't in your contacts and need 
to open the app first,

Why have messages app when you can send a message to someone from the contact 
in your contacts app,
Same goes for email.


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Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

When I do that, it makes where I move, and the one moved into a folder called 
Productivity. 

I just updated to 13.6. I don't know if it would do any better now, but it does 
really annoy the snot out of me, whenever I come to my Home Page, and it says 
Face Time. Why would there even be an icon for that, when it is in contact 
choices. 

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Holly
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Carolyne:

When you are in 'edit' mode and voice over says drag, just flick right or left 
until you find the icon you want to move.  Then you can move it to where you 
want it. 

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RE: Moving icons.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah that's the way apple have defaulted things to the home and other pages.

I have contacts on my second page  between translate and watch apps.

All you can do is go through the drag and drop process to get everything in to 
the order you require it.

As ET and others gave you the other day the instructions are correct it's just 
a case of listening to vo tell you before after or on top of.


And I have to admit I've dropped things in the wrong place a number of times 
and had to get them back to the correct place with playing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Simon, that is getting it close, only, I've lost Contacts. I know they're in 
the Dock but they're not on my Home Screen. 

I found them on the third page. Really, I do not want Face Time at the top on 
Page two, but, at least, it's way better than it was. 

I went back to Settings and Reset, then turned my phone off - same setup. 
Thanks, you've brought me a long way, Simon. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Hi Carolyn,

If you get really stuck,

You can go in to settings and then general and then restore / reset and select 
the restore home screen,

This will put everything back in an alphabetical order and not in folders.

  
The productivity folder is more likely to be that you dropped clock or 
something else on calendar making it a folder with multiple options on it.

Good luck hope you can figure it out,
Note you've got the right idea you just need to play,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Oh my, I'm in the biggest mess now; Calendar went into a Productivity Folder. 
My husband and Apple ended up having three of them. He got them untangled, but 
now my icons are in the biggest mess. I followed the directions, but somehow, I 
really fouled up. 

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:44 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Moving icons.

Hi carolyn,

Select Clock, and choose Drag. Move your finger to Calendar, since it's where 
you want Clock. then flick up or down until you get to the choice to drop Clock 
to the left of Calendar, and double-tap.

Best,
Anna


> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wanted to move some icons, and had all kind of problems, even called 
> Apple Accessibility, and ended up with my husband on the phone - 
> really big mess now.
> 
> So, I carefully read some good instructions I had from Sieghard, have 
> recorded them and studied them to get very familiar with how to do it.
> 
> Now, I want to get my clock top left, but, right now, Calendar is 
> there. So, any time I try to move anything, when I get to drag, 
> regardless of what I've highlighted for editing, VoiceOver says drag 
> Calendar.
> 
> What do I do to get it to drag the icon I'm on and leave Calendar out 
> of it? I'm afraid if I just moved Calendar one over, which is what I 
> want to do, that whenever I tried to move again, it would just move 
> what would be at the top left, which probably would be maps. That 
> would be OK, but, then, I'd be back to Calendar at the top
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RE: Bluetooth Earbuds (Apple Pros)

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi

I can’t say I’ve really ever noticed a lag in vo on my series 2 apple air pods.

If there is one it must be minimal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Melanie 
Clouser
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth Earbuds (Apple Pros)

Hello:

Can anyone tell me whether the lag in VoiceOver when using bluetooth earbuds is 
gone when/if using the Apple Pro Earbuds (now on sale at B Photo Video)? I’ve 
ben tempted to purchase them now that I’ve upgraded my iPhone to the new SE 
model. I’ve only ever used cheaper bluetooth earbuds and I find the lag 
intollerable. Hoping the better Apple Pro Earbuds/Earpods are better and do 
something about the lag in VoiceOver.

Melanie
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Re: Got the moving app solved with Apple Accessibility.

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"Determine that the thing can and shall be done, and then...find the way."
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Got the moving app solved with Apple Accessibility.

[Carolyn]

Garrett there said, when it highlighted Face Time on top of
Page to just swipe right to highlight Contacts; it did
remove highlight from Facetime, and we have it on Page two
now. YEA!!! 

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iPhone and focus 40 blue 5th gen chord commands

[Jenny Bomareto]

Hi,

Do you all know if there is chord commands for the native mail and texting
app on the iPhone?

I would like to be able to just use a chord command to say : create a email,
create a text, Reply to a email, reply all to an email, forward an email and
move a email and delete an email.

Also the same commands for texting in the native texting app on the iPhone.

Do you all know if there is chord commands to do these things in mail and
texting app on the iPhone?

That is using the focus 40 blue 5th gen braille display.

Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter!

Jenny Bomareto

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Re: Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello,
If you use OneDrive, you have an option in OneDrive to send your photos 
automatically in OneDrive. It's easiest to copy on computer  

Lyne

> Le 22 juill. 2020 à 17:04, Shirley Baker  a écrit :
> 
> I did turn off photos in iCloud and also turned the apps off that were using 
> iCloud that I didn't want to use right now. I did upload some photos to my 
> dropbox but I couldn't figure out how to get all the videos there that I 
> wanted to keep. Any suggestions about that, would be grately appreciated.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> 
>> I got a email from iCloud that I only have so much storage left and I have 
>> 30 days to move my photos so I need to know how to do that and how do I 
>> delete backups? Are they dated? How do you know for sure you're deleting the 
>> oldest ones and not the most recent ones please.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Starting from scratch

[Carolyn]

Oh boy, you and me, you with your new SE and me with my new 11. 

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I need to completely wipe my new S E and begin again as that likely is easier 
than correcting some problems I created.  I used the reset option, but that did 
not wipe the phone.




Thanks for suggestions.




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RE: Shortwave radio

[Richard Turner]

I know the BBC has pretty much stopped all their short wave broadcasting in 
favor of internet radio.
Several formerly shortwave broadcasts like radio free Moscow and such are on 
TuneIn as well.
There are also a couple of Russian language channels for anyone who speaks 
Russian, which I don’t.
I believe lots of countries have switched to internet radio.
.I have a short wave receiver and stopped hunting for stations a few years ago 
because there isn’t much on there.

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shortwave radio

I also like Tune In. Sadly many countries have stopped their shortwave 
broadcasts in English, but TuneIn will offer streamed broadcasts as well.
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 My favorite is TuneIn Radio.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:42 AM, regina alvarado 
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Hi, What is the best and most accessible app to listen to radio from other 
countries? Thanks for any help with this.

Reggie Alvarado

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RE: Starting from scratch

[Richard Turner]

In the settings, general, reset, you would use Reset and Erase all data.
That will wipe the phone clean and you can then either restore from a backup or 
set up as a new phone.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I need to completely wipe my new S E and begin again as that likely is easier 
than correcting some problems I created.  I used the reset option, but that did 
not wipe the phone.



Thanks for suggestions.



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Re: Shortwave radio

[Pete Nalda]

I also like Tune In. Sadly many countries have stopped their shortwave 
broadcasts in English, but TuneIn will offer streamed broadcasts as well. 

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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  My favorite is TuneIn Radio.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:42 AM, regina alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi, What is the best and most accessible app to listen to radio from other 
>> countries? Thanks for any help with this.
>> 
>> Reggie Alvarado 
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Starting from scratch

[Donald Roberts]

I need to completely wipe my new S E and begin again as that likely is 
easier than correcting some problems I created.  I used the reset 
option, but that did not wipe the phone.



Thanks for suggestions.


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Re: withings thermo thermometer.

[Kamal Haffar]

The app is accessible with voiceover. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Larry Smith  wrote:
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> Hi list. Does anyone know if the Winthings thermo thermometer is VoiceOver  
> accessible? Thanks.
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RE: Moving icons.

[Carolyn]

I have no idea how it happened, but I got it moved to Page 3, next to Files. 
Contacts is on Page 3, and I want that app on two, but when I try to move it, 
it says want to drag Files (the one at the top of the page). 

I updated to 13.6 and hoped that resetting the Home Page and updating would 
help, but not yet. 

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Subject: Re: Moving icons.

Carolyn:

Maybe you could try deleting 'Facetime', and see what happens.  I can't imagine 
why it would be an icon on your home page.  Maybe someone else can shed more 
light on things. 

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RE: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

[Carolyn]

Double tap your screen. 

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Subject: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

I would like to know how to end a call on my iPhone when using VoiceOver.
Circumstance #1: I initiate a call using Siri, therefore the phone app is not 
open.
Circumstance #2: My phone is asleep and I answer an incoming call using the 
accept button on the screen that pops up.
Thanks for the help.
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RE: Moving icons.

[Carolyn]

I tend to be that way too, Joshua. 

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I never use Siri to open any of my apps, because Siri can't close any app.  If 
I have to swipe to get into the app switcher to close an app, then I can 
certainly use a finger to get to my preferred app.  Carolyn your home screen 
looks a lot like mine.  I don't know why having face time show up on page 2 
annoys you.  I don't even use what is on page 1 on my phone like weather and 
stuff like that.  I know on what page to go to get to a certain app, so I can 
get around my iPhone easily enough.

On 7/22/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> When I do that, it makes where I move, and the one moved into a folder 
> called Productivity.
>
> I just updated to 13.6. I don't know if it would do any better now, 
> but it does really annoy the snot out of me, whenever I come to my 
> Home Page, and it says Face Time. Why would there even be an icon for 
> that, when it is in contact choices.
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:13 PM
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> Carolyne:
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> When you are in 'edit' mode and voice over says drag, just flick right 
> or left until you find the icon you want to move.  Then you can move 
> it to where you want it.
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Moving icons.

[Carolyn]

At least I got Face Time off the top of my home page. 

Here's my problem now. When I try to  move Contacts from
Page Two, it wants to drag File, which is back at the front
of Page Three. Contacts is on Page 3. I might have to call
Apple Accessibility, and I know more myself what to do, but
with screen share, we might find a solution; I hope. 

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Re: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

[Richard Turner]

A two finger double tap will end any call, whether the phone app is open or not.
If no call is in progress, it will play the last audio/video you had listened 
to.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

To answer and end a call with voice over, do the following.  A call
comes in, do a 2 finger double tap to accept the call, and to end the
call, a 2 finger double tap as well.  Good luck.

On 7/22/20, Jeff Samco  wrote:
I would like to know how to end a call on my iPhone when using VoiceOver.
Circumstance #1: I initiate a call using Siri, therefore the phone
app is not open.
Circumstance #2: My phone is asleep and I answer an incoming call
using the accept button on the screen that pops up.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

[Shirley Baker]

I did turn off photos in iCloud and also turned the apps off that were using 
iCloud that I didn't want to use right now. I did upload some photos to my 
dropbox but I couldn't figure out how to get all the videos there that I wanted 
to keep. Any suggestions about that, would be grately appreciated.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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> I got a email from iCloud that I only have so much storage left and I have 
> 30 days to move my photos so I need to know how to do that and how do I 
> delete backups? Are they dated? How do you know for sure you're deleting the 
> oldest ones and not the most recent ones please.
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Re: Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Shirley,

You can get 50 GB of space on iCloud for a dollar a month, so that may be the 
easiest option. Otherwise, you can turn off Photos in your iCloud settings. 
That will stop them being stored in iCloud. There's also an iCloud Storage 
setting that lets you see how much data different apps are using and lets you 
see your backups.

Best,
Anna


> On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I got a email from iCloud that I only have so much storage left and I have 30 
> days to move my photos so I need to know how to do that and how do I delete 
> backups? Are they dated? How do you know for sure you're deleting the oldest 
> ones and not the most recent ones please.
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withings thermo thermometer.

[Larry Smith]

Hi list. Does anyone know if the Winthings thermo thermometer is VoiceOver  
accessible? Thanks.

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Re: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

[Dave]

2 finger double tap.

Dave.

From: Jeff Samco 
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Subject: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

I would like to know how to end a call on my iPhone when using VoiceOver.
Circumstance #1: I initiate a call using Siri, therefore the phone app is not 
open.
Circumstance #2: My phone is asleep and I answer an incoming call using the 
accept button on the screen that pops up.
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Re: Ending a call when using VoiceOver

[Joshua Hendrickson]

To answer and end a call with voice over, do the following.  A call
comes in, do a 2 finger double tap to accept the call, and to end the
call, a 2 finger double tap as well.  Good luck.

On 7/22/20, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> I would like to know how to end a call on my iPhone when using VoiceOver.
> Circumstance #1: I initiate a call using Siri, therefore the phone
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> Circumstance #2: My phone is asleep and I answer an incoming call
> using the accept button on the screen that pops up.
> Thanks for the help.
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Ending a call when using VoiceOver

[Jeff Samco]

I would like to know how to end a call on my iPhone when using VoiceOver.
Circumstance #1: I initiate a call using Siri, therefore the phone 
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Circumstance #2: My phone is asleep and I answer an incoming call 
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Re: Moving icons.

[Holly]

Carolyn:

Maybe you could try deleting 'Facetime', and see what happens.  I can't 
imagine why it would be an icon on your home page.  Maybe someone else can 
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Re: Moving icons.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I never use Siri to open any of my apps, because Siri can't close any
app.  If I have to swipe to get into the app switcher to close an app,
then I can certainly use a finger to get to my preferred app.  Carolyn
your home screen looks a lot like mine.  I don't know why having face
time show up on page 2 annoys you.  I don't even use what is on page 1
on my phone like weather and stuff like that.  I know on what page to
go to get to a certain app, so I can get around my iPhone easily
enough.

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> When I do that, it makes where I move, and the one moved into a folder
> called Productivity.
>
> I just updated to 13.6. I don't know if it would do any better now, but it
> does really annoy the snot out of me, whenever I come to my Home Page, and
> it says Face Time. Why would there even be an icon for that, when it is in
> contact choices.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:13 PM
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>
> Carolyne:
>
> When you are in 'edit' mode and voice over says drag, just flick right or
> left until you find the icon you want to move.  Then you can move it to
> where you want it.
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Question About iCloud, Backups and Photos

[Shirley Baker]

I got a email from iCloud that I only have so much storage left and I have 30 
days to move my photos so I need to know how to do that and how do I delete 
backups? Are they dated? How do you know for sure you're deleting the oldest 
ones and not the most recent ones please.

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RE: Moving icons.

[Carolyn]

When I do that, it makes where I move, and the one moved into a folder called 
Productivity. 

I just updated to 13.6. I don't know if it would do any better now, but it does 
really annoy the snot out of me, whenever I come to my Home Page, and it says 
Face Time. Why would there even be an icon for that, when it is in contact 
choices. 

-Original Message-
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Holly
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Carolyne:

When you are in 'edit' mode and voice over says drag, just flick right or left 
until you find the icon you want to move.  Then you can move it to where you 
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radio appps

[Nancy Lynn]

You can also try iHeartradio and radio dot com.
Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn
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My favorite is TuneIn Radio. 
 
 
 
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Re: Shortwave radio

[Richard Turner]

My favorite is TuneIn Radio.




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On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:42 AM, regina alvarado  wrote:

Hi, What is the best and most accessible app to listen to radio from other 
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Shortwave radio

[regina alvarado]

Hi, What is the best and most accessible app to listen to radio from other 
countries? Thanks for any help with this.

Reggie Alvarado 

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RE: Can anyone tell me how to do this?

[bentleyj1952]

Yes.  It did work.  How convenient!

 

Thank you and thanks to this list.

 

James B  

 

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Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone tell me how to do this?

 

Select the text, copy it, and paste it into a text message, assuming you have 
send as SMS on it should work.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Can anyone tell me how to do this?

 

Hi all,

 

I have a grocery list inside of the body of an email on my iPhone.

 

How do I send this grocery list as a text message to an Android phone which is 
in my contacts?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

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Update on Verizon prepaid plan pricing and my apology to the list

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Folks,

 

I have to apologize because I posted some incorrect Verizon prepaid plan
pricing info within the Shopping for mobile plans thread. I was being told
by Voiceover in the Verizon mobile app that the price of the 5GB prepaid
plan was $30 per month and used to be $40 per month. That same plan screen
told me the price of the 15GB prepaid plan was $40 per month and used to be
$50 per month. I did not realize that those quoted prices were reflecting
discounts I currently get on my plan, $5 for autopay and $5 for loyalty.
Verizon has never reflected discounts in the plan pricing I've been quoted
in the past and I made an assumption that the starting plan price had been
reduced by $10 per month and as the old adage says, made an ass of myself. I
apologize for any confusion caused.

 

I believe I have a keen understanding of the Verizon prepaid plans and their
available data and discounts so if anyone has specific questions, I'd love
an opportunity to make up for the misinformation. The nice thing about
Verizon prepaid plans is that you can change them once every billing cycle
without any problem.

 

Again, I apologize for any confusion caused.

 

Alan Lemly

 

 

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RE: shopping for mobile plans

[Jeff Samco]

You need to find where Party Pay is described. If 
you are part of a Party of 4 then the monthly 
charge is a flat $25. Reddit has a group where 
people post openings in their Party Pay group. It 
took me about 10 minutes to find an open group, 
submit my name and get approval that I had joined.


As for the slowdown in data, yes, that is one of 
the two drawbacks in the Visible service. I was 
particularly drawn to the unlimited 
hotspot  feature and I have not been  disappointed.

HTH,
Jeff

At 02:47 PM 7/20/2020, you wrote:

Hi Jeff,
I went to the site and it says a new member 
would pay $25 for the first month then $40 after 
that and your speeds maybe throttles down at 
times. Here below is what it says on the sight.
+For a limited time only. $25 First Month Offer 
begins 10/22/19. For new Visible members only. 
New members receive first month of phone service 
for $25; thereafter $40/mo applies. Subject to Visible Customer Agmt.

*In times of traffic, your data may be temporarily slower than other traffic.

So unless I missed something it is going to be 
$40 a month after the first month. On Consumer 
Cellular you can get unlimited talk and text 
with 3 gig of data for $30 a month.
You can also get 250 talk minutes with unlimited 
text and 500 mb of data for $20 a month. If you 
go over they move you up to the next level for 
no extra charge. Then you can move it down again 
the next month. Their app is totally accessible.
Give them a call as they have the number one 
best tech support and they can tell you all about it.

I have been with them for years.
Mr. Ed
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco

Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans

Sorry for the delayed reply. I find the chat 
service through their Visible.com website on a 
Windows laptop to be a bit querky.  Each time I 
use it I have to figure it out again; the rest 
of the session goes smoothly enough.


At 10:55 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:

And the chat feature for Visible is accessible? How does it work?

Arnold

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:35 AM, Jeff Samco 
<jsa...@jps.net> wrote:


I recently helped a family member sign up at a 
Verizon store for pre-pay service. After the 
first month, which inclujded a set up fee of $10 
or so, it is $30.30 for unlimited calls and 
text, and 1GB of data even  though the rep said it would be  500 MB.


I personally use 
Visible.com. Go to their 
website and they only offer one plan and it is 
described very clearly. Also read reviews to 
make sure you can live with the  very 
slight  drawbacks. I love the service and only 
pay $25 monthly for unlimited calls, text, data 
and hotspot. It uses the Verizon network.


Jeff

At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made 
it ridiculously hard to find out how much plans 
cost?  I‬™m currently on Verizon with my new 
unlocked SE 2020 and want to loook at 
potentially switching. I cannot even figure out 
T-Mobile’s site, even with the 
accessibility mode turned on. Same with 
VVerizon̢۪s site. It̢۪s like theyke they are 
hiding the various pricing on calling 
plans.   Am I missing something?  For those who 
have shopped around, what is your 
method?  I̢۪m inclined to go to a store to at 
least get so some answers, but haven̢۪t had the time.


Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity 
Mobile, which is at least easier to navigate, 
but it looks like you have to have their internet service, which I do not.






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Re: Moving icons.

[Holly]

Carolyn:

I don't worry so much where the icons are, cause I just Ask Siri to open an 
app for me.


Just say "Hey Siri, open contacts. or whatever app you want. 


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RE: Moving icons.

[Carolyn]

Pretty smart going, Hollie. 

I have my factory reset, only the weirdest thing, Face Time is at the top, and 
Contacts is on Page three. At least I'm rid of the Productivity Folder that 
Contained Clock and something, I don't even remember. 

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Holly
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Carolyn:

I don't worry so much where the icons are, cause I just Ask Siri to open an app 
for me.

Just say "Hey Siri, open contacts. or whatever app you want. 

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RE: Moving icons.

[Carolyn]

Simon, that is getting it close, only, I've lost Contacts. I know they're in 
the Dock but they're not on my Home Screen. 

I found them on the third page. Really, I do not want Face Time at the top on 
Page two, but, at least, it's way better than it was. 

I went back to Settings and Reset, then turned my phone off - same setup. 
Thanks, you've brought me a long way, Simon. 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Hi Carolyn,

If you get really stuck,

You can go in to settings and then general and then restore / reset and select 
the restore home screen,

This will put everything back in an alphabetical order and not in folders.

  
The productivity folder is more likely to be that you dropped clock or 
something else on calendar making it a folder with multiple options on it.

Good luck hope you can figure it out,
Note you've got the right idea you just need to play,

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Oh my, I'm in the biggest mess now; Calendar went into a Productivity Folder. 
My husband and Apple ended up having three of them. He got them untangled, but 
now my icons are in the biggest mess. I followed the directions, but somehow, I 
really fouled up. 

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:44 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Moving icons.

Hi carolyn,

Select Clock, and choose Drag. Move your finger to Calendar, since it's where 
you want Clock. then flick up or down until you get to the choice to drop Clock 
to the left of Calendar, and double-tap.

Best,
Anna


> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wanted to move some icons, and had all kind of problems, even called 
> Apple Accessibility, and ended up with my husband on the phone - 
> really big mess now.
> 
> So, I carefully read some good instructions I had from Sieghard, have 
> recorded them and studied them to get very familiar with how to do it.
> 
> Now, I want to get my clock top left, but, right now, Calendar is 
> there. So, any time I try to move anything, when I get to drag, 
> regardless of what I've highlighted for editing, VoiceOver says drag 
> Calendar.
> 
> What do I do to get it to drag the icon I'm on and leave Calendar out 
> of it? I'm afraid if I just moved Calendar one over, which is what I 
> want to do, that whenever I tried to move again, it would just move 
> what would be at the top left, which probably would be maps. That 
> would be OK, but, then, I'd be back to Calendar at the top
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RE: Can anyone tell me how to do this?

[Richard Turner]

Select the text, copy it, and paste it into a text message, assuming you have 
send as SMS on it should work.



Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone tell me how to do this?

Hi all,

I have a grocery list inside of the body of an email on my iPhone.

How do I send this grocery list as a text message to an Android phone which is 
in my contacts?

Many thanks,

James B
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Can anyone tell me how to do this?

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

I have a grocery list inside of the body of an email on my iPhone.

 

How do I send this grocery list as a text message to an Android phone which
is in my contacts?

 

Many thanks,

 

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Re: Bluetooth Earbuds (Apple Pros)

[Devin Prater]

It’s still there, just not as bad as with other Bluetooth headphones. There 
will most likely always big lag with wireless stuff though.
Devin Prater
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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Melanie Clouser  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> Can anyone tell me whether the lag in VoiceOver when using bluetooth earbuds 
> is gone when/if using the Apple Pro Earbuds (now on sale at B Photo Video)? 
> I’ve ben tempted to purchase them now that I’ve upgraded my iPhone to the new 
> SE model. I’ve only ever used cheaper bluetooth earbuds and I find the lag 
> intollerable. Hoping the better Apple Pro Earbuds/Earpods are better and do 
> something about the lag in VoiceOver.
> 
> Melanie
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Bluetooth Earbuds (Apple Pros)

[Melanie Clouser]

Hello:

Can anyone tell me whether the lag in VoiceOver when using bluetooth
earbuds is gone when/if using the Apple Pro Earbuds (now on sale at B
Photo Video)? I’ve ben tempted to purchase them now that I’ve upgraded my
iPhone to the new SE model. I’ve only ever used cheaper bluetooth earbuds
and I find the lag intollerable. Hoping the better Apple Pro
Earbuds/Earpods are better and do something about the lag in VoiceOver.

Melanie

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