Re: Did IOS 16.02 gget rid of the voice mail transcript?

2022-10-06 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
I didn’t know transcripts were available - is there a setting somewhere?
Thanks

Harry UK 

> On 7 Oct 2022, at 06:48, Marty Hutchings  wrote:
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> I just upgraded my iPhone 8 to IOS 16.02 and now I noticed that my latest 
> voice mails do not have the transcript any more.  What Gives?
> 
> Marty H.
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Did IOS 16.02 gget rid of the voice mail transcript?

2022-10-06 Thread Marty Hutchings 
I just upgraded my iPhone 8 to IOS 16.02 and now I noticed that my 
latest voice mails do not have the transcript any more.  What Gives?


Marty H.

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Re: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?

2022-10-06 Thread Mary Otten 
I guess the new one has a little bit faster processor. I have the seven. Check 
that. I have the SE cellular. So my processor isn’t even the one that’s in the 
seven. I really have appreciated the cellular feature. I don’t always have my 
phone. If I go on a bike ride I certainly don’t have it. So for me the cellular 
is kind of cool. $10 a month yes. So I guess it depends on What you think is 
more important. I didn’t hear anything that was all that special for the eight. 
I am waiting for some more significant health things before I spring for the 
full price model.
Mary


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> On Oct 6, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Kevin,
> The decision I have to make is whether to buy series 7 GPS and celular for 
> 350 dollars, or buy series 8 GPS and celular for 500. We are talking about 
> 150 dollars differance. If the main differance is the temprature sensor, it 
> is not worth 150 dollars to me. It is a feature with no use to me. It is a 
> handy feature useful to women who want to monitor their cycle and ovulation 
> if they want to get pregnant.
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I have a Series 7 Apple Watch that I bought as a Birthday present for 
>> myself. I'm very happy with it. I thought about upgrading to a Series 8, but 
>> the only thing that I know it does that mine won't is to measure body 
>> temperature. The Series 8 might have a little more battery level, but it 
>> wasn't enough for me to upgrade it.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> 
>> Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
>> 
>> Kevin and Jilly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
>> Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 
>> 7?
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> I have never owned an Apple Watch, but have been flirting with the idea for 
>> quite sometime. I noticed that the prices of Apple Watches series 7 have 
>> gone down significantly after the release of series 8. That is the reason of 
>> why I like to know the advantages of buying series 8 over series 7, and 
>> whether paying 150 dollars more for getting Apple Watch 8  is worth it.
>> I hope that those of you who own apple watches can help me decide.
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
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RE: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?

2022-10-06 Thread Kevin Minor 
Hi.

When I got my Series 7 Watch, I decided to get the cell feature. It was more a 
novelty thing for me, but it sure came in handy today. I was wearing my watch, 
and decided to take the garbage out. I was wearing clothes with no pockets in 
them, so I had no way to carry my phone with me. In the process of taking the 
garbage to the dumpster, I got disoriented, and was unsure where I was. 
Thankfully, I was able to make a call to the office and have them look for me.

Just goes to show these things come in handy.

Kevin and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 10:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 
7?

Another thing to consider is if you really need a cellular version.  I have had 
both and for me it’s not worth it.  I have my phone with me all the time, so 
having cellular on the watch is pretty much useless.  That’s not to say if you 
want to be untethered from your phone, then the cellular might be worth it.  
But, remember if you put the service on your phone it’s going to be $10 to $20 
a month plus taxes .. 



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> On Oct 6, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Kevin,
> The decision I have to make is whether to buy series 7 GPS and celular for 
> 350 dollars, or buy series 8 GPS and celular for 500. We are talking about 
> 150 dollars differance. If the main differance is the temprature sensor, it 
> is not worth 150 dollars to me. It is a feature with no use to me. It is a 
> handy feature useful to women who want to monitor their cycle and ovulation 
> if they want to get pregnant.
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I have a Series 7 Apple Watch that I bought as a Birthday present for 
>> myself. I'm very happy with it. I thought about upgrading to a Series 8, but 
>> the only thing that I know it does that mine won't is to measure body 
>> temperature. The Series 8 might have a little more battery level, but it 
>> wasn't enough for me to upgrade it.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> 
>> Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
>> 
>> Kevin and Jilly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
>> Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 
>> 7?
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> I have never owned an Apple Watch, but have been flirting with the idea for 
>> quite sometime. I noticed that the prices of Apple Watches series 7 have 
>> gone down significantly after the release of series 8. That is the reason of 
>> why I like to know the advantages of buying series 8 over series 7, and 
>> whether paying 150 dollars more for getting Apple Watch 8  is worth it.
>> I hope that those of you who own apple watches can help me decide.
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?

2022-10-06 Thread Peter Logan 
Another thing to consider is if you really need a cellular version.  I have had 
both and for me it’s not worth it.  I have my phone with me all the time, so 
having cellular on the watch is pretty much useless.  That’s not to say if you 
want to be untethered from your phone, then the cellular might be worth it.  
But, remember if you put the service on your phone it’s going to be $10 to $20 
a month plus taxes .. 



Sent from my IPhone.

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 9:29 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Kevin,
> The decision I have to make is whether to buy series 7 GPS and celular for 
> 350 dollars, or buy series 8 GPS and celular for 500. We are talking about 
> 150 dollars differance. If the main differance is the temprature sensor, it 
> is not worth 150 dollars to me. It is a feature with no use to me. It is a 
> handy feature useful to women who want to monitor their cycle and ovulation 
> if they want to get pregnant.
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I have a Series 7 Apple Watch that I bought as a Birthday present for 
>> myself. I'm very happy with it. I thought about upgrading to a Series 8, but 
>> the only thing that I know it does that mine won't is to measure body 
>> temperature. The Series 8 might have a little more battery level, but it 
>> wasn't enough for me to upgrade it.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> 
>> Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
>> 
>> Kevin and Jilly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
>> Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 
>> 7?
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> I have never owned an Apple Watch, but have been flirting with the idea for 
>> quite sometime. I noticed that the prices of Apple Watches series 7 have 
>> gone down significantly after the release of series 8. That is the reason of 
>> why I like to know the advantages of buying series 8 over series 7, and 
>> whether paying 150 dollars more for getting Apple Watch 8  is worth it.
>> I hope that those of you who own apple watches can help me decide.
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?

2022-10-06 Thread Cris Ali 
Thanks Kevin,
The decision I have to make is whether to buy series 7 GPS and celular for 350 
dollars, or buy series 8 GPS and celular for 500. We are talking about 150 
dollars differance. If the main differance is the temprature sensor, it is not 
worth 150 dollars to me. It is a feature with no use to me. It is a handy 
feature useful to women who want to monitor their cycle and ovulation if they 
want to get pregnant.
Cheers,


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:31 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I have a Series 7 Apple Watch that I bought as a Birthday present for myself. 
> I'm very happy with it. I thought about upgrading to a Series 8, but the only 
> thing that I know it does that mine won't is to measure body temperature. The 
> Series 8 might have a little more battery level, but it wasn't enough for me 
> to upgrade it.
> 
> Just my thoughts.
> 
> Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
> 
> Kevin and Jilly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?
> 
> Hello folks,
> I have never owned an Apple Watch, but have been flirting with the idea for 
> quite sometime. I noticed that the prices of Apple Watches series 7 have gone 
> down significantly after the release of series 8. That is the reason of why I 
> like to know the advantages of buying series 8 over series 7, and whether 
> paying 150 dollars more for getting Apple Watch 8  is worth it.
> I hope that those of you who own apple watches can help me decide.
> Regards
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?

2022-10-06 Thread Kevin Minor 
Hi.

I have a Series 7 Apple Watch that I bought as a Birthday present for myself. 
I'm very happy with it. I thought about upgrading to a Series 8, but the only 
thing that I know it does that mine won't is to measure body temperature. The 
Series 8 might have a little more battery level, but it wasn't enough for me to 
upgrade it.

Just my thoughts.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?

Hello folks,
I have never owned an Apple Watch, but have been flirting with the idea for 
quite sometime. I noticed that the prices of Apple Watches series 7 have gone 
down significantly after the release of series 8. That is the reason of why I 
like to know the advantages of buying series 8 over series 7, and whether 
paying 150 dollars more for getting Apple Watch 8  is worth it.
I hope that those of you who own apple watches can help me decide.
Regards


Sent from my iPhone

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What are the advantages of buying Apple Watch series 8 over series 7?

2022-10-06 Thread Cris Ali 
Hello folks,
I have never owned an Apple Watch, but have been flirting with the idea for 
quite sometime. I noticed that the prices of Apple Watches series 7 have gone 
down significantly after the release of series 8. That is the reason of why I 
like to know the advantages of buying series 8 over series 7, and whether 
paying 150 dollars more for getting Apple Watch 8  is worth it.
I hope that those of you who own apple watches can help me decide.
Regards


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Re: Keyboards for sale, great condition!

2022-10-06 Thread Joe Orozco 
Don't do business with Kliph. He is a poor business man as I've documented here:

https://joeorozco.com/i-have-met-the-enemy-and-he-is-blind/

Joe


On 10/4/22, Kliph  wrote:
>> Hello, I have been granted permission to post these items for sale by Mark
>> Taylor. Also, Please reply to my below email address
>> supp...@sturitup.com 
>> First up, apple magic keyboard with numpad and touchID. Has never been
>> opened, and will only work with M1 Macs. Goes for $179.99 USD on apples
>> website, I’m selling it for $164.99 USD. Again, still in original
>> packaging, has. Never been opened.
>> Second, Apple magic keyboard without touchID and without numpad. Gently
>> used, only use it when I am not in office witch isn’t often. Selling it
>> for $59.99 USD. It normally sells for $89.99.
>> Lastly. I have a Logitech MX mini bluetooth keyboard. Can be paired with 3
>> devices simotaniously, and works with both windows and Mac, as well as
>> iPhone and iPad. I only used it for a day until the different keyboard
>> that my employer purchased arrived. Selling it for $74.99 USD. It sells
>> for $107.99 USD. I will ship in US only, and again, send questions and
>> interest to
>> supp...@sturitup.com 
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

2022-10-06 Thread Barbara Stahl 
So I opened the weather app, then turned the roder's focus to containers. Then 
I swiped down with one finger and voice over cycled through the various parts 
of the weather app page. It said today's weather then another swipe took me to 
the forcast by days, then another swipe took me to the pressure and other 
weather related info section.  It was much faster because I didn't have to 
swipe down through everything to get to this information.  

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> How do you use it other than knowing where it is and clicking on it? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App
> 
> Thanks for the information Richard. 
> I just tried using containers in the weather app, and it does allow you to 
> get to the uv index info and pressure and things like that much faster. I had 
> no idea. I had tried it on the home screen before and found it useless so 
> never tried it again.  
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:02 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks; I had no idea in the world. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App
>> 
>> Containers are Apple's way of dividing the screen into sections.
>> I just checked and now there are only two containers on the home screen, the 
>> section where your apps are listed and the dock along the bottom of the 
>> screen.  It used to be that the Status Bar was also a container, but that 
>> doesn’t seem to be the case.
>> I don't use containers either, but if you have it in your rotor, you can 
>> experiment in different places and see what it does.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 7:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App
>> 
>> I have no idea what Containers are, but I am having no problem with the 
>> Weather app. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Barbara Stahl
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App
>> 
>> Hi! 
>> You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
>> roder, then select containers. 
>> However, this is not necessary to find out the pressure info from the native 
>> weather. app.  I personally, never use containers and access this 
>> information all the time.  
>> You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather 
>> announced by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will 
>> reach all the extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure 
>> visibility and so on. Its pretty easy, but it is a slightly longer process 
>> than it used to be in previous versions of ios. You used to be able to touch 
>> the botum of the screen where it names your selected city and then scroll up 
>> and the information was right there, but now if you try this you end up on 
>> the weather by days portion of the app and must scroll back down again.  
>> 
 On Oct 5, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Margaret Thomas  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, All:
>>> 
>>> I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but 
>>> doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking for 
>>> something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested 
>>> Dark Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old 
>>> post from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon 
>>> phase that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
>>> 
>>> Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be 
>>> heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort 
>>> of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen 
>>> that lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got 
>>> Characters; Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
>>> 
>>> Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can 
>>> get this additional weather information.
>>> 
>>> I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.
>>> 
>>> I'd be very grateful for any help.
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
> On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 Kay,
 When I use

RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

2022-10-06 Thread Carolyn 
How do you use it other than knowing where it is and clicking on it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Thanks for the information Richard. 
I just tried using containers in the weather app, and it does allow you to get 
to the uv index info and pressure and things like that much faster. I had no 
idea. I had tried it on the home screen before and found it useless so never 
tried it again.  

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:02 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks; I had no idea in the world. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App
> 
> Containers are Apple's way of dividing the screen into sections.
> I just checked and now there are only two containers on the home screen, the 
> section where your apps are listed and the dock along the bottom of the 
> screen.  It used to be that the Status Bar was also a container, but that 
> doesn’t seem to be the case.
> I don't use containers either, but if you have it in your rotor, you can 
> experiment in different places and see what it does.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 7:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App
> 
> I have no idea what Containers are, but I am having no problem with the 
> Weather app. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App
> 
> Hi! 
> You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
> roder, then select containers. 
> However, this is not necessary to find out the pressure info from the native 
> weather. app.  I personally, never use containers and access this information 
> all the time.  
> You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced 
> by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all 
> the extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so 
> on. Its pretty easy, but it is a slightly longer process than it used to be 
> in previous versions of ios. You used to be able to touch the botum of the 
> screen where it names your selected city and then scroll up and the 
> information was right there, but now if you try this you end up on the 
> weather by days portion of the app and must scroll back down again.  
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, All:
>> 
>> I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but 
>> doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking for 
>> something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested Dark 
>> Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old post 
>> from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon phase 
>> that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
>> 
>> Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be 
>> heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort 
>> of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen 
>> that lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got Characters; 
>> Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
>> 
>> Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can get 
>> this additional weather information.
>> 
>> I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.
>> 
>> I'd be very grateful for any help.
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
 On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Kay,
>>> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
>>> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 
>>> pm-6pm with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
>>> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
>>> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
>>> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
>>> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
>>> From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right 
>>> flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 
>>> day forecast.
>>> If I

Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

2022-10-06 Thread Barbara Stahl 
Thanks for the information Richard. 
I just tried using containers in the weather app, and it does allow you to get 
to the uv index info and pressure and things like that much faster. I had no 
idea. I had tried it on the home screen before and found it useless so never 
tried it again.  

> On Oct 6, 2022, at 1:02 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks; I had no idea in the world. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App
> 
> Containers are Apple's way of dividing the screen into sections.
> I just checked and now there are only two containers on the home screen, the 
> section where your apps are listed and the dock along the bottom of the 
> screen.  It used to be that the Status Bar was also a container, but that 
> doesn’t seem to be the case.
> I don't use containers either, but if you have it in your rotor, you can 
> experiment in different places and see what it does.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 7:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App
> 
> I have no idea what Containers are, but I am having no problem with the 
> Weather app. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App
> 
> Hi! 
> You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
> roder, then select containers. 
> However, this is not necessary to find out the pressure info from the native 
> weather. app.  I personally, never use containers and access this information 
> all the time.  
> You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced 
> by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all 
> the extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so 
> on. Its pretty easy, but it is a slightly longer process than it used to be 
> in previous versions of ios. You used to be able to touch the botum of the 
> screen where it names your selected city and then scroll up and the 
> information was right there, but now if you try this you end up on the 
> weather by days portion of the app and must scroll back down again.  
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, All:
>> 
>> I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but 
>> doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking for 
>> something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested Dark 
>> Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old post 
>> from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon phase 
>> that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
>> 
>> Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be 
>> heard on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort 
>> of understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen 
>> that lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got Characters; 
>> Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
>> 
>> Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can get 
>> this additional weather information.
>> 
>> I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.
>> 
>> I'd be very grateful for any help.
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
 On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Kay,
>>> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
>>> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 
>>> pm-6pm with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
>>> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
>>> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
>>> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
>>> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
>>> From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right 
>>> flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 
>>> day forecast.
>>> If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, 
>>> Today, Saturday, Sunday, etc.
>>> I think that is everything that is on the screen.
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." - Jane Wagner
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

Re: Taptic Time

2022-10-06 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
I had exactly this problem on my Apple Watch 4. I tried everything and only got 
haptic time to work a couple of times and then it stopped again. I bought a 
refurbished Series 7 and set it up  as a new watch and Taptic time now works 
every time!  A bit drastic but…
Harry UK 

> On 6 Oct 2022, at 19:13, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> My Apple Watch is running OS 9. Prior to this update, I had it set to give 
> time by vibrations rather than through VoiceOver spech. Now, however, If I 
> doule-tap the screen, I get spoken time instead of taptic time. I checked 
> settings, and taptic time is turned on. I'd appreciate any advice. I will 
> email Apple Accessibility later today.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.com
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Taptic Time

2022-10-06 Thread Kathy Blackburn 
My Apple Watch is running OS 9. Prior to this update, I had it set to give time 
by vibrations rather than through VoiceOver spech. Now, however, If I doule-tap 
the screen, I get spoken time instead of taptic time. I checked settings, and 
taptic time is turned on. I'd appreciate any advice. I will email Apple 
Accessibility later today.

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

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RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

2022-10-06 Thread Carolyn 
Thanks; I had no idea in the world. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Containers are Apple's way of dividing the screen into sections.
I just checked and now there are only two containers on the home screen, the 
section where your apps are listed and the dock along the bottom of the screen. 
 It used to be that the Status Bar was also a container, but that doesn’t seem 
to be the case.
I don't use containers either, but if you have it in your rotor, you can 
experiment in different places and see what it does.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

I have no idea what Containers are, but I am having no problem with the Weather 
app. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Hi! 
You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
roder, then select containers. 
However, this is not necessary to find out the pressure info from the native 
weather. app.  I personally, never use containers and access this information 
all the time.  
You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced 
by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all the 
extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so on. Its 
pretty easy, but it is a slightly longer process than it used to be in previous 
versions of ios. You used to be able to touch the botum of the screen where it 
names your selected city and then scroll up and the information was right 
there, but now if you try this you end up on the weather by days portion of the 
app and must scroll back down again.  

> On Oct 5, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but 
> doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking for 
> something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested Dark 
> Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old post 
> from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon phase 
> that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
> 
> Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be heard 
> on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort of 
> understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen that 
> lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got Characters; 
> Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
> 
> Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can get 
> this additional weather information.
> 
> I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.
> 
> I'd be very grateful for any help.
> 
> Margaret
> 
>> On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Kay,
>> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
>> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
>> with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
>> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
>> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
>> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
>> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
>> From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right 
>> flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day 
>> forecast.
>> If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
>> Saturday, Sunday, etc.
>>  I think that is everything that is on the screen.
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather
>> app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then
>> to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
>> interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do
>> to make navigation

RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

2022-10-06 Thread Richard Turner 
Containers are Apple's way of dividing the screen into sections.
I just checked and now there are only two containers on the home screen, the 
section where your apps are listed and the dock along the bottom of the screen. 
 It used to be that the Status Bar was also a container, but that doesn’t seem 
to be the case.
I don't use containers either, but if you have it in your rotor, you can 
experiment in different places and see what it does.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

I have no idea what Containers are, but I am having no problem with the Weather 
app. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Hi! 
You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
roder, then select containers. 
However, this is not necessary to find out the pressure info from the native 
weather. app.  I personally, never use containers and access this information 
all the time.  
You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced 
by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all the 
extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so on. Its 
pretty easy, but it is a slightly longer process than it used to be in previous 
versions of ios. You used to be able to touch the botum of the screen where it 
names your selected city and then scroll up and the information was right 
there, but now if you try this you end up on the weather by days portion of the 
app and must scroll back down again.  

> On Oct 5, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but 
> doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking for 
> something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested Dark 
> Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old post 
> from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon phase 
> that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
> 
> Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be heard 
> on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort of 
> understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen that 
> lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got Characters; 
> Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
> 
> Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can get 
> this additional weather information.
> 
> I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.
> 
> I'd be very grateful for any help.
> 
> Margaret
> 
>> On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Kay,
>> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
>> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
>> with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
>> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
>> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
>> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
>> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
>> From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right 
>> flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day 
>> forecast.
>> If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
>> Saturday, Sunday, etc.
>>  I think that is everything that is on the screen.
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather
>> app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then
>> to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
>> interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do
>> to make navigation easier.
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
>> Bob Proctor
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Weather.
>> That should help. I

RE: Containers And iPhone Weather App

2022-10-06 Thread Carolyn 
I have no idea what Containers are, but I am having no problem with the Weather 
app. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Containers And iPhone Weather App

Hi! 
You add containers to the roder by going to settings, accessibility, then 
roder, then select containers. 
However, this is not necessary to find out the pressure info from the native 
weather. app.  I personally, never use containers and access this information 
all the time.  
You just slide your finger down the screen til you hear the weather announced 
by days rather than hours. Scroll through this and then you will reach all the 
extra information like uv index, wind speed pressure visibility and so on. Its 
pretty easy, but it is a slightly longer process than it used to be in previous 
versions of ios. You used to be able to touch the botum of the screen where it 
names your selected city and then scroll up and the information was right 
there, but now if you try this you end up on the weather by days portion of the 
app and must scroll back down again.  

> On Oct 5, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> I can get Siri to give me the barometric pressure by verbally asking, but 
> doesn't say if the pressure is rising or falling.  I've been looking for 
> something with a little more pressure information and someone suggested Dark 
> Sky, but I understand it will be going away in 2023.  I found an old post 
> from Richard which mentions pressure and some other items like moon phase 
> that I'm interested in being on the native weather app.
> 
> Apparently having containers on the rotor allows more information to be heard 
> on the screen than I'm getting.  Containers were new to me and I sort of 
> understand them now,but I'm not finding them on the rotor for the screen that 
> lists some of today's weather 10 day forecast etc. I've got Characters; 
> Words; Headings and Speaking Rate on the rotor
> 
> Could someone please tell me how to add containers to the rotor so I can get 
> this additional weather information.
> 
> I'm running IOS 15.6.1 on an iPhone SE 2020.
> 
> I'd be very grateful for any help.
> 
> Margaret
> 
>> On 10/8/2021 5:20 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Kay,
>> When I use containers in the native weather app, it jumps from the current 
>> conditions, to Today's forecast as in Partly cloudy conditions from 4 pm-6pm 
>> with sunny conditions expected at 6pm.
>> The next flick down gets me "now, partly cloudy 58 degrees."
>> The next flick down gets to the ten day forecast.  Next is air quality, 
>> Temperature, UV index, sunset, Wind, rainfall, feels like, humidity, 
>> visibility Pressure, Then it seems to circle back to the 10 day forecast.
>> From the point where it says Now, partly cloudy 58 degrees, if I right 
>> flick, then I get the hours through tomorrow and I then bump into the 10 day 
>> forecast.
>> If I right flick from the 10 day forecast, I get each day's forecast, Today, 
>> Saturday, Sunday, etc.
>>  I think that is everything that is on the screen.
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 1:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> By Apple weather, do you mean the native weather app?  In the native weather
>> app, when you go to containers, it takes you to hourly information and then
>> to updates.  Unfortunately, it skips the daily forecast.  This is
>> interesting though and I will keep trying containers to see what it might do
>> to make navigation easier.
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
>> Bob Proctor
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Weather.
>> That should help. I just about make D on rotor, but I'll see what I can do,
>> thanks.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:19 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the
>> rotor feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You
>> also see containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main
>> page content, or footer content.
>> In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10
>> day forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you
>> switch the containers option you can flick down to move down the application
>> via containers and once you get to the container you

RE: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

2022-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hello Keith,

I use a VoIP phone app called 3CX and when I first started using it a couple of 
years ago the dialpad was inaccessible, it would just say "button" for every 
number. In this case turning on screen recognition was a perfect solution as 
all the numbers and buttons like Call were read and I could use it.

I also have come across a few apps where a few screens with information were 
displayed after installing the app and before you got to a "Got It" or "I 
Agree" button. Unfortunately I can't remember the last one where I couldn't 
read this text but with screen recognition turned on I could.

It is not something which you most likely need a lot, but it is a good tool to 
have available.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

hi,
Can some who use this feature productively please explain best use scenarios?
Thanks in advance. Keith USA



On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read 
stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it 
in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.
Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better 
attempts at a feature.



Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com




On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of 
apps.  It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings.

But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off!  LOL  
LOL



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM
Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up

First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about 
until iOS 15.

To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.
If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings.

I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it 
disappeared from Quick Settings.
When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone 
before it showed up again in quick Settings.  Not sure why, but that is what I 
did.

My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings.  
There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings 
instead of in the Rotor.

Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. 
 It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about 
bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you 
wanted to jump by headings, etc.

You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it 
helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and 
double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default 
to on.

HTH,
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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