Re: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[Lelia Struve]

Hi all, a question about the Alexa enabled thermostats.   Do they all have a 
way not to be used with either Alexa or the internet?   Or for example, does 
the amazon one have a Braille overlay like the microwave does?  Thanks

Lelia 

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> On Dec 26, 2022, at 7:05 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yes. It works with the Alexa app. No need for the pricy thermostats. This 
> one works great.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 7:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?
> 
> Hello Sarai,
> 
> This is most interesting.  So, the model is called the Amazon Basic Smart 
> Thermostat?  The price is definitely right.  I will look it up.
> 
> Thank you, Sarai.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?
> 
> I have the amazon basics smart Thermostat. Cost $60 and works great.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Katrina Anderson
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 6:52 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
> functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect 
> Comfort (TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had this 
> thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be 
> accessed via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy 
> as I recall.
> 
> The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
> voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out 
> about the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the 
> device), so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all 
> with the website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website 
> though as the TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does a 
> great job with the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the 
> temperature, etc.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Katrina 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy 
> a new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old 
> model is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible 
> thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?
> 
> I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models 
> but I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any 
> experience with Nest / Alexa compatibility?  
> 
> Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on 
> the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the 
> device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me; 
> maybe.
> 
> The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with 
> Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party app, 
> is I can avoid doing so.
> 
> I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Is it safe to remove phone from list

[M. Taylor]

Hello Max,

Ah!  I see.

In such an instance, then I would call Apple and report the device as having 
been stolen.  They will place it on a special list that will prevent the device 
from being reactivated.  Do not remove the device from your account until you 
speak to Someone at Apple who will advise you on how best to proceed.

I am sorry that her phone was stolen;  What a terrible thing to happen.

Should you decide to contact Apple and report the phone as having been stolen, 
please let us know your experience with Apple on this so that others who may 
have a similar incident will no how best to proceed.

Mark

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Agent086b
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Subject: Re: Is it safe to remove phone from list

Sorry I was not clear. We have never got the phone back. I left it to erase if 
the tried to connect to a network.
Max.
Max.
> On 27 Dec 2022, at 10:45, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> To be honest, I do not know why you would want to remove your wife's phone 
> from your account unless, of course, you want to add it to her account.  
> 
> If you remove her phone from your iCloud account, the phone will still have 
> the 6-digit unlock code on the device, itself.
> 
> What the message is indicating is that, if not attached to your iCloud 
> account, then if someone knows the 6-digit unlock code, then they could add 
> it to their iCloud account; which would be the natural scenario were the 
> phone sold or stolen.
> 
> So, ideally, you will want to remove the phone from your iCloud account and 
> then register it with another iCloud account as soon as possible.
> 
> Mark
> 
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> Agent086b
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 3:35 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Is it safe to remove phone from list
> 
> Hi, earlier this year my wife had her iPhone stolen. 
> I went into find my and set her phone to erase. It already had a 6 digit lock 
> code . This was around April May this year. I thought I would remove from my 
> iCloud account. When I think of doing I get a notification saying if I do 
> this the phone can be activated by somebody else. If I do delete it will the 
> lock code still be active?
> Thanks for any help on this one.
> Max.
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RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Yes. It works with the Alexa app. No need for the pricy thermostats. This one 
works great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Sarai,

This is most interesting.  So, the model is called the Amazon Basic Smart 
Thermostat?  The price is definitely right.  I will look it up.

Thank you, Sarai.

Mark

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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

I have the amazon basics smart Thermostat. Cost $60 and works great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina 
Anderson
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 6:52 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect Comfort 
(TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had this 
thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be accessed 
via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy as I recall.

The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out about 
the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the device), 
so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all with the 
website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website though as the 
TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does a great job with 
the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the temperature, etc.

HTH

Katrina 

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Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:01 PM
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Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy a 
new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old model 
is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible 
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models but 
I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any experience 
with Nest / Alexa compatibility?  

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on 
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the 
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me; maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with 
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party app, 
is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

Mark


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RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sarai,

This is most interesting.  So, the model is called the Amazon Basic Smart 
Thermostat?  The price is definitely right.  I will look it up.

Thank you, Sarai.

Mark

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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

I have the amazon basics smart Thermostat. Cost $60 and works great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina 
Anderson
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 6:52 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect Comfort 
(TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had this 
thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be accessed 
via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy as I recall.

The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out about 
the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the device), 
so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all with the 
website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website though as the 
TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does a great job with 
the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the temperature, etc.

HTH

Katrina 

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Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy a 
new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old model 
is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible 
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models but 
I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any experience 
with Nest / Alexa compatibility?  

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on 
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the 
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me; maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with 
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party app, 
is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

Mark


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RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andy,

I saw the Ecobee brand, online today, but got so confused because they have so 
very many models (smile).  I am really interested in Ecobee so am so glad you 
confirmed that they are Amazon Alexa compatible.  

Mark

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The Ecobee smart thermostat works with Alexa.

Andy

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To: ; 
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?


Hi Mark,

I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect 
Comfort (TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had 
this thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be 
accessed via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy 
as I recall.

The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out 
about the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the 
device), so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all 
with the website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website 
though as the TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does 
a great job with the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the 
temperature, etc.

HTH

Katrina

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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:01 PM
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Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy
a new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old
model is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models
but I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any
experience with Nest / Alexa compatibility?

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me;
maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party
app, is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

Mark


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RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Katrina,

Thank you so much for confirming that the Honeywell app, for iOS, is VoiceOver 
compatible and that the Honeywell devices can be managed by Amazon Alexa.  This 
is great info.

Mark

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To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect Comfort 
(TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had this 
thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be accessed 
via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy as I recall.

The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out about 
the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the device), 
so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all with the 
website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website though as the 
TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does a great job with 
the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the temperature, etc.

HTH

Katrina 

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Taylor
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy a 
new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old model 
is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible 
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models but 
I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any experience 
with Nest / Alexa compatibility?  

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on 
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the 
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me; maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with 
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party app, 
is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

Mark


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RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[sarai.bucciarelli]

I have the amazon basics smart Thermostat. Cost $60 and works great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Katrina 
Anderson
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 6:52 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hi Mark,

I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect Comfort 
(TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had this 
thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be accessed 
via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy as I recall.

The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out about 
the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the device), 
so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all with the 
website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website though as the 
TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does a great job with 
the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the temperature, etc.

HTH

Katrina 

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Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy a 
new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old model 
is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible 
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models but 
I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any experience 
with Nest / Alexa compatibility?  

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on 
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the 
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me; maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with 
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party app, 
is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

Mark


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Re: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[Andy Baracco]

The Ecobee smart thermostat works with Alexa.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Katrina Anderson" 

To: ; 
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?


Hi Mark,

I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect 
Comfort (TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had 
this thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be 
accessed via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy 
as I recall.


The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out 
about the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the 
device), so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all 
with the website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website 
though as the TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does 
a great job with the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the 
temperature, etc.


HTH

Katrina

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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy
a new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old
model is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models
but I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any
experience with Nest / Alexa compatibility?

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me;
maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party
app, is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

Mark


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RE: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[Katrina Anderson]

Hi Mark,

I have a Honeywell thermostat, which I access via Alexa to perform basic 
functions.  Yes, I had to register with Honeywell and/or Total Connect Comfort 
(TCC), but I don't recall the process being difficult.  I've had this 
thermostat for several years, and only recently discovered it could be accessed 
via Alexa.  The process of connecting Alexa to the device was easy as I recall.

The thermostat can be accessed via the TCC app, which is very accessible via 
voiceover.  When I first got the thermostat years ago, before I found out about 
the app, JAWS had trouble accessing all features (e.g. programming the device), 
so I relied on sighted help.  However, JAWS had no problem at all with the 
website when I tried a year or so ago.  Rarely go to the website though as the 
TCC app is great for programming, etc.  And, again Alexa does a great job with 
the basics like ID of indoor temperature, changing the temperature, etc.

HTH

Katrina 

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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy
a new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old
model is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models
but I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any
experience with Nest / Alexa compatibility?  

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me;
maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party
app, is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

Mark


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Re: Is it safe to remove phone from list

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Don't remove it from the account. If you do whoever has it now will be
able to use it, or at least the logic board from it (locked phones are
often parted out).

On 12/26/22, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> To be honest, I do not know why you would want to remove your wife's phone
> from your account unless, of course, you want to add it to her account.
>
> If you remove her phone from your iCloud account, the phone will still have
> the 6-digit unlock code on the device, itself.
>
> What the message is indicating is that, if not attached to your iCloud
> account, then if someone knows the 6-digit unlock code, then they could add
> it to their iCloud account; which would be the natural scenario were the
> phone sold or stolen.
>
> So, ideally, you will want to remove the phone from your iCloud account and
> then register it with another iCloud account as soon as possible.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Agent086b
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 3:35 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Is it safe to remove phone from list
>
> Hi, earlier this year my wife had her iPhone stolen.
> I went into find my and set her phone to erase. It already had a 6 digit
> lock code . This was around April May this year. I thought I would remove
> from my iCloud account. When I think of doing I get a notification saying if
> I do this the phone can be activated by somebody else. If I do delete it
> will the lock code still be active?
> Thanks for any help on this one.
> Max.
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RE: Is it safe to remove phone from list

[M. Taylor]

Hello,

To be honest, I do not know why you would want to remove your wife's phone from 
your account unless, of course, you want to add it to her account.  

If you remove her phone from your iCloud account, the phone will still have the 
6-digit unlock code on the device, itself.

What the message is indicating is that, if not attached to your iCloud account, 
then if someone knows the 6-digit unlock code, then they could add it to their 
iCloud account; which would be the natural scenario were the phone sold or 
stolen.

So, ideally, you will want to remove the phone from your iCloud account and 
then register it with another iCloud account as soon as possible.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 3:35 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Is it safe to remove phone from list

Hi, earlier this year my wife had her iPhone stolen. 
I went into find my and set her phone to erase. It already had a 6 digit lock 
code . This was around April May this year. I thought I would remove from my 
iCloud account. When I think of doing I get a notification saying if I do this 
the phone can be activated by somebody else. If I do delete it will the lock 
code still be active?
Thanks for any help on this one.
Max.

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Is it safe to remove phone from list

[Agent086b]

Hi, earlier this year my wife had her iPhone stolen. 
I went into find my and set her phone to erase. It already had a 6 digit lock 
code . This was around April May this year. I thought I would remove from my 
iCloud account. When I think of doing I get a notification saying if I do this 
the phone can be activated by somebody else. If I do delete it will the lock 
code still be active?
Thanks for any help on this one.
Max.

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RE: iOS / iPad OS Unlock Privacy for Low Vision VoiceOver Users

[M. Taylor]

Hello Malcolm and thank you for your kind words.

Your current method of entering digits is not a bad idea.

I hope more than a few of us will contact Apple about this privacy option that 
would be a great addition to the VoiceOver privacy feature-set.

As for the difference between telephone keypads and calculator keypads?  That, 
my friend, is a long story and has more to do with the history of technology 
than anything else.

There are a lot of weird things in life:  for example why do we refer to 
insurance that is for use when one dies as life insurance? Rather than death 
insurance?  (smile).  I do not want to get off-topic but could not resist (big 
smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS / iPad OS Unlock Privacy for Low Vision VoiceOver Users

Hello Mark,

Glad to read you’re getting along so well with your new iPhone.

I suppose one could temporarily turn off speech and rely on VoiceOver’s clicks 
as guidance.  What I do is to swipe around a bit rather than landing on the 
digits directly so the casual listener does not necessarily know which digits 
were entered.

I think a privacy option could be applied to any input field designated as a 
secure one too for passwords and the like.

One thing that has intrigued me over the years is why on a telephone keypad 1, 
2, and three are above 4, 5, and six whereas on a calculator and tills they are 
below?

Thanks to all list members for your contributions this year and to our Mark for 
moderating the group.  A little early but all the best to you all for 2023.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Dec 2022, at 21:49, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> One thing that I have come to enjoy about all of my Android devices is 
> that, if Talk Back is enabled at startup, when entering the device 
> unlock code, one can have Talk Back say "dot" instead of saying the 
> actual number or letter being entered on the device.  This is 
> extremely convenient and private for low vision users who need a 
> screen reader but have enough residual vision to be able to enter a 
> passcode when in the company of others without having others hear the actual 
> passcode.
> 
> Is there such a feature for iOS and/or iPad OS?  
> 
> Again, just so you understand, on my beloved Samsung Galaxy S10, when 
> starting up the device, if I have headphones attached, when entering 
> the passcode, Talkback will announce the character being entered. 
> However, I have it set so that if headphones are not connected, then 
> Talkback merely says "dot" for each character being entered.
> 
> With Face ID, given that one may be required to enter the unlock code 
> more than one time after device startup, it would be nice to have such 
> a privacy feature for VoiceOver.
> 
> All replies appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: iOS / iPad OS Unlock Privacy for Low Vision VoiceOver Users

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Mark,

Glad to read you’re getting along so well with your new iPhone.

I suppose one could temporarily turn off speech and rely on VoiceOver’s clicks 
as guidance.  What I do is to swipe around a bit rather than landing on the 
digits directly so the casual listener does not necessarily know which digits 
were entered.

I think a privacy option could be applied to any input field designated as a 
secure one too for passwords and the like.

One thing that has intrigued me over the years is why on a telephone keypad 1, 
2, and three are above 4, 5, and six whereas on a calculator and tills they are 
below?

Thanks to all list members for your contributions this year and to our Mark for 
moderating the group.  A little early but all the best to you all for 2023.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Dec 2022, at 21:49, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> One thing that I have come to enjoy about all of my Android devices is that,
> if Talk Back is enabled at startup, when entering the device unlock code,
> one can have Talk Back say "dot" instead of saying the actual number or
> letter being entered on the device.  This is extremely convenient and
> private for low vision users who need a screen reader but have enough
> residual vision to be able to enter a passcode when in the company of others
> without having others hear the actual passcode.
> 
> Is there such a feature for iOS and/or iPad OS?  
> 
> Again, just so you understand, on my beloved Samsung Galaxy S10, when
> starting up the device, if I have headphones attached, when entering the
> passcode, Talkback will announce the character being entered. However, I
> have it set so that if headphones are not connected, then Talkback merely
> says "dot" for each character being entered.
> 
> With Face ID, given that one may be required to enter the unlock code more
> than one time after device startup, it would be nice to have such a privacy
> feature for VoiceOver.
> 
> All replies appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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An Alexa Compatible Thermostat, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I know that I have asked this question before but, now that I must buy
a new thermostat for my home, within the next week or so, as my 32 year old
model is starting to fail on a virtually daily basis, what Alexa compatible
thermostat do you either recommend and / or are currently using?

I am aware of the Nest brand models; I thought they were Google-only models
but I think they also can work with Alexa, right?  Does anyone have any
experience with Nest / Alexa compatibility?  

Also, I know that Honeywell makes Alexa models but, from what I have read on
the web, today, one must setup an online account with Honeywell before the
device can be used with Alexa.  That sounds like a lot of trouble to me;
maybe.

The only thing I know for certain is that I want a model that will work with
Amazon Alexa, out of the box, because I do not want to use a third-party
app, is I can avoid doing so.

I have come to trust the Alexa app for iOS and iPad OS.

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iOS / iPad OS Unlock Privacy for Low Vision VoiceOver Users

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

One thing that I have come to enjoy about all of my Android devices is that,
if Talk Back is enabled at startup, when entering the device unlock code,
one can have Talk Back say "dot" instead of saying the actual number or
letter being entered on the device.  This is extremely convenient and
private for low vision users who need a screen reader but have enough
residual vision to be able to enter a passcode when in the company of others
without having others hear the actual passcode.

Is there such a feature for iOS and/or iPad OS?  

Again, just so you understand, on my beloved Samsung Galaxy S10, when
starting up the device, if I have headphones attached, when entering the
passcode, Talkback will announce the character being entered. However, I
have it set so that if headphones are not connected, then Talkback merely
says "dot" for each character being entered.

With Face ID, given that one may be required to enter the unlock code more
than one time after device startup, it would be nice to have such a privacy
feature for VoiceOver.

All replies appreciated.

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RE: The New Apple TV

[M. Taylor]

Hello Patti,

I have not done any research on the latest model of the Apple TV but I suspect 
that the difference in the size of the port, located  on the bottom of the Siri 
remote is because it is a USBC port and not a Lightening port.

Apple, slowly but surely is switching from Lightening to USBC because USBC is 
more compatible on a global stage.

You will have to purchase a new cable in order to charge your new Siri remote.

While I applaud Apple's adoption of a more universal standard, given my, 
already sizable investment in the Apple Orchard, switching from Lightening to 
USBC will be a bit costly.

Fortunately for me, as I use an Android phone, I already own a few USBC 
adaptors and cables.

As for how Apple packages the Apple TV?  You are not missing anything.  That is 
just the way it is.

Mark

-Original Message-
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Johnson
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The New Apple TV

Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to help me 
wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote is not the same 
as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, so I can't use my 
phone charger to charge it up.

I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is literally 
glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would they do that?

Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need to 
know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the older model?

This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming that is 
the siri button?

What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Patti

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The New Apple TV

[Patti Johnson]

Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to 
help me wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote 
is not the same as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, 
so I can't use my phone charger to charge it up.


I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is 
literally glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would 
they do that?


Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need 
to know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the 
older model?


This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming 
that is the siri button?


What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Patti

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Voice Dream products on sale until January 1

[Richard Turner]

Note from Winston Chen:

 

To welcome the new year, Voice Dream is offering a sale on our iOS apps until 
January 1, 2023. Reader 

  for iOS, normally $24.99, is now available for $14.99. Both Scanner 

  and Writer 

 , normally $9.99 each, are now $4.99. Please share this news with anyone who 
might benefit from these award-winning apps.

In addition, Reader for Macs 

  is available for a free 7-day trial. This app is especially useful for power 
users, as it has a fully native user interface that allows for faster content 
loading and library organization. It also allows users to listen to documents 
and web pages in the same environment as their other work, and everything is 
synced with the iOS Reader.

Lastly, Voice Dream has started publishing a monthly newsletter with product 
updates and helpful tips for getting the most out of the apps. Past newsletters 
can be found on our blog 

 .

Here are the links in this email in case you want to copy and paste them:

*   Reader for iOS: https://apps.apple.com/app/id496177674
*   Scanner: https://apps.apple.com/app/id1446737725
*   Writer: https://apps.apple.com/app/id920583100
*   Reader for Mac: https://apps.apple.com/app/id972112040
*   Newsletters: https://www.voicedream.com/blog/

Wishing you a happy new year,

Winston.

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Re: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

[Michael Irons]

Hello everyone I got the iPhone SE 20 because I was not willing to mess around 
with Face ID and possibly having to wear a mask. I didn’t think I would be able 
to set up Face ID where it would work. I was born blind from birth and 
literally have not seen a thing in my life. I have lots of difficulty 
understanding what things really look like. I would say if no one leave me they 
might as well come and beat me up. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2022, at 12:32 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I think it is fair to say that no one was a bigger critic of Face ID than I.
> 
> However, I must admit that using Face ID on iPhone 14 has been much, much
> better than my experience than on iPhone 11. 
> 
> I cannot articulate how or why this is so but there is definitely a
> difference in how the systems feels between the two devices.
> 
> The funny thing is, two nights ago, when I went back to my beloved 8 Plus
> for a few minutes to check on an app, I found myself wanting to use Face ID
> gestures more than my beloved Touch ID.  It took me more than a few minutes
> to figure out why some of the gestures were not working on my beloved 8
> Plus. When I realized that Touch ID was the method of choice on the old
> phone I couldn't stop laughing at how readily the brain can adapt to new
> techniques.
> 
> To those using Touch ID, I say keep doing so for as long as you can.
> However I will add that on iPhone 14, at least, Face ID is not bad, not bad
> at all.  (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

[Carolyn]

LOL, Mark, interesting about new tricks. Good that facial ID is good for you 
now, because I do not think it is going away ever. 

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M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 1:32 AM
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Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on Face ID via iPhone 14 with iOS 16.2: Not bad; not bad at all

Hello Everyone,

I think it is fair to say that no one was a bigger critic of Face ID than I.

However, I must admit that using Face ID on iPhone 14 has been much, much 
better than my experience than on iPhone 11. 

I cannot articulate how or why this is so but there is definitely a difference 
in how the systems feels between the two devices.

The funny thing is, two nights ago, when I went back to my beloved 8 Plus for a 
few minutes to check on an app, I found myself wanting to use Face ID gestures 
more than my beloved Touch ID.  It took me more than a few minutes to figure 
out why some of the gestures were not working on my beloved 8 Plus. When I 
realized that Touch ID was the method of choice on the old phone I couldn't 
stop laughing at how readily the brain can adapt to new techniques.

To those using Touch ID, I say keep doing so for as long as you can.
However I will add that on iPhone 14, at least, Face ID is not bad, not bad at 
all.  (smile).

Mark


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RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

I got it to work, thanks.

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Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

It gets VoiceOver focus as soon as you enter the App Library. You should just 
be able to double tap and start typing the name of the app you want to search 
for as soon as you get into the App Library with that last three finger swipe 
right. I reported an issue to Apple recently, but you can't get there with a 
two finger flick up or by a four finger tap at the top of the screen. Can you 
get there by exploring the top of the screen? 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
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Fioravanti, Jr.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

Hi:

I'm not seeing the search field at the top of the screen. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

There are several ways to do this, but what I do is to go to the App Library. 
You can get there by performing a three finger right from the last home page. 
Now you can flick around all of your installed apps until you find the app 
you're looking for. You can also perform a three finger up to sort your apps 
alphabetically or use the search field at the top of the screen.

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Good morning:

How do I get to the find button on the home screen so I can locate an App?

Thanks. 

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RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

I cannot.

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Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

It gets VoiceOver focus as soon as you enter the App Library. You should just 
be able to double tap and start typing the name of the app you want to search 
for as soon as you get into the App Library with that last three finger swipe 
right. I reported an issue to Apple recently, but you can't get there with a 
two finger flick up or by a four finger tap at the top of the screen. Can you 
get there by exploring the top of the screen? 

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Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

Hi:

I'm not seeing the search field at the top of the screen. 

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There are several ways to do this, but what I do is to go to the App Library. 
You can get there by performing a three finger right from the last home page. 
Now you can flick around all of your installed apps until you find the app 
you're looking for. You can also perform a three finger up to sort your apps 
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Good morning:

How do I get to the find button on the home screen so I can locate an App?

Thanks. 

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RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

[Christopher Chaltain]

It gets VoiceOver focus as soon as you enter the App Library. You should just 
be able to double tap and start typing the name of the app you want to search 
for as soon as you get into the App Library with that last three finger swipe 
right. I reported an issue to Apple recently, but you can't get there with a 
two finger flick up or by a four finger tap at the top of the screen. Can you 
get there by exploring the top of the screen? 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

Hi:

I'm not seeing the search field at the top of the screen. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 07:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

There are several ways to do this, but what I do is to go to the App Library. 
You can get there by performing a three finger right from the last home page. 
Now you can flick around all of your installed apps until you find the app 
you're looking for. You can also perform a three finger up to sort your apps 
alphabetically or use the search field at the top of the screen.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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Good morning:

How do I get to the find button on the home screen so I can locate an App?

Thanks. 

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RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Hi:

I'm not seeing the search field at the top of the screen. 

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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 07:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

There are several ways to do this, but what I do is to go to the App Library. 
You can get there by performing a three finger right from the last home page. 
Now you can flick around all of your installed apps until you find the app 
you're looking for. You can also perform a three finger up to sort your apps 
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Good morning:

How do I get to the find button on the home screen so I can locate an App?

Thanks. 

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RE: LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

[Christopher Chaltain]

There are several ways to do this, but what I do is to go to the App Library. 
You can get there by performing a three finger right from the last home page. 
Now you can flick around all of your installed apps until you find the app 
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Good morning:

How do I get to the find button on the home screen so I can locate an App?

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GPS App With Specific Details

[Kelly Ford]

Hi,

I use a range of GPS apps and web sites but have not found one that has some 
details I’d like to have at times. I am curious if anyone has found such.

For example, in planning a route, I’d like to schedule stops based on time 
travelled so if I’m going to be on a 20 hour drive I can say I want to stop 
every 8 hours and have the route planned based on those stops.

Most of these apps also give you the turns and connections you are going to 
make.  Sometimes they’ll tell you when you are crossing into another state. I’d 
like an option that would list some for of the cities I’m passing along the way.

Today I tend to get most of these details, especially from the second category, 
by using an app called Exit.  It lists the different exits along an interstate, 
what’s at the exit and typically gives you an idea of the city.

Kelly

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LOCATING AN APP ON THE IPHHONE SE

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Good morning:

How do I get to the find button on the home screen so I can locate an App?

Thanks. 

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How to delete an ap from my IPHONE

[Marilyn and Don Bilderback]

Go to any Home Screen, touch an app, flick up or down to edit Mode, and 
double-tap. Now find the app you want to move. Flick down to the Drag option 
and double-tap. Touch an app or folder that you want to be to its left or 
right. Then flick down until you get to the Drop option you want, and 
double-tap.

Edit mode will close a few seconds later, or you can do the Home gesture or 
press the Home button to exit.

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