Re: testin

['Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone]

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testin

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RE: Follow

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have no issues whatsoever with Facetime. Have you rebooted your device? This 
sounds like more of a connectivity issue, a restart of your phone would be the 
first step, if that doesn't help I woul d reboot my router. I assume you are on 
Wi-Fi when this happens? If you are using cellular data when you are getting 
disconnected from Facetime calls I would turn off the phone completely, then 
pop the SIM tray out a little, no need to remove it completely, push it closed 
again and start up your iPhone and see if that helps.
If you are still having issues I would go to Settings > General > Reset and 
reset network settings only. This will also reboot your phone and it will 
require you to enter your Wi-Fi password again. Also, if you phone is called 
something lik e "Adrian's iPhone", you have to go to Settings > General > About 
and rename your iPhone since resetting network settings changes the name of you 
rphone to just "iPhone".


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Subject: Follow

I reinstalled the face time app and when i placed a face time audio call it 
works for a minute then it doesn't. Has any one had that happen

Adrians ipad

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Activity in Apple Watch SE2?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I have a non-cellular Apple Watch SE2.

When I was in gym today, I saw 'Setup Activities' on the Watch-face of SE2
and when I double-tapped on it, I wasn't sure how to set activities up.

Any help is much appreciated.

One more thing, I am trying to find and download the manual of SE2 or any
podcast/tutorial from Voiceover perspective but no luck so far, any help
here would be duly appreciated too.

Thanks!

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Follow

['adrian Leong' via VIPhone]

I reinstalled the face time app and when i placed a face time audio call it 
works for a minute then it doesn't. Has any one had that happen

Adrians ipad

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RE: Directv Stream alternatives

[Peter Logan]

Youtubetv is a little cheaper at $64.99 .. and if you have TMobile, you can get 
it for $10/month off for at least the first year ..   In my opinion it works 
better on the ATV than Direct TV.  Also depending on your area, Spectrum has 
sever streaming packages that can end up around $50/month for about 15 cable 
channels and your locals ..  

 

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Subject: Directv Stream alternatives

 

Hi all:

I use Directv Stream with my Apple TV. Love the service.. hate the price tag. 
Price keeps going up constantly. I have the cheapest package and its now $70. 
Ridiculous.

So, Does anyone have another streaming service they like that is cheaper than 
$70 and works on Apple tv pretty easily?

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Directv Stream alternatives

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi all:

I use Directv Stream with my Apple TV. Love the service.. hate the price
tag. Price keeps going up constantly. I have the cheapest package and its
now $70. Ridiculous.

So, Does anyone have another streaming service they like that is cheaper
than $70 and works on Apple tv pretty easily?

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RE: screen curtain

[Dennis Long]

I agree

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
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Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
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Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain

[chrisjudge1967]

No, as previously mentioned it's a voice over function.

-Original Message-
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Sent: February 19, 2023 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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Re: Accessible crossword puzzle apps

[Keith Kramlinger]

hi,
I finally got in yesterday and was successfully able to enter my six words. 
Unfortunately I failed. Does the site tell you what the word was if you fail, 
are you only find out if you fail?
The trick for me was finding the enter key on the lower left corner of the 
screen.
Thanks. Keith


On Feb 19, 2023, at 10:00 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

 I’m talking about on the computer, with a physical keyboard. You can just 
type in the words using the keyboard and it’ll register.

On Feb 19, 2023, at 10:20 AM, Donna Casteen 
mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Brandon,

Are you referring to entering the letters with an on screen keyboard or a 
paired keyboard? If on screen, how do you get the keyboard to show up?

Donna


I can’t speak for the app, but on the website you can just type in the word, 
then press enter.

On Feb 18, 2023, at 11:51 PM, Donna Casteen 
mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Anna, in regards to the game Spelling Bee; When you swipe through the letters 
that are used to form the words, Do you have a image of the letter tile before 
the actual letter? Ex. Image A A, Image B B, etc another words it is like the 
letters are repeated twice. I've turned off describe images in the rotor. I 
have tried playing Spelling Bee from the New York Times app & website & the 
crosswords app, which is developed by New York Times & neither is accessible 
for me to play Spelling Bee. Tapping on the image letter or the actual letter 
does not select the letter. I'm thinking that I have an accessibility setting 
that is interfering with game play. Playing on an iPhone 11 with the latest IOS 
update.

Donna

Hi  Candy,

I play Wordle in the main New York Times app by choosing the Play tab, then the 
Play link for Wordle.

Best,
Anna


On Feb 18, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Candy Lowe 
mailto:candyrl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Anna, are you playing from the app which is called solve wordle or are you 
playing the daily word on the new york times website?  I am able to play the 
daily word, but, the app I downloaded called solve wrdl, I just can't figure it 
out.  It is totally different from the single word that i am able to play from 
the new york times website.  Thanks for any help.

Sent from my iPhone 13 pro


On Feb 18, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hello Candy,

I have been playing Wordle and the Spelling Bee from within the NYTimes app, 
and yes, they are accessible. I haven’t tried playing them from the crossword 
app.

Best,
Anna


On Feb 18, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Candy Lowe 
mailto:candyrl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Please excuse me if I am misunderstanding this thread. I downloaded the New 
York Times Wordell and spelling bee app. I am on able to make it work at all. 
Am I correct? In understanding that this particular app is accessible? If so, 
could someone please tell me how to use it?
Anna, I understood that you were unable to use the Crossword app, but I am 
thinking that one is different. I’ve played Wordle every day, but that is only 
the one word that is with the New York Times. Is this app accessible? Thanks 
for any help.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone 13 pro


On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi Wayne,

Yes, the keyboard is really oddly spaced. Too bad they didn’t use the one they 
use for Wordle. So whoever said the app was accessible, please tell us how you 
do it.

Cheers,
Anna


On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Merritt 
mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You made it further than me. While I could see the clue and after a time could 
enter the missing letters, I found the keyboard to be challenging at best. I 
was expecting a normally sized keyboard, but found that there were noticable 
gaps between each letter. This made using explore by touch to find the right 
letter to be quite taxing. I eventually figured out that if I found the right 
row, I could flick between the letters and double tap the one I wanted. I have 
since deleted the NY Times Crosswords app for these issues. I'm glad that 
others found the app to be accessible, but it wasn't for me.

Respectfully,

Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
Check out my GoodReads page:
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On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I tried to play the mini crossword in the New York Time Crosswords app, but I 
couldn’t quite make it work. When it opens, the Across clues are listed in a 
very accessible way, saying how many letters the word has and whether any 
letters are filled in. If I touch one (not double-tap but just touch), the 
letters I enter go into that clue. If I double-tap anywhere, a screen 
displaying the grid opens, and if I touch a square, I’m told which square it is 
and whether it’s blank or what letter it contains. Doing a scrub gesture 
returns me to the list of Across clues. So far, so good.

However, I can’t find a way to hear the Down clues with the same in

bug in ios 16.3.1 with VO crashing and rebooting randomly, there is a workaround

[davycuppens]

Dear users 

Please go to accessibility voiceover settings and put off the caption
pannel. Thse people using this pannel are affected with the bug. 
I did some research about captions a few months ago and it was set to on.
Now for me the bug has gone;
Davy 

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RE: screen curtain

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If VoiceOver is not running you cannot have Screen Curtain on.

Screen Curtain is only available while VoiceOver is active.

If you were able to enable Screen Curtain without VoiceOver you would be unable 
to use your device as you would have no feedback visual or audio.

You can however disable speech when VoiceOver is running, useful if you are a 
Braille user only.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

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Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


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Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

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Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain

[michv]

Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

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Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


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Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

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Bell
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


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Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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Re: screen curtain

[Lyne]

Hi Janet,
Probably more brightness... Settings, brightness, screen locked ...

Lyne

> Le 19 févr. 2023 à 08:42, Debby  a écrit :
> 
> please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen 
> curtain on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't 
> know if that makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger

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Re: Accessible crossword puzzle apps

[Brandon Olivares]

I’m talking about on the computer, with a physical keyboard. You can just type 
in the words using the keyboard and it’ll register.

> On Feb 19, 2023, at 10:20 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Brandon,
> 
> Are you referring to entering the letters with an on screen keyboard or a 
> paired keyboard? If on screen, how do you get the keyboard to show up?
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> I can’t speak for the app, but on the website you can just type in the 
>> word, then press enter.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2023, at 11:51 PM, Donna Casteen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anna, in regards to the game Spelling Bee; When you swipe through the 
>>> letters that are used to form the words, Do you have a image of the letter 
>>> tile before the actual letter? Ex. Image A A, Image B B, etc another words 
>>> it is like the letters are repeated twice. I've turned off describe images 
>>> in the rotor. I have tried playing Spelling Bee from the New York Times app 
>>> & website & the crosswords app, which is developed by New York Times & 
>>> neither is accessible for me to play Spelling Bee. Tapping on the image 
>>> letter or the actual letter does not select the letter. I'm thinking that I 
>>> have an accessibility setting that is interfering with game play. Playing 
>>> on an iPhone 11 with the latest IOS update. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
 
 Hi  Candy,
 
 I play Wordle in the main New York Times app by choosing the Play tab, 
 then the Play link for Wordle.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
> On Feb 18, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Candy Lowe  > wrote:
> 
> Anna, are you playing from the app which is called solve wordle or are 
> you playing the daily word on the new york times website?  I am able to 
> play the daily word, but, the app I downloaded called solve wrdl, I just 
> can't figure it out.  It is totally different from the single word that i 
> am able to play from the new york times website.  Thanks for any help.   
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 pro
>  
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Anna Dresner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Candy,
>> 
>> I have been playing Wordle and the Spelling Bee from within the NYTimes 
>> app, and yes, they are accessible. I haven’t tried playing them from the 
>> crossword app.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Candy Lowe >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please excuse me if I am misunderstanding this thread. I downloaded the 
>>> New York Times Wordell and spelling bee app. I am on able to make it 
>>> work at all. Am I correct? In understanding that this particular app is 
>>> accessible? If so, could someone please tell me how to use it?
>>> Anna, I understood that you were unable to use the Crossword app, but I 
>>> am thinking that one is different. I’ve played Wordle every day, but 
>>> that is only the one word that is with the New York Times. Is this app 
>>> accessible? Thanks for any help. 
>>> 
>>> Candy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 13 pro
>>>  
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Anna Dresner >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Wayne,
 
 Yes, the keyboard is really oddly spaced. Too bad they didn’t use the 
 one they use for Wordle. So whoever said the app was accessible, 
 please tell us how you do it.
 
 Cheers,
 Anna
 
 
> On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  > wrote:
> 
> You made it further than me. While I could see the clue and after a 
> time could enter the missing letters, I found the keyboard to be 
> challenging at best. I was expecting a normally sized keyboard, but 
> found that there were noticable gaps between each letter. This made 
> using explore by touch to find the right letter to be quite taxing. I 
> eventually figured out that if I found the right row, I could flick 
> between the letters and double tap the one I wanted. I have since 
> deleted the NY Times Crosswords app for these issues. I'm glad that 
> others found the app to be accessible, but it wasn't for me. 
> 
> Respectfully, 
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> Check out my GoodReads page:
> http://goodreads.com/waynesbooks 
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Anna Dresner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I tried to play the mini crossword in the New York Time Crosswords 
>> app, but I couldn’t quite make it work. When it opens, the Across 
>> clues are listed in

Re: Accessible crossword puzzle apps

[Donna Casteen]

Brandon,Are you referring to entering the letters with an on screen keyboard or a paired keyboard? If on screen, how do you get the keyboard to show up?DonnaI can’t speak for the app, but on the website you can just type in the word, then press enter.On Feb 18, 2023, at 11:51 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:Anna, in regards to the game Spelling Bee; When you swipe through the letters that are used to form the words, Do you have a image of the letter tile before the actual letter? Ex. Image A A, Image B B, etc another words it is like the letters are repeated twice. I've turned off describe images in the rotor. I have tried playing Spelling Bee from the New York Times app & website & the crosswords app, which is developed by New York Times & neither is accessible for me to play Spelling Bee. Tapping on the image letter or the actual letter does not select the letter. I'm thinking that I have an accessibility setting that is interfering with game play. Playing on an iPhone 11 with the latest IOS update. Donna        Hi  Candy,I play Wordle in the main New York Times app by choosing the Play tab, then the Play link for Wordle.Best,AnnaOn Feb 18, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:Anna, are you playing from the app which is called solve wordle or are you playing the daily word on the new york times website?  I am able to play the daily word, but, the app I downloaded called solve wrdl, I just can't figure it out.  It is totally different from the single word that i am able to play from the new york times website.  Thanks for any help.   Sent from my iPhone 13 pro On Feb 18, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hello Candy,I have been playing Wordle and the Spelling Bee from within the NYTimes app, and yes, they are accessible. I haven’t tried playing them from the crossword app.Best,AnnaOn Feb 18, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:Please excuse me if I am misunderstanding this thread. I downloaded the New York Times Wordell and spelling bee app. I am on able to make it work at all. Am I correct? In understanding that this particular app is accessible? If so, could someone please tell me how to use it?Anna, I understood that you were unable to use the Crossword app, but I am thinking that one is different. I’ve played Wordle every day, but that is only the one word that is with the New York Times. Is this app accessible? Thanks for any help. CandySent from my iPhone 13 pro On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi Wayne,Yes, the keyboard is really oddly spaced. Too bad they didn’t use the one they use for Wordle. So whoever said the app was accessible, please tell us how you do it.Cheers,AnnaOn Feb 18, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:You made it further than me. While I could see the clue and after a time could enter the missing letters, I found the keyboard to be challenging at best. I was expecting a normally sized keyboard, but found that there were noticable gaps between each letter. This made using explore by touch to find the right letter to be quite taxing. I eventually figured out that if I found the right row, I could flick between the letters and double tap the one I wanted. I have since deleted the NY Times Crosswords app for these issues. I'm glad that others found the app to be accessible, but it wasn't for me. Respectfully, Wayne MerrittSent from my iPhone 13 ProCheck out my GoodReads page:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooksOn Feb 18, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi everyone,I tried to play the mini crossword in the New York Time Crosswords app, but I couldn’t quite make it work. When it opens, the Across clues are listed in a very accessible way, saying how many letters the word has and whether any letters are filled in. If I touch one (not double-tap but just touch), the letters I enter go into that clue. If I double-tap anywhere, a screen displaying the grid opens, and if I touch a square, I’m told which square it is and whether it’s blank or what letter it contains. Doing a scrub gesture returns me to the list of Across clues. So far, so good.However, I can’t find a way to hear the Down clues with the same information. If I touch an Across clue and flick down, there’s a Reverse Direction option, but whether I simply touch that option or double-tap it, the clues don’t switch to the Down clues. The clue at the bottom of the screen, which is the one being edited does change to a Down clue, but it doesn’t tell you how many letters are in the word or whether anything is filled in. If I choose the option to bring up the list of clues, the clues do say if a letter is filled in, but not how many letters total there are or where the filled-in letter is. So it seems to be maddeningly close to accessible, but not quite. Am I missing something?Thanks,AnnaOn Feb 18, 2023, at 1:43 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:This o

Re: Accessible crossword puzzle apps

[alban hoxha]

W

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Anna 
Dresner 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 6:05:47 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Accessible crossword puzzle apps

Hi Donna,

I usually play on my iPad, but I have also played on the phone. Setting 
VoiceOver to skip all images results in each letter only being spoken once. The 
first letter you hear as you flick down is the required letter. Double-tapping 
enters the letter.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna


On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:51 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:

Anna, in regards to the game Spelling Bee; When you swipe through the letters 
that are used to form the words, Do you have a image of the letter tile before 
the actual letter? Ex. Image A A, Image B B, etc another words it is like the 
letters are repeated twice. I've turned off describe images in the rotor. I 
have tried playing Spelling Bee from the New York Times app & website & the 
crosswords app, which is developed by New York Times & neither is accessible 
for me to play Spelling Bee. Tapping on the image letter or the actual letter 
does not select the letter. I'm thinking that I have an accessibility setting 
that is interfering with game play. Playing on an iPhone 11 with the latest IOS 
update.

Donna

Hi  Candy,

I play Wordle in the main New York Times app by choosing the Play tab, then the 
Play link for Wordle.

Best,
Anna


On Feb 18, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:

Anna, are you playing from the app which is called solve wordle or are you 
playing the daily word on the new york times website?  I am able to play the 
daily word, but, the app I downloaded called solve wrdl, I just can't figure it 
out.  It is totally different from the single word that i am able to play from 
the new york times website.  Thanks for any help.

Sent from my iPhone 13 pro


On Feb 18, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hello Candy,

I have been playing Wordle and the Spelling Bee from within the NYTimes app, 
and yes, they are accessible. I haven’t tried playing them from the crossword 
app.

Best,
Anna


On Feb 18, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:

Please excuse me if I am misunderstanding this thread. I downloaded the New 
York Times Wordell and spelling bee app. I am on able to make it work at all. 
Am I correct? In understanding that this particular app is accessible? If so, 
could someone please tell me how to use it?
Anna, I understood that you were unable to use the Crossword app, but I am 
thinking that one is different. I’ve played Wordle every day, but that is only 
the one word that is with the New York Times. Is this app accessible? Thanks 
for any help.

Candy

Sent from my iPhone 13 pro


On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Wayne,

Yes, the keyboard is really oddly spaced. Too bad they didn’t use the one they 
use for Wordle. So whoever said the app was accessible, please tell us how you 
do it.

Cheers,
Anna


On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

You made it further than me. While I could see the clue and after a time could 
enter the missing letters, I found the keyboard to be challenging at best. I 
was expecting a normally sized keyboard, but found that there were noticable 
gaps between each letter. This made using explore by touch to find the right 
letter to be quite taxing. I eventually figured out that if I found the right 
row, I could flick between the letters and double tap the one I wanted. I have 
since deleted the NY Times Crosswords app for these issues. I'm glad that 
others found the app to be accessible, but it wasn't for me.

Respectfully,

Wayne Merritt
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On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I tried to play the mini crossword in the New York Time Crosswords app, but I 
couldn’t quite make it work. When it opens, the Across clues are listed in a 
very accessible way, saying how many letters the word has and whether any 
letters are filled in. If I touch one (not double-tap but just touch), the 
letters I enter go into that clue. If I double-tap anywhere, a screen 
displaying the grid opens, and if I touch a square, I’m told which square it is 
and whether it’s blank or what letter it contains. Doing a scrub gesture 
returns me to the list of Across clues. So far, so good.

However, I can’t find a way to hear the Down clues with the same information. 
If I touch an Across clue and flick down, there’s a Reverse Direction option, 
but whether I simply touch that option or double-tap it, the clues don’t switch 
to the Down clues. The clue at the bottom of the screen, which is the one being 
edited does change to a Down clue, but it doesn’t tell you how many letters are 
in the word or whether anything is filled in. If I choose the option to bring 
up the list of clues, the clues do say if a letter is filled in, but not how 
many letters total there are or wher

RE: screen curtain

[Debby]

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

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Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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screen curtain

[Janet Bell]

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen 
curtain on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I 
don't know if that makes a difference.  I told her to try the three 
finger triple tap but it didn't work.


one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger?

[Don ball]

Yes it does the lightning port is on the phone and is a bit smaller than the USB c port on the other end of the cable. You can use a lightning to USB  a witch is the big USB  port and will fit most of your old charging stuff, your older computer etc.  Your iPhone 8 cable should fit on your iPhone 12 with no problem and you can still find that old cable every where. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Fazil M.Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 12:07 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger? Thank you, Don.Again, sorry for my insufficient jargons,does iPhone12 have lightning port? Is lightning port the one that goes in the phone or in the charger? Thanks!From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don ballSent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 8:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger? As long as you have a lightning port on the apple end of the cable you can use either charger. I am sure you can find both chargers at your local Walmart. This is happening because The EU. Witch has a big market share in the world is standardizing the usb c port. So you can use either charger with two ports. You just have to decide if you want one with type a ports or type c ports witch is the new standard. As long is there is a lightning port on one end of the cable. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Fazil M.Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 10:39 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What Are the Cable-Ends Called That go in Charger? Hi, Group.I am ashamed of my scanty vocabulary.I have iPhone8 and 12. the cable-ends of these phones that go in charger are different from each-other.What Are these two ends called?The reason I am asking this is that I need a charger that has two ports that can accept iPhone12 and one port for iPhone8.What should I look for on Amazon or in any other store?Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB41591F14597DA3F2ED0557CAC9A79%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/12BC3F4E-3548-47DB-AAB3-68F2EDC0EF8E%40hxcore.ol.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB415991E8FD919FB4F2DA842BC9A79%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. 



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