RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would wait to replace your Playbase until next year as there are rumours 
Sonos may release a new flag ship soundbar.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as one of the 

RE: Blocking an area code or codes from texting on the phone

[Dennis Long]

I don't think this is possible on iOS.  Years ago it was possible on Android 
but that lovely app is no longer available oh Extreme Call blocker was the 
bomb.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 4:25 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Blocking an area code or codes from texting on the phone

Just recently, I have started receiving an annoying number of texts from 
unwanted businesses all from the 317 area code. I cannot find if there is a way 
to block any text coming from that area code. It’s annoying. And it’s the big 
offender. Is there a way to simply tell your phone that you don’t want ever to 
see texts from a given area code or area codes?


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Re: Mail with the Mac

[Debra Turner]

When you get the message that mail doesn’t have any windows, use command and 
the number 0.
Debra

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I’m a Mac user myself and would love to be on a Mac email list as well. Try 
> command option escape key to force quit and then reopen the mail app.
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> 
>> Having a problem with mail on my Mac.  I’m still learning the Mac.  Assuming 
>> some of you are using a Mac with voice over.  BTW, if there’s Mac list that 
>> would be more appropriate for this question, let me know.
>> Sometimes my mail app will become unusable and says,  “mail has no windows”. 
>>  Most of the time, if I close voice over and restart it it seems to come 
>> back.  Any thoughts on what that problem might be?  
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Re: Mail with the Mac

[Wendy Lin]

Hello,
I’m a Mac user myself and would love to be on a Mac email list as well. Try 
command option escape key to force quit and then reopen the mail app.

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Having a problem with mail on my Mac.  I’m still learning the Mac.  Assuming 
> some of you are using a Mac with voice over.  BTW, if there’s Mac list that 
> would be more appropriate for this question, let me know.
> Sometimes my mail app will become unusable and says,  “mail has no windows”.  
> Most of the time, if I close voice over and restart it it seems to come back. 
>  Any thoughts on what that problem might be?  
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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

[chrisjudge1967]

I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as one of the Sonos devices rather than into a  tv and thence 
>> to a soundbar?
>>
>> I am trying to create a TV sound receiver for a small bedroom and don't want 
>> a  full sized TV screen as I can't see it anyway.
>>
>> I am suspicious that the Apple TV box will complain because it can't see a 
>> display device..
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> --

Blocking an area code or codes from texting on the phone

[Mary Otten]

Just recently, I have started receiving an annoying number of texts from 
unwanted businesses all from the 317 area code. I cannot find if there is a way 
to block any text coming from that area code. It’s annoying. And it’s the big 
offender. Is there a way to simply tell your phone that you don’t want ever to 
see texts from a given area code or area codes?


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Silencing calls on the watch?

[Mary Otten]

I have my iPhone set to silence all unknown callers, i.e., people not in my 
contacts. It works very well. Unfortunately, sometimes calls will come through 
on the watch even though they’re silenced on the phone. I can’t find a separate 
setting to turn it off for the watch, and I shouldn’t think it would need to be 
turned off separately. What am I missing?

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RE: fixing a compass heading

[Carolyn]

I like Compass to run, because if I vere, I can tell by what the phone is 
saying. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: fixing a compass heading

Richard, have you tried this? It says: To lock your current direction, tap the 
compass dial. A red band appears when you’re off course.

I assume with Voiceover you have to double tap and if that works, will there be 
verbal and/or haptic feedback since a red band won't do most of us much good.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turnser
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: fixing a compass heading

 

 

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/compass-iph1ac0b663/iosHere is an 
article from Apple support. After you read this, I suspect you will need to 
contact Apple directly to see if there is an option to do what you want using 
VoiceOver.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Nov 21, 2022, at 7:53 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

hi,
I want to say fix my heading to go to south and have the phone keep me 
on track, how can I do this? I want to use the built-in compass app but I am 
open to other suggestions. when I open the built-in compass app I can point and 
get compass directions but I don't seem to be able to do anything else at all.
Thanks for any help, Sandy and Z

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RE: fixing a compass heading

[Richard Turner]

There in lies the reason I said she would need to contact Apple Accessibility.  
I have not tried it, and have no need to do so.

 

I figured the information would direct her where she needs to go for more help.

 

Having to hold the phone flat while using the compass kind of is a deal-breaker 
in my opinion whether or not there is verbal feedback, but sorting that out is 
above my pay grade, .

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: fixing a compass heading

 

Richard, have you tried this? It says: To lock your current direction, tap the 
compass dial. A red band appears when you’re off course.

I assume with Voiceover you have to double tap and if that works, will there be 
verbal and/or haptic feedback since a red band won't do most of us much good.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turnser
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: fixing a compass heading

 

 

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/compass-iph1ac0b663/iosHere is an 
article from Apple support. After you read this, I suspect you will need to 
contact Apple directly to see if there is an option to do what you want using 
VoiceOver.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Nov 21, 2022, at 7:53 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

hi,
I want to say fix my heading to go to south and have the phone keep me on 
track, how can I do this? I want to use the built-in compass app but I am open 
to other suggestions. when I open the built-in compass app I can point and get 
compass directions but I don't seem to be able to do anything else at all.
Thanks for any help, Sandy and Z

Sent from The dark side of the moon

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RE: Mail with the Mac

[Fazil M.]

When it says no windows open, Command-n would open a new message windows but I 
am not sure whether you can send a new message only by doing this or you can 
reads messages too.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 6:58 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Mail with the Mac

Having a problem with mail on my Mac.  I’m still learning the Mac.  Assuming 
some of you are using a Mac with voice over.  BTW, if there’s Mac list that 
would be more appropriate for this question, let me know.
Sometimes my mail app will become unusable and says,  “mail has no windows”.  
Most of the time, if I close voice over and restart it it seems to come back.  
Any thoughts on what that problem might be?  

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RE: app switcher on apple tv

[Debbie Downey]

Thank you Ed.

 

I also had a problem with closing the apps in TVOS 16 and the hints that were 
given didn’t work; there is no action menu in the rotor for that to work and 
that is what was suggested.

 

Debbie

 

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Worrell
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 10:08 AM
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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: app switcher on apple tv

 

Hello,

 

It depends on what remote you’re using. If it’s the old school remote or the 
new Siri Remote, you’ll have to triple click the Up button to close the first 
app and then you can click the up button twice on each app after that to close. 
If you’re using the original Siri Remote, you’ll have to swipe up twice on the 
track pad. This will close the applications.

 

I hope this helps,

 

Ed Worrell

 





On Nov 19, 2022, at 7:52 AM, mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> > mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

All:

Justed updated apple tv to 16. App switcher won’t close apps. Is it just me? 
LOL.

 

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RE: fixing a compass heading

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Richard, have you tried this? It says: To lock your current direction, tap the 
compass dial. A red band appears when you’re off course.
I assume with Voiceover you have to double tap and if that works, will there be 
verbal and/or haptic feedback since a red band won't do most of us much good.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turnser
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 8:04 AM
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https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/compass-iph1ac0b663/iosHere is an 
article from Apple support. After you read this, I suspect you will need to 
contact Apple directly to see if there is an option to do what you want using 
VoiceOver.



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On Nov 21, 2022, at 7:53 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
hi,
I want to say fix my heading to go to south and have the phone keep me on 
track, how can I do this? I want to use the built-in compass app but I am open 
to other suggestions. when I open the built-in compass app I can point and get 
compass directions but I don't seem to be able to do anything else at all.
Thanks for any help, Sandy and Z

Sent from The dark side of the moon

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Re: Mail with the Mac

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi, Tom!
I don’t know exactly what the problem could be, but I think I have had that 
problem as well. What I normally do when that happens is to close the Mail app 
and re-open it. If you’d like, you can reply to me off list and maybe we can 
troubleshoot together? Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

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> Having a problem with mail on my Mac.  I’m still learning the Mac.  Assuming 
> some of you are using a Mac with voice over.  BTW, if there’s Mac list that 
> would be more appropriate for this question, let me know.
> Sometimes my mail app will become unusable and says,  “mail has no windows”.  
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>  Any thoughts on what that problem might be?  
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Re: fixing a compass heading

[Richard Turner]

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/compass-iph1ac0b663/iosHere is an 
article from Apple support. After you read this, I suspect you will need to 
contact Apple directly to see if there is an option to do what you want using 
VoiceOver.




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> On Nov 21, 2022, at 7:53 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> I want to say fix my heading to go to south and have the phone keep me on 
> track, how can I do this? I want to use the built-in compass app but I am 
> open to other suggestions. when I open the built-in compass app I can point 
> and get compass directions but I don't seem to be able to do anything else at 
> all.
> Thanks for any help, Sandy and Z
> 
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
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Re: fixing a compass heading

[Dan]

  
  
Sandie,


Have you tried the ?Blind Compass app?  It
makes tones to indicate the direction.  If you start out on a
tone and you veer from that directions it would change the
tone.  It isn't super accurate but it might be sufficient for
your needs.  Check it out.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 11/21/2022 10:53 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins'
  via VIPhone wrote:


  hi,
I want to say fix my heading to go to south and have the phone keep me on track, how can I do this? I want to use the built-in compass app but I am open to other suggestions. when I open the built-in compass app I can point and get compass directions but I don't seem to be able to do anything else at all.
Thanks for any help, Sandy and Z

Sent from The dark side of the moon



  




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fixing a compass heading

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
I want to say fix my heading to go to south and have the phone keep me on 
track, how can I do this? I want to use the built-in compass app but I am open 
to other suggestions. when I open the built-in compass app I can point and get 
compass directions but I don't seem to be able to do anything else at all.
Thanks for any help, Sandy and Z

Sent from The dark side of the moon

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Re: app switcher on apple tv

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

It depends on what remote you’re using. If it’s the old school remote or the 
new Siri Remote, you’ll have to triple click the Up button to close the first 
app and then you can click the up button twice on each app after that to close. 
If you’re using the original Siri Remote, you’ll have to swipe up twice on the 
track pad. This will close the applications.

I hope this helps,

Ed Worrell
 

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> Justed updated apple tv to 16. App switcher won’t close apps. Is it just me? 
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Mail with the Mac

[Tom Rash]

Having a problem with mail on my Mac.  I’m still learning the Mac.  Assuming 
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RE: Can You Replicate These Bugs in iOS 16?

[davycuppens]

I hope that the bug not showing notifications on the lock screen will be fixed 
on ios16.2. 

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard Weitzel
Verzonden: zondag 20 november 2022 21:33
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Can You Replicate These Bugs in iOS 16?

 

Just saying it has not yet been fixed in 16.2 public beta 3, but I assume there 
will still be at least 2 or most likely 3 more public beta releases before 16.2 
is released which is expected the week of December 12 so still lots of chances 
for them to get it fixed. Anyways, for me it still works I would say 8 out of 
10 times so I left the preview on because it is typically very apparent if the 
wrong content is read in which case I can simply open the email to read it, but 
in most cases it's still useful. I still use dictation all the time although it 
makes lots of mistakes, but when everything is said and one I still find it 
easier and quicker to use it even though I may have to correct some stuff.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Can You Replicate These Bugs in iOS 16?

 

That is sad news indeed.

I’ve turned off previewing lines because of this bug.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Can You Replicate These Bugs in iOS 16?

 

Hi Richard, as of iOS 16.2 Beta 3 this reading of incorrect text in email 
preview is still present.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Can You Replicate These Bugs in iOS 16?

 

The first item is a known issue. Apple is aware of this and hopes to have it 
resolved in the next release. 

Like Alan, I don't do the other things you mention; but I've seen the heading 
issue in other places at times.

If you have not, report these to accessibil...@apple.com 
 

 

 

 

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On Nov 18, 2022, at 9:52 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Joe,

I and others are definitely replicating your first item regarding the native 
Mail app's incorrect Voiceover preview of a message with focus. I'm not really 
doing the other items you mentioned so cannot comment on them.

I've been meaning to report the Mail preview bug to Apple Accessibility so 
thanks for the reminder.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Can You Replicate These Bugs in iOS 16?

Hi, are you seeing these bugs on your end?

1. As you’re swiping through emails on the native Mail app, Voiceover will read 
the correct sender and subject line, but the message preview is completely 
different from the actual email. The problem is inconsistent but presents 
itself across multiple messages in the chosen inbox. The problem exists across 
all email accounts being used. In fact, the inaccurate message summaries 
sometimes pull from completely different email accounts.

2. If you tap Add contact when sending an email or text message, Voiceover 
refuses to navigate by heading. True, you can use the search function as 
opposed to navigating the length of your contacts, but navigating by headers is 
useful when forgetting the exact spelling of an uncommon contact's name. 
Voiceover simply continues to say "no headings."

3. Voiceover is jumping to the bottom of the screen when attempting to navigate 
longer emails. You have to swipe down with three fingers to scroll further down 
in the message and then back track to try to read the portions of the email 
voiceover skipped.

I keep hoping the issues will be fixed with subsequent iOS 16 updates, but 
alas, no luck so far. Before reporting to Apple, is anyone else experiencing 
these glitches?

Thank you in advance for any feedback.

Best,

Joe


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