RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The 3.5mm to Lightning issue could be resolved with a $10 or less adapter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

All,
My original purpose in not buying the 'earbuds from Apple was partly price, but 
it was also their construction. Granted, these aren't as advanced as other 
models out there, not to mention the wireless choices, but I have had quite a 
few gradually or suddenly lose sound in one ear, exhibit a crackling sound 
randomly in 1 ear, or even 1 earbud set physically came apart while I was 
listening to an American football game. Like someone else has said, whenever I 
get a new device I typically buy 1 or 2 extra earbuds, if only to stockpile. My 
sighted wife has had the same issue, though I'm not sure hers has been as 
frequent as mine. Finally, 1 of the recommendations given was for a 3.5mm jack, 
but I would need a Lightning jack or chord for the earbuds. 

Kind regards, 



Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 11

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need,
> 
> I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired, But hey sony do the job.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> Well Simon, you get what you pay for.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased 
>> over the years,
>> 
>> And just gone through those as I need them.
>> 
>> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with 
>> them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting 
>> in a box, But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
>> 
>> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
>> they cost me $9 each NZ.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
>> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
>> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
>> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
>> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
>> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
>> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a 
>> time and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as 
>> well, just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the 
>> ear pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one 
>> of the Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
>> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Wayne, try this alternative:
>> 
>> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
 On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the 
>>> issue you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, 
>>> and it was replaced without hassle.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Wayne,
 
 I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
 official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
 discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing
 3 pairs.
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
 To: viphone 
 Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
 
 Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
 wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
 over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; 
 and I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
 alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
 current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have 
 the sam

Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Wayne Merritt]

All, 
My original purpose in not buying the 'earbuds from Apple was partly price, but 
it was also their construction. Granted, these aren't as advanced as other 
models out there, not to mention the wireless choices, but I have had quite a 
few gradually or suddenly lose sound in one ear, exhibit a crackling sound 
randomly in 1 ear, or even 1 earbud set physically came apart while I was 
listening to an American football game. Like someone else has said, whenever I 
get a new device I typically buy 1 or 2 extra earbuds, if only to stockpile. My 
sighted wife has had the same issue, though I'm not sure hers has been as 
frequent as mine. Finally, 1 of the recommendations given was for a 3.5mm jack, 
but I would need a Lightning jack or chord for the earbuds. 

Kind regards, 



Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 11

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need,
> 
> I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired,
> But hey sony do the job.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> Well Simon, you get what you pay for.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased 
>> over the years,
>> 
>> And just gone through those as I need them.
>> 
>> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with 
>> them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting 
>> in a box, But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
>> 
>> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
>> they cost me $9 each NZ.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
>> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
>> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
>> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
>> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
>> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
>> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a 
>> time and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as 
>> well, just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the 
>> ear pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one 
>> of the Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>> 
>> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
>> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
>> issue.
>> 
>> Wayne, try this alternative:
>> 
>> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
 On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue 
>>> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it 
>>> was replaced without hassle.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Wayne,
 
 I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
 official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
 discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 
 3 pairs.
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
 To: viphone 
 Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
 
 Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
 wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
 over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and 
 I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
 alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
 current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have 
 the same abilities to adjust volume and handle media/phone calls 
 with the in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
 
 Kindly,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 --
 Follow me on Twitter: @wcmerritt
 Connect with me on GoodReads:
 www.goodreads.com/waynesbooks
 
 

Re: orbit reader 20

[Richard Turner]

You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure what 
happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.


Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished


On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


A subject would have been helpful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: orbit reader 20

I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems to be having 
problems with special characters such as (~ !)  in the password.
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RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yah that's true but I also get the sound that I need,

I could pay $35 for the apple earpods wired,
But hey sony do the job.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 12:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

Well Simon, you get what you pay for.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased 
> over the years,
> 
> And just gone through those as I need them.
> 
> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with 
> them now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting in 
> a box, But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
> 
> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
> they cost me $9 each NZ.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a time 
> and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as well, 
> just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the ear 
> pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one of the 
> Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
> issue.
> 
> Wayne, try this alternative:
> 
> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
>> On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue 
>> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it 
>> was replaced without hassle.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>> 
>>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
>>> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
>>> discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 
>>> 3 pairs.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
>>> To: viphone 
>>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>> 
>>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
>>> wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
>>> over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and 
>>> I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
>>> alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
>>> current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have 
>>> the same abilities to adjust volume and handle media/phone calls 
>>> with the in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
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RE: orbit reader 20

[Larry Lumpkin]

A subject would have been helpful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: orbit reader 20

 

I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems to be having 
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RE: Installing MacOs on windows laptop

[Simon A Fogarty]

Theoretically yes,

Practically I don’t believe it can be done.

I do know that it was done a number of years back by someone on a I believe an 
Acer triple E notebook, but there was a lot of work done to make it work for 
the people involved.

However that’s going back the best part of 10 years.
And now I think you’d be pushing it.


However no reason why you couldn’t try it,

But good luck,

Or check out the likes of VM Work station or virtual box, but again pushing 
brown stuff up hill with toothpick I think!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Afik 
Souffir
Sent: Friday, 25 June 2021 6:49 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Installing MacOs on windows laptop

Hi,
Can i install mac os on a windows laptop?
If so, how?
Afik
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Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Anthony Vece]

Well Simon, you get what you pay for.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased over the 
> years,
> 
> And just gone through those as I need them.
> 
> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with them 
> now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting in a 
> box,
> But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
> 
> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
> they cost me $9 each NZ.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a time 
> and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as well, 
> just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the ear 
> pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one of the 
> Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
> issue.
> 
> Wayne, try this alternative:
> 
> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
>> On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue 
>> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it 
>> was replaced without hassle.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>> 
>>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
>>> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
>>> discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 3 
>>> pairs.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
>>> To: viphone 
>>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>> 
>>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
>>> wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
>>> over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and 
>>> I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
>>> alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
>>> current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have the 
>>> same abilities to adjust volume and handle media/phone calls with the 
>>> in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Follow me on Twitter: @wcmerritt
>>> Connect with me on GoodReads:
>>> www.goodreads.com/waynesbooks
>>> 
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RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased over the 
years,

And just gone through those as I need them.

I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with them now 
is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting in a box,
But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.

So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
they cost me $9 each NZ.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative which 
its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an alternative. 
Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time I still think 
they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound qualiy, 
functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If you can 
find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn then that 
would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a time and use 
them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as well, just 
yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the ear pieces with 
my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one of the Apple Airpods 
Pro I would have been a lot more upset!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
issue.

Wayne, try this alternative:

https://amzn.to/3w65LPX

Joe


On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue 
> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it 
> was replaced without hassle.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
>> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
>> discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 3 
>> pairs.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>
>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
>> wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
>> over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and 
>> I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
>> alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
>> current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have the 
>> same abilities to adjust volume and handle media/phone calls with the 
>> in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
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RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Carolyn]

I agree about the Apple buds - bought a couple from a lady on one of the sell 
lists. Of course, one came with my phone. Then, I have the ones from my SE in 
my computer speakers. When I play music on Google, they make it sound really 
good. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative which 
its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an alternative. 
Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time I still think 
they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound qualiy, 
functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If you can 
find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn then that 
would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a time and use 
them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as well, just 
yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the ear pieces with 
my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one of the Apple Airpods 
Pro I would have been a lot more upset!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
issue.

Wayne, try this alternative:

https://amzn.to/3w65LPX

Joe


On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue 
> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it 
> was replaced without hassle.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
>> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
>> discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 3 
>> pairs.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>
>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
>> wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
>> over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and 
>> I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
>> alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
>> current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have the 
>> same abilities to adjust volume and handle media/phone calls with the 
>> in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> --
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>> Connect with me on GoodReads:
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RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative which 
its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an alternative. 
Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time I still think 
they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound qualiy, 
functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If you can 
find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn then that 
would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a time and use 
them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as well, just 
yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the ear pieces with 
my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one of the Apple Airpods 
Pro I would have been a lot more upset!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
issue.

Wayne, try this alternative:

https://amzn.to/3w65LPX

Joe


On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue 
> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it 
> was replaced without hassle.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
>> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
>> discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 3 
>> pairs.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>
>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
>> wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
>> over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and 
>> I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
>> alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
>> current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have the 
>> same abilities to adjust volume and handle media/phone calls with the 
>> in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> --
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Upcoming SharePlay features in iOS 15 and more

[Richard Turner]

Here is a little snip from a larger article on the web:
SharePlay even extends to Apple TV, so users can watch shows or movies on a big 
screen while connecting over FaceTime, and SharePlay will keep everyone's 
playback in sync. Disney+, ESPN+, HBO Max, Hulu, MasterClass, Paramount+, Pluto 
TV, TikTok, Twitch, and many others are integrating SharePlay into their apps - 
creating entirely new ways to connect.

The full article is here.
Apple Seeds Second iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 Betas to Developers for Testing 
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RE: Installing MacOs on windows laptop

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not to my knowledge, you can install Windows on a Mac computer, but I don't 
think it works the other way

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Afik 
Souffir
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:49 PM
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Hi,
Can i install mac os on a windows laptop?
If so, how?
Afik
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Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Joe Orozco]

I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the
Apple EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t
solving his issue.

Wayne, try this alternative:

https://amzn.to/3w65LPX

Joe


On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue
> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it
> was replaced without hassle.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have
>> official
>> Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight discount on
>> purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 3 pairs.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Wayne
>> Merritt
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>
>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the wired
>> Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs over the
>> last
>> year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and I am tired of
>> paying
>> Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an alternative to these earbuds? I
>> know
>> that wireless earbuds are the current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I
>> would also like to have the same abilities to adjust volume and handle
>> media/phone calls with the in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
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Re: Randomly moving settings

[Barbara Stahl]

My experience was just really strange. I got my iphone 8 back in 2019 and 
haven't swopped out any sim cards or otherwise changed the physical phone. I 
hadn't used the hotspot feature for a while and then I used it on Wednesday and 
at that time the hotspot setting was its own setting in settings. Then when I 
went to use it on Thursday, it had moved to to the sellular setting. Then after 
I had turned it off again, it reverted to being its own setting.  Maybe it 
forgot that it was supposed to disappear with lack of use until I used it again 
Lol.  

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> This also happens to me when I move my SIM card from one of my iPhones to 
> the Android phone to either backup or update my iPhones and then move it back.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Barbara Stahl  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:30 am
> Subject: Re: Randomly moving settings
> 
>> 
>> 
>> That's really weird because I just used it yesterday and then this morning 
>> it disappeared on me really strange
>> 
 On Jun 24, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> "This has always behaved this way, if you haven't used it in a while r 
>>> maybe never it goes away and once you use it, it comes back as a main 
>>> Settings item.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Barbara Stahl
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:42 AM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: Randomly moving settings
>>> 
>>> So Today I opened settings in order to use personal hot spot with my 
>>> laptop, and it had randumly moved to inside the sellular settings section. 
>>> Previously it was its own category in settings. It took me a couple of 
>>> minutes to find it.  Then after I used it I opened settings just to check 
>>> again and it had moved back to its own separate setting category. Does 
>>> anyone know what would cause this to happen? I have an iphone 8 running ios 
>>> 14.6.  
>>> 
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RE: Routing Call to Bluetooth Speaker While in Progress?

[Debby]

Hi Dani,

You may already know this, but you can do a two-finger double tap on the screen 
to hang up a call. I usually do it toward the middle of the screen. 95% of the 
time it works the first time. If not I just try again. That way I don't have to 
look around for the end call button.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of dani 
pagador
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Routing Call to Bluetooth Speaker While in Progress?

Thanks for that reassurance. I've thought about switching back to a flip phone 
because of the desire to hang up on scam calls and needing to use VO to find 
the "end call" button, but being worried that the person on the other end would 
hear VO and know then that I can't see.
Glad to know I can put that worry to rest. Haven't needed to hang up on anyone, 
but am glad to know I can do it without giving anything away about myself.

On 6/22/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> No even with Voiceover on speaker and the phone on speaker it somehow 
> seems that it is not picked up by the call.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> dani pagador
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 3:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Routing Call to Bluetooth Speaker While in Progress?
>
> Thanks, Chela and Sieghard. I'll try it as a test run with my husband 
> to see how it goes and where the glitches are in my learning curve.
> I'm sure it'll work out.
>
> Just out of curiosity, when you're looking through stuff on the screen 
> to make a choice for something, does the person on the other end of 
> the call hear VO chatter?
>
> More Later,
> Dani
>
>
>
> On 6/22/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> That rotor option is not available during a call. However, if you 
>> check your screen there is a button called "Audio". If you are not 
>> using a headset that is labelled "Speaker" and lets you switch 
>> between having the audio come from the phone's internal speaker or 
>> external speaker. Of course you can usually do this by simply taking 
>> the phone away from your head unless you disable this, but when a 
>> Bluetoot headset is connected this button is called Audio.
>> It is the third from the top after Mute and Keypad and before Add 
>> Call. You may have to Hide the keypad to see these buttons if after 
>> the call has started it is all you see on the screen, the Hide button 
>> is at the very bottom.
>> Once you tap this Audio button you should have 3 choices: iPhone, 
>> Speaker and Bluetooth Device Name, just now I tried this with my 
>> Logitech H800 headset and it said "H800".
>> If I tap iPhone the call goes to the phone's internal speaker, 
>> Speaker puts it on the external speaker and H800 puts it where one 
>> would expect, on my Bluetooth headset.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of CHELA Robles
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Routing Call to Bluetooth Speaker While in Progress?
>>
>> On the iPhone there’s usually a rotor option that will be labeled 
>> audio destination and then you can flick down and choose from there I 
>> believe.
>> Someone can correct me on this one though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 2:08 PM, dani pagador  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Guys.
>>> How do I make a call go through my Bluetooth speaker if it's in 
>>> progress? I will be using my phone for work and may need to put 
>>> calls on speaker midstream instead of using a headset.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dani
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