RE: Apple TV setup

[Simon A Fogarty]

Easy as falling over to setup yourself.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2020 1:05 pm
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Subject: Apple TV setup

Hello,
I was just given a new Apple TV 4k. I am wondering how easy it is to set up. Is 
this something I can do on my own or will I need sighted help?

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RE: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

[Simon A Fogarty]

Apple airpods or airpods pro

Beats power beats pro are all good options and I don’t see how they would 
interfere with the wearing of a mask,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2020 11:01 am
To: viPhone 
Subject: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

Hi All,

I currently use an Aftershokz Trekz Air bluetooth headset, that does show the 
battery charge status in the widget but, I'm asking for recommendations for a 
good bluetooth ear piece.  The problem with the Trekz Air is wearing it with a 
mask.  Can y'all plese recommend some really good bluetooth ear pieces?  I 
would like one that won't cut out if you turn your head just a little bit like 
so many of them have a tendacy to do or, at least the ones people I know use do 
that.  I'm running the SE 2020 iPhone and will appreciate all input.  Thanks 
much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

[Ann Byrne]

Is there a blue tooth earpiece that can pair with more than one 
device, switching between devices when one speaks?  If my watch and 
phone are both paired to the earpiece, can I hear the GPS on the 
phone when it speaks, and the messages on my watch when they interrupt the GPS?



Thx

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RE: Apple TV setup

[Larry Lumpkin]

You should be able to set it up unaided. Something very helpful would be the 
apple 4 tv tutorial sold by MMystic Access. I think it sells for $40 or so.


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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 6:05 PM
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Subject: Apple TV setup

Hello,
I was just given a new Apple TV 4k. I am wondering how easy it is to set up. Is 
this something I can do on my own or will I need sighted help?

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Apple TV setup

[Tom Cramer]

Hello,
I was just given a new Apple TV 4k. I am wondering how easy it is to
set up. Is this something I can do on my own or will I need sighted
help?

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Re: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, I have used my Aftershokz Treks Airs with a mask without difficulty, 
but if you are looking for a tiny ear bud, check out the Racon E25.
They are very tiny and fit snugly in your ear.
They normally sell for $79, but they are running holiday specials.
www.buyracon.com
Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike B 
  To: viPhone 
  Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 2:00 PM
  Subject: Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations


  Hi All,

  I currently use an Aftershokz Trekz Air bluetooth headset, that does show the 
battery charge status in the widget but, I'm asking for recommendations for a 
good bluetooth ear piece.  The problem with the Trekz Air is wearing it with a 
mask.  Can y'all plese recommend some really good bluetooth ear pieces?  I 
would like one that won't cut out if you turn your head just a little bit like 
so many of them have a tendacy to do or, at least the ones people I know use do 
that.  I'm running the SE 2020 iPhone and will appreciate all input.  Thanks 
much.

  Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


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Bluetooth Ear Piece Recommendations

[Mike B]

Hi All,

I currently use an Aftershokz Trekz Air bluetooth headset, that does show 
the battery charge status in the widget but, I'm asking for recommendations 
for a good bluetooth ear piece.  The problem with the Trekz Air is wearing 
it with a mask.  Can y'all plese recommend some really good bluetooth ear 
pieces?  I would like one that won't cut out if you turn your head just a 
little bit like so many of them have a tendacy to do or, at least the ones 
people I know use do that.  I'm running the SE 2020 iPhone and will 
appreciate all input.  Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Re: Typing with Alexa

[William Outman]

Hi, 
Tracy. I have just the app on my phone, not any other device such as an 
Echo. Do I need to set up the typing feature in the app as it might be useful 
when my voice input is inaccurate. Also, how do I discover things I can do with 
the app? 
Bill Outman 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, to those Amazon Echo users, have you noticed you can now type with 
> Alexa in the app? 
> 
> This got me thinking of a way to create a bunch of favorite shortcuts. 
> Something I've always felt Alexa is missing. 
> 
> In iOS, under text replacement in the keyboard, I ‘m wondering if you could 
> have preset 1, preset 2, etc. expand into commands. Type preset 1, expands 
> into play pandora station 90's country. I haven't tried this yet. I don't see 
> why it wouldn't work.
> 
> The typing already works great. I typed turn on Christmas tree, where's my 
> stuff, play Christmas music on family room. 
> 
> It's all pretty cool. Hope this feature is interesting to some. 
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> Traci
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Re: is there a problem with Apple news today tab?

[Chris Chaffin]

I just tried it, and my Todays News Feed came up just fine. Not sure why you 
are always getting a loading response.

Chris


> On Nov 28, 2020, at 4:16 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> I have had the following problem in the Apple news today tab since Thursday. 
> Is anyone else having this problem? Does anyone know what the issue is?
> 
> when I open the Apple news app, and select the first tab, the today view, the 
> only activity indicator I get is that Apple news today is loading. But it 
> never rolls over to any news. It previously has worked quite well.
> 
> Does anybody know anything about this?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Keith.
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is there a problem with Apple news today tab?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I have had the following problem in the Apple news today tab since Thursday. Is 
anyone else having this problem? Does anyone know what the issue is?

when I open the Apple news app, and select the first tab, the today view, the 
only activity indicator I get is that Apple news today is loading. But it never 
rolls over to any news. It previously has worked quite well.

Does anybody know anything about this?

Thanks in advance, Keith.

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Re: Question regarding this speak screen/expand speaking bar message that I keep getting on my iPhone

[Pete Nalda]

Speak screen is a low vision feature to read content, text only, not objects. 
Think of it as voiceover lite. It’s invoked by a two finger swipe down. It has 
its own controller That pops up when in use.  It can be turned off under 
accessibility in settings.

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> On Nov 28, 2020, at 5:10 AM, Dacia Luck  wrote:
> 
> What in the world is this speak screen bar thing on the iPhone? It keeps 
> coming up on my phone in random places, and it won’t go away. Is this 
> something I can remove or do something about? It will sometimes interfere 
> with me navigating to things on my phone. I have an iPhone 8 running the 
> latest iOS version. sometimes it will say things like speak screen and then 
> it will say expands speaking bar.
> 
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RE: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

 

That is very curious. When I connect my Tribit MaxSound Plus Bluetooth speaker 
to my SE 2020, the status bar says Bluetooth headphones connected and gives the 
battery charge. The battery widget on my today view says Tribit MaxSound Plus 
headphones and provides the battery charge too. Other than calling the speaker 
headphones, both the status bar and the widget give the battery level. Funny 
that my Apple Airpods second generation state the battery level as 0% in the 
status bar when they are connected.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone

 

A little update. My Plantronics e50 earpiece, which I paid less than $30 for a 
few years ago, shows the battery percentage in the status bar and on the 
widget.Go figure.

 

 

Richard

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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Nov 26, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Thanks, that confirms it for me.

 

I wrote Apple accessibility.

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Nov 26, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

They must have broken something with the last update. I know before with my 
H800 headset it would give the battery level on the widget. Also in the status 
bar it never showed charge 0. So I am thinking the last update of IOS broke the 
todays battery widget  because it use to work just fine.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 1:34 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone

 

When I check my status bar while the h800 headphones are connected, it says 
bluetooth headset connect 0 percent charge. 

This is while I am listening to them, so obviously they are not dead.

I've added the battery widget to the Today screen but it only shows the watch 
and my phone.

Am I missing something, or do these just not show up correctly?

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It should be very seamless, just hold your phone right next to the top of the 
HomePod and it should take over playing whatever you were playing on your 
iPhone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi all, there are features of the Homepod Mini that interest me, but honestly, 
it is mostly for the airplay capabilities.  I want to use my i'devices and play 
from the apps. Pandora, Bard Moble, Amazon Music. Would you say this is pretty 
seemless '? Airplaying music via Apple TV is a pain. 

Thanks,
Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I don't care that much for apple music.  I tried it with a free 
> subscriptionand quickly canceled it.  I've got a google home and I 
> think it has way much more music to choose from then apple does.  When 
> I listen to music, I listen to a lot of bluegrass and classic country 
> and apple music just doesn't have very much of that genre when 
> compared to google.  Also, with Siri, I can get her to play things 
> from youtube music, or use my google assistant which both youtube 
> music and google assistant are both working great now with IOS 13.7.
> I like that I've got loads of music at my disposal if I say go over to 
> my sisters house for thanksgiving and want to listen to some music 
> while using a set of bluetooth headphones.  It all depends on what 
> smartspeaker you are most familiar with.
> 
>> On 11/27/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I 
>> would like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff 
>> I want her to play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can 
>> easily get played on Google devices, thinking of foreign radio 
>> stations in particular. How would you compare the homePod mini to the 
>> homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to have the same sound. I don’t 
>> know if you have echoes. But I would be curious comparing that 
>> HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience there.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Traci and List,
>>> 
>>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple 
>>> Watches connected to my network.
>>> 
>>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are 
>>> perfect for me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. 
>>> I also have a Sonos system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic 
>>> and they can all be very easily controlled with Siri. You can have 
>>> music playing in one room, all rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>>> 
>>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So 
>>> controlling the HomePods with my voice is much easier and more 
>>> seamless than trying to control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get 
>>> me wrong, the Sonos sounds great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy 
>>> as the HomePods are.
>>> Again, the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with 
>>> Apple devices and if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
 
 Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod 
 mini is the best Airplay speaker for the price?
 
 The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
 
 What are your thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Traci
 
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RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Apparently the new Nest Audio speakers which sell for the same price as the 
HomePod Mini are supposed to sound very good for that price range of speakers.
I think for somebody who has a Sonos system set up with Alexa there is not as 
much need for a HomePod, you can set up Apple Music as your default service in 
the Alexa app so I can ask any of my Sonos speakers to play whatever music I 
want to hear and it will come from Apple Music.
Of course Alexa does most of your home automation if you are into this sort of 
thing, all of our lights are Philips Hue lights and we have a connected 
Honeywell T5 thermostat and all of that works through Alexa.
In the bathroom a set of Sonos One speakers are all we have, in the kitchen we 
have a set of Sonos One speakers as well as a Google, can't remember the name, 
but it's one with the video/display which my wife likes. In the bedroom we have 
a set of Sonos Play 5, but since those don't have built-in Alexa, we also have 
a stand-alone Echo Dot, it's an older one, but I just ordered one of the new 
4th generation Echo Dot with clock, again so my wife can easily take a look if 
she wants to check the time. We also have a Google Home Mini in the bedroom 
because when it comes to asking questions like a phone number for a particular 
business, general facts or even making phone calls, I find the Google Home 
Mini/Google Assistant is much better at it.
In the living room we have a Sonos surround system, currently the original 
Playbar with a first generation Sonos Sub and a set of Play 1 for rear 
speakers, but I just bought my wife a nice new 55 inch OLED TV for Christmas, 
it's an LG, so we will also upgrade the Sonos because we would want the full 
Dolby Atmos experience and you only get this with the new Arc soundbar. I still 
have one old Sonos Connect which I can use to get a 30% discount on a new 
product so I'll use it to buy a new surround package which will save me almost 
$700 Canadian and I will probably sell my Playbar/Sub/Play 1 speakers as a 
package which should finance about half of the remaining purchase price. We 
then have an Echo Show 8 in the living room because of our Ring Doorbell and 
because it's so easy to just say "Alexa, connect to Front Door".
When Apple announced the HomePod Mini I pretty much said that for that price I 
would buy one, but for now I won't, beyond giving me SIRI access which I do 
have through my phone it won't really offer anything, it would just be another 
device we could ask to turn on the lights or change the temperature and we can 
do that already with Alexa and Google Assistant. If you don't yet have any 
smart speakers or maybe just one Echo or Google, then a set of HomePod Mini in 
stereo mode would probably be quite nice.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi Robert,
I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would like 
them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her to play 
that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played on Google 
devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How would you 
compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to have the 
same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be curious comparing 
that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Traci and List,
> 
> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
> connected to my network.
> 
> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
> me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
> system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
> easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all 
> rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
> 
> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to 
> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds great 
> and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, the 
> HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and if you 
> subscribe to Apple Music.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is the 
>> best Airplay speaker for the price?
>> 
>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>> 
>> What are your thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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Re: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Pretty much all of my bluetooth headphones or speakers whether
expensive or not, do not show the battery level in the status bar any
more.  However, I have gotten good at getting to the first page on my
screen then quickly getting to the battery status.

On 11/28/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> That feature is all over the place, I also have relatively inexpensive
> Bluetooth devices which show the battery level and more expensive ones which
> don't. I haven't used them in a while, but I think my Aftershokz Titanium or
> whatever they are called which weren't exactly cheap, don't show it,
> either.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 9:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone
>
> A little update. My Plantronics e50 earpiece, which I paid less than $30 for
> a few years ago, shows the battery percentage in the status bar and on the
> widget.Go figure.
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>  Thanks, that confirms it for me.
>
> I wrote Apple accessibility.
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> They must have broken something with the last update. I know before with my
> H800 headset it would give the battery level on the widget. Also in the
> status bar it never showed charge 0. So I am thinking the last update of IOS
> broke the todays battery widget  because it use to work just fine.
> Mr. Ed
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 1:34 PM
> To: ViPone list
> Subject: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone
>
> When I check my status bar while the h800 headphones are connected, it says
> bluetooth headset connect 0 percent charge.
> This is while I am listening to them, so obviously they are not dead.
> I've added the battery widget to the Today screen but it only shows the
> watch and my phone.
> Am I missing something, or do these just not show up correctly?
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
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RE: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That feature is all over the place, I also have relatively inexpensive 
Bluetooth devices which show the battery level and more expensive ones which 
don't. I haven't used them in a while, but I think my Aftershokz Titanium or 
whatever they are called which weren't exactly cheap, don't show it, either.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone

A little update. My Plantronics e50 earpiece, which I paid less than $30 for a 
few years ago, shows the battery percentage in the status bar and on the 
widget.Go figure.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Nov 26, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
 Thanks, that confirms it for me.

I wrote Apple accessibility.

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Nov 26, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

Hi Richard,
They must have broken something with the last update. I know before with my 
H800 headset it would give the battery level on the widget. Also in the status 
bar it never showed charge 0. So I am thinking the last update of IOS broke the 
todays battery widget  because it use to work just fine.
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 1:34 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Logitech H800 and bluetooth battery showing up on iPhone

When I check my status bar while the h800 headphones are connected, it says 
bluetooth headset connect 0 percent charge.
This is while I am listening to them, so obviously they are not dead.
I've added the battery widget to the Today screen but it only shows the watch 
and my phone.
Am I missing something, or do these just not show up correctly?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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RE: Opinions on HomePod mini?

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Robert for this information.  The Echo dot was never intended for music, 
unless you have the model that can connect to an external speaker.
The full sized Echo and Echo Show are supposed to have pretty good sound, but I 
suspect nothing near the Sonos or Homepod quality.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Carter
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

Hi,

You can link the HomePod with the HomePod mini to play the same music in 
different rooms. You cannot create a stereo pair using a regular HomePod and a 
HomePod Mini. You have to have two of the same type of Homepods to create a 
stereo pair.

I use my HomePods to primarily play Apple Music, Podcasts and online radio 
stations. While Siri can occasionally get cranky about a particular radio 
station, I really don’t have much trouble.

I don’t have any experience with Google music so can’t say whether there is a 
lot more there. I will say that it is very rare that I can’t find what I want 
to hear on Apple Music.

I had an Echo Dot for a little while but decided that I really don’t trust 
Amazon the way I do Apple so I got rid of the Dot. The Dot did not sound 
anywhere near as good as either the HomePod or the HomePod Mini. It is 
definitely not designed for delivering quality music.

All of this is pretty subjective and you have to figure out what you want to 
listen to and try to find out which of the streaming services and smart 
speakers deliver the most of what you want.

I personally have found that the Apple service and devices meet my needs really 
well. I have the complete Sonos system. Two Play 5 speakers, the TV Soundbar 
and the large Sub. It sounds really good but the HomePods in a stereo pair give 
the Sonos a run for its money. At least to my ears. If the HomePods had been 
available at the time, I would have felt no need to purchase a Sonos system.

Robert Carter

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would 
> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her to 
> play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played on 
> Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How would 
> you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to 
> have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be curious 
> comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience 
> there.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Traci and List,
>> 
>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
>> connected to my network.
>> 
>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
>> me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
>> system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
>> easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all 
>> rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>> 
>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
>> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to 
>> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds 
>> great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, 
>> the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and 
>> if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is 
>>> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>> 
>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>> 
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> 
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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

You can link the HomePod with the HomePod mini to play the same music in 
different rooms. You cannot create a stereo pair using a regular HomePod and a 
HomePod Mini. You have to have two of the same type of Homepods to create a 
stereo pair.

I use my HomePods to primarily play Apple Music, Podcasts and online radio 
stations. While Siri can occasionally get cranky about a particular radio 
station, I really don’t have much trouble.

I don’t have any experience with Google music so can’t say whether there is a 
lot more there. I will say that it is very rare that I can’t find what I want 
to hear on Apple Music.

I had an Echo Dot for a little while but decided that I really don’t trust 
Amazon the way I do Apple so I got rid of the Dot. The Dot did not sound 
anywhere near as good as either the HomePod or the HomePod Mini. It is 
definitely not designed for delivering quality music.

All of this is pretty subjective and you have to figure out what you want to 
listen to and try to find out which of the streaming services and smart 
speakers deliver the most of what you want.

I personally have found that the Apple service and devices meet my needs really 
well. I have the complete Sonos system. Two Play 5 speakers, the TV Soundbar 
and the large Sub. It sounds really good but the HomePods in a stereo pair give 
the Sonos a run for its money. At least to my ears. If the HomePods had been 
available at the time, I would have felt no need to purchase a Sonos system.

Robert Carter

> On Nov 27, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I would 
> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want her to 
> play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get played on 
> Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How would 
> you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not going to 
> have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be curious 
> comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have any experience 
> there.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Traci and List,
>> 
>> I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple Watches 
>> connected to my network.
>> 
>> I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are perfect for 
>> me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have a Sonos 
>> system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all be very 
>> easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one room, all 
>> rooms or only the rooms that you choose.
>> 
>> I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling the 
>> HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to 
>> control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds 
>> great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are. Again, 
>> the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple devices and 
>> if you subscribe to Apple Music.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini is 
>>> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>>> 
>>> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>>> 
>>> What are your thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> 
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Re: Question regarding this speak screen/expand speaking bar message that I keep getting on my iPhone

[Richard Turner]

You have that feature turn on.You can turn it off by going to: Accessibility → 
Spoken Content




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 28, 2020, at 3:10 AM, Dacia Luck  wrote:

What in the world is this speak screen bar thing on the iPhone? It keeps 
coming up on my phone in random places, and it won’t go away. Is this something 
I can remove or do something about? It will sometimes interfere with me 
navigating to things on my phone. I have an iPhone 8 running the latest iOS 
version. sometimes it will say things like speak screen and then it will say 
expands speaking bar.

Sent from my iPhone

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Question regarding this speak screen/expand speaking bar message that I keep getting on my iPhone

[Dacia Luck]

What in the world is this speak screen bar thing on the iPhone? It keeps coming 
up on my phone in random places, and it won’t go away. Is this something I can 
remove or do something about? It will sometimes interfere with me navigating to 
things on my phone. I have an iPhone 8 running the latest iOS version. 
sometimes it will say things like speak screen and then it will say expands 
speaking bar.

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Re: Opinions on HomePod mini?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

You could play your music apps and bard mobile through any good
sounding bluetooth speaker.  I just actually got this $30 bluetooth
speaker that sounds better then I expected and things like youtube
muisic, pandora, or bard mobile sound really good.  There are loads of
bluetooth speakers out there.  It just depends on how much you want to
spend on them.  I've gotten some speakers in the $60 range that are
quite good.  I'd actually like to sell a couple of my speakers.  Good
luck in finding which option is best for you.

On 11/27/20, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Hi all, there are features of the Homepod Mini that interest me, but
> honestly, it is mostly for the airplay capabilities.  I want to use my
> i'devices and play from the apps. Pandora, Bard Moble, Amazon Music. Would
> you say this is pretty seemless '? Airplaying music via Apple TV is a pain.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Traci
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't care that much for apple music.  I tried it with a free
>> subscriptionand quickly canceled it.  I've got a google home and I
>> think it has way much more music to choose from then apple does.  When
>> I listen to music, I listen to a lot of bluegrass and classic country
>> and apple music just doesn't have very much of that genre when
>> compared to google.  Also, with Siri, I can get her to play things
>> from youtube music, or use my google assistant which both youtube
>> music and google assistant are both working great now with IOS 13.7.
>> I like that I've got loads of music at my disposal if I say go over to
>> my sisters house for thanksgiving and want to listen to some music
>> while using a set of bluetooth headphones.  It all depends on what
>> smartspeaker you are most familiar with.
>>
>>> On 11/27/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> I have a pair of HomePods in the living room, and I do like them. I
>>> would
>>> like them more when Siri gets better and actually playing stuff I want
>>> her
>>> to play that’s not part of Apple Music. Stuff that I can easily get
>>> played
>>> on Google devices, thinking of foreign radio stations in particular. How
>>> would you compare the homePod mini to the homePod? Obviously, it’s not
>>> going
>>> to have the same sound. I don’t know if you have echoes. But I would be
>>> curious comparing that HomePod mini to others in its class if you have
>>> any
>>> experience there.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Nov 27, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:

 Hi Traci and List,

 I am all into the Apple ecosystem. I have Macs, iPhones and Apple
 Watches
 connected to my network.

 I want to use Siri as my digital assistant. So, the HomePods are
 perfect
 for me. I have three regular HomePods and two homePods Mini. I also have
 a
 Sonos system. To my ears, the HomePods sound fantastic and they can all
 be
 very easily controlled with Siri. You can have music playing in one
 room,
 all rooms or only the rooms that you choose.

 I should also mention that I subscribe to Apple Music. So controlling
 the
 HomePods with my voice is much easier and more seamless than trying to
 control the Sonos through its app. Don’t get me wrong, the Sonos sounds
 great and is easy to use. It just isn’t as easy as the HomePods are.
 Again, the HomePods are especially great if you are all in with Apple
 devices and if you subscribe to Apple Music.

 Robert Carter



> On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>
> Hi all, something I’m wondering is, do you feel like the HomePod mini
> is
> the best Airplay speaker for the price?
>
> The only other option seems to be the $179-$199 Sonos 1.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Traci
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