Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have
any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.

So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year
(smile).

Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the
idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name
(smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
(big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). 

Mark


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HomePod problem

[Mary Otten]

I have a stereo pair of HomePods which was working just fine yesterday. This 
evening, I went to watch my Apple TV through the HomePods, and they are not 
responding at all. Siri doesn’t respond. Touching the top of the homePod eels 
no sound, and in the home app, I am informed on helpfully that this device is 
not responding. No kidding. This device requires attention. But they don’t give 
me any hint as to what kind of attention or how I might find out. I unplug them 
and re-plugged them, and I got the sound that indicates that they came back on. 
But they do not work at all, and I can’t find anything useful from Apple 
support site. Does anybody have any idea what kind of attention the device 
might require aside from a sledgehammer?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[lenron brown]

If I could I would probably go for that Sierra blue. There is just no
way I am upgrading my watch and phone right now though. Right now I
have the normal blue watch and blue phone.

On 9/15/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Ok, that's a pastel blue from memory.
>
> Cheers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
> Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 11:20 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> What is  the sierra blue?
>>
>> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
>> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>> with it.” – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>>
> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

 I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
 WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
 which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
 the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
 the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall
 to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and
 then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully
 next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose
 sensor.
 My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get
 her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new
 bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my
 old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new
 Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out
 some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I
 will be getting!

 Kindly,
 Wayne Merritt

 On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume
> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th
> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the
> first day they will be in people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is
> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
> with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS
> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time
> mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the
> exact date.
> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this
> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to
> potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one
> device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final
> verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS
> 15 before I upgrade.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroup

RE: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hell I cant' remember correctlyt

It's either a two finger triple tap on the touch pad or a three finger double 
tap  on the touch pad.

Sorry I'm away from my tv so can't confirm that at the moment.

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 11:59 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

Explore mode? How do I access that feature? Sounds like it provides similar 
capabilities to the review mode on a Fire TV device.


I'm really wanting something that will repeat information spoken by 
VoiceOver. Sometimes Siri pronounces words oddly, and I need to hear it 
again to make out what she said.


So if know review mode, maybe a way to repeat previously spoken information?


On 9/15/2021 1:45 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Not a review mode but they have a
> Navigation mode and explore mode
>
> One allows you to just work around and figure out things
> And the other lets you select and enable.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kenneth Washington
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 5:01 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?
>
> Hello,
>
>
> Does anyone know if the Apple TV 4K (2nd generation) have a review mode for 
> VoiceOver. Something that allows a user to explore the content displayed in a 
> grid layout of an Apple TV screen item by item.
>
>
> If so, how do I activate it?
>
>
> My Fire TV Cube has such an accessibility feature for Voice Guide. You hold 
> the menu button down on the remote control for 3 seconds to enable it.
>
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok, that's a pastel blue from memory.

Cheers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 11:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.

Donna

> 
> What is  the sierra blue?
> 
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> How about Sierra Blue?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.” – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. 
> I would be open to purple though.
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
 On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
 first day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
 safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it.”
 – Jane Wagner
 
 My Web site: 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
 
 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS
 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
 mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
 exact date.
 I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
 time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
 potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
 device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
 verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS
 15 before I upgrade.
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
 
 Good ch

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Donna Casteen]

Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.

Donna

> 
> What is  the sierra blue?
> 
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> How about Sierra Blue?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. 
> I would be open to purple though.
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
 On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>>> getting!
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
 day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
 to count on the 24th at the latest.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it.”
 – Jane Wagner
 
 My Web site: 
 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
 .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
 
 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid 
 next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact 
 date.
 I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
 time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
 potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
 device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
 verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
 15 before I upgrade.
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
 
 Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, 
 just
 1
 generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year 
 increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other 
 than those who think they always have to have the latest.
 
>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS
>>> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid 
>>> next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact 
>>> date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
>>> time, last year as well as 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
>>> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid 
>>> next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact 
>>> date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
>>> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
>>> potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
>>> device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
>>> verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
>>> 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, 
>>> just
>>> 1
>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year 
>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other 
>>> than those who think they always have to have the latest.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I spoke to apple about the s7 watch yesterday,

I asked what the star light colour was and she said that it's a cream type 
colour 
A combination between gold and silver.

Which is what Richard said yesterday.

Again a colour to attract the Asian / Chinese market who like the bling colours.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com  
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, w

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’m trying to remember but my IPHone 5S, and SE 1st Generation were Space Gray. 
This SE 2nd Generation, I wanted it Space Gray too, but they only had it in 
Product Red, but have a black case for it.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 15 sep 2021, a la(s) 5:42 p.m., Simon A Fogarty  
> escribió:
> 
> I always get space grey or black,
> 
> Then put a wallet case around it
> 
> To keep cards and things in there as well as great protection.
> 
> And yeah I guess I pretty much wear black or dark colours all the time. Or 
> most of the time.
> 
> But that's more it's just easy to accessorise if I knew what to accessorise 
> with.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:46 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
> see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
> those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
> coordinated with your clothing as well?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
> 12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from 
> the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a 
> pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It 
> would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about 
> regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
 On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 
 I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
 WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
 which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
 the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
 the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
 to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
 then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
 next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
 My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
 her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
 bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
 old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
 Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
 some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
 will be getting!
 
 Kindly,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
> first day they will be in people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sd

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

I always get space grey or black,

Then put a wallet case around it

To keep cards and things in there as well as great protection.

And yeah I guess I pretty much wear black or dark colours all the time. Or most 
of the time.

But that's more it's just easy to accessorise if I knew what to accessorise 
with.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
coordinated with your clothing as well?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
 first day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
 safe to count on the 24th at the latest.




 Richard
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it.”
 – Jane Wagner

 My Web site:
 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
 w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
 TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
 j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS
 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
 mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
 exact dat

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

The SE comes in white red and black,

One of the 13 models has  a silver I believe 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 5:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I have a turquoise case for my black 11. Back when I had a rose gold phone, I 
had a transparent case. I do like colored phones - would like to have white, 
gold, or silver next go, if it is available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
 first day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
 safe to count on the 24th at the latest.




 Richard
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it.”
 – Jane Wagner

 My Web site:
 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
 w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
 TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
 j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS
 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
 mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
 exact date.
 I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
 time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
 potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
 device and I need it to function and I

RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'll be curious to see your feedback Alan. I wasn't a fan of slide to type when 
I gave it a brief look because it forced me to use just one finger. I may give 
it another look to see if it's advantages outweigh that negative.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Hi LeDon,

I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 14, 
I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no longer 
have at some point.

I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
with my results.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with 
Outlook
 for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of LeDon 
Becker mailto:vanike...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?

Get Outlook for 
iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Alan 
Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?


Hi List,



I'm looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType app. 
Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its accessibility and 
what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I don't use a Bluetooth 
keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my iPhone especially when I'm 
away from home and I'm starting to research other alternatives for when 
FlickType is no longer on my device.



Thanks in advance for your help.



Alan Lemly
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Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi LeDon,

I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 14, 
I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no longer 
have at some point.

I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
with my results.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of LeDon 
Becker 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?


Hi List,



I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType app. 
Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its accessibility and 
what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I don’t use a Bluetooth 
keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my iPhone especially when I’m 
away from home and I’m starting to research other alternatives for when 
FlickType is no longer on my device.



Thanks in advance for your help.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[LeDon Becker]

Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?


Hi List,



I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType app. 
Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its accessibility and 
what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I don’t use a Bluetooth 
keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my iPhone especially when I’m 
away from home and I’m starting to research other alternatives for when 
FlickType is no longer on my device.



Thanks in advance for your help.



Alan Lemly

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Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'm looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType
app. Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its
accessibility and what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I
don't use a Bluetooth keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my
iPhone especially when I'm away from home and I'm starting to research other
alternatives for when FlickType is no longer on my device.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I have a turquoise case for my black 11. Back when I had a rose gold phone, I 
had a transparent case. I do like colored phones - would like to have white, 
gold, or silver next go, if it is available. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
 first day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
 safe to count on the 24th at the latest.




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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
 mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
 exact date.
 I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
 time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
 potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
 device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
 verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
 15 before I upgrade.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Se

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sabrina Markel]

I’m totally happy with my IPhone 7 and don’t plan to upgrade anytime soon.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

By now I could have an SE for the Apple Care money I have saved. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Typically much cheaper to get insurance through your home policy, I pay around 
$30 or $40 Canadian a year to have my iPhone 11 added as a separate item 
without deductible.
This covers damage,, loss or theft and especially a phone like the iPhone 8 
which you could buy used for $200 or less in my opinion is hardly worth paying 
$120 a year, but everybody has to do what they think is best.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 14, 2021 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Thanks for the explanation.  That is new to me.
I will look into that for future reference.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Richard.  The extended apple care is through apple not my carier which is 
Verizon.  What happened was when my apple care expired on June 7 of this year.  
I had paid $200 for the past 2 years.  After it expired, I went to settings 
under my name and under apple care, a message came up.  It said that I had 30 
days from when my apple care expired to pay for apple care if I wanted.  There 
were different options, and I chose the $10 per month option.  I can cancel at 
any time, however, I need to be aware, that if I do cancel that is it, and I 
wouldn't have apple care any more.  I'll pay the $10 per now, but if I get a 
new iPhone, I could either continue to pay for the apple care on my olde 
iPhone, or stop.

On 9/14/21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> I am sorry if I imply that people were afraid,J just in case Those 
> that may be, was trying to say not to be. Yes, I told him that 
> everyone has a right to their own opinions and I’m not trying to persuade one 
> way or the other.
> Just expressing mine. Sorry if there was confusion about that
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I'm not afraid of anything. I am expressing a preference.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Diane Giannetti
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
>> of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>>
>> Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it.
>> Those who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of 
>> switching over and not have the home button. It’s just a matter of 
>> sliding up or down to get what you need to get to and it has the 
>> haptics so you will know where you’re at. It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.
>>
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Everyone,
>>>
>>> I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, but 
>>> I like the home button and the phone's sound.
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>
 On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

 Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
 like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a 
 zipper pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything 
 larger.  If I was to get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

 Andy

 - Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
 of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.


 My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
 care, so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I 
 have had my iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not 
 getting an iPhone 11 pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the 
 chance.  I will wait for the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance 
 to keep saving up money so I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 
 outright with no contract to worry about.  I'd have plenty of 

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

My settings keep telling me that the option for Apple Care expires in three 
days - has said that since a month after I got this phone, which was January of 
2020. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Thanks for the explanation.  That is new to me.
I will look into that for future reference.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Richard.  The extended apple care is through apple not my carier which is 
Verizon.  What happened was when my apple care expired on June 7 of this year.  
I had paid $200 for the past 2 years.  After it expired, I went to settings 
under my name and under apple care, a message came up.  It said that I had 30 
days from when my apple care expired to pay for apple care if I wanted.  There 
were different options, and I chose the $10 per month option.  I can cancel at 
any time, however, I need to be aware, that if I do cancel that is it, and I 
wouldn't have apple care any more.  I'll pay the $10 per now, but if I get a 
new iPhone, I could either continue to pay for the apple care on my olde 
iPhone, or stop.

On 9/14/21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> I am sorry if I imply that people were afraid,J just in case Those 
> that may be, was trying to say not to be. Yes, I told him that 
> everyone has a right to their own opinions and I’m not trying to persuade one 
> way or the other.
> Just expressing mine. Sorry if there was confusion about that
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I'm not afraid of anything. I am expressing a preference.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Diane Giannetti
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
>> of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>>
>> Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it.
>> Those who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of 
>> switching over and not have the home button. It’s just a matter of 
>> sliding up or down to get what you need to get to and it has the 
>> haptics so you will know where you’re at. It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.
>>
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Everyone,
>>>
>>> I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, but 
>>> I like the home button and the phone's sound.
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>
 On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

 Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
 like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a 
 zipper pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything 
 larger.  If I was to get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

 Andy

 - Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson"
 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those 
 of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.


 My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
 care, so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I 
 have had my iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not 
 getting an iPhone 11 pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the 
 chance.  I will wait for the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance 
 to keep saving up money so I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 
 outright with no contract to worry about.  I'd have plenty of space 
 on my 256 gig iPhone 8, if I hadn't filled it up with audio books.
 If only NLS would let you sync your bard books from one phone to another 
 via iCloud.

 On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Yeah Carolyn,
>
> I'm kind of in the same mindset,
>
> But it doesn't matter what you do today,
>
> We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,
>
> But hey,
> Face and touch id under screen would be nice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Carolyn
>>

RE: now that the apple event is finished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I see it exactly as you do, Christopher. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

I definitely agree that people should go with what they want and what works for 
them. My own experience is that my personal iPhone is a iPhone 11 and the 
iPhone my employer gave me is an iPhone 7. As I move back and forth between the 
two, I definitely now prefer a phone without the home button. I prefer the 
extra real estate, which I think helps with braille input. When I’m grabbing my 
iPhone 7, I’m constantly sliding up from the bottom or top and getting 
frustrated that I’m not getting to my home page, app switcher , … I suppose you 
could have a home button on the back or the side of the phone, which could give 
you the best of both worlds. Even though I’m OK with giving up the home button, 
I do miss touch ID. I’m OK with face ID, but there are just times I want to 
unlock my phone without having to stick it in my face.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it. Those 
who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of switching over and 
not have the home button. It’s just a matter of sliding up or down to get what 
you need to get to and it has the haptics so you will know where you’re at. 
It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

Hi, Everyone,

 

I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, but I 
like the home button and the phone's sound.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote:

Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a zipper 
pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything larger.  If I was to 
get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.


My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have 
had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an 
iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I will 
wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving up 
money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no 
contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig iPhone 8, 
if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let 
you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:



Yeah Carolyn,

 

I'm kind of in the same mindset,

 

But it doesn't matter what you do today,

 

We all know that there will be something better out 
tomorrow,

 

But hey,

Face and touch id under screen would be nice.

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of

Carolyn

Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 

Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished 

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I hold my phone in my left hand and do gestures with the right, but am 
fortunate enough not to have any problems with my hands. However, I do not 
think I could hold my phone in the same hand that I was using for gestures. I 
don't use Siri all that much. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Diane, I will say, I've tried those wipes, and they're almost impossible for a 
person to do with one hand. Cuz there are some cases where I have to hold the 
phone, in the same hand that I'm doing the gesture with. I don't have that much 
strength in my right hand. So that's why I prefer the phones with the home 
button. And believe me me, I've tried it on my mom's 11.


On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 7:22 PM Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct 
it. Those who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of switching 
over and not have the home button. It’s just a matter of sliding up or down to 
get what you need to get to and it has the haptics so you will know where 
you’re at. It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.


Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:



Hi, Everyone,

I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger 
phone, but I like the home button and the phone's sound.

Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote:



Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it 
to do.  I like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a 
zipper pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything larger.  If I 
was to get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what 
about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
phone 8.


My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month 
for apple care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing. 
 I have had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not 
getting an iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I 
will wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving 
up money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no 
contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig 
iPhone 8, if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS 
would let you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:


Yeah Carolyn,





I'm kind of in the same mindset,





But it doesn't matter what you do today,





We all know that there will be something better 
out tomorrow,





But hey,


Face and touch id under screen would be nice.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@go

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
coordinated with your clothing as well?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
 first day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
 safe to count on the 24th at the latest.




 Richard
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
 with it.”
 – Jane Wagner

 My Web site:
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
 mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
 exact date.
 I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
 time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
 potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
 device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
 verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
 15 before I upgrade.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weit

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

Actually, Diane, I like it way better than a Home Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Diane Giannetti
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Let’s try this again. I sent it out before I got a chance to correct it. Those 
who use the home button really do not need to be afraid of switching over and 
not have the home button. It’s just a matter of sliding up or down to get what 
you need to get to and it has the haptics so you will know where you’re at. 
It’s not bad at all. It isn’t.


Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Esther Levegnale 
 wrote:




Hi, Everyone,

I still am using my 7+ and love it.  I know it's a larger phone, but I 
like the home button and the phone's sound.

Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 14, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Andy Baracco  
wrote:



Muy iPhone 8 works just fine and does what i need it to do.  I 
like the size, and I like the home button. It fits perfectly into a zipper 
pouch with my Aftershokz headset. i wouldn't want anything larger.  If I was to 
get another phone, it would be the SE2020.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.


My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple 
care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have 
had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an 
iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I will 
wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving up 
money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no 
contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig iPhone 8, 
if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let 
you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Yeah Carolyn,





I'm kind of in the same mindset,





But it doesn't matter what you do today,





We all know that there will be something better out 
tomorrow,





But hey,


Face and touch id under screen would be nice.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of


Carolyn


Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what 
about those of us


who still are running the older phones? I am running 
the i phone 8.





I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 
14 could offer the


choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more 
patient. Too, by then, I


will be moved, and it will be easier for my 
daughter-in-love to take me to


phone stores, where I might change back to Verizon.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf


Of Simon A Fogarty

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

Right, Richard about Apple Care. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Josh, is that $10 per month through your carrier? 
Apple Care is only a one year extension on the waranty on a new phone.
Some carriers offer a protection plan that goes longer and costs a lot more 
when you add it up over time.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 
  






website:  www.turner42.com



On Sep 14, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  
wrote:



My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple care,
so when I need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have had my
iPhone 8 for just over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an iPhone 11
pro with 512 gigs of storage when I had the chance.  I will wait for
the iPhone 14.  It will give me a chance to keep saving up money so
I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 outright with no contract to
worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 gig iPhone 8, if I
hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let you sync
your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Yeah Carolyn,





I'm kind of in the same mindset,





But it doesn't matter what you do today,





We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,





But hey,


Face and touch id under screen would be nice.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of


Carolyn


Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us


who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
phone 8.





I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could 
offer the


choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more patient. 
Too, by then, I


will be moved, and it will be easier for my daughter-in-love to 
take me to


phone stores, where I might change back to Verizon.





-Original Message-


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf


Of Simon A Fogarty


Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about 
those of us


who still are running the older phones? I am running the i 
phone 8.





Sieghard











You are such a retail man,





Sell sell sell,











But I have to admit,











I would like a new phone,





I don’t need a new phone,





As I’ve got an 11 pro max,











But I love spending money!











If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to 
see what would


be 

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I never got Apple Care. Think of the money I've saved over the years! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

My  iPhone 8 is doing just fine.  I pay $10 per month for apple care, so when I 
need a new battery, it won't cost me a thing.  I have had my iPhone 8 for just 
over 2 years.  I so regret not getting an iPhone 11 pro with 512 gigs of 
storage when I had the chance.  I will wait for the iPhone 14.  It will give me 
a chance to keep saving up money so I'll be able to purchase the iPhone 14 
outright with no contract to worry about.  I'd have plenty of space on my 256 
gig iPhone 8, if I hadn't filled it up with audio books.  If only NLS would let 
you sync your bard books from one phone to another via iCloud.

On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Yeah Carolyn,
>
> I'm kind of in the same mindset,
>
> But it doesn't matter what you do today,
>
> We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,
>
> But hey,
> Face and touch id under screen would be nice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
> I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could offer 
> the choice of touch or facial ID makes me a little more patient. Too, 
> by then, I will be moved, and it will be easier for my 
> daughter-in-love to take me to phone stores, where I might change back to 
> Verizon.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> You are such a retail man,
>
> Sell sell sell,
>
>
>
> But I have to admit,
>
>
>
> I would like a new phone,
>
> I don’t need a new phone,
>
> As I’ve got an 11 pro max,
>
>
>
> But I love spending money!
>
>
>
> If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to see what 
> would be useful here in NZ,
>
>
>
> But my camping days seem to be over and we don’t get the cold temps 
> you guys get
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:51 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
>
>
> I totally think I t's fine for people to hold on to older phones, but 
> at the same time I am not a big advocate for spending money on phones 
> like the iPhone 6 or even the 7 or 8. Instead of spending $79 for a 
> new battery you could have probably sold it for $79 and used the $160 
> towards a newer phone which supports the latest version of iOS. Just my 
> opinion.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Michael Irons
> Sent: September 14, 2021 2:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of 
> us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.
>
>
>
> I just got a new battery for my iPhone six. I ended up paying $79 for 
> the new battery.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
>   I would check the issue of 3G going away.
>
>   Does your phone support 4G?
>
>   If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.
>
>   
>
>   If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 3G 
> support will stop.
>
>   
>
>   Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or 
> because of the battery life, etc.
>
>   It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   Richard
>
>   “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.” – Jane Wagner
>
>   
>
>   My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Mich Verrier
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:13 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>   Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what abou

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com  
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > escribió:

 

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from 
past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new 
phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th

RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Carolyn]

I vote for that, as long as I don't have a Home Button again. I'd rather not go 
back to that, but if I had to, I guess I could get used to it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Yeah Carolyn,

I'm kind of in the same mindset,

But it doesn't matter what you do today,

We all know that there will be something better out tomorrow,

But hey,
Face and touch id under screen would be nice.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

I kind of want to replace my 11, but hearing that the 14 could offer the choice 
of touch or facial ID makes me a little more patient. Too, by then, I will be 
moved, and it will be easier for my daughter-in-love to take me to phone 
stores, where I might change back to Verizon. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

Sieghard

 

You are such a retail man,

Sell sell sell,

 

But I have to admit,

 

I would like a new phone,

I don’t need a new phone,

As I’ve got an 11 pro max,

 

But I love spending money!

 

If I had the need I’d love to check out your stores stock to see what would be 
useful here in NZ,

 

But my camping days seem to be over and we don’t get the cold temps you guys get

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I totally think I t's fine for people to hold on to older phones, but at the 
same time I am not a big advocate for spending money on phones like the iPhone 
6 or even the 7 or 8. Instead of spending $79 for a new battery you could have 
probably sold it for $79 and used the $160 towards a newer phone which supports 
the latest version of iOS. Just my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who 
still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

I just got a new battery for my iPhone six. I ended up paying $79 for the new 
battery.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I would check the issue of 3G going away.

Does your phone support 4G?

If so, you probably are fine sitting tight with what you have.

 

If it only supports 3G, then check with your carrier as to when 3G 
support will stop.

 

Otherwise, only upgrade when there are new features you want, or 
because of the battery life, etc.

It is around $50 US to get a new battery in most iPhones…

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us 
who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

 

Hi all. I just am wondering I am running the I phone 8 and now that the 
apple event is over what about those of us who are running older phones like 
that? I have been thinking of upgrading for a while but am not shure witch 
phone I should upgrade to? Since beaing that I am blind I don’t really cair 
that much about the camra and stuff except when it comes to doing things like 
ocr and stuff I just was wondering the groups thoughts? My phone is still 
running good and vo is still working as it should I just was wondering about 
the groups thoughts. Btw I am in Ontario Canada if that helps so some of the 
things like the us carriers wouldn’t rea

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue
from the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13
colors had a pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in
the iPhone 12. It would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I
want to learn more about regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between
blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
>>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
>>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
>>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
>>> getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
 They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume
 from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th
 since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first
 day they will be in people’s hands.
 I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe
 to count on the 24th at the latest.




 Richard
 “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
 it.”
 – Jane Wagner

 My Web site:
 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
 will
 be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
 but
 thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
 I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this
 time,
 last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
 with
 public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
 function
 and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what
 the
 main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
 Of
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason,
 just
 1
 generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
 increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
 those who think they always have to have the latest.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

[The Evil Chocolate Cookie]

No problem. Any time

My web site, http://theevilchocolatecookie.great-site.net

> On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Kenneth Washington  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/2021 9:58 AM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie wrote:
>> Triple tap with two fingers on the remote touchpad
>> 
>> My web site, http://theevilchocolatecookie.great-site.net
>> 
 On Sep 15, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Washington 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Explore mode? How do I access that feature? Sounds like it provides 
>>> similar capabilities to the review mode on a Fire TV device.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm really wanting something that will repeat information spoken by 
>>> VoiceOver. Sometimes Siri pronounces words oddly, and I need to hear it 
>>> again to make out what she said.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So if know review mode, maybe a way to repeat previously spoken information?
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/15/2021 1:45 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
 Not a review mode but they have a
 Navigation mode and explore mode
 
 One allows you to just work around and figure out things
 And the other lets you select and enable.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Kenneth Washington
 Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 5:01 pm
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?
 
 Hello,
 
 
 Does anyone know if the Apple TV 4K (2nd generation) have a review mode 
 for VoiceOver. Something that allows a user to explore the content 
 displayed in a grid layout of an Apple TV screen item by item.
 
 
 If so, how do I activate it?
 
 
 My Fire TV Cube has such an accessibility feature for Voice Guide. You 
 hold the menu button down on the remote control for 3 seconds to enable it.
 
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Re: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

[Kenneth Washington]

Thanks.


On 9/15/2021 9:58 AM, The Evil Chocolate Cookie wrote:

Triple tap with two fingers on the remote touchpad

My web site, http://theevilchocolatecookie.great-site.net


On Sep 15, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Washington  
wrote:

Explore mode? How do I access that feature? Sounds like it provides similar 
capabilities to the review mode on a Fire TV device.


I'm really wanting something that will repeat information spoken by VoiceOver. 
Sometimes Siri pronounces words oddly, and I need to hear it again to make out 
what she said.


So if know review mode, maybe a way to repeat previously spoken information?



On 9/15/2021 1:45 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Not a review mode but they have a
Navigation mode and explore mode

One allows you to just work around and figure out things
And the other lets you select and enable.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 5:01 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

Hello,


Does anyone know if the Apple TV 4K (2nd generation) have a review mode for 
VoiceOver. Something that allows a user to explore the content displayed in a 
grid layout of an Apple TV screen item by item.


If so, how do I activate it?


My Fire TV Cube has such an accessibility feature for Voice Guide. You hold the 
menu button down on the remote control for 3 seconds to enable it.

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>> will
>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>> but
>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>> with
>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
>>> function
>>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what
>>> the
>>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just
>>> 1
>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>>> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in
>>> Australia
>>> and was not impressed.
>>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading
>>> any
>>> hardware this year.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>>>
>>> On 15 Sep 2021

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
black. I would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours when
> available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in pink. As it
> is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 5 for another year
> at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope the pink mini doesn’t
> tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from
>>> past
>>> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new
>>> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be
>>> in
>>> people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to
>>> count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>> will
>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>> but
>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>> with
>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
>>> function
>>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what
>>> the
>>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just
>>> 1
>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>>> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in
>>> Australia
>>> and was not impressed.
>>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading
>>> any
>>> hardware this year.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>>>
>>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel
>>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have
>>> an
>>> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also
>>> an
>>> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic
>>> iPad.
>>>
>>> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini
>>> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would
>>> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
>>> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new
>>> camera systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on
>>> the
>>> Pro Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for m

Re: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

[The Evil Chocolate Cookie]

Triple tap with two fingers on the remote touchpad

My web site, http://theevilchocolatecookie.great-site.net

> On Sep 15, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Washington  
> wrote:
> 
> Explore mode? How do I access that feature? Sounds like it provides similar 
> capabilities to the review mode on a Fire TV device.
> 
> 
> I'm really wanting something that will repeat information spoken by 
> VoiceOver. Sometimes Siri pronounces words oddly, and I need to hear it again 
> to make out what she said.
> 
> 
> So if know review mode, maybe a way to repeat previously spoken information?
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/2021 1:45 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Not a review mode but they have a
>> Navigation mode and explore mode
>> 
>> One allows you to just work around and figure out things
>> And the other lets you select and enable.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kenneth Washington
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 5:01 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV 4K (2nd generation) have a review mode for 
>> VoiceOver. Something that allows a user to explore the content displayed in 
>> a grid layout of an Apple TV screen item by item.
>> 
>> 
>> If so, how do I activate it?
>> 
>> 
>> My Fire TV Cube has such an accessibility feature for Voice Guide. You hold 
>> the menu button down on the remote control for 3 seconds to enable it.
>> 
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Re: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

[Kenneth Washington]

Explore mode? How do I access that feature? Sounds like it provides 
similar capabilities to the review mode on a Fire TV device.



I'm really wanting something that will repeat information spoken by 
VoiceOver. Sometimes Siri pronounces words oddly, and I need to hear it 
again to make out what she said.



So if know review mode, maybe a way to repeat previously spoken information?


On 9/15/2021 1:45 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Not a review mode but they have a
Navigation mode and explore mode

One allows you to just work around and figure out things
And the other lets you select and enable.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenneth 
Washington
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 5:01 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Does Screen Review on The Apple TV 4K 2nd Generation Exist?

Hello,


Does anyone know if the Apple TV 4K (2nd generation) have a review mode for 
VoiceOver. Something that allows a user to explore the content displayed in a 
grid layout of an Apple TV screen item by item.


If so, how do I activate it?


My Fire TV Cube has such an accessibility feature for Voice Guide. You hold the 
menu button down on the remote control for 3 seconds to enable it.

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Specifications for the 13 Pro Max, was about after the apple event ...

[Richard Turner]

According to the site I usually find by searching for specifications for 
specific phones, the standby/talk time is 28 hours on the 13 pro max; 95 hours 
of music playback,

Definition

 Talk time is the officially quoted longest time that a single battery charge 
will last when you are constantly talking on the phone.

The talk time is highly dependent on the cellular network environment such as 
the distance to the closest GSM cell tower. Moving fast while talking (as in a 
vehicle) also negatively affects battery life.

Manufacturers measure talk time in controlled conditions and the quoted numbers 
are rarely reached in real-life scenarios. These numbers are best used as 
reference when comparing phones from the same manufacturer because battery life 
measurement methodology will probably vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Quite often you will find the Talk time field in the specification pages of new 
phones empty as the

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_13_pro_max-11089.php

Richard
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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Angie Nutt]

Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours when 
available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in pink. As it is, 
I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 5 for another year at 
least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. 
LOL

All the best
Angie

> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
> getting!
> 
> Kindly,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past
>> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new
>> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in
>> people’s hands.
>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to
>> count on the 24th at the latest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will
>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but
>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with
>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function
>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the
>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1
>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia
>> and was not impressed.
>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any
>> hardware this year.
>> Sincerely,
>> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>> 
>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an
>> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an
>> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>> 
>> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini
>> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would
>> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
>> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new
>> camera systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the
>> Pro Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people
>> this is of little relevance.
>> 
>> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all
>> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I
>> don't think so.
>> 
>> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to