RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Dennis Long]

I was worried about the same thing as you.  I got a 13 pro because of the 
bigger battery.  I get a day plus.  I can do the home gesture.I am very 
happy with my 13 pro.  It was the best purchase I made in a long while.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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mirroring the iPhone?

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi all,
I am tired of having to delete my text messages and phone messages from both 
the watch and iPhone.  I seem to recall seeing mirror iPhone or something to 
that effect, in a couple of different places.  Can someone tell me what I 
need to do to get this to quit?  If I delete one, I would like the other 
place to be deleted as well.  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be 
great in whatever they want to do.
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RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think you can make voice calls with a Sonos Roam; in fact while Alexa 
works well on any Sonos speaker, the ability to use the Alexa Intercom 
functionality or to make phone calls is blocked somehow. I don't know why this 
is, but unless something changed very recently it is not possible.
Also, my Wanderboom 2 does not have a microphone, it is strictly a Bluetooth 
speaker. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: December 14, 2021 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

Yeah I hve a UE Boom 2 speaker that I have used with my phone and it has a 
microphone in it 

We used it for phone calls with friends in Australia before zoom and facetime 
really got up and running.

Not sure how much they cost these days 

The other might be the sonos roam 
Which I believe  has a microphone in it.
-Original Message-
From: 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 2:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

Hi All, 

Before I search on Amazon, LOL. 

Is anyone currently using a BluTooth speaker connected to their iPhone with a 
microphone built in to the speaker?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook

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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can of course also go to an Apple Store and spend I think it's probably 
about $49 for an SE 2020 and get them to put in a new battery.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: December 14, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

First of all, thanksto everyone. I've received very helpful advice.  I have the 
S E 220.  I'm now thinking of getting one of those apple smart cases.  I was 
told that there is an apple smart case for the 8 which is and would fit the S E

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7, The 12 range and the 13 range 
> don't have home buttons but you can set the power button to switch 
> voiceover off / on,
> 
> But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the 
> SE 2020 which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to 
> the iPHone 7 And work as you would know your current phone does.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lelia Struve
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Mike Arrigo]

The only modern iphone that still has the home button is the Iphone SE2. For 
phones with no home button, pressing the power button 3 times in a row will 
turn voiceover on and off, you can also change this in accessibility settings 
but I can't think of why you would want to do that.

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Home button [was "RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

For those who don't have any experience with an iPhone that doesn't have a home 
button, and who may be skeptical about getting an iPhone without a home button, 
I'd just like to share my experience from earlier today. I was in the waiting 
room while my wife was having a medical procedure done, and I was constantly 
going back and forth between my person iPhone 11 and my employer's iPhone 7, 
and I realized that all things being equal, I definitely prefer a phone without 
a home button. Note that having a home button wouldn't be a deal breaker with 
me, I just found it so much easier finding things in my dock or up in the 
status bar without having to worry about that space you lose with the home 
button. Plus I think it makes braille screen input a lot easier as well. If 
people have experience with both, and prefer a phone with a home button, then 
that's great, but if you're skeptical about getting a phone without a home 
button then I'd really suggest you give it a go before deciding that you prefer 
a phone with a home button. That's just my $0.02.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7, The 12 range and the 13 range don't 
have home buttons but you can set the power button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Tap to wake or not

[Carolyn]

Yep, that figures, Simon.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap to wake or not

Probably because something is tapping against the screen and waking it up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:43 am
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Tap to wake or not

Hi,
I prefer the Tap to wake, but as I said the phone keeps waking in my pocket.
Max.  

> On 14 Dec 2021, at 5:59 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have it turned on and like it, but you should just try as this is entirely 
> subjective and you'll get many who say they turn it off and others say they 
> turn it on. Even if 8 out of 10 say they turn it off then for me that is 
> still not the correct setting and if you happen to like it as I do then even 
> if everybody said you should turn it off it would be not good to do so.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Agent086b
> Sent: December 11, 2021 3:50 PM
> To: iPhone List > 
> Subject: Tap to wake or not
> 
> Hi all,
> do people have there phones set on tap to wake or just use the side button.
> I found with my previous screen it would keep waking when it bumped anything 
> when in my pocket. However that was with a non Apple screen. I can’t remember 
> if it did that when the phone had a genuine screen.
> Just am interested what people who keep the phones in there pockets. I 
> suspect ladies don’t have this problem if they put it in a handbag.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> Max.
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RE: Tap to wake or not

[Carolyn]

That's the problem with Tap to Wake, activity while in pocket. 

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Agent086b
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:43 PM
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Hi,
I prefer the Tap to wake, but as I said the phone keeps waking in my pocket.
Max.  

> On 14 Dec 2021, at 5:59 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have it turned on and like it, but you should just try as this is entirely 
> subjective and you'll get many who say they turn it off and others say they 
> turn it on. Even if 8 out of 10 say they turn it off then for me that is 
> still not the correct setting and if you happen to like it as I do then even 
> if everybody said you should turn it off it would be not good to do so.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: December 11, 2021 3:50 PM
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> Subject: Tap to wake or not
> 
> Hi all,
> do people have there phones set on tap to wake or just use the side button.
> I found with my previous screen it would keep waking when it bumped anything 
> when in my pocket. However that was with a non Apple screen. I can’t remember 
> if it did that when the phone had a genuine screen.
> Just am interested what people who keep the phones in there pockets. I 
> suspect ladies don’t have this problem if they put it in a handbag.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> Max.
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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Carolyn]

Press side button three times to turn VoiceOver off and on. 

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Lelia Struve
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:09 PM
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Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

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RE: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I hve a UE Boom 2 speaker that I have used with my phone and it has a 
microphone in it 

We used it for phone calls with friends in Australia before zoom and facetime 
really got up and running.

Not sure how much they cost these days 

The other might be the sonos roam 
Which I believe  has a microphone in it.
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Hi All, 

Before I search on Amazon, LOL. 

Is anyone currently using a BluTooth speaker connected to their iPhone with a 
microphone built in to the speaker?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook

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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Lelia.  If you are having battery problems, why not just get a new
battery for your iPhone.  That's what I did with my iPhone 8.

On 12/14/21, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> First of all, thanksto everyone. I've received very helpful advice.  I have
> the S E 220.  I'm now thinking of getting one of those apple smart cases.  I
> was told that there is an apple smart case for the 8 which is and would fit
> the S E
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7,
>> The 12 range and the 13 range don't have home buttons but you can set the
>> power button to switch voiceover off / on,
>>
>> But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE
>> 2020 which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to
>> the iPHone 7
>> And work as you would know your current phone does.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions
>>
>> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I
>> called verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone
>> 12.  Here is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a
>> better battery than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my
>> question.  My first question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or
>> the S E. Second, if I don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on
>> and off? I know I can use seri but is there another way to turn voice over
>> on and offf.
>>
>>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Lelia Struve]

First of all, thanksto everyone. I've received very helpful advice.  I have the 
S E 220.  I'm now thinking of getting one of those apple smart cases.  I was 
told that there is an apple smart case for the 8 which is and would fit the S E

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7,
> The 12 range and the 13 range don't have home buttons but you can set the 
> power button to switch voiceover off / on,
> 
> But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 
> 2020 which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the 
> iPHone 7 
> And work as you would know your current phone does.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
> Struve
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Tap to wake or not

[Simon A Fogarty]

Probably because something is tapping against the screen and waking it up.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:43 am
To: viphone 
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Hi,
I prefer the Tap to wake, but as I said the phone keeps waking in my pocket.
Max.  

> On 14 Dec 2021, at 5:59 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have it turned on and like it, but you should just try as this is entirely 
> subjective and you'll get many who say they turn it off and others say they 
> turn it on. Even if 8 out of 10 say they turn it off then for me that is 
> still not the correct setting and if you happen to like it as I do then even 
> if everybody said you should turn it off it would be not good to do so.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Agent086b
> Sent: December 11, 2021 3:50 PM
> To: iPhone List > 
> Subject: Tap to wake or not
> 
> Hi all,
> do people have there phones set on tap to wake or just use the side button.
> I found with my previous screen it would keep waking when it bumped anything 
> when in my pocket. However that was with a non Apple screen. I can’t remember 
> if it did that when the phone had a genuine screen.
> Just am interested what people who keep the phones in there pockets. I 
> suspect ladies don’t have this problem if they put it in a handbag.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> Max.
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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

The 12  is bigger than the se and the 7,
The 12 range and the 13 range don't have home buttons but you can set the power 
button to switch voiceover off / on,

But is your SE one of the original from about 5 years ago or is it the SE 2020 
which does have a home button and would be pretty much identical to the iPHone 
7 
And work as you would know your current phone does.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2021 9:09 am
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

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RE: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Lelia,

 

Below is a list of dimensions for the iPhone SE 2020 which is the same 
physically as the iPhone 7 and 8 as compared to the iPhone 12:

 


Height


iPhone SE 2020: 5.45 inches

iPhone 12: 5.78 inches


Width


iPhone SE 2020: 2.65 inches

iPhone 12: 2.82 inches


Depth


iPhone SE 2020: 0.29 inches

iPhone 12: 0.29 inches


Weight


iPhone SE 2020: 5.22 ounces

iPhone 12: 5.78 ounces


Display diagonal


iPhone SE 2020: 4.7 inch

iPhone 12: 6.1 inch

 

As others have mentioned, when first powering on your new iPhone 12, you can 
press the side power button 3 times to turn Voiceover on. After you’ve set up 
your new device, go to Settings, Accessibility, and swipe to the next to last 
item on the screen which is Accessibility shortcut and double tap it and find 
Voiceover on the screen that opens and double tap it to select it as your 
shortcut. This will ensure that pressing the side power button 3 times will 
toggle Voiceover either on or off for your device.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 2:09 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Getting a new phone and asking questions

 

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

 

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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Wayne Merritt]

If you're concerned about the size, you could get a 12 Mini or 13
Mini. The 12 Mini is likely to be cheaper since it is last year's
model. In my opinion, size and speech voices are subjective, and
everyone has their own preferences of what they like. I think most
people can get used to a larger sized phone. If I put my 2020 SE work
phone on top of my personal iPhone 11, the 11 is only slightly longer
or bigger. Both phones have cases, but if I took them out and compared
their sizes, I think there's a slight difference but not much.
Besides, a "bigger" phone means more icons on the screen and
potentially better battery life.

Good luck,
Wayne Merritt

On 12/14/21, joseph hudson  wrote:
> Hello, yes you will be able to do three clicks of the power button, and that
> will turn off and on voiceover. On the newer model phones. Secondly, I know
> how you feel about that esses battery. I have the same issue. However, I
> heard on the newer models, you can assign the back tab to do the home
> gesture and the app switcher. So no loss there if I have to upgrade. And as
> far as the size, I will say, they're a little bit wider as in terms of the
> screen, but they'll still easily fit in the hand or a pocket.
> And I do recommend, if you're really on for sure of the size, take a trip to
> your local Apple store or your local Verizon store and let him know, that
> you would like to see one of these phones.
>> On Dec 14, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I
>> called verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone
>> 12.  Here is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a
>> better battery than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my
>> question.  My first question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or
>> the S E. Second, if I don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on
>> and off? I know I can use seri but is there another way to turn voice over
>> on and offf.
>>
>>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Getting a new phone and asking questions

[joseph hudson]

Hello, yes you will be able to do three clicks of the power button, and that 
will turn off and on voiceover. On the newer model phones. Secondly, I know how 
you feel about that esses battery. I have the same issue. However, I heard on 
the newer models, you can assign the back tab to do the home gesture and the 
app switcher. So no loss there if I have to upgrade. And as far as the size, I 
will say, they're a little bit wider as in terms of the screen, but they'll 
still easily fit in the hand or a pocket.
And I do recommend, if you're really on for sure of the size, take a trip to 
your local Apple store or your local Verizon store and let him know, that you 
would like to see one of these phones.
> On Dec 14, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
> verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here 
> is what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery 
> than the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first 
> question is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I 
> don't have a home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can 
> use seri but is there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 
> 
>  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Tap to wake or not

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I prefer the Tap to wake, but as I said the phone keeps waking in my pocket.
Max.  

> On 14 Dec 2021, at 5:59 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I have it turned on and like it, but you should just try as this is entirely 
> subjective and you'll get many who say they turn it off and others say they 
> turn it on. Even if 8 out of 10 say they turn it off then for me that is 
> still not the correct setting and if you happen to like it as I do then even 
> if everybody said you should turn it off it would be not good to do so.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Agent086b
> Sent: December 11, 2021 3:50 PM
> To: iPhone List > 
> Subject: Tap to wake or not
> 
> Hi all,
> do people have there phones set on tap to wake or just use the side button.
> I found with my previous screen it would keep waking when it bumped anything 
> when in my pocket. However that was with a non Apple screen. I can’t remember 
> if it did that when the phone had a genuine screen.
> Just am interested what people who keep the phones in there pockets. I 
> suspect ladies don’t have this problem if they put it in a handbag.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> Max.
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Getting a new phone and asking questions

[Lelia Struve]

Hi all, so right now I have an iPhone S E and the battery is crappy. I called 
verizon and told them what "i wanted and they suggested an iPhone 12.  Here is 
what I want.   I want an iPhone with a home button and a better battery than 
the S E.  If I can't have a home button here is my question.  My first question 
is the 12 the same size as either the 7 or the S E. Second, if I don't have a 
home button how do I turn voice over on and off? I know I can use seri but is 
there another way to turn voice over on and offf. 

  thanks in advance for any help.Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: message app has disappeared from my home page, and and also my phone says Doc and contacts together when going into home screen?

['Pat Marshall' via VIPhone]

Hi All,

Thanks to all who assisted me re above.   all fixed now and yes I obviously at 
some stage deleted the messages from my home page.  




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RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

[Richard Turner]

Actually Sieghard, it wasn't the handwashing routine that started, it was the 
fall detection and was getting ready to contact emergency services ... so I 
stopped it.  How silly would I have felt had the fire department and/or police 
shown up because I was doing laundry ... pretty silly 😊.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Hey Richard, then when it happens as you are tossing laundry into the dryer, I 
hope you continue to toss until it has finished counting down!
Personally I find this a bit too gimmicky for me, I have washed my hands for 
50+ years without a watch telling me how long to do so and even during COVID 
times it just becomes second nature to do it properly. But that is me and I 
certainly don't want to discourage anybody from using it if they find it useful.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: December 11, 2021 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing 😊.

Another answer, it is magic.

The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a specific 
pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like when it thought I had 
fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer

Later,


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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?  I'll have 
to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your hands and not just 
using water for something else?

Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are washing
your hands it counts down

On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to wash your
> hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing in the garden, food from mixing 
> a
>
> meatloaf and so on.  Did you put the handwashing feature in one of your
> watch faces? Or do you wander through your apps until you find it, and 
> then
>
> at that point what needs a bath more, you or your watch.  I guess the 
> point
>
> of this is, What is the easiest way to find this app?
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:07 AM
> Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous watch
> was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.
>
> I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of my
> series 4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were transferred to
> the
> new watch.
>
> So, I decided to give this new hand-washing timer a try.  I have to admit,
> it is kind of fun.
>
> I have always considered myself to be a rather thorough hand washer but, 
> as
> of my new purchase, I find that I need to work a little harder to get the
> job done right (smile).
>
> Anyway, the hand-washing detection / timer feature is most definitely my
> first new favorite feature of Apple watch series 7.
>
> What a wonderful tool to have onboard.  Bravo, Apple.
>
> Mark
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RE: Two Apple watches

[Carolyn]

Also, if you have an 8 or older, dollar earbuds with a 3.5 connecter will work, 
did in my SE. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two Apple watches

Hi Donna, I can't remember which iPhone you have, but I know for sure up until 
the iPhone 11 at least each iPhone came with a set of Earpods which can also be 
had from Apple for I think $19.99. I don't want to minimize your situation and 
that you don't want to spend money unnecessarily, but for me a set of wired 
headphones are an essential item and I feel that these inexpensive Apple 
Earpods are the absolute best value as the functionality with the little inline 
remote is great and in my opinion they sound pretty amazing for such a simple 
and inexpensive item. Just my 2 cents worth.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: December 14, 2021 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two Apple watches

Siegard,

I don't own a pair of earbuds/earpods/earphones. And no I'm not getting any for 
Xmas. I have absolutely NO friends or family, except my partner & 3 kids who 
live in the same house with me. Being a parent of a severely disabled child is 
lonely. Family & friends left not long after my son's birth. The closest thing 
I have to a friend are Doctors, nurses, therapists & teachers. The needs of my 
children  & those necessities for survival come first. So buying myself such an 
item isn't in the budget. My son goes on Xmas break on Friday, so I'll give my 
idea of two Apple ID's a try.

Donna
k
> 
> Use a wired headset so you don't deal with any Bluetooth delays and you can 
> easily call Apple Accessibility and also do stuff on your iPhone if they ask 
> you to do so. I use my iPhone all the time while I'm on a call to check a 
> text message or email which came in, even reply briefly if that is all it 
> takes, to write something down in Notes, to check somebody's phone number or 
> address and pass it along to the person I am speaking with etc. I guess 
> probably one of the few things you can't do while you are on a call is to use 
> SIRI or use a recording app.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: December 12, 2021 9:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two Apple watches
> 
> Simon,
> 
> I have not called Apple accessibility, yet. I don't have a second phone to 
> use so that they can walk me through the process if what I want to do is 
> possible. I guess I'm going to have to call, take notes, hang up try the 
> given advice & if the advice works, then great. If not, I'll just have to 
> call Apple accessibility a 2nd time. Thanks anyway for your honesty & input.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> HI Donna,
>> 
>> I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.
>> 
>> But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,
>> 
>> Or should that be paired with a phone,
>> 
>> But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck with what yu're trying to do!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
>> Casteen
>> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Two Apple watches
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
>> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
>> 
>> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
>> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
>> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
>> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
>> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
>> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
>> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
>> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
>> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
>> 
>> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
>> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
>> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on 
>> me. The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
>> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to 
>> a keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
>> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
>> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
>> the long message.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
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RE: Tap to wake or not

[Carolyn]

I guess I was thinking of Shake to Undo. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 2:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap to wake or not

There is no shake to wake and in any case I still decide to wake my phone 
because I have to tap it, but I find it a more natural thing to do for the most 
part than having to press the side button. But as I said, it is entirely 
subjective and depends on what you train your self to do just as in Windows you 
can do the same thing often with a number of keystrokes and some prefer one 
keyboard shortcut over another to do the same thing. You simply have to try it. 
How it reacts to when the phone is in your pocket I don't know because just as 
Richard I can't stand having my iPhone in my pocket, even with a 4-inch iPhone 
5S I felt it was uncomfortable and I always carry my phone in a belt holster.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: December 11, 2021 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap to wake or not

I do not have Tap to Wake, Shake to Wake, or Raise to Wake turned on. I'll turn 
my phone on myself. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Agent086b
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 6:50 PM
To: iPhone List > 
Subject: Tap to wake or not

Hi all,
do people have there phones set on tap to wake or just use the side button.
I found with my previous screen it would keep waking when it bumped anything 
when in my pocket. However that was with a non Apple screen. I can’t remember 
if it did that when the phone had a genuine screen.
Just am interested what people who keep the phones in there pockets. I suspect 
ladies don’t have this problem if they put it in a handbag.
Thanks for your ideas.
Max.

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RE: Two Apple watches

[Carolyn]

They generally ask me if I am on another phone. However, I wonder now, if I 
could call on my phone and still allow tandum? Now that I know I can go into 
apps, when on a phone conversation, I just wonder if that could work. Since I 
have another phone I can use, I have always called on it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two Apple watches

Use a wired headset so you don't deal with any Bluetooth delays and you can 
easily call Apple Accessibility and also do stuff on your iPhone if they ask 
you to do so. I use my iPhone all the time while I'm on a call to check a text 
message or email which came in, even reply briefly if that is all it takes, to 
write something down in Notes, to check somebody's phone number or address and 
pass it along to the person I am speaking with etc. I guess probably one of the 
few things you can't do while you are on a call is to use SIRI or use a 
recording app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: December 12, 2021 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two Apple watches

Simon,

I have not called Apple accessibility, yet. I don't have a second phone to use 
so that they can walk me through the process if what I want to do is possible. 
I guess I'm going to have to call, take notes, hang up try the given advice & 
if the advice works, then great. If not, I'll just have to call Apple 
accessibility a 2nd time. Thanks anyway for your honesty & input.

Donna
   
> 
> HI Donna,
> 
> I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.
> 
> But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,
> 
> Or should that be paired with a phone,
> 
> But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck with what yu're trying to do!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two Apple watches
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
> 
> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
> 
> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
> The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a 
> keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
> the long message.
> 
> Donna
> 
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RE: a headphone adapter

[Kathy Blackburn]

I believe the company name is spelled Belkin.
Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com
On Dec 13, 2021 10:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Hi kay,
 
Yeah a belcon rockstar,
 
They are available on the apple website or apple stores and I think amazon as well.
 
Plus there is just a straight maile lightening connector and female headphone jack you can get. Again from both options.
 


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Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 5:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a headphone adapter


 

I don't know if it was on this list, but a while ago someone mentioned an adapter for the newer iPhones that plug in to the lightning port on the iPhone.  The one I have just
 has the 3.5 female jack for the headphones.  What I saw and didn't keep was an adapter that plugged in to the lightning port of the phone and had a 3.5 female jack and a female lightning plug for charging or plugging something else in to it.  I think it might
 have been called a rockstar but am not sure.  If anyone can help, this would be great.  Thanks much.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmquist@gmail.com


 


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RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Pretty much most wireless charging uses the Qi standard including Apple, 
Samsung and many others. I assume the proprietary charging stand from Sonos 
will maybe give the Roam a bit more stability, but I rarely use the cable to 
charge my Roam and instead just stand it on the charging pad I use for my 
iPhone; of course you stand it on the side opposite from where the buttons are.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: December 14, 2021 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

Yeah UsB C I knew about as it comes with the roam,

 Qi charging pad,
You shitting me?

Are they not a prpriotory connection?

Currently I'm stuck between do I pay 700 for the bigger sound and more solid 
speaker,

Or 300 for the pocket sized speaker with less sound And then have to get the 
wireless charger as an extra.

I like both speakers
The roam is small size and less sound punch,

The move kicks pretty good but is 2.5 times the price.


The choice to make.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:35 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

And just FYI, you can charge the Roam via a USB-C cable or stand it vertically 
onto any Qi charging pad.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: December 13, 2021 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

Yeah was looking at both today,

The roam is very nice and small / compact,

 About half the price of the move if I count in the wifi charging adapter,

But the volume doesn't scare the neighbours if I turn it up.

But in saying that the roam  still has a nice volume and the battery life is 
pretty much the same in both devices Approx. 10  hours in each.
But I"ve not yet been able to try a move with my own music 


Cheers though
It's good to know they work well off the phone.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 1:37 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth / wifi speakers

I have the Roam and love it.
It works great as a bluetooth speaker for my iPhone when needed, otherwise is 
plugged in as part of the overall system in our house providing music in a 
small room.



Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 13, 2021, at 1:28 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi lists,
> 
> I find myself in need of a replacement Bluetooth / wireless capable 
> speaker
> 
> I have currently a number of sonos products around my house and I'm 
> looking Primarily at the sonos roam and move portable speakers
> 
> I just wondered if anyone has had an interaction with both if not 
> either of these, Other than in a store / retail display stand?
> 
> They need to be able to talk with my iPhone and both these do with airplay 2 
> if not Bluetooth 5.x.
> 
> I have one in mind over the other but would like to hear other peoples views 
> on these devices if possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Simon F
> 
> 
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RE: Two Apple watches

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Donna, I can't remember which iPhone you have, but I know for sure up until 
the iPhone 11 at least each iPhone came with a set of Earpods which can also be 
had from Apple for I think $19.99. I don't want to minimize your situation and 
that you don't want to spend money unnecessarily, but for me a set of wired 
headphones are an essential item and I feel that these inexpensive Apple 
Earpods are the absolute best value as the functionality with the little inline 
remote is great and in my opinion they sound pretty amazing for such a simple 
and inexpensive item. Just my 2 cents worth.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: December 14, 2021 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two Apple watches

Siegard,

I don't own a pair of earbuds/earpods/earphones. And no I'm not getting any for 
Xmas. I have absolutely NO friends or family, except my partner & 3 kids who 
live in the same house with me. Being a parent of a severely disabled child is 
lonely. Family & friends left not long after my son's birth. The closest thing 
I have to a friend are Doctors, nurses, therapists & teachers. The needs of my 
children  & those necessities for survival come first. So buying myself such an 
item isn't in the budget. My son goes on Xmas break on Friday, so I'll give my 
idea of two Apple ID's a try.

Donna
k
> 
> Use a wired headset so you don't deal with any Bluetooth delays and you can 
> easily call Apple Accessibility and also do stuff on your iPhone if they ask 
> you to do so. I use my iPhone all the time while I'm on a call to check a 
> text message or email which came in, even reply briefly if that is all it 
> takes, to write something down in Notes, to check somebody's phone number or 
> address and pass it along to the person I am speaking with etc. I guess 
> probably one of the few things you can't do while you are on a call is to use 
> SIRI or use a recording app.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: December 12, 2021 9:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two Apple watches
> 
> Simon,
> 
> I have not called Apple accessibility, yet. I don't have a second phone to 
> use so that they can walk me through the process if what I want to do is 
> possible. I guess I'm going to have to call, take notes, hang up try the 
> given advice & if the advice works, then great. If not, I'll just have to 
> call Apple accessibility a 2nd time. Thanks anyway for your honesty & input.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> HI Donna,
>> 
>> I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.
>> 
>> But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,
>> 
>> Or should that be paired with a phone,
>> 
>> But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck with what yu're trying to do!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
>> Casteen
>> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Two Apple watches
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
>> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
>> 
>> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
>> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
>> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
>> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
>> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
>> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
>> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
>> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
>> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
>> 
>> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
>> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
>> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on 
>> me. The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
>> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to 
>> a keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
>> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
>> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
>> the long message.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

[David Ferrin]

I have these speakers and their brand is rain dance. They were around 
$25 on Amazon. They are quite powerful even though they are only 10 
watts. Their range is well over 100 feet, and I have tested them out so 
I can confirm they will reach that far.



David Ferrin
botanybay1...@gmail.com

On 12/14/2021 8:35 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi All,

Before I search on Amazon, LOL.

Is anyone currently using a BluTooth speaker connected to their iPhone with a 
microphone built in to the speaker?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook



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Bluetooth Speaker With Microphone

['Cook, Steve' via VIPhone]

Hi All, 

Before I search on Amazon, LOL. 

Is anyone currently using a BluTooth speaker connected to their iPhone with a 
microphone built in to the speaker?  Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook

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Re: Two Apple watches

[Donna Casteen]

Siegard,

I don't own a pair of earbuds/earpods/earphones. And no I'm not getting any for 
Xmas. I have absolutely NO friends or family, except my partner & 3 kids who 
live in the same house with me. Being a parent of a severely disabled child is 
lonely. Family & friends left not long after my son's birth. The closest thing 
I have to a friend are Doctors, nurses, therapists & teachers. The needs of my 
children  & those necessities for survival come first. So buying myself such an 
item isn't in the budget. My son goes on Xmas break on Friday, so I'll give my 
idea of two Apple ID's a try.

Donna
k
> 
> Use a wired headset so you don't deal with any Bluetooth delays and you can 
> easily call Apple Accessibility and also do stuff on your iPhone if they ask 
> you to do so. I use my iPhone all the time while I'm on a call to check a 
> text message or email which came in, even reply briefly if that is all it 
> takes, to write something down in Notes, to check somebody's phone number or 
> address and pass it along to the person I am speaking with etc. I guess 
> probably one of the few things you can't do while you are on a call is to use 
> SIRI or use a recording app.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: December 12, 2021 9:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two Apple watches
> 
> Simon,
> 
> I have not called Apple accessibility, yet. I don't have a second phone to 
> use so that they can walk me through the process if what I want to do is 
> possible. I guess I'm going to have to call, take notes, hang up try the 
> given advice & if the advice works, then great. If not, I'll just have to 
> call Apple accessibility a 2nd time. Thanks anyway for your honesty & input.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> HI Donna,
>> 
>> I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.
>> 
>> But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,
>> 
>> Or should that be paired with a phone,
>> 
>> But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck with what yu're trying to do!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
>> Casteen
>> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Two Apple watches
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
>> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
>> 
>> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
>> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
>> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
>> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
>> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
>> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
>> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
>> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
>> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
>> 
>> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
>> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
>> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on 
>> me. The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
>> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to 
>> a keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
>> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
>> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
>> the long message.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
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['Pat Marshall' via VIPhone]

thanks but slightly complicated for me.  I shall have a go but will probably 
end up asking a sighted person to help.  Nuisance when these mobiles do 
something annoying.  Thanks anyway.




Pat M 




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RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah UsB C I knew about as it comes with the roam,

 Qi charging pad,
You shitting me?

Are they not a prpriotory connection?

Currently I'm stuck between do I pay 700 for the bigger sound and more solid 
speaker,

Or 300 for the pocket sized speaker with less sound 
And then have to get the wireless charger as an extra.

I like both speakers 
The roam is small size and less sound punch,

The move kicks pretty good but is 2.5 times the price.


The choice to make.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 8:35 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

And just FYI, you can charge the Roam via a USB-C cable or stand it vertically 
onto any Qi charging pad.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: December 13, 2021 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth / wifi speakers

Yeah was looking at both today,

The roam is very nice and small / compact,

 About half the price of the move if I count in the wifi charging adapter,

But the volume doesn't scare the neighbours if I turn it up.

But in saying that the roam  still has a nice volume and the battery life is 
pretty much the same in both devices Approx. 10  hours in each.
But I"ve not yet been able to try a move with my own music 


Cheers though
It's good to know they work well off the phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2021 1:37 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth / wifi speakers

I have the Roam and love it.
It works great as a bluetooth speaker for my iPhone when needed, otherwise is 
plugged in as part of the overall system in our house providing music in a 
small room.



Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 13, 2021, at 1:28 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi lists,
> 
> I find myself in need of a replacement Bluetooth / wireless capable 
> speaker
> 
> I have currently a number of sonos products around my house and I'm 
> looking Primarily at the sonos roam and move portable speakers
> 
> I just wondered if anyone has had an interaction with both if not 
> either of these, Other than in a store / retail display stand?
> 
> They need to be able to talk with my iPhone and both these do with airplay 2 
> if not Bluetooth 5.x.
> 
> I have one in mind over the other but would like to hear other peoples views 
> on these devices if possible.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Simon F
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