Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Paula Pinder]

Hi allI think the Twitter app is great and really accessible.Best wishesPaulaOn 20 Jan 2023, at 16:11, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:




Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.


Feliciano
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On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:





If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about Elon
 and his stupidity. Get out!
Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)








Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.


On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.


The change comes a few days after developers 
began reporting their apps no longer worked.


The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not work.







Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps not working.
— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) 
January 17, 2023




However, as Engadget 
points out, it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.


Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is credited with coining the word "tweet."


As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps out of the App Store.




Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no path forward. Please read our blog for more information
https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) 
January 19, 2023




Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk

acquiring the company in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out sponsored posts and similar media.


In December, Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not
 clear when or if that will begin again.





Original Article: 
https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss


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RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Dennis Long]

What is a good channel to join?  If you join and don’t like the channel you 
join to can that be changed so your handle is at something else?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

The fact that Twitter is used by so many governments and organizations is kind 
of irrelevant, unless they’re contributing to Twitter’s bottom line. Elon Musk 
isn’t out to make Twitter a public square or a utility; he’s out to make it 
profitable and get a return on his investment. If governments and organizations 
bring in users which in turn bring in advertisers then this makes sense, but 
this hasn’t been the case for the last eight years.

 

I like Mastodon, but I don’t consider it a Twitter replacement. For me it feels 
more like something between Twitter and Facebook. I thin this might be in part 
due to the greater character limits on toots. I also find Mastodon to be more 
conversational than Twitter or even email, but this may just be the way I use 
Twitter. I also like the content warnings in Mastodon. It makes it easier to 
avoid inflammatory toots and gives me a chance to warn people about something I 
might be tooting. What I like most about Mastodon though, and the absolute #1 
reason I’m more active on Mastodon then I’ve been on either Facebook or Twitter 
is the plethora of accessible clients. I guess I have a pretty low bar when it 
comes to how much inconvenience I’ll put up with to participate in social 
media, and I find Mastodon clients set that bar lower than the alternatives.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

I’m riding the bus until the wheels fall off. So far, nothing as far as 
VoiceOver accessibility has broken or at least not that I’ve noticed. Of the 
main social media platforms, it slowly became one of the more accessible ones 
out there. Terrible that the accessibility team was let go along with a lot of 
other people, but the work they did to make Twitter very accessible is still 
there. 

Spring for the most part is still working. I’ve noticed that I can’t reply or 
retweet, but it’s easy enough to access the option to view a particular tweet 
in the native Twitter app and do whatever I want with that tweet from there. 
Once Spring’s gone, I guess I’ll have to see how I get along with the actual 
twitter appt itself. 

I mean, Mastodon’s “ok,” but it’s like night and day as far as engagement and 
level of information. Who knows, Musk may very well run twitter into bankruptcy 
as he’s hinted at already and sell it off to whoever and it’ll end up under new 
management and structure where we’ll be able to go through this all over again. 
It’s used by  so many. Not just people, but Governments, organizations and so 
on, it’s hard to see some other platform supplant or replicate what it does any 
time soon.

There will likely be a Twitter 3.0 or 4.0, but who knows what that’ll look like 
or who will run it. Might as well just go with the flow for now. 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

I’m pissed about this. Less than a year ago, I paid good money for Tweetbot, 
and now I’ve got no money, and no app!

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 20 Jan 2023, at 18:38, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does 
things the way they think people should do them, they even have released 
devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should 
use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that.

However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their 
shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as 
such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to 
accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on 
every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for 
"minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his 
vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe 
fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see.

Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to 
them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is do

RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Dennis Long]

I tweeted the idiot and told him to bring back the accessibility team and third 
party apps.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
Hudson
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 9:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

My sentiments exactly, I love the Twitter app, and will always continue to use 
it. And if I have a problem, I'll go to the knucklehead himself and ask him. 
Why did you have to get rid of your accessibility people I follow him directly.





On Jan 20, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

As long as official the official Twitter app remains accessible, I don't plan 
on going anywhere. Dont be so harsh! The app might have its issues (adds for 
instance), but it's accessible. Look at Facebook, with no 3rd party apps, and 
how many blind people are still using it.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 20 ene 2023, a la(s) 10:10 a.m., Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > escribió:

 Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company. 

Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.

 

Feliciano 

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On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!

Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com   (Amber 
Neely)





  

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began reporting 

  their apps no longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded 
to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's 
development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not 
work.

Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps 
not working.

— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023 
 

 

However, as Engadget points out, 

  it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
out of the App Store.

Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.

Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
path forward. Please read our blog for more information https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD

— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023 

 

 

Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies 
purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company 

  in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out 
sponsored posts and similar media.

In December, 

  Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled 
back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will begin again.



Original Article: 
https://appleinsider.com/ar

Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Lyne]

Tweeter was a real breath of fresh air during pandemic  

Lyne

> Le 20 janv. 2023 à 21:50, Joseph Hudson  a écrit :
> 
> My sentiments exactly, I love the Twitter app, and will always continue to 
> use it. And if I have a problem, I'll go to the knucklehead himself and ask 
> him. Why did you have to get rid of your accessibility people I follow him 
> directly.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> As long as official the official Twitter app remains accessible, I don't 
>> plan on going anywhere. Dont be so harsh! The app might have its issues 
>> (adds for instance), but it's accessible. Look at Facebook, with no 3rd 
>> party apps, and how many blind people are still using it.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 20 ene 2023, a la(s) 10:10 a.m., Feliciano Godoy 
>>>  escribió:
>>> 
>>>  Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their 
>>> accessibility team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to 
>>> be utilized doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
>>> Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates: 
>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 
 If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired 
 their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more 
 third-party clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, 
 now it’s not. It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
 Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
 AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)
 
 
 Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit 
 third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's 
 API.
 
 On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
 prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.
 
 The change comes a few days after developers began reporting their apps no 
 longer worked.
 
 The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been 
 expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the 
 company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some 
 apps might not work.
 
 Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some 
 apps not working.
 
 — Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023
 
 However, as Engadget points out, it does not align with the company's 
 history. Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the 
 social media platform's history.
 
 Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history 
 since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did 
 and is credited with coining the word "tweet."
 
 As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their 
 apps out of the App Store.
 
 Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull 
 Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
 
 Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with 
 no path forward. Please read our blog for more information 
 https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
 
 — Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023
 
 Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current 
 controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company in 
 October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
 advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered 
 out sponsored posts and similar media.
 
 In December, Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. 
 That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if 
 that will begin again.
 
 
 
 Original Article: 
 https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss
 
 
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Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Joseph Hudson]

My sentiments exactly, I love the Twitter app, and will always continue to use 
it. And if I have a problem, I'll go to the knucklehead himself and ask him. 
Why did you have to get rid of your accessibility people I follow him directly.

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> As long as official the official Twitter app remains accessible, I don't plan 
> on going anywhere. Dont be so harsh! The app might have its issues (adds for 
> instance), but it's accessible. Look at Facebook, with no 3rd party apps, and 
> how many blind people are still using it.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 20 ene 2023, a la(s) 10:10 a.m., Feliciano Godoy 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>>  Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their 
>> accessibility team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to 
>> be utilized doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
>> Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.
>> 
>> 
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates: 
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired 
>>> their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party 
>>> clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. 
>>> It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
>>> Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
>>> AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit 
>>> third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's 
>>> API.
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
>>> prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.
>>> 
>>> The change comes a few days after developers began reporting 
>>> 
>>>  their apps no longer worked.
>>> 
>>> The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been 
>>> expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the 
>>> company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some 
>>> apps might not work.
>>> 
>>> Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some 
>>> apps not working.
>>> 
>>> — Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, as Engadget points out, 
>>> 
>>>  it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
>>> central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.
>>> 
>>> Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history 
>>> since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did 
>>> and is credited with coining the word "tweet."
>>> 
>>> As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their 
>>> apps out of the App Store.
>>> 
>>> Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull 
>>> Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
>>> 
>>> Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
>>> path forward. Please read our blog for more information 
>>> https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
>>> 
>>> — Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current 
>>> controversies purportedly caused by Elon Muskacquiring the company 
>>> 
>>>  in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
>>> advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered 
>>> out sponsored posts and similar media.
>>> 
>>> In December, 
>>> 
>>>  Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was 
>>> rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will 
>>> begin again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Original Article: 
>>> https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Christopher Chaltain]

The fact that Twitter is used by so many governments and organizations is kind 
of irrelevant, unless they’re contributing to Twitter’s bottom line. Elon Musk 
isn’t out to make Twitter a public square or a utility; he’s out to make it 
profitable and get a return on his investment. If governments and organizations 
bring in users which in turn bring in advertisers then this makes sense, but 
this hasn’t been the case for the last eight years.

I like Mastodon, but I don’t consider it a Twitter replacement. For me it feels 
more like something between Twitter and Facebook. I thin this might be in part 
due to the greater character limits on toots. I also find Mastodon to be more 
conversational than Twitter or even email, but this may just be the way I use 
Twitter. I also like the content warnings in Mastodon. It makes it easier to 
avoid inflammatory toots and gives me a chance to warn people about something I 
might be tooting. What I like most about Mastodon though, and the absolute #1 
reason I’m more active on Mastodon then I’ve been on either Facebook or Twitter 
is the plethora of accessible clients. I guess I have a pretty low bar when it 
comes to how much inconvenience I’ll put up with to participate in social 
media, and I find Mastodon clients set that bar lower than the alternatives.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

I’m riding the bus until the wheels fall off. So far, nothing as far as 
VoiceOver accessibility has broken or at least not that I’ve noticed. Of the 
main social media platforms, it slowly became one of the more accessible ones 
out there. Terrible that the accessibility team was let go along with a lot of 
other people, but the work they did to make Twitter very accessible is still 
there.
Spring for the most part is still working. I’ve noticed that I can’t reply or 
retweet, but it’s easy enough to access the option to view a particular tweet 
in the native Twitter app and do whatever I want with that tweet from there. 
Once Spring’s gone, I guess I’ll have to see how I get along with the actual 
twitter appt itself.
I mean, Mastodon’s “ok,” but it’s like night and day as far as engagement and 
level of information. Who knows, Musk may very well run twitter into bankruptcy 
as he’s hinted at already and sell it off to whoever and it’ll end up under new 
management and structure where we’ll be able to go through this all over again. 
It’s used by  so many. Not just people, but Governments, organizations and so 
on, it’s hard to see some other platform supplant or replicate what it does any 
time soon.
There will likely be a Twitter 3.0 or 4.0, but who knows what that’ll look like 
or who will run it. Might as well just go with the flow for now.
Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

I’m pissed about this. Less than a year ago, I paid good money for Tweetbot, 
and now I’ve got no money, and no app!
Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Jan 2023, at 18:38, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does 
things the way they think people should do them, they even have released 
devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should 
use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that.
However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their 
shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as 
such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to 
accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on 
every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for 
"minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his 
vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe 
fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see.
Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to 
them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is doing has the right to 
tell people to get off Twitter and delete their accounts. I think most people 
agree that Mastodon is not yet a replacement for Twitter and once again we'll 
have to wait and see if it ever will be or if it will fade back into obscurity 
as a platform for a small number of users.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: SIRI

[Richard Turner]

Phones without home buttons use the side/power button for Siri, though you can 
also setup Hey Siri in settings.
So, hold the side button in and ask Siri a question or say, open the app store, 
etc.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Jan 20, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I have a iPhone X that I just got how do I use Siri on it and also, 
> how do I get to the App Store? Because not all my apps have downloaded thank 
> you very much, Becky.
> 
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RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[djrisavyjr]

My chicken nugget app signs into my twitter account just fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does 
things the way they think people should do them, they even have released 
devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should 
use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that.

However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their 
shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as 
such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to 
accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on 
every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for 
"minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his 
vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe 
fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see.

Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to 
them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is doing has the right to 
tell people to get off Twitter and delete their accounts. I think most people 
agree that Mastodon is not yet a replacement for Twitter and once again we'll 
have to wait and see if it ever will be or if it will fade back into obscurity 
as a platform for a small number of users.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company. 

Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.

 

Feliciano 

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On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!

Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com   (Amber 
Neely)

 

  

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began reporting 

  their apps no longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded 
to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's 
development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not 
work.

Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps 
not working.

— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023 
 

However, as Engadget points out, 

  it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
out of the App Store.

Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.

Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
path forward. Please read our blog for more information https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD

— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023 

Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Julie Dawson]

I would and thank you.
julie.magnoli...@gmail.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Long 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:12 PM
  Subject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps


  Please send a recording.

  My email is

  dennisl1...@gmail.com

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
  Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 6:30 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

   

  I deactivated my Twitter account a couple months ago.  I’m liking Mastodon.  
I did a presentation about it on my last Tech Time call.  Let me know if 
anybody would like a recording of it.

  Ryan Mann

  Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

  rmann0...@gmail.com

  386-383-5175

   





On Jan 19, 2023, at 11:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:



If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired 
their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party 
clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s 
all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!

Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)







Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit 
third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began reporting their apps no 
longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been 
expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the 
company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps 
might not work.

  Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some 
apps not working.

  — Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023

However, as Engadget points out, it does not align with the company's 
history. Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the 
social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history 
since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their 
apps out of the App Store.

  Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull 
Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.

  Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with 
no path forward. Please read our blog for more information 
https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD

  — Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023

Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current 
controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company in October 
2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving advertising 
revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out sponsored 
posts and similar media.

In December, Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. 
That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that 
will begin again.



Original Article: 
https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss

 

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Re: SIRI

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Hi all, I have a iPhone X that I just got how do I use Siri on it and also, how 
do I get to the App Store? Because not all my apps have downloaded thank you 
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Re: SIRI

[Vicki W.]

Did that and no go!


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  Subject: RE: SIRI


  If you haven’t, clear everything out of the app switcher and reboot the phone.

   

   

   

   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 1:23 PM
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  Subject: SIRI

   

  Hi,

   

  I was using my Iphone for something and my SIRI suddenly stopped working. 
Won't send messages or answer any questions at all. I tried using it on my mini 
IPad and it had stopped working as well. I hadn't done any updates on my IPad 
and only a security update on my older SE. Anyone else had this issue and any 
suggestions for a fix?

   

  Thanks.

   

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RE: SIRI

[Richard Turner]

If you haven’t, clear everything out of the app switcher and reboot the phone.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 1:23 PM
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Subject: SIRI

 

Hi,

 

I was using my Iphone for something and my SIRI suddenly stopped working. Won't 
send messages or answer any questions at all. I tried using it on my mini IPad 
and it had stopped working as well. I hadn't done any updates on my IPad and 
only a security update on my older SE. Anyone else had this issue and any 
suggestions for a fix?

 

Thanks.

 

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SIRI

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

I was using my Iphone for something and my SIRI suddenly stopped working. Won't 
send messages or answer any questions at all. I tried using it on my mini IPad 
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Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

[Mary Otten]

Yes, I know. But the frustrating thing is the regression. Things that they used 
to do well they don’t do well anymore. I’ve totally given up on much of 
anything to do with sports and Alexa. Useless. Not always, but most of the 
time. I can understand if they don’t know. But sometimes you might ask 
questions a and get a response that’s totally not related. That’s happening a 
lot more with Alexa these days, at least for me. I don’t get it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> That is why it is called "artificial intelligence."
> Much like artificial nails, hair, etc.  It might be a good imitation of 
> intelligence, but it is not intelligence.
> 
> To think people are considering trusting this technology to drive cars ... 
> not me!
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 
> 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I 
> can’t count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or 
> misses the question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound 
> between the older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one 
> according to a brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot better. 
> So if you like really good sound, wait for this to go down in price to 250 
> and pick up a pair. I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite 
> overblown. I get enough incorrect answers even from Google.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
>> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are 
>> far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind 
>> the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will 
>> help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and 
>> Amazon Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod 
>> because of its lack of abilities in these areas.
>> 
 On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>>> 
>>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 
>>> 5 Mac
>>> 
>>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities 
>>> and changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs 
>>> the original vs HomePod mini too.
>>> 
>>> Background
>>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>>> 
>>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>>> 
>>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>>> 
>>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
>>> 
>>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>>> 
>>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for 
>>> real-time tuning.
>>> 
>>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅ ✅ ❌
>>> Room sensing ✅ ✅ ❌
>>> Beamforming ✅ ✅ ❌
>>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅ ✅ ✅ Real-time tuning 
>>> Advanced computational audio with system sensing for real-time 
>>> tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning Computational audio 
>>> for real-time tuning Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅ ✅ ✅ Home theater with 
>>> Apple TV 4K ✅ ✅ ✅ but no Atmos Auto bass correction ✅ ✅ ❌
>>> 
>>> One impo

RE: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

[Richard Turner]

Mary,
That is why it is called "artificial intelligence."
Much like artificial nails, hair, etc.  It might be a good imitation of 
intelligence, but it is not intelligence.

To think people are considering trusting this technology to drive cars ... not 
me!

Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 
to 5 Mac

Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I can’t 
count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or misses the 
question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound between the 
older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one according to a 
brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot better. So if you like 
really good sound, wait for this to go down in price to 250 and pick up a pair. 
I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite overblown. I get enough 
incorrect answers even from Google.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are 
> far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind 
> the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will 
> help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and Amazon 
> Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod because of 
> its lack of abilities in these areas.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 
>> 5 Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Room sensing ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Beamforming ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅ ✅ ✅ Real-time tuning 
>> Advanced computational audio with system sensing for real-time 
>> tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning Computational audio 
>> for real-time tuning Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅ ✅ ✅ Home theater with 
>> Apple TV 4K ✅ ✅ ✅ but no Atmos Auto bass correction ✅ ✅ ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
>> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the 
>> HomePod mini.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
>> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>> HomeKit + Siri ✅ ✅ ✅
>> Thread/Matter ✅ ❌ ✅
>> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac 802.11n
>>

Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

[Mary Otten]

Well Siri may be behind, it strikes me that Alexa is getting stupider. I can’t 
count the number of things Alexa just plain either doesn’t know or misses the 
question entirely. And there’s totally no comparison and sound between the 
older HomePod and anything Amazon produces. And the new one according to a 
brief review I saw pre-release apparently sounds a lot better. So if you like 
really good sound, wait for this to go down in price to 250 and pick up a pair. 
I think the home assistant thing is frankly quite overblown. I get enough 
incorrect answers even from Google.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 4:41 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, 
> if you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are 
> far behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind 
> the other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will 
> help with that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and Amazon 
> Echo, it would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod because of 
> its lack of abilities in these areas.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
>> 
>> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
>> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
>> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
>> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
>> original vs HomePod mini too.
>> 
>> Background
>> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
>> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
>> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
>> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
>> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
>> 
>> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered 
>> features HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, 
>> Dolby Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
>> 
>> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
>> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
>> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
>> 
>> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
>> Audio tech and features
>> 
>> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different 
>> from the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart 
>> features, connectivity, and sensors).
>> 
>> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
>> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
>> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
>> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
>> 
>> 
>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Room sensing ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Beamforming ✅ ✅ ❌
>> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅ ✅ ✅
>> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
>> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning Computational audio 
>> for real-time tuning
>> Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅ ✅ ✅
>> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅ ✅ ✅ but no Atmos
>> Auto bass correction ✅ ✅ ❌
>> 
>> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
>> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
>> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
>> 
>> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
>> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
>> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the 
>> HomePod mini.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
>> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
>> 
>> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
>> HomeKit + Siri ✅ ✅ ✅
>> Thread/Matter ✅ ❌ ✅
>> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac 802.11n
>> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
>> U1 chip ✅ ❌ ✅
>> Apple Silicon S7 A8 S5
>> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring) ❌ ✅ (likely this spring)
>> Temperature and humidity sensor ✅ ❌ ✅
>> Intercom ✅ ✅ ✅
>> 
>> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the 
>> original but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch 
>> surface also appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
>> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
>> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to 
>> the switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.
>> 
>> Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however,

Re: A very short bit of humor

[Esther Levegnale]

wow! I never heard VoiceOver side before! That was certainly a riot! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:10 PM, tai.toma...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Sure thing. Text is below. The humorous part about it is that this particular 
> Voiceover voice actually sighs instead of voicing the word “sigh” or perhaps 
> an Emoji.
> Text:
> Hi everyone. As of now, I cannot locate where to make a change on my Echo. I 
> have researched on the Internet and the steps provided are not matching up. 
> [Siri sighs] I have red some on the Amazon Sidewalk and have a few concerns.  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
> Prater
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 2:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A very short bit of humor
>  
> Can we have the text of that please?
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 10:56 AM Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> If you haven’t run into it, here is a very short audio file of VoiceOver 
> reading part of an email preview using Siri voice 4.
> I cut out any identifying information from the email.
>  
> http://www.turner42.com/SiriSighing.mp3
>  
> Enjoy,
> Richard, USA.
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RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Dennis Long]

Please send a recording.

My email is

dennisl1...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

I deactivated my Twitter account a couple months ago.  I’m liking Mastodon.  I 
did a presentation about it on my last Tech Time call.  Let me know if anybody 
would like a recording of it.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com  

386-383-5175

 





On Jan 19, 2023, at 11:54 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!

Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com   (Amber 
Neely)





  

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began reporting 

  their apps no longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded 
to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's 
development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not 
work.

Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps 
not working.

— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023 
 

However, as Engadget points out, 

  it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
out of the App Store.

Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.

Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
path forward. Please read our blog for more information https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD

— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023 

 

Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies 
purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company 

  in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out 
sponsored posts and similar media.

In December, 

  Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled 
back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will begin again.



Original Article: 
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RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Dennis Long]

Do a google search you will find it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company. 

Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.

 

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On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!

Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com   (Amber 
Neely)





  

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began reporting 

  their apps no longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded 
to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's 
development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not 
work.

Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps 
not working.

— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023 
 

However, as Engadget points out, 

  it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
out of the App Store.

Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.

Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
path forward. Please read our blog for more information https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD

— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023 

 

Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies 
purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company 

  in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out 
sponsored posts and similar media.

In December, 

  Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled 
back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will begin again.



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https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss

 

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RE: Swimming with an Apple watch

[khevener]

This subject really intrigues me as I do like to swim laps along with various 
water aerobics stuff.  All I have is an Iphone se2.  Obviously I would need an 
apple watch.  What model could I get by with?  Also, where do you find the 
water workouts?  What kind of information do you get with the ap on your watch? 
 Could I do it by keeping my iphone on deck and looking at it when I finish 
each set?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 9:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Swimming with an Apple watch

 

I swim with my watch.  Yes, you will want to activate the pool swim workout. 
You have to choose the yardage of your pool, and once you do that, there will 
be a screen that describes what happens to the touchscreen and that it is 
disabled. Don’t do like I did and start swimming before you click OK on the 
screen, because the work out will not begin and the touchscreen will not be 
locked. Water lock is automatically turned on when you start this workout type. 
I’m running a new model, so I’m not sure about how to take the water lock off. 
It used to be that you would turn the crown to turn the water lock off after 
the work out. However, I think now you just hold down the crown and water lock 
will be turned off once you finish the work out. 

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.





On Jan 19, 2023, at 6:32 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



 

 

I seem to recall there are some folks who swim with their watch on this list.

If so, I have a couple questions because I am going to finally get an 
opportunity to swim several times a week.

I have the series 6, Wi-Fi model.  NO Cellular..

Do I need to do anything in particular to lock the watch or anything before 
getting in the water?

I checked out the workouts and the pool swimming looks like what I would use.  

Any tips from people who have done this would be appreciated.

I won’t have my phone on me, of course, will that matter?  

Thanks,

 

Richard, USA.

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How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

[M. Taylor]

How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud 
data
Wednesday, December 14, 2022 10:07 am 

By default, Apple’s iCloud secures your information by encrypting it when it’s 
in transit, storing it in an encrypted format, and securing your encryption 
keys in Apple data centers. In addition, many Apple services use end-to-end 
encryption; your information is encrypted using keys derived from your devices 
and your device passcode, which only you know. For the highest level of cloud 
data security, you can turn on Advanced Data Protection (iOS 16.2 or later 
required; available only in the U.S., currently).
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, not even Apple will not be access the 
data when it’s stored on the company’s servers.

Advanced Data Protection uses end-to-end encryption on more data categories 
such as the following:
• Device backup
• Messages backup
• iCloud Drive
• Notes
• Photos
• Reminders
• Safari bookmarks
• Siri Shortcuts
• Voice Memos
• Wallet passes

With Advanced Data Protection, your protected data can be decrypted only on 
your trusted devices, protecting your information even in the case of a data 
breach in the cloud. Not even Apple can access your information.

Before you turn on Advanced Data Protection, you’ll be guided to set up at 
least one alternative recovery method: a recovery contact or a recovery key. 
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, Apple doesn’t have the encryption keys 
needed to help you recover your end-to-end encrypted data. If you ever lose 
access to your account, you’ll need to use one of your account recovery methods 
— your device passcode or password, your recovery contact, or recovery key — to 
recover your iCloud data.
Your device passcode or password is the passcode on your iPhone or iPad, or the 
login password on your Mac that you set to protect your device and enable 
two-factor authentication. It’s also used to reset your Apple ID password and 
to recover your end-to-end encrypted data if you lose access to your account.
A recovery contact is a trusted friend or family member who can use their Apple 
device to help you regain access to your account and data. They won’t have any 
access to your account, only the ability to give you a code to help you recover 
your account. Learn more about recovery contacts.
A recovery key is a secret 28-character code that you can use, along with a 
trusted phone number and an Apple device, to recover your account and data. 
Learn more about recovery keys.

To turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, you need:
• An Apple ID with two-factor authentication.
• A passcode or password set for your device.
• At least one account recovery contact or recovery key. If you don’t already 
have one, you’ll be guided to set one up when you turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.
• Updated software on all of the devices where you’re signed in with your Apple 
ID:
iPhone with iOS 16.2
iPad with iPadOS 16.2
Mac with macOS 13.1
Apple Watch with watchOS 9.2
Apple TV with tvOS 16.2
HomePod with software version 16.2
Windows computer with iCloud for Windows 14.1
Managed Apple IDs and child accounts are not eligible for Advanced Data 
Protection.

How to turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud:
You can turn on Advanced Data Protection on an iPhone with iOS 16.2, iPad with 
iPad OS 16.2, or a Mac with macOS 13.1. Turning on Advanced Data Protection on 
one device enables it for your entire account and all your compatible devices.

On iPhone or iPad:
1. Open the Settings app.
2. Tap your name, then tap iCloud.
3. Scroll down, tap Advanced Data Protection, then tap Turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.
4. Follow the onscreen instructions to review your recovery methods and enable 
Advanced Data Protection.

On Mac:
1. Choose Apple menu  > System Settings.
2. Click your name, then click iCloud.
3. Click Advanced Data Protection, then click Turn On.
4. Follow the onscreen instructions to review your recovery methods and enable 
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RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I’m riding the bus until the wheels fall off. So far, nothing as far as 
VoiceOver accessibility has broken or at least not that I’ve noticed. Of the 
main social media platforms, it slowly became one of the more accessible ones 
out there. Terrible that the accessibility team was let go along with a lot of 
other people, but the work they did to make Twitter very accessible is still 
there. 

Spring for the most part is still working. I’ve noticed that I can’t reply or 
retweet, but it’s easy enough to access the option to view a particular tweet 
in the native Twitter app and do whatever I want with that tweet from there. 
Once Spring’s gone, I guess I’ll have to see how I get along with the actual 
twitter appt itself. 

I mean, Mastodon’s “ok,” but it’s like night and day as far as engagement and 
level of information. Who knows, Musk may very well run twitter into bankruptcy 
as he’s hinted at already and sell it off to whoever and it’ll end up under new 
management and structure where we’ll be able to go through this all over again. 
It’s used by  so many. Not just people, but Governments, organizations and so 
on, it’s hard to see some other platform supplant or replicate what it does any 
time soon.

There will likely be a Twitter 3.0 or 4.0, but who knows what that’ll look like 
or who will run it. Might as well just go with the flow for now. 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

I’m pissed about this. Less than a year ago, I paid good money for Tweetbot, 
and now I’ve got no money, and no app!

Sent from my iPhone





On 20 Jan 2023, at 18:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does 
things the way they think people should do them, they even have released 
devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should 
use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that.

However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their 
shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as 
such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to 
accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on 
every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for 
"minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his 
vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe 
fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see.

Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to 
them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is doing has the right to 
tell people to get off Twitter and delete their accounts. I think most people 
agree that Mastodon is not yet a replacement for Twitter and once again we'll 
have to wait and see if it ever will be or if it will fade back into obscurity 
as a platform for a small number of users.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

 

Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company. 

Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.

 

Feliciano 

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Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

 

Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v 

 

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d

Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Alex Stone]

I’m pissed about this. Less than a year ago, I paid good money for Tweetbot, 
and now I’ve got no money, and no app!

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Jan 2023, at 18:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does 
things the way they think people should do them, they even have released 
devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should 
use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that.
However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their 
shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as 
such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to 
accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on 
every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for 
"minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his 
vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe 
fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see.
Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to 
them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is doing has the right to 
tell people to get off Twitter and delete their accounts. I think most people 
agree that Mastodon is not yet a replacement for Twitter and once again we'll 
have to wait and see if it ever will be or if it will fade back into obscurity 
as a platform for a small number of users.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.

Feliciano
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do. -Steve Jobs


On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber 
Neely)


[https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/52478-104792-twitter-xl.jpg]

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began 
reporting

RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does 
things the way they think people should do them, they even have released 
devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should 
use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that.
However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their 
shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as 
such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to 
accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on 
every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for 
"minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his 
vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe 
fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see.
Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to 
them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is doing has the right to 
tell people to get off Twitter and delete their accounts. I think most people 
agree that Mastodon is not yet a replacement for Twitter and once again we'll 
have to wait and see if it ever will be or if it will fade back into obscurity 
as a platform for a small number of users.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.

Feliciano
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do. -Steve Jobs


On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber 
Neely)


[https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/52478-104792-twitter-xl.jpg]

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began 
reporting
 their apps no longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded 
to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's 
development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not 
work.

Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps 
not working.
— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 
2023

However, as Engadget points 
out,
 it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
out of the App Store.

Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.

Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
path forward. Please read our blog for more information https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 
2023

Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies 
purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the 
company
 in October 2022. This particular move is probably 

RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Christopher Chaltain]

Twitters success depends on revenue, which is directly tied to advertising. 
It’s only indirectly tied to usership, but I wonder if the lack of 3rd party 
clients will cut down on usership and tweets and start to impact advertising.

I don’t pay attention much to the Twitter discussions. I’ll keep on using it as 
long as it’s accessible and there’s content there worth seeing. I’ll stop using 
it when it makes sense, and I’ll use anything that replaces it, assuming it’s 
worthwhile. Nothing I say is going to change anything that happens with Twitter.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.

Feliciano
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LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
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do. -Steve Jobs


On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber 
Neely)


[https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/52478-104792-twitter-xl.jpg]

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began 
reporting
 their apps no longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded 
to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's 
development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not 
work.

Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps 
not working.
— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 
2023

However, as Engadget points 
out,
 it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
out of the App Store.

RE: Swimming with an Apple watch

[Richard Turner]

Thanks all,

That is what I needed.

Since some of what I will be doing is just water exercises, using the control 
center makes the most sense until I get to where I can do some lap swims.

I did read about being sure to dry off the watch and its speakers before 
unlocking it.

I just experimented and after engaging the water lock, you hold the crown and 
it says first “continue holding the crown” and then a little ticking/tapping 
and it says “unlocked, ejecting water.”

This is great to know.

Thanks,

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 11:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Swimming with an Apple watch

 

Richard, if you select pool swim it will automatically turn on waterlock at 
least it will if I remember correctly.

If you don't want to use a workpout then you can pull down for control centre 
and turn waterlock on there.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Swimming with an Apple watch

 

 

 

I seem to recall there are some folks who swim with their watch on this list.

If so, I have a couple questions because I am going to finally get an 
opportunity to swim several times a week.

I have the series 6, Wi-Fi model.  NO Cellular..

Do I need to do anything in particular to lock the watch or anything before 
getting in the water?

I checked out the workouts and the pool swimming looks like what I would use.  

Any tips from people who have done this would be appreciated.

I won’t have my phone on me, of course, will that matter?  

Thanks,

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: A very short bit of humor

[Richard Turner]

Right Sieghard, I have nothing Android.

 

I used Just Press Record so it was recording from within itself and that is not 
a great quality of recording.

There were no emojis, just the word sigh written as Sigh.  That was with a 
capital s.

 

If I open the email and read with VoiceOver using Siri Voice 4 it reads the 
word as just the word.

If I navigate word by word, it sighs rather than speak the word.

 

If I only use the preview before actually opening the email, it sighs rather 
than speak the word.

 

Someone else said other Siri voices did the same.

 

Here are the two sentences as they originally appeared:

 

As of now, I cannot locate where to make a change on my Echo.  I have 
researched on the internet and the steps provided are not matching up.  Sigh.

 

I have read some on the Amazon Sidewalk and 

have a few concerns.  

 

Clearly some folks have duplicated it and some haven’t.  Welcome to technology.

 

Later,

 

 

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 11:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A very short bit of humor

 

I don't think Richard has an Android phone so it must be Siri Voice 4 and in 
any case, he says the other Siri voices also do it.

The original text must include some emoji because if I copy that text and email 
it to myself Siri just reads it unless of course my Siri is not as good as 
Richards 😂

I also tried it by including the word "sigh" in parenthesis and in that case 
Siri will read it out as in:

 

Hi everyone. As of now, I cannot locate where to make a change on my Echo. I 
have researched on the Internet and the steps provided are not matching up sigh

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Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Kathy Brandt]

Twitter is still very accessible. Since  updates sometimes temporarily  broke 
access with the third-party  apps, I never used them. I like all the 
information I can get on the platform, particularly now with the censorship 
being lifted on various people. 

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 11:28 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I was never on Twitter to begin with. I am not a bird and I don’t tweet. I 
> won’t get on Twitter at any time in the future because it is probably not 
> accessible anymore.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 10:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired 
>> their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party 
>> clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. 
>> It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
>> Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
>> AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)
>> 
>> 
>> Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit 
>> third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's 
>> API.
>> 
>> On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
>> prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.
>> 
>> The change comes a few days after developers began reporting their apps no 
>> longer worked.
>> 
>> The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been 
>> expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the 
>> company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps 
>> might not work.
>> 
>> Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some 
>> apps not working.
>> 
>> — Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023
>> However, as Engadget points out, it does not align with the company's 
>> history. Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the 
>> social media platform's history.
>> 
>> Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
>> the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
>> credited with coining the word "tweet."
>> 
>> As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
>> out of the App Store.
>> 
>> Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
>> from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
>> 
>> Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
>> path forward. Please read our blog for more information 
>> https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
>> 
>> — Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023
>> Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current 
>> controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company in 
>> October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
>> advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered 
>> out sponsored posts and similar media.
>> 
>> In December, Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. 
>> That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that 
>> will begin again.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article: 
>> https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss
>> 
>> 
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Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Angie Nutt]

I’m not leaving Twitter while it’s accessible; I like the iPhone Twitter app 
well enough.

As to them firing the accessibility team: don’t know the original source but 
they fired half their employees I believe but don’t quote me on that. Then 
apparently when the new working conditions were announced more employees left.

All the best
Angie


> On 20 Jan 2023, at 16:10, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> 
> Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
> team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
> doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
> Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.
> 
> 
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>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired 
>> their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party 
>> clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. 
>> It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
>> Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
>> AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)
>> 
>>  
>> Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit 
>> third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's 
>> API.
>> 
>> On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
>> prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.
>> 
>> The change comes a few days after developers began reporting 
>> 
>>  their apps no longer worked.
>> 
>> The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been 
>> expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the 
>> company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps 
>> might not work.
>> 
>> Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some 
>> apps not working.
>> 
>> — Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023 
>> 
>> 
>> However, as Engadget points out, 
>> 
>>  it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
>> central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.
>> 
>> Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
>> the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
>> credited with coining the word "tweet."
>> 
>> As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
>> out of the App Store.
>> 
>> Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
>> from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
>> 
>> Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
>> path forward. Please read our blog for more information 
>> https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD — Twitterrific 
>> (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023 
>> 
>> 
>> Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current 
>> controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company 
>> 
>>  in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
>> advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered 
>> out sponsored posts and similar media.
>> 
>> In December, 
>> 
>>  Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was 
>> rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will 
>> begin again.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article: 
>> https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss
>>  
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Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Gerardo Corripio]

As long as official the official Twitter app remains accessible, I don't plan on going anywhere. Dont be so harsh! The app might have its issues (adds for instance), but it's accessible. Look at Facebook, with no 3rd party apps, and how many blind people are still using it.GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 20 ene 2023, a la(s) 10:10 a.m., Feliciano Godoy  escribió:




Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.


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On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:





If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about Elon
 and his stupidity. Get out!
Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)








Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.


On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.


The change comes a few days after developers 
began reporting their apps no longer worked.


The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not work.







Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps not working.
— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) 
January 17, 2023




However, as Engadget 
points out, it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.


Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is credited with coining the word "tweet."


As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps out of the App Store.




Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no path forward. Please read our blog for more information
https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) 
January 19, 2023




Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk

acquiring the company in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out sponsored posts and similar media.


In December, Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not
 clear when or if that will begin again.





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Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Michael Irons]

I was never on Twitter to begin with. I am not a bird and I don’t tweet. I 
won’t get on Twitter at any time in the future because it is probably not 
accessible anymore.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2023, at 10:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
> accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party 
> clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. 
> It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
> Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
> AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)
> 
> 
> Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit 
> third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's 
> API.
> 
> On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
> prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.
> 
> The change comes a few days after developers began reporting their apps no 
> longer worked.
> 
> The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been 
> expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the 
> company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps 
> might not work.
> 
> Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some 
> apps not working.
> 
> — Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023
> However, as Engadget points out, it does not align with the company's 
> history. Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the 
> social media platform's history.
> 
> Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
> the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
> credited with coining the word "tweet."
> 
> As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
> out of the App Store.
> 
> Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
> from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.
> 
> Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
> path forward. Please read our blog for more information 
> https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
> 
> — Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023
> Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current 
> controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company in 
> October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
> advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered 
> out sponsored posts and similar media.
> 
> In December, Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. 
> That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that 
> will begin again.
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rss
> 
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Re: Ember heating control

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

A family member has one of their mugs and the app to control it is
completely inaccessible. If their heating system uses the same app
it's going to be a non-starter.

On 1/20/23, Albert Brown  wrote:
> Hello,
> At the moment I am using the nest google thermostat for my oil boiler.
> It is not very accessible.
> Has anyone tried the ember heating control?
>
>
> ALBERT
>
> JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2023.2212.23
>
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS
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Ember heating control

[Albert Brown]

Hello,
At the moment I am using the nest google thermostat for my oil boiler.
It is not very accessible.
Has anyone tried the ember heating control?


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Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Feliciano Godoy]

Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility 
team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized 
doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company.
Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple.


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On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their 
accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. 
So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about 
Elon and his stupidity. Get out!
Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps
AppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)

[https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/52478-104792-twitter-xl.jpg]

Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party 
app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.

On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause 
prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.

The change comes a few days after developers began 
reporting
 their apps no longer worked.

The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded 
to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's 
development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not 
work.

Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps 
not working.

— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 
2023

However, as Engadget points 
out,
 it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been 
central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.

Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since 
the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is 
credited with coining the word "tweet."

As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps 
out of the App Store.

Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific 
from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.

Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no 
path forward. Please read our blog for more information https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD

— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 
2023

Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies 
purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the 
company
 in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving 
advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out 
sponsored posts and similar media.

In 
December,
 Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled 
back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will begin again.


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Re: Strange Siri behaviour?

[Angie Nutt]

Oh yes: once on my Apple Watch, though it might have picked up something 
leaking from some headphones which were connected to another device. Our Google 
Home does it, also Alexa, and when I started using Sonos Voice, the Sonos Move 
started playing music without prompting.

Some months ago I was reading an article from Sonos about how this stuff works 
and there was something about these gadgets pick up sub audible sounds; 
something like that anyway.

All the best
Angie


> On 19 Jan 2023, at 21:53, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Recently on my iPhone 12 Pro Max I have noticed something strange happening 
> with Siri.
> 
> I am alone in the room and the only sound is the TV which is in another room. 
>  I have Listen for hey Siri enabled and have done so for years without issue. 
>  Recently however, I have heard Siri say “Hello” and other such phrases 
> followed by the tone one gets when Siri is no longer listening, IE the second 
> of the two tones.
> 
> I have heard that the A device is often triggered by background sounds but 
> have never found this to be the case with Siri.
> 
> Has anyone had a similar experience?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac

[Mike Arrigo]

Apple has still not addressed the biggest issues with the home pod though, if 
you compare siri with Alexa and Google Assistant, Siri’s capabilities are far 
behind the other two. Also, the smart home device support is far behind the 
other two smart speaker eco systems. Granted, the matter support will help with 
that somewhat, still, while I already have a google home and Amazon Echo, it 
would be hard for me to suggest or recommend the home pod because of its lack 
of abilities in these areas.

> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 9 to 5 Mac, Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:16 PM
> 
> Here’s how HomePod 2 Compares to the Original and HomePod Mini, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> In a surprise launch, Apple revived its full-size HomePod with a 
> second-generation model. While the overall design and many of the features 
> remain the same as the discontinued original, there are new capabilities and 
> changes. Here’s our full HomePod comparison for a look at HomePod 2 vs the 
> original vs HomePod mini too.
> 
> Background
> Apple launched the original HomePod back in 2018 at a premium price above 
> competitors at $349. Just over a year later, Apple cut the price to $299. 
> Then the HomePod mini arrived in the fall of 2020 with a more 
> mass-market-focused $99 price before Apple abruptly discontinued the 
> full-size HomePod in March of 2021.
> 
> While many felt the original HomePod was priced too high, it offered features 
> HomePod mini doesn’t match like richer, louder sound, strong bass, Dolby 
> Atmos support, beamforming, and room sensing.
> 
> Now the full-size HomePod has sprung back to life with the second-gen model 
> arriving with Thread/Matter support, a temperature/humidity sensor, updated 
> Apple Silicon chips, and a very minor tweak to the design.
> 
> HomePod comparison: New vs original vs mini
> Audio tech and features
> 
> For the main audio features of the HomePod 2, there’s not much different from 
> the original HomePod (the majority of differences are with smart features, 
> connectivity, and sensors).
> 
> The only difference mentioned by Apple is the computational audio is now 
> “advanced” with system sensing for real-time tuning while the original 
> HomePod and HomePod mini have the original computational audio for real-time 
> tuning.
> 
> But it’s great to see Spatial Audio/Dolby Atmos is back with the HomePod 2 
> since the mini doesn’t offer that.
> 
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
> Spatial Audio Dolby Atmos ✅ ✅ ❌
> Room sensing ✅ ✅ ❌
> Beamforming ✅ ✅ ❌
> Stereo pairing (only w/ same speaker and gen) ✅ ✅ ✅
> Real-time tuning Advanced computational audio with system sensing for 
> real-time tuningComputational audio for real-time tuning Computational audio 
> for real-time tuning
> Multiroom AirPlay audio ✅ ✅ ✅
> Home theater with Apple TV 4K ✅ ✅ ✅ but no Atmos
> Auto bass correction ✅ ✅ ❌
> 
> One important caveat is that if you want to use HomePods in a stereo pair, 
> they’ll need to be the same type and generation.
> Smart home, sensors, connectivity
> 
> Here’s where HomePod 2 starts to stand out from the original. The new 
> full-size smart speaker gets Thread/Matter support, an S7 chip plus U1 for 
> improved iPhone handoffs, plus a temperature/humidity sensor like the HomePod 
> mini.
> 
> HomePod 2 and HomePod mini are also getting Sound Recognition like iPhone – 
> which is expected to arrive sometime this spring.
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
> HomeKit + Siri ✅ ✅ ✅
> Thread/Matter ✅ ❌ ✅
> WiFi 802.11n 802.11ac 802.11n
> Bluetooth 5.0 5.0 5.0
> U1 chip ✅ ❌ ✅
> Apple Silicon S7 A8 S5
> Sound recognition ✅ (likely this spring) ❌ ✅ (likely this spring)
> Temperature and humidity sensor ✅ ❌ ✅
> Intercom ✅ ✅ ✅
> 
> The touch panel on top of the HomePod 2 appears to be similar to the original 
> but is now slightly recessed like the HomePod mini. The touch surface also 
> appears to illuminate entirely like the mini.
> Strangely, Apple downgraded the WiFi chip from 802.11ac to 802.11n. Maybe 
> it’s thinking Thread will be carrying more weight and it could be tied to the 
> switch from A-series to S-series Apple Silicon.
> 
> Apple also skips the upgrade to Bluetooth 5.3 on the new HomePod – however, 
> that’s really just used for the setup, not music playback.
> 
> Notably, more new features are coming to all HomePods with the upcoming 16.3 
> release:
> Speakers and mics
> HomePod 2 internals via Apple 
> 
> There are some interesting tweaks when it comes to the speakers and mics. 
> First, Apple hints the high-excursion woofer is bigger. The new HomePod has a 
> 4-inch woofer while the size of the original wasn’t disclosed by Apple.
> 
> Other changes see the 7-array tweeter of the original simplified to 5 for 
> HomePod, and the far-field mics are also reduced from 6 to 4.
> 
> HomePod 2 HomePod 1 HomePod mini
> Woofer 4-inch high-excursion woofer High-excursion woofer ❌
> Speakers 5-array horn-loaded tweeters 7-array horn-loaded tweeters Full

Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

[Ryan Mann]

I deactivated my Twitter account a couple months ago.  I’m liking Mastodon.  I did a presentation about it on my last Tech Time call.  Let me know if anybody would like a recording of it.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Jan 19, 2023, at 11:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!Twitter officially kills off all third-party client appsAppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)


 




Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.


On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.


The change comes a few days after developers began reporting their apps no longer worked.


The "restrictions" section of Twitter's development agreement has been expanded to help "enforce its long-standing API rules," according to the company's development Twitter account. It noted that, as a result, some apps might not work.







Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps not working.
— Twitter Dev (@TwitterDev) January 17, 2023




However, as Engadget points out, it does not align with the company's history. Third-party apps have been central to Twitter use for most of the social media platform's history.


Twitterific, for example, has been a crucial part of Twitter's history since the beginning. Twitterific had a native iOS app before Twitter did and is credited with coining the word "tweet."


As a result of the API restriction, developers have begun pulling their apps out of the App Store.




Today marks the end of an era. Sadly, we've been forced to pull Twitterrific from both the iOS and Mac App Stores.Twitter's unexplained revocation of our API access has left the app with no path forward. Please read our blog for more information https://t.co/UZSdmqZtMD
— Twitterrific (@Twitterrific) January 19, 2023



Restricting API access is another incident in a string of current controversies purportedly caused by Elon Musk acquiring the company in October 2022. This particular move is probably focused on preserving advertising revenue for the company, as third-party clients often filtered out sponsored posts and similar media.


In December, Twitter began blocking user links to other social platforms. That was rolled back after user protest, and it's not clear when or if that will begin again.



Original Article: https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/01/19/twitter-officially-kills-off-all-third-party-client-apps?utm_medium=rssSent from my iPhone



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