Re: Super strange Iphone bug

[Yohandy]

I have both a Braille and Bluetooth keyboard, although I wasn't using it 
at the time. BTW I definitely appreciate all the help guys!





On 3/25/2021 4:04 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Do you have any Bluetooth keyboards connected, braille or QWERTY?


Richard

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it every day 
and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown



On Mar 24, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Yohandy  wrote:

Hey all,

So I'm not sure if this is my phone, or if I perhaps broke some IOS setting, but it 
appears my Iphone keyboard either vanishes completely, or is having some weird issues. 
When I enter a text editing area, I hear this beeping sound. when I swipe past the text 
field, I hear another sound. However, when I'm actually on a text field, I can't type 
most of the time. At one point, I received a message that said, "keyboard 
shown", which leads me to believe it's some sort of keyboard issue, but no clue what 
could've caused it.


It is also super difficult to reset settings and perform software updates, 
because the password field isn't showing up with voiceover. However I can still 
type in Braille. I managed to reset keyboard settings, but that didn't fix the 
issue. I'm trying to avoid a full reset. This is totally bizarre. Hopefully 
someone's experienced this odd behavior and can help. thanks!


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RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mary,

I certainly agree with your statements. I have not experienced spatial audio 
yet, but I do look forward to experiencing it. I will try it with Hulu. I 
wonder if Dizney Plus has it?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has it. I 
should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other service that 
has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the AirPods Pro, you 
can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And it’s very impressive. 
So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite 
awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t go for it, but why not?

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
interested in hearing that. 

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi richard,

Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Hi Mary, 

No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.

The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.

I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.

O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable. 

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

 

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of 

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

Well, I’ll check and get back to you. Because I have a hearing loss now, I may 
not be able to answer your question. Having said that, I do have Bluetooth 
Hearing aids. I wonder if both devices would work? That might allow for me to 
check this out. It will be an interesting experiment. By the way, after wearing 
hearing aids most of the day, It’s nice to wear something over my ears that 
than having something inside my ears. I’ll get back to you later today.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

 

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

 

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

 

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

 

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

My iPhone is locked, and the Air Pods Max work fine. I have not done anything 
to make that happen that I am aware of. There could be something in Settings on 
your device that may need to be changed.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

The only thing I don't like about it is that you can't use it when the device 
is locked. Unless there's a way to get that working that I haven't discovered? 
hahaha

 

On 3/27/2021 12:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has it. I 
should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other service that 
has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the AirPods Pro, you 
can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And it’s very impressive. 
So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite 
awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t go for it, but why not?

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
  wrote:

 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
interested in hearing that. 

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten   
 wrote:

 

Hi richard,

Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  
  wrote:

 Hi Mary, 

No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.

The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.

I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.

O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable. 

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten   
 wrote:

 

Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
  wrote:

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Yohandy]

The only thing I don't like about it is that you can't use it when the 
device is locked. Unless there's a way to get that working that I 
haven't discovered? hahaha



On 3/27/2021 12:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu 
has it. I should go double check, because I know there’s at least one 
other service that has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in 
for the AirPods Pro, you can just hear a little sample of what it 
sounds like. And it’s very impressive. So I’m thinking that if it gets 
adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite awesome. Of course maybe 
competing services won’t go for it, but why not?



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
interested in hearing that.



Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep 
you living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're 
retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and 
one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka 
into urine. I do it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown




On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi richard,
Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before 
buying the AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for 
what they are. I don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. 
They have a nice wide soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, 
if others would get on board with it would be awesome.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 Hi Mary,
No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I 
will use the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer 
headphones that go over the ear.
The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so 
that they sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are 
really in your own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is 
not noticeable.

Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that 
keep you living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're 
retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background 
and one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and 
vodka into urine. I do it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- 
Author unknown




On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of 
my range, seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of 
months and won’t be getting Social Security for another year. So 
I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have AirPods Pro? I ask 
because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with spacial 
audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it 
catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was 
surprised how very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've 
heard about them, but holding them in your hands for the first 
time, everything about them screams quality!


Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some 
people call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart 
Bra"; but I would go with pouch.  I don't know if they changed 
the material, but the descriptions I had heard made me think I 
was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of stretchy 
like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, 
this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon. My wife says 
it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a 
purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no 
charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep 
sleep…


Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the 
average headphones but so well designed you don't notice that 
much after putting them on.


Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather 
hits how much I'll want to have them on.


But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works 
with Apple, they are fabulous!


One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency 
Mode.


There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While 
you are listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you 
turn on Transparency mode, those microphones allow you to hear 
the outside world without diminishing the sound quality of 
whatever you are listening to. Unlike 

Using iPhone Microphone While Using AirPods?

[Brandon A. Olivares]

Hi,

Is there a way to use the microphone on the iPhone, but while using the AirPods 
to listen to VoiceOver? My wife wants to go live on Facebook, but without 
VoiceOver coming across in the stream, but the AirPods microphone filters sound 
too much to be useful for what she wants to do. Is this possible somehow?

Thanks,
Brandon

“Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven” – Satan, from Milton’s Paradise 
Lost



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RE: Trouble answering phone calls

[Simon A Fogarty]

Do a two finger double tap to answer and end the call.

From: rhs via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 3:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Trouble answering phone calls

Hi,

I have the latest IOS on my iPhone XR.  When I receive a phone call the name 
pops up like you’d expect and I can double tap to answer.  However, if I touch 
the screen in some way that moves the focus the caller and the answer button 
disappear.  The phone still rings but I can’t figure out how to answer it.

Any directions would be appreciated.

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Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
I'm just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Hi Richard,
I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

Now, as for the headphones themselves…
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.
They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.
But an 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Mary Otten]

Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has it. I 
should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other service that 
has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the AirPods Pro, you 
can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And it’s very impressive. 
So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite 
awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t go for it, but why not?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
> interested in hearing that.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying 
>> the AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. 
>> I don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
>> soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
>> with it would be awesome.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi Mary,
>>> No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use 
>>> the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go 
>>> over the ear.
>>> The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that 
>>> they sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
>>> I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in 
>>> your own little world.
>>> I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
>>> O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
>>> noticeable. 
>>> Later,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
>>> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
>>> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
>>> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
>>> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
>>> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 
 Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my 
 range, seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and 
 won’t be getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a 
 sale. Smile. Do you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and 
 I’ve been very impressed with spacial audio, but it’s not available very 
 many places. I think if it catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely 
 stunning.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how 
> very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but 
> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them 
> screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call 
> the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go 
> with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the 
> descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of 
> thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's 
> clothing.  However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  
> My wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like 
> a purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of 
> its own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>  
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting 
> them on.
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits 
> how much I'll want to have them on.
>  
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with 
> Apple, they are fabulous!
>  
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very interested 
in hearing that.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi richard,
Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Hi Mary,
No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.
The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.
I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable.
Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

Now, as for the headphones themselves…
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Pete Nalda]

Note you can change the volume direction of that crown, I made mine higher to 
the back, as then it feels like I’m turning it clockwise, like you’d do on most 
stereos. I’m impressed at your detailed correlation of all the mics and 
transparency!  Transparency on the iPod pro isn’t nearly as effective. I sort 
of implied this on a post to Mac Visionaries, but not in as much detail. 
Transparency on the AirPod Max is really approaching augmented reality 
territory!  Especially when you turn down the music.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them 
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
> "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
> pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
> heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
> stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this 
> one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks 
> odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be 
> quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the 
> headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>  
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
> on.
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how 
> much I'll want to have them on.
>  
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, 
> they are fabulous!
>  
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without 
> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other 
> things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if 
> someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.
>  
> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it 
> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>  
> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in 
> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music. 
>  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
> enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>  
> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
> is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
> Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
> since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
> with the computer for Jaws.
> They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  
> Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the 
> cable even if the battery is dead.
> But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
> cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that 
> works all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the 
> button that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is 
> nowhere near as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's 
> happening around you more than with it off.
>  
> I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.
>  
> There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
> side of the bar that goes over your head.
> The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
> that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
> The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a 
> large version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and 
> playing, and holding it to ask siri.
> That is all I know so far.
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi Mary,
> No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use 
> the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go 
> over the ear.
> The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
> sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
> I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
> own little world.
> I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
> O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
> noticeable. 
> Later,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
>> seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be 
>> getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do 
>> you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very 
>> impressed with spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I 
>> think if it catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how 
>>> very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but 
>>> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them 
>>> screams quality!
>>>  
>>> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call 
>>> the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go 
>>> with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the 
>>> descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of 
>>> thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's 
>>> clothing.  However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My 
>>> wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a 
>>> purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its 
>>> own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>>>  
>>> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
>>> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
>>> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting 
>>> them on.
>>> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how 
>>> much I'll want to have them on.
>>>  
>>> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, 
>>> they are fabulous!
>>>  
>>> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
>>> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
>>> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
>>> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without 
>>> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike 
>>> other things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, 
>>> if someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.
>>>  
>>> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it 
>>> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
>>> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>>>  
>>> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in 
>>> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
>>> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some 
>>> music.  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, 
>>> but not enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>>>  
>>> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
>>> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
>>> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when 
>>> it is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug 
>>> into my Dell laptop.  I have to turn 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I won't be getting any stimilus chec but I'm glad for those that did
get their checks.  The apple max headphones just cost way to much
money for me.
They do sound very cool.  I'll probably save up for a pair of bose
headphones.  Maybe I could get the apple max headphones, but it would
take me quite a while to save up that kind of money.  I'm glad they
are designed so well.  I tried out a pair of sony xm4 headphones that
were supposed to be so good, but they look so cheaply made, I sent
them back for a refund.

On 3/26/21, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how
> sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was
> close to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and
> listened to the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone
> call. The person on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no
> difficulty hearing him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the
> pods working via Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to
> them when I wish to use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice
> to switch sound output, so I will check that out. I still have set up to do
> for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed without difficulty. They are
> expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our Stimulus check to get them,
> except I am paying them off over six equal payments on my Apple Card, as
> well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not a lot, but
> everything helps!
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>
>
>
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>
>
>
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call
> the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go
> with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions
> I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was
> kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.
> However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it
> still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it
> appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just
> tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>
>
>
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
>
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting
> them on.
>
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how
> much I'll want to have them on.
>
>
>
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple,
> they are fabulous!
>
>
>
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
>
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are
> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency
> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without
> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike
> other things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So,
> if someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left
> side.
>
>
>
> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it
> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise
> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>
>
>
> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in
> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise
> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some
> music.  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background,
> but not enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>
>
>
> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM
> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over
> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when
> it is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into
> my Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the
> headphones since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself
> using them with the computer for Jaws.
>
> They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.
> Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the
> cable even if the battery is dead.
>
> But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with 

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

 

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

 

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

 

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

 

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

 

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.

They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.

But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more than with it off.

 

I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.

 

There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
side of the bar that goes over your head.

The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
that toggles between 

Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Richard Turner]

My wife is having the same issue on her iPad mini.
She did a web search, and there are reports going back a long way from people 
having this very issue.
No solutions yet.
So, if anyone who does not have an Apple music subscription is having the same 
issue of Siri insisting it cannot fine the music you want on Apple Music even 
though its on your device and you are as irritated as I am, please write Apple, 
and Apple Accessibility even though this is not strickly an accessibility issue.
I plan to go to www.apple.com/feedback and submit a report.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 I wish I could identify when this started.
I had not used Siri to play music for a while since we got the Sonos speaker 
systems and have been using Alexa on them.
So I do not know if it was a iOS 14 update, or if it is because of connecting 
the Airpods Max.
But quite annoying.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Richard,

I don't ever have any problems getting Siri to play music I've downloaded to my 
iPhone using iTunes playlists. But I'm using the lowly second generation 
Airpods, not the Airpods Max.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

I must admit I was not aware that Siri could play music stored locally on a 
device!

I have only tried it with an active Apple Music subscription.

Just goes to show that you can learn something new every day.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 26 Mar 2021, at 23:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I just experienced that too, then I realized, when she asks if you want to 
reply, you have to say yes, then she will ask what you want to say.
I forgot that step.
Is that maybe what happened for you?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

Richard:

I find Siri very frustrating most of the time.  The other day my sister sent me 
a text message with a question.  Siri read the message and asked me if I wanted 
to reply.  I said ‘yes’ and Siri asked me what I wanted to reply.  I answered 
my sister’s question with the word’' ‘no’ and Siri said ‘OK, I won’t send the 
message.’

Now that happened three times, until I just said ‘negative’, instead of ‘no’.
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Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Richard Turner]

I wish I could identify when this started.
I had not used Siri to play music for a while since we got the Sonos speaker 
systems and have been using Alexa on them.
So I do not know if it was a iOS 14 update, or if it is because of connecting 
the Airpods Max.
But quite annoying.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Richard,

I don't ever have any problems getting Siri to play music I've downloaded to my 
iPhone using iTunes playlists. But I'm using the lowly second generation 
Airpods, not the Airpods Max.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

I must admit I was not aware that Siri could play music stored locally on a 
device!

I have only tried it with an active Apple Music subscription.

Just goes to show that you can learn something new every day.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 26 Mar 2021, at 23:56, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I just experienced that too, then I realized, when she asks if you want to 
reply, you have to say yes, then she will ask what you want to say.
I forgot that step.
Is that maybe what happened for you?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

Richard:

I find Siri very frustrating most of the time.  The other day my sister sent me 
a text message with a question.  Siri read the message and asked me if I wanted 
to reply.  I said ‘yes’ and Siri asked me what I wanted to reply.  I answered 
my sister’s question with the word’' ‘no’ and Siri said ‘OK, I won’t send the 
message.’

Now that happened three times, until I just said ‘negative’, instead of ‘no’.
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Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

They are, and I hope you are sitting down, $549.
And if you want the cable to use them with non-Bluetooth devices its $35.
Apple Care is $59.
So, I'm very blessed to have been able to get them.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

How much do these miracles cost???
At 07:39 PM 3/26/2021, you wrote:

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!



Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…



Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.



But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!



One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.



Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.



I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.



Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.

They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.

But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more than with it off.



I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.



There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
side of the bar that goes over your head.

The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.

The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a large 
version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and playing, 
and holding it to ask siri.

That is all I know so far.



Later,



















Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, 

RE: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

 

I don't ever have any problems getting Siri to play music I've downloaded to my 
iPhone using iTunes playlists. But I'm using the lowly second generation 
Airpods, not the Airpods Max.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

 

I must admit I was not aware that Siri could play music stored locally on a 
device!

 

I have only tried it with an active Apple Music subscription.

 

Just goes to show that you can learn something new every day.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 26 Mar 2021, at 23:56, Richard Turner  wrote:

 

I just experienced that too, then I realized, when she asks if you want to 
reply, you have to say yes, then she will ask what you want to say.

I forgot that step.

Is that maybe what happened for you?

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

 

Richard:

 

I find Siri very frustrating most of the time.  The other day my sister sent me 
a text message with a question.  Siri read the message and asked me if I wanted 
to reply.  I said ‘yes’ and Siri asked me what I wanted to reply.  I answered 
my sister’s question with the word’' ‘no’ and Siri said ‘OK, I won’t send the 
message.’

 

Now that happened three times, until I just said ‘negative’, instead of ‘no’.

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Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Ann Byrne]

How much do these miracles cost???
At 07:39 PM 3/26/2021, you wrote:

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed 
them and was surprised how very sturdy and solid 
they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but 
holding them in your hands for the first time, 
everything about them screams quality!




Now, everything I have read about the "smart 
case" which some people call the "smart pouch", 
and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I 
would go with pouch.  I don't know if they 
changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh 
kind of thing that was kind of stretchy like the 
afore mention article of women's 
clothing.  However, this one feels like 
polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it 
still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, 
more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, 
it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…




Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are 
heavier than the average headphones but so well 
designed you don't notice that much after putting them on.


Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when 
the warm weather hits how much I'll want to have them on.




But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind 
of just works with Apple, they are fabulous!




One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the 
headphones.  While you are listening over 
Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on 
Transparency mode, those microphones allow you 
to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening 
to.  Unlike other things I have had that tried 
to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if 
someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.




Those microphones are used to assist with the 
noise cancelation mode so it can tell what the 
outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when 
Noise Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.




I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when 
my wife turned on the TV in the living room, the 
sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on 
Noise Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV 
while I was listening to some music.  Between 
songs, I could tell something was on in the far 
background, but not enough to identify it or be bothered by it.




Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug 
them into a standard 3.5 MM earphone jack like 
on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It 
is over price.  But, while you do not get the 
fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it is 
running all of it processes, they sound fine for 
speech when plug into my Dell laptop.  I have to 
turn the volume up on the computer or the 
headphones since they take more power to drive 
them, but I could see myself using them with the computer for Jaws.


They apparently do have to be charged to use 
them with the cable even.  Unlike my old 
Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be 
used with the cable even if the battery is dead.


But an interesting note about the Transparency 
Mode when using them with the cable.  There 
appears to be at least one microphone on the 
right ear that works all the time when the cable 
is plugged in.  But, if you press the button 
that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the 
microphones come on.  It is nowhere near as loud 
or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear 
what's happening around you more than with it off.




I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.



There are only two buttons on the right 
ear.  They are on the top on either side of the bar that goes over your head.


The one on the side of the bar nearest your face 
is a rectangular/oval button that toggles 
between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.


The one on the other side of the bar is the 
round, Digital Crown.  Like a large version of 
the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, 
pausing and playing, and holding it to ask siri.


That is all I know so far.



Later,



















Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow 
any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.






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Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Andy Baracco]

Yesterday I received a notice that mine will be arriving next Friday.  it will 
miss my birthday by 4 days, but it will be 11 days earlier than the date that 
was originally given.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours


  Hi Mary, 
  No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use 
the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go 
over the ear.
  The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
  I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.
  I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
  O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable. 
  Later,



  Richard


  "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  
  "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
  Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


 
Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my 
range, seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be 
getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do 
you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very 
impressed with spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think 
if it catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.



Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


   
  I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how 
very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding 
them in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!



  Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call 
the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…



  Now, as for the headphones themselves…

  I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

  Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits 
how much I'll want to have them on.



  But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with 
Apple, they are fabulous!



  One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

  There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.



  Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so 
it can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.



  I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV 
in the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.



  Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.

  They apparently do have to be charged to use them with 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mary,
No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.
The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.
I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable.
Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

Now, as for the headphones themselves…
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.
They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.
But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Mary Otten]

Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them 
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
> "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
> pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
> heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
> stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this 
> one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks 
> odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be 
> quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the 
> headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>  
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
> on.
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how 
> much I'll want to have them on.
>  
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, 
> they are fabulous!
>  
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without 
> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other 
> things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if 
> someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.
>  
> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it 
> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>  
> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in 
> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music. 
>  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
> enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>  
> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
> is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
> Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
> since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
> with the computer for Jaws.
> They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  
> Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the 
> cable even if the battery is dead.
> But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
> cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that 
> works all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the 
> button that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is 
> nowhere near as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's 
> happening around you more than with it off.
>  
> I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.
>  
> There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
> side of the bar that goes over your head.
> The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
> that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
> The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a 
> large version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and 
> playing, and holding it to ask siri.
> That is all I know so far.
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
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RE: Missing Song

[Edward Przybylek]

Hey Richard,

 

The song at the YouTube link you provided is the song I lost but the recording 
I owned is not a live recording.  I’ll look around the Internet and try to find 
another copy of the song.  And, as you suggest, I’ll store it somewhere on my 
computer as well as putting it into my iTunes library.  Thank you and stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

 

Hi Malcom,

I use GoldWave for my basic tagging needs and it is pretty easy.

You have to do that one file at a time, so in that sense, it can be a nightmare 
if you have lots to do at one time.

I have found that Apple sometimes pulls CD data from a database with absolutely 
stupid information and so after getting all my CD’s from 30 plus years of 
collecting them imported and fixed in itunes, I only buy albums from Apple as 
downloads.

 

The database they use is particularly bad for audio books on CD.

It isn’t their fault since they pull from some generic resource, but I had an 
audio book that was about 20 CD’s in length and I think only the first CD was 
tagged correctly.

 

That was a true nightmare that I ended up resolving by just buying it from 
audible, so it was one file well marked up, grin.

.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Missing Song

 

Hello Richard,

 

Like you I have transferred music from a variety of sources to my iPhone.  I do 
have an Apple Music subscription and from my experience it makes no difference. 
 I have never had a track deleted for me.

 

MP3 tagging is a nightmare though as I am sure you will agree.

Malcolm Parfitt

 

On 26 Mar 2021, at 17:07, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Well, I can say I have imported old CD’s and miscellaneous cassette recordings 
that I converted to mp3 by artists that Apple doesn’t even know exist and I’ve 
never had a song disappear.

 

I do not have an Apple Music subscription though, if that matters.

 

The thing you will want to do is to make sure the song is tagged correctly, 
which it probably is if you are getting it from another service where you buy 
it.

Just to be safe, I would keep that file somewhere else than in your iTunes 
library as a back up to be certain it isn’t going to vanish.

 

BTW, was the YouTube link I sent you the correct song?

 

I’d not heard of that artist before and am interested.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Edward Przybylek
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Missing Song

 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for the information.  I’ve managed to find the song on music services 
other than the iTunes store.  If I purchase a copy from one of these services 
and then load it into the Music app, do you know if iOS will at some point 
delete the song again because it does not appear in the iTunes store?  I’d hate 
to spend money on the song again only to have it disappear from my iPhone 
again.  Thanks and stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Missing Song

 

If you use any of the tools to convert YouTube videos to mp3, this might do it 
for you:

Blood on the Banjo - YouTube 

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a 

Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep...

Now, as for the headphones themselves...
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.
They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.
But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more than with it off.

I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.

There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
side of the bar that goes over your head.
The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a large 
version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and playing, 
and holding it to ask siri.
That is all I know so far.

Later,









Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



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RE: How to get contact groups created in Outlook to ABC Group Messenger? was RE: Looking for a contact management system

[Richard Turner]

HI alan,
Yes, Outlook is included in Microsoft 365, I just wanted to distinguish between 
it and the stand-alone version.

I agree about Outlook groups.  I did finally get one to kind of work, but I 
mostly just use the ABC Groups on my iPHone when sending to a group, like our 
book club.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to get contact groups created in Outlook to ABC Group 
Messenger? was RE: Looking for a contact management system

Hi Richard,

Methinks you're right. That makes me feel better in that I wasn't messing 
something up but it sure would be nice if they shared. I find Outlook contact 
groups one of the most unintuitive features to implement and edit ever 
introduced by Microsoft.

How do you use Outlook 2016 through Microsoft 365? Doesn't Microsoft 365 
include Outlook?

Alan

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to get contact groups created in Outlook to ABC Group 
Messenger? was RE: Looking for a contact management system

Me thinks they do not share groups.
I use outlook groups and have never seen them show up in ABC groups. You have 
to create them within ABC.
I'm using Outlook 2016 through Microsoft 365.

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard and List,

I suspect my problem relates to using Outlook 2010. I have several contact 
groups I've created in Outlook 2010 on my desktop computer but they don't show 
up in ABC Group Messenger. I've turned on Contacts in iCloud and I've installed 
something called CodeTwo Sync for iCloud in Outlook 2010. However, none of my 
Outlook 2010 contact groups show up in the ABC Group Messenger groups view.

Does anyone else use Outlook contact groups who uses ABC Group Messenger and do 
your Outlook contact groups show up there? Does this happen automatically or 
did you have to jump through some hoops to get them to show up?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a contact management system

Definitely ABC Group
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-group-messenger/id685048714

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown




On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:46 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Give this one a try; I’ve used it but on its free tier and it works like a 
charm! 
https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/a2z-contactos-a2z-contacts/id622492105
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 26 mar 2021, a la(s) 7:41 a.m., Michael Feir 
mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> escribió:

You might want to give Cardhop a look. It's made by the same developer as 
Fantastical. Definitely a step above the basic contacts app included with iOS.

On Fri, 

RE: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Richard Turner]

Well, that is truly worthless.  I'd write Apple Accessibility about that one.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

Richard:

No,, I said ''yes' when she asked me if I wanted to reply.  Then she asked me 
what I wanted to say, and I said the word 'no' and she said 'Ok, I won't send 
the message.
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Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Holly]

Richard:

No,, I said ‘’yes’ when she asked me if I wanted to reply.  Then she asked me 
what I wanted to say, and I said the word ‘no’ and she said ‘Ok, I won’t send 
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RE: How to get contact groups created in Outlook to ABC Group Messenger? was RE: Looking for a contact management system

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Richard,

 

Methinks you're right. That makes me feel better in that I wasn't messing 
something up but it sure would be nice if they shared. I find Outlook contact 
groups one of the most unintuitive features to implement and edit ever 
introduced by Microsoft.

 

How do you use Outlook 2016 through Microsoft 365? Doesn't Microsoft 365 
include Outlook?

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to get contact groups created in Outlook to ABC Group 
Messenger? was RE: Looking for a contact management system

 

Me thinks they do not share groups. 

I use outlook groups and have never seen them show up in ABC groups. You have 
to create them within ABC.

I'm using Outlook 2016 through Microsoft 365.

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Hi Richard and List,

 

I suspect my problem relates to using Outlook 2010. I have several contact 
groups I've created in Outlook 2010 on my desktop computer but they don't show 
up in ABC Group Messenger. I've turned on Contacts in iCloud and I've installed 
something called CodeTwo Sync for iCloud in Outlook 2010. However, none of my 
Outlook 2010 contact groups show up in the ABC Group Messenger groups view.

 

Does anyone else use Outlook contact groups who uses ABC Group Messenger and do 
your Outlook contact groups show up there? Does this happen automatically or 
did you have to jump through some hoops to get them to show up?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a contact management system

 

Definitely ABC Group 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-group-messenger/id685048714 

  

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 




 






On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:46 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

 Give this one a try; I’ve used it but on its free tier and it works like a 
charm! https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/a2z-contactos-a2z-contacts/id622492105 

 

Gera 

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel






El 26 mar 2021, a la(s) 7:41 a.m., Michael Feir  
escribió:

 

You might want to give Cardhop a look. It's made by the same developer as 
Fantastical. Definitely a step above the basic contacts app included with iOS.

 

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 8:10 AM dean martineau  wrote:

I would love to find, for a student, a powerful and accessible contact 
management system for the iPhone. The goal is to be able to create contact 
groups. It would be ideal to be able to add a contact, perhaps  a contact from 
the native Contact system, to one or more contact groups. Does such a thing  
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Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I must admit I was not aware that Siri could play music stored locally on a 
device!

I have only tried it with an active Apple Music subscription.

Just goes to show that you can learn something new every day.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Mar 2021, at 23:56, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just experienced that too, then I realized, when she asks if you want to 
> reply, you have to say yes, then she will ask what you want to say.
> I forgot that step.
> Is that maybe what happened for you?
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Richard:
>  
> I find Siri very frustrating most of the time.  The other day my sister sent 
> me a text message with a question.  Siri read the message and asked me if I 
> wanted to reply.  I said ‘yes’ and Siri asked me what I wanted to reply.  I 
> answered my sister’s question with the word’' ‘no’ and Siri said ‘OK, I won’t 
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RE: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Richard Turner]

I just experienced that too, then I realized, when she asks if you want to 
reply, you have to say yes, then she will ask what you want to say.
I forgot that step.
Is that maybe what happened for you?



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Richard:

I find Siri very frustrating most of the time.  The other day my sister sent me 
a text message with a question.  Siri read the message and asked me if I wanted 
to reply.  I said 'yes' and Siri asked me what I wanted to reply.  I answered 
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message.'

Now that happened three times, until I just said 'negative', instead of 'no'.
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Re: Is Siri really that worthless?

[Holly]

Richard:

I find Siri very frustrating most of the time.  The other day my sister sent me 
a text message with a question.  Siri read the message and asked me if I wanted 
to reply.  I said ‘yes’ and Siri asked me what I wanted to reply.  I answered 
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Is Siri really that worthless?

[Richard Turner]

YOU have a hint in my subject line.
Until very recently, like today, after I got my Apple Airpods Max headphones, 
if I asked Siri to play an album or a song on my phone, it would do what I 
asked.

Now, all it can say is "I cannot find that on Apple Music."  Well, duh? I don't 
have an Apple Music subscription and Apple Music is off on my iPhone.

Maybe Apple thinks since you bought these very nice, expensive headphones, you 
want to shell out a hundred or so dollars a year for their catalog instead of 
listening to the some 12,000 song you already own.

I will be contacting Apple on this but I just wanted to put it out there.

Blow off a little steam you know.

That way, I will be polite to apple.
Later,

Richard

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Voice control questions

[dean martineau]

I am experimenting with voice control using in SE 2020. I think the feature has 
great potential, but there are some things I haven't figured out. For one 
thing, how do you direct Voice control to  accept spelled words when you need 
to ensure proper recognition? I also find that I don't get any dictation 
feedback. Jonathan MOSEN does when he does his demonstrations,  and I wonder if 
it's because of my phone. Anyway, I would appreciate any suggestions from 
people who use this feature to manage email and text messages among other 
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RE: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

[Les Kriegler]

Yes, I know what you mean. I did finally connect them. Microsoft could not help 
me, but another Apple rep not in accessibility did. I had to go down to my 
headphones in System Tray and open that, and then the Air Pods were recognized. 
Again, the major use with these will be for Apple products, that’s really what 
they were meant for. Thanks.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb Cook 
Lewis
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

 

I was successful in connecting them, but like most Bluetooth devices, they 
really don’t work well in windows at all. It’s windows. My experience was 
similar with other Bluetooth headphones.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

 

Hi All,

I received my AirPods last night. They are working fine with my iPhone. I am 
having problems connecting them to my PC. I powered off my iPhone to make 
certain there was not a conflict. I called Apple Accessibility and we 
eventually got them connected, but no sound comes from them when running Jaws 
on my Pc. I’m not certain they are really connected, as they seem to vacillate 
between connecting and connected. I looked in Sound Settings and do not see 
them listed there. Has anyone been successful in using these with a PC? I will 
also contact Microsoft Accessibility to see what they have to say. A little 
disappointed thus far with this issue, but I do expect it will be resolved. 
After all, they are Bluetooth headphones. I really want to use these with Zoom 
on my Surface Pro 5. Thanks for any assistance.

Best Regards,

 

Les

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Re: How to get contact groups created in Outlook to ABC Group Messenger? was RE: Looking for a contact management system

[Richard Turner]

Me thinks they do not share groups.
I use outlook groups and have never seen them show up in ABC groups. You have 
to create them within ABC.
I'm using Outlook 2016 through Microsoft 365.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi Richard and List,

I suspect my problem relates to using Outlook 2010. I have several contact 
groups I've created in Outlook 2010 on my desktop computer but they don't show 
up in ABC Group Messenger. I've turned on Contacts in iCloud and I've installed 
something called CodeTwo Sync for iCloud in Outlook 2010. However, none of my 
Outlook 2010 contact groups show up in the ABC Group Messenger groups view.

Does anyone else use Outlook contact groups who uses ABC Group Messenger and do 
your Outlook contact groups show up there? Does this happen automatically or 
did you have to jump through some hoops to get them to show up?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a contact management system

Definitely ABC Group
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-group-messenger/id685048714

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown




On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:46 AM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Give this one a try; I’ve used it but on its free tier and it works like a 
charm! 
https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/a2z-contactos-a2z-contacts/id622492105
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 26 mar 2021, a la(s) 7:41 a.m., Michael Feir 
mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> escribió:

You might want to give Cardhop a look. It's made by the same developer as 
Fantastical. Definitely a step above the basic contacts app included with iOS.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 8:10 AM dean martineau 
mailto:top...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I would love to find, for a student, a powerful and accessible contact 
management system for the iPhone. The goal is to be able to create contact 
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How to get contact groups created in Outlook to ABC Group Messenger? was RE: Looking for a contact management system

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Richard and List,

 

I suspect my problem relates to using Outlook 2010. I have several contact 
groups I've created in Outlook 2010 on my desktop computer but they don't show 
up in ABC Group Messenger. I've turned on Contacts in iCloud and I've installed 
something called CodeTwo Sync for iCloud in Outlook 2010. However, none of my 
Outlook 2010 contact groups show up in the ABC Group Messenger groups view.

 

Does anyone else use Outlook contact groups who uses ABC Group Messenger and do 
your Outlook contact groups show up there? Does this happen automatically or 
did you have to jump through some hoops to get them to show up?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a contact management system

 

Definitely ABC Group 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-group-messenger/id685048714 

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:46 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

 Give this one a try; I’ve used it but on its free tier and it works like a 
charm! https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/a2z-contactos-a2z-contacts/id622492105 

 

Gera 

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 26 mar 2021, a la(s) 7:41 a.m., Michael Feir  
escribió:

 

You might want to give Cardhop a look. It's made by the same developer as 
Fantastical. Definitely a step above the basic contacts app included with iOS.

 

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 8:10 AM dean martineau  wrote:

I would love to find, for a student, a powerful and accessible contact 
management system for the iPhone. The goal is to be able to create contact 
groups. It would be ideal to be able to add a contact, perhaps  a contact from 
the native Contact system, to one or more contact groups. Does such a thing  
exist?

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RE: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I was successful in connecting them, but like most Bluetooth devices, they 
really don’t work well in windows at all. It’s windows. My experience was 
similar with other Bluetooth headphones.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

 

Hi All,

I received my AirPods last night. They are working fine with my iPhone. I am 
having problems connecting them to my PC. I powered off my iPhone to make 
certain there was not a conflict. I called Apple Accessibility and we 
eventually got them connected, but no sound comes from them when running Jaws 
on my Pc. I’m not certain they are really connected, as they seem to vacillate 
between connecting and connected. I looked in Sound Settings and do not see 
them listed there. Has anyone been successful in using these with a PC? I will 
also contact Microsoft Accessibility to see what they have to say. A little 
disappointed thus far with this issue, but I do expect it will be resolved. 
After all, they are Bluetooth headphones. I really want to use these with Zoom 
on my Surface Pro 5. Thanks for any assistance.

Best Regards,

 

Les

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Apple releases IOS 14.4.2

[Gordon]

this fixes a critical security vulnerability. It must be a big one since 
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Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

[Les Kriegler]

Hi All,

I received my AirPods last night. They are working fine with my iPhone. I am
having problems connecting them to my PC. I powered off my iPhone to make
certain there was not a conflict. I called Apple Accessibility and we
eventually got them connected, but no sound comes from them when running
Jaws on my Pc. I'm not certain they are really connected, as they seem to
vacillate between connecting and connected. I looked in Sound Settings and
do not see them listed there. Has anyone been successful in using these with
a PC? I will also contact Microsoft Accessibility to see what they have to
say. A little disappointed thus far with this issue, but I do expect it will
be resolved. After all, they are Bluetooth headphones. I really want to use
these with Zoom on my Surface Pro 5. Thanks for any assistance.

Best Regards,

 

Les

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RE: Missing Song

[Richard Turner]

Hi Malcom,
I use GoldWave for my basic tagging needs and it is pretty easy.
You have to do that one file at a time, so in that sense, it can be a nightmare 
if you have lots to do at one time.
I have found that Apple sometimes pulls CD data from a database with absolutely 
stupid information and so after getting all my CD’s from 30 plus years of 
collecting them imported and fixed in itunes, I only buy albums from Apple as 
downloads.

The database they use is particularly bad for audio books on CD.
It isn’t their fault since they pull from some generic resource, but I had an 
audio book that was about 20 CD’s in length and I think only the first CD was 
tagged correctly.

That was a true nightmare that I ended up resolving by just buying it from 
audible, so it was one file well marked up, grin.
.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing Song

Hello Richard,

Like you I have transferred music from a variety of sources to my iPhone.  I do 
have an Apple Music subscription and from my experience it makes no difference. 
 I have never had a track deleted for me.

MP3 tagging is a nightmare though as I am sure you will agree.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 26 Mar 2021, at 17:07, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well, I can say I have imported old CD’s and miscellaneous cassette recordings 
that I converted to mp3 by artists that Apple doesn’t even know exist and I’ve 
never had a song disappear.

I do not have an Apple Music subscription though, if that matters.

The thing you will want to do is to make sure the song is tagged correctly, 
which it probably is if you are getting it from another service where you buy 
it.
Just to be safe, I would keep that file somewhere else than in your iTunes 
library as a back up to be certain it isn’t going to vanish.

BTW, was the YouTube link I sent you the correct song?

I’d not heard of that artist before and am interested.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Edward 
Przybylek
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the information.  I’ve managed to find the song on music services 
other than the iTunes store.  If I purchase a copy from one of these services 
and then load it into the Music app, do you know if iOS will at some point 
delete the song again because it does not appear in the iTunes store?  I’d hate 
to spend money on the song again only to have it disappear from my iPhone 
again.  Thanks and stay well.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

If you use any of the tools to convert YouTube videos to mp3, this might do it 
for you:
Blood on the Banjo - 
YouTube



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Edward 
Przybylek
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

Hi all,

I’m using a PC running the latest release of Windows 10.  The lost song 

Re: Missing Song

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Richard,

Like you I have transferred music from a variety of sources to my iPhone.  I do 
have an Apple Music subscription and from my experience it makes no difference. 
 I have never had a track deleted for me.

MP3 tagging is a nightmare though as I am sure you will agree.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Mar 2021, at 17:07, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I can say I have imported old CD’s and miscellaneous cassette 
> recordings that I converted to mp3 by artists that Apple doesn’t even know 
> exist and I’ve never had a song disappear.
>  
> I do not have an Apple Music subscription though, if that matters.
>  
> The thing you will want to do is to make sure the song is tagged correctly, 
> which it probably is if you are getting it from another service where you buy 
> it.
> Just to be safe, I would keep that file somewhere else than in your iTunes 
> library as a back up to be certain it isn’t going to vanish.
>  
> BTW, was the YouTube link I sent you the correct song?
>  
> I’d not heard of that artist before and am interested.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Edward 
> Przybylek
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Missing Song
>  
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Thanks for the information.  I’ve managed to find the song on music services 
> other than the iTunes store.  If I purchase a copy from one of these services 
> and then load it into the Music app, do you know if iOS will at some point 
> delete the song again because it does not appear in the iTunes store?  I’d 
> hate to spend money on the song again only to have it disappear from my 
> iPhone again.  Thanks and stay well.
>  
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Missing Song
>  
> If you use any of the tools to convert YouTube videos to mp3, this might do 
> it for you:
> Blood on the Banjo - YouTube
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Edward 
> Przybylek
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 6:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Missing Song
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I’m using a PC running the latest release of Windows 10.  The lost song is 
> called Blood On the Banjo by Kate Lee with No Strings Attached.  It no longer 
> appears on the iTunes store and that’s probably why it disappeared from my 
> iPhone.  I think this really sucks.  Thanks.  Stay well.
>  
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 12:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Missing Song
>  
> I may be wrong...It is my understanding that if an app, song etc is hidden, 
> if it is removed from the app store iTunes, even if you have paid for the 
> item it is gone forever. If I’m incorrect, someone please clarify for me.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> A few years ago I purchased a song using the iTunes app.  The song 
> disappeared from my iPhone several months after that.  I tried to redownload 
> the song but no joy.  The song no longer appears in a search with iTunes.  
> Apple accessibility support tried to find the song but to no avail.  They 
> suggested looking at hidden songs and see if it got dumped there.  Support 
> said they can’t help with looking to see if the song was put in the hidden 
> songs list because that has to be done on a computer.  I tried to do that but 
> I didn’t get very far.  I find the screens for finding hidden items to be 
> difficult to use.  If anyone has some steps I can use to look through the 
> hidden items screens or any other suggestions I’d be grateful if you could 
> pass them along.  Thanks.  Stay well.
>  
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
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RE: Missing Song

[Richard Turner]

Well, I can say I have imported old CD’s and miscellaneous cassette recordings 
that I converted to mp3 by artists that Apple doesn’t even know exist and I’ve 
never had a song disappear.

I do not have an Apple Music subscription though, if that matters.

The thing you will want to do is to make sure the song is tagged correctly, 
which it probably is if you are getting it from another service where you buy 
it.
Just to be safe, I would keep that file somewhere else than in your iTunes 
library as a back up to be certain it isn’t going to vanish.

BTW, was the YouTube link I sent you the correct song?

I’d not heard of that artist before and am interested.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Edward 
Przybylek
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the information.  I’ve managed to find the song on music services 
other than the iTunes store.  If I purchase a copy from one of these services 
and then load it into the Music app, do you know if iOS will at some point 
delete the song again because it does not appear in the iTunes store?  I’d hate 
to spend money on the song again only to have it disappear from my iPhone 
again.  Thanks and stay well.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

If you use any of the tools to convert YouTube videos to mp3, this might do it 
for you:
Blood on the Banjo - 
YouTube



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Edward 
Przybylek
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

Hi all,

I’m using a PC running the latest release of Windows 10.  The lost song is 
called Blood On the Banjo by Kate Lee with No Strings Attached.  It no longer 
appears on the iTunes store and that’s probably why it disappeared from my 
iPhone.  I think this really sucks.  Thanks.  Stay well.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Casteen
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Missing Song

I may be wrong...It is my understanding that if an app, song etc is hidden, if 
it is removed from the app store iTunes, even if you have paid for the item it 
is gone forever. If I’m incorrect, someone please clarify for me.

Donna




Hi all,

A few years ago I purchased a song using the iTunes app.  The song disappeared 
from my iPhone several months after that.  I tried to redownload the song but 
no joy.  The song no longer appears in a search with iTunes.  Apple 
accessibility support tried to find the song but to no avail.  They suggested 
looking at hidden songs and see if it got dumped there.  Support said they 
can’t help with looking to see if the song was put in the hidden songs list 
because that has to be done on a computer.  I tried to do that but I didn’t get 
very far.  I find the screens for finding hidden items to be difficult to use.  
If anyone has some steps I can use to look through the hidden items screens or 
any other suggestions I’d be grateful if you could pass them along.  Thanks.  
Stay well.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek

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RE: Missing Song

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for the information.  I’ve managed to find the song on music services 
other than the iTunes store.  If I purchase a copy from one of these services 
and then load it into the Music app, do you know if iOS will at some point 
delete the song again because it does not appear in the iTunes store?  I’d hate 
to spend money on the song again only to have it disappear from my iPhone 
again.  Thanks and stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Missing Song

 

If you use any of the tools to convert YouTube videos to mp3, this might do it 
for you:

Blood on the Banjo - YouTube  

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Edward Przybylek
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Missing Song

 

Hi all,

 

I’m using a PC running the latest release of Windows 10.  The lost song is 
called Blood On the Banjo by Kate Lee with No Strings Attached.  It no longer 
appears on the iTunes store and that’s probably why it disappeared from my 
iPhone.  I think this really sucks.  Thanks.  Stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Casteen
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Missing Song

 

I may be wrong...It is my understanding that if an app, song etc is hidden, if 
it is removed from the app store iTunes, even if you have paid for the item it 
is gone forever. If I’m incorrect, someone please clarify for me.

 

Donna

 

 

 



Hi all,

 

A few years ago I purchased a song using the iTunes app.  The song disappeared 
from my iPhone several months after that.  I tried to redownload the song but 
no joy.  The song no longer appears in a search with iTunes.  Apple 
accessibility support tried to find the song but to no avail.  They suggested 
looking at hidden songs and see if it got dumped there.  Support said they 
can’t help with looking to see if the song was put in the hidden songs list 
because that has to be done on a computer.  I tried to do that but I didn’t get 
very far.  I find the screens for finding hidden items to be difficult to use.  
If anyone has some steps I can use to look through the hidden items screens or 
any other suggestions I’d be grateful if you could pass them along.  Thanks.  
Stay well.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

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Re: Trouble answering phone calls

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello,
You can use double tape with two fingers to answer calls.

Lyne

> Le 26 mars 2021 à 10:37, rhs via VIPhone  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have the latest IOS on my iPhone XR.  When I receive a phone call the name 
> pops up like you’d expect and I can double tap to answer.  However, if I 
> touch the screen in some way that moves the focus the caller and the answer 
> button disappear.  The phone still rings but I can’t figure out how to answer 
> it.
>  
> Any directions would be appreciated.
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RE: babyshark ringtone anyone

[Richard Turner]

Here is one I have used.
It seems to work best with Edge but I used to use it with Firefox.
Be aware, they will pop-up adds for junk but if you close that window you 
should be able to download your converted file.
You put in the URL to the youtube video and tab to the convert button and press 
enter.
After about 30 second or a minute or three, depending on the length of the 
file, if you arrow down you should find the name of the track and a download 
link.
https://ytmp3.cc/youtube-to-mp3/

HTH,

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone

Where is the online converter you mention and does it also do the transfer to 
the phone? Never heard of this before.

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone

YouTube is a great place to find all kinds of music. I love heavy metal and 
have made more than 100 heavy metal ring tones. When I find the song on 
YouTube, I copy the URL and put it into an online YouTube to MP3 converter. I 
then download the MP3 file and fire up the program
MP3 Direct Cut.  I can make countless edits and it does not recode the file and 
diminish the sound quality.  I like that it allows for fades.
After I have 30 seconds of audio, I upload the file to an online converter to 
put it in the M4R format. The M4R file is then downloaded and copied to my 
iPhone. Apple backs up ringtones to iCloud so I will never lose them.

The music is iconic, unique, and catches the attention of everyone in the room.

Kelly



On 3/25/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Then, you also can do as I do, just hit good old Delete and go on with 
> a great day!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>
> And I wish people would follow the instructions at the end of every 
> message instead of actually prolonging the threads they'd aren't 
> interested in.
> Here's what it says at the end of every message:
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 7:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>
> I wish we could close this thread.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>
> Yeah
> Each to their own,
>
> I have the nokia ring tone as my ipHones ring tone,
>
> It's just such a classic I thought it was great,
>
> It does confuse people when I answer my iPhone but it's ringing like a 
> classic nokia device.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 3:55 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone
> Importance: High
>
> I think it's a nice track. also, every one should be free to make 
> there own choice.
> I've got under the sea, from the little mermaid as my ringtone, mainly 
> because I am an open water swimming nut, and am quite often known as 
> the march Merman, March in Cambridgeshire being where I live, and 
> Merman because I spend so much time in the water.
>
> Simon
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:16 AM
> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>
>
>> We shouldn't talk to  him then,
>>
>> It's probably great for little kids but for adults I think it's 
>> annoying myself,
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 1:06 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>>
>> But, if he likes it...?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 6:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>>
>> Yeah no problem 

Re: babyshark ringtone anyone

[Marie]

Where is the online converter you mention and does it also do the transfer 
to the phone? Never heard of this before.


-Original Message- 
From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone

YouTube is a great place to find all kinds of music. I love heavy
metal and have made more than 100 heavy metal ring tones. When I find
the song on YouTube, I copy the URL and put it into an online YouTube
to MP3 converter. I then download the MP3 file and fire up the program
MP3 Direct Cut.  I can make countless edits and it does not recode the
file and diminish the sound quality.  I like that it allows for fades.
After I have 30 seconds of audio, I upload the file to an online
converter to put it in the M4R format. The M4R file is then downloaded
and copied to my iPhone. Apple backs up ringtones to iCloud so I will
never lose them.

The music is iconic, unique, and catches the attention of everyone in the 
room.


Kelly



On 3/25/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Then, you also can do as I do, just hit good old Delete and go on with a
great day!

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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone

And I wish people would follow the instructions at the end of every 
message

instead of actually prolonging the threads they'd aren't interested in.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Larry

Lumpkin
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone

I wish we could close this thread.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Simon

A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone

Yeah
Each to their own,

I have the nokia ring tone as my ipHones ring tone,

It's just such a classic I thought it was great,

It does confuse people when I answer my iPhone but it's ringing like a
classic nokia device.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 3:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone
Importance: High

I think it's a nice track. also, every one should be free to make there 
own

choice.
I've got under the sea, from the little mermaid as my ringtone, mainly
because I am an open water swimming nut, and am quite often known as the
march Merman, March in Cambridgeshire being where I live, and Merman 
because

I spend so much time in the water.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:16 AM
Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone



We shouldn't talk to  him then,

It's probably great for little kids but for adults I think it's
annoying myself,


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 1:06 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone

But, if he likes it...?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone

Yeah no problem with self made ring tones, but the baby shark, that's
out there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 10:47 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone

I think it was fine for Joshua to do that. There are enough rings on
the iPhone that I never have bothered to get one off the Net myself,
even though my son would rather me have a car for his ring than a
steam engine whistle.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone

I think the isolation of COVID has sent Joshua over the edge.  Hahahaha.

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Re: Sharing my business page

[Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Thanks Richard, I was managed, I can share my Page and can coppy the link but,  
sometimes it disappear from the app. I will try to chek it out from the 
Computer and i will see what's happnds.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-26 במרץ 2021, בשעה 18:11, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
> 
> 
> Can you go to the page with a computer?
> Then press alt+d and then control+c to copy the link and paste it into an 
> email.
> I do not use facebook, so I cannot tell you how to do this all from the 
> iPhone.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lielle 
> Ben Simon ?? ?
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 7:58 AM
> To: ViPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sharing my business page
>  
> My page name writon in Hebrew. I pressing on More button but sometimes i see 
> the button and sometimes not.
>  
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
> 
> ‫ב-26 במרץ 2021, בשעה 10:54, ‏‏Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
> ‏ כתב/ה:
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> Hi all, I have created my  business page, I can't find away to share my 
> Facebook page. Howcan I do this with voiceover?
> 
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RE: Trouble answering phone calls

[Richard Turner]

The two finger double tap should work no matter where the focus is, even if you 
are in the middle of reading an eMail.

But, you may also want to check under Settings, Phone, that the new item, 
Incoming Calls, is set to full screen.

HTH,


Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: rhs via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Trouble answering phone calls

Hi,

I have the latest IOS on my iPhone XR.  When I receive a phone call the name 
pops up like you'd expect and I can double tap to answer.  However, if I touch 
the screen in some way that moves the focus the caller and the answer button 
disappear.  The phone still rings but I can't figure out how to answer it.

Any directions would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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RE: Sharing my business page

[Richard Turner]

Can you go to the page with a computer?
Then press alt+d and then control+c to copy the link and paste it into an email.
I do not use facebook, so I cannot tell you how to do this all from the iPhone.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lielle 
Ben Simon ?? ?
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 7:58 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Re: Sharing my business page

My page name writon in Hebrew. I pressing on More button but sometimes i see 
the button and sometimes not.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי


‫ב-26 במרץ 2021, בשעה 10:54, ‏‏Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
‏mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:
Hi all, I have created my  business page, I can't find away to share my 
Facebook page. Howcan I do this with voiceover?
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Re: Sharing my business page

[Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

My page name writon in Hebrew. I pressing on More button but sometimes i see 
the button and sometimes not.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-26 במרץ 2021, בשעה 10:54, ‏‏Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
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> Hi all, I have created my  business page, I can't find away to share my 
> Facebook page. Howcan I do this with voiceover?
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Re: Sharing my business page

[Richard Turner]

What is your business name?
I'll see what I can figure out.


Richard

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On Mar 26, 2021, at 12:54 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
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 Hi all, I have created my  business page, I can't find away to share my 
Facebook page. Howcan I do this with voiceover?

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Trouble answering phone calls

[rhs via VIPhone]

Hi,

 

I have the latest IOS on my iPhone XR.  When I receive a phone call the name 
pops up like you’d expect and I can double tap to answer.  However, if I touch 
the screen in some way that moves the focus the caller and the answer button 
disappear.  The phone still rings but I can’t figure out how to answer it.

 

Any directions would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

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Re: Apple watch voices

[Dave Jones]

thank you for the confirmation. Have a great day.


> On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  That is correct. Samantha or one Siri voice.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
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> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
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> 
> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dave Jones  wrote:
>>> 
>> am I correct in assuming that we are very limited on the number of 
>> voiceover voices on the Apple Watch? It looks like we can have the standard 
>> voice or one of the Siri voice is but no others. Thanks.
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Re: Apple watch voices

[Richard Turner]

That is correct. Samantha or one Siri voice.


Richard

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On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dave Jones  wrote:

am I correct in assuming that we are very limited on the number of voiceover 
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Apple watch voices

[Dave Jones]

am I correct in assuming that we are very limited on the number of voiceover 
voices on the Apple Watch? It looks like we can have the standard voice or one 
of the Siri voice is but no others. Thanks.

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Re: Looking for a contact management system

[Richard Turner]

Definitely ABC Group
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-group-messenger/id685048714


Richard

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every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:46 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:

 Give this one a try; I’ve used it but on its free tier and it works like a 
charm! 
https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/a2z-contactos-a2z-contacts/id622492105

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 26 mar 2021, a la(s) 7:41 a.m., Michael Feir  
escribió:


You might want to give Cardhop a look. It's made by the same developer as 
Fantastical. Definitely a step above the basic contacts app included with iOS.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 8:10 AM dean martineau 
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Re: Looking for a contact management system

[Gerardo Corripio]

Give this one a try; I’ve used it but on its free tier and it works like a 
charm! https://apps.apple.com/mx/app/a2z-contactos-a2z-contacts/id622492105

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 26 mar 2021, a la(s) 7:41 a.m., Michael Feir  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> You might want to give Cardhop a look. It's made by the same developer as 
> Fantastical. Definitely a step above the basic contacts app included with iOS.
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 8:10 AM dean martineau  wrote:
>> I would love to find, for a student, a powerful and accessible contact 
>> management system for the iPhone. The goal is to be able to create contact 
>> groups. It would be ideal to be able to add a contact, perhaps  a contact 
>> from the native Contact system, to one or more contact groups. Does such a 
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Re: Looking for a contact management system

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You might want to give Cardhop a look. It's made by the same developer as
Fantastical. Definitely a step above the basic contacts app included with
iOS.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 8:10 AM dean martineau  wrote:

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Re: Looking for a contact management system

[kliph miller Sr]

Try this one
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/abc-group-messenger/id685048714 


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> On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:10 AM, dean martineau  wrote:
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> I would love to find, for a student, a powerful and accessible contact 
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> groups. It would be ideal to be able to add a contact, perhaps  a contact 
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Looking for a contact management system

[dean martineau]

I would love to find, for a student, a powerful and accessible contact 
management system for the iPhone. The goal is to be able to create contact 
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Re: babyshark ringtone anyone

[kliph miller Sr]

The 30 second limit is no longer there.  I found this out by accident.  Was 
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> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:04 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> YouTube is a great place to find all kinds of music. I love heavy
> metal and have made more than 100 heavy metal ring tones. When I find
> the song on YouTube, I copy the URL and put it into an online YouTube
> to MP3 converter. I then download the MP3 file and fire up the program
> MP3 Direct Cut.  I can make countless edits and it does not recode the
> file and diminish the sound quality.  I like that it allows for fades.
> After I have 30 seconds of audio, I upload the file to an online
> converter to put it in the M4R format. The M4R file is then downloaded
> and copied to my iPhone. Apple backs up ringtones to iCloud so I will
> never lose them.
> 
> The music is iconic, unique, and catches the attention of everyone in the 
> room.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/25/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Then, you also can do as I do, just hit good old Delete and go on with a
>> great day!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>> 
>> Yeah
>> Each to their own,
>> 
>> I have the nokia ring tone as my ipHones ring tone,
>> 
>> It's just such a classic I thought it was great,
>> 
>> It does confuse people when I answer my iPhone but it's ringing like a
>> classic nokia device.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> goshawk on horseback
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 3:55 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: babyshark ringtone anyone
>> Importance: High
>> 
>> I think it's a nice track. also, every one should be free to make there own
>> choice.
>> I've got under the sea, from the little mermaid as my ringtone, mainly
>> because I am an open water swimming nut, and am quite often known as the
>> march Merman, March in Cambridgeshire being where I live, and Merman because
>> I spend so much time in the water.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:16 AM
>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>> 
>> 
>>> We shouldn't talk to  him then,
>>> 
>>> It's probably great for little kids but for adults I think it's
>>> annoying myself,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Carolyn
>>> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 1:06 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>>> 
>>> But, if he likes it...?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 6:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: babyshark ringtone anyone
>>> 
>>> Yeah no problem with self made ring tones, but the baby shark, that's
>>> out there.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Carolyn
>>> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2021 10:47 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: babyshark 

Sharing my business page

[Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi all, I have created my  business page, I can't find away to share my 
Facebook page. Howcan I do this with voiceover?

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

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Re: voiceover speech

[Janet Bell]

thank you very much for your assistance.  Janet

On 26/03/2021 07:18, Bill Gallik wrote:

Of course, start by opening settings.

Then, if you have a 14 that whatever version of iOS look for 
accessibility; otherwise open general and find accessibility therein.
Locate the voiceover button and tap it, I know this may seem 
counterintuitive but it will not turn voiceover off, rather it will 
open the voiceover dialogue.
Find and tap the speech button, that will open another dialogue where 
you can find the settings you’re looking for.




- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.5.1) via Google Mail
On Mar 26, 2021, at 1:18 AM, Janet Bell > wrote:


please can someone remind me where to go to check voiceover speech.  
I want to check which voice is speaking.  Janet


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Re: voiceover speech

[Bill Gallik]

Of course, start by opening settings.

Then, if you have a 14 that whatever version of iOS look for accessibility; 
otherwise open general and find accessibility therein.
Locate the voiceover button and tap it, I know this may seem counterintuitive 
but it will not turn voiceover off, rather it will open the voiceover dialogue.
Find and tap the speech button, that will open another dialogue where you can 
find the settings you’re looking for.



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.5.1) via Google Mail
On Mar 26, 2021, at 1:18 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> please can someone remind me where to go to check voiceover speech.  I want 
> to check which voice is speaking.  Janet
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voiceover speech

[Janet Bell]

please can someone remind me where to go to check voiceover speech.  I 
want to check which voice is speaking.  Janet


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