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RE: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

[rick.alfaro]

Appreciate the suggestion but I did this as well but in my case, it made no 
difference.

 

---Warmest regards,

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  ---rick.alf...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

 

In trying to mess around with other voices, I also stopped and restarted 
VoiceOver, which definitely seemed to help with the sluggishness. Try this 
before doing anything more drastic.

 

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From: Christopher Chaltain 
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

 

Turns out I was using Samantha after all. I improved the sluggishness by doing 
a power off and restarting. I hope that helps others.

 

I now see that I can choose from all of the same voices I have on my phone. I 
don’t recall seeing this before. I’m now experimenting with the same voices I 
like on my phone.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

 

 

No issues with series 5.I say reset watch after iCloud back up.

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On Apr 4, 2023, at 7:36 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a 
series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using VO 
has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all of 
the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to reset 
it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade.

 

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Maddening Spech

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

 BS6 Mini and iPhone 11 Pro are talking too much.   Entering text in terminal 
mode results in extra or double words.   This also happens if the phone hears 
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RE: Headphones for use when navigating

[Christopher Chaltain]

Speech and sounds are very clear. You can crank the volume up, but you will get 
a tickle on your temples when you do this. It may also not be loud enough, 
depending on how loud the traffic noises are. It won't be as loud as you'll get 
with passive noise cancellation.

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-Original Message-
From: rhs via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Headphones for use when navigating

How clear is the speech using bone conduction?  How clear are sounds such as 
beeps or tones that provide audio feedback from an app?  Can you crank the 
volume up enough to hear over traffic sounds?

You have convinced me concerning the downside of transparent mode on headphones.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Headphones for use when navigating

For walking around, I prefer the bone conduction headphones like the OpenMove 
from Shokz or the Bose Frames. There's nothing in your ears at all. I like to 
use transparency mode when I'm around the house and still need to hear what's 
going on around me and where I want some better sound quality, such as watching 
a movie while I'm doing laundry or dishes or on my stationary bike. I still 
need to be able to hear my wife, dog, cat, ... I find the transparency mode, 
even though I can still hear what's going on around me, feels like my ears are 
stuffed up or I have water in my ears. It's like I can hear my footfalls.

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From: rhs via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 10:19 AM
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Subject: Headphones for use when navigating

Hi,

I have never used bone conduction headphones or ones like the Airpods that have 
a transparent mode.  What are the advantages of each type when using a GPS app 
to get around a city?  

Thanks.

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RE: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

[Dennis Long]

Just remove and dispose of them.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

 

Hi All,

 

I would like to thank every one for their input and opinions.  We did go with 
the eSIM cards and the transfer went relatively well.  Except for the lack of 
knowledge on the tech support's behalf.  This made things take a lot longer 
than necessary, but it's all over now.

 

Another question!  We're going to sell our SE2020's.  Since I've never done 
this before, do I sell the phones with the SIM cards left in them, or do I 
remove them and dispose of them?  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2023 9:31 AM

Subject: RE: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

 

It is only a matter of time until SIM trays and physical SIM cards disappear 
entirely and it can't be soon enough for me. As long as there is a mechanism in 
lace which allows for transferring eSIMs not just between iPhones but also 
between iPhones and Android phones there is really no good reason for SIM 
cards. They might be very small, but manufacturing them, distributing them and 
all that takes up resources, there is packaging and eventually Billions of them 
end up in our landfills and oceans.
between 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

I still much prefer a physical sim card, it’s much easier to transfer it 
between phones, especially if you use IOS and Android like I do. I think Apple 
removing the sim tray on the Iphone 14 was a mistake, that’s one reason I got 
the Iphone SE instead, I would 

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Mike B.   > wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  My wife and I we'll be receiving our new SE2022 iPhones today.  Which will 
> be better, sticking with the physical SIM Cards, or switching to the, eSIM 
> card?
>  If we do any traveling it'll be only here in the United States and our 
> carrier is Spectrum.  So, since our carrier is nationwide this shouldn't be 
> any problem.  I'm throwing thi information in because this could matter to 
> someone that travels out of the country.
>  All input is welcome.  Thanks much.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
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RE: Headphones for use when navigating

[rhs via VIPhone]

How clear is the speech using bone conduction?  How clear are sounds such as 
beeps or tones that provide audio feedback from an app?  Can you crank the 
volume up enough to hear over traffic sounds?

You have convinced me concerning the downside of transparent mode on headphones.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Headphones for use when navigating

For walking around, I prefer the bone conduction headphones like the OpenMove 
from Shokz or the Bose Frames. There's nothing in your ears at all. I like to 
use transparency mode when I'm around the house and still need to hear what's 
going on around me and where I want some better sound quality, such as watching 
a movie while I'm doing laundry or dishes or on my stationary bike. I still 
need to be able to hear my wife, dog, cat, ... I find the transparency mode, 
even though I can still hear what's going on around me, feels like my ears are 
stuffed up or I have water in my ears. It's like I can hear my footfalls.

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-Original Message-
From: rhs via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Headphones for use when navigating

Hi,

I have never used bone conduction headphones or ones like the Airpods that have 
a transparent mode.  What are the advantages of each type when using a GPS app 
to get around a city?  

Thanks.

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RE: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

[Christopher Chaltain]

In trying to mess around with other voices, I also stopped and restarted 
VoiceOver, which definitely seemed to help with the sluggishness. Try this 
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From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

Turns out I was using Samantha after all. I improved the sluggishness by doing 
a power off and restarting. I hope that helps others.

I now see that I can choose from all of the same voices I have on my phone. I 
don’t recall seeing this before. I’m now experimenting with the same voices I 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish


No issues with series 5.I say reset watch after iCloud back up.
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On Apr 4, 2023, at 7:36 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a 
series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using VO 
has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all of 
the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to reset 
it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade.

---Warmest regards,
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Maddening Speech When Entering Text

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Whenever I enter text in an edit box on my 11 pro from my Braille notetaker, it 
adds extraneous text, especially if my display is talking.  The result is 
gibberish.  Is there a fix?

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Re: Apple Music Classical

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I wasn't indicating it was right or wrong I was merely asking to gain a 
better understanding in case I'd missed something.


In my former set up with a pair of speakers oriented as you described I 
never had any issues with both speakers being connected with the voice 
assistant. It actually did remarkably well responding from the speaker 
to which I was closest or happened to be facing towards.



One can't learn if one doesn't ask.

As for the Hey sonos assistant I had gotten it to start radio stations 
in the past on a Sonos roam hence my surprise when it suddenly seemed 
less able to execute such functionality.


I hope that clarifies.

Robin


On 4/4/2023 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I never read anything from Sonos as to what their goal for the Sonos 
voice assistant is, but as far as I am concerned it does a very good 
job with actual Sonos functionality like grouping and ungrouping 
speakers, changing volume and so on and that is fine.


As for picking a speaker in a stereo set I think that is fine and when 
I recently did a new setup of a pair of Sonos One speakers which I 
moved from one room to another, I was also asked to pick a speaker for 
the voice assistant as well as for Alexa. I think it might really be a 
better way to go as it might be confusing if both microphones listen 
and if the speakers are only 6 or 8 feet apart which is pretty 
standard for a stereo pair then it is entirely enough if one speaker 
listens.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Robin Frost

*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 3:06 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued 
so will investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice 
assistant is woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive 
to requests in that regard.


I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding 
voice assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which 
speaker you want to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out 
after searching and reading documentation is if you run the setup 
wizard as it were a second time and pick a second speaker in a pair 
does it merely move the assistant from the first to the second speaker 
or can you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos Ones?


I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if 
anyone figures this out I'd love to know.


I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not 
Apple Classical is on there.


Take good care,

Robin

On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far
that it does not seem to work very well for asking it to play a
certain song, artist or album. The only think I really use it for
is to group or ungroup speakers because that works beautifully and
also changing volume and play/pause or skip/rewind is fine.

As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work
better. I have Apple Music set up as my default music service in
the Alexa app so that seems to be a better option when it come sto
requesting specific music.

*From:* 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 

*Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been
spoiled by the air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And
of course the voice control on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV
but I know someone who does use the AppleTV and Sonos throughout
her home and she is very happy with the results.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
 wrote:



Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music
Classical to Sonos as a perfectly acceptable solution at least
for now.

Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that
an Android version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in
the works, I am pretty sure it is just a matter of time until
it will be available natively from Sonos.

Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple
Music Classic app for the Apple TV and if so and if you have a
Sonos surround setup, you could then play it to Sonos from 
your Apple TV.

I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though
spacial music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing
it from the latest version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a
big difference in terms of audio quality. Therefore I would
imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music Classical
if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the
Sonos app.

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Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

[joseph hudson]

If the phones are no longer active and you factory reset the phones, I 
wouldn't think it would matter whether you did or not. More than likely, if you 
sell the phones, and if you were going to sell them to a kiosk, they will want 
the Sim cards removed. If you're selling them to an individual, I don't think 
it would matter whether you remove the Sim card or not.

> On Apr 4, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I would like to thank every one for their input and opinions.  We did go with 
> the eSIM cards and the transfer went relatively well.  Except for the lack of 
> knowledge on the tech support's behalf.  This made things take a lot longer 
> than necessary, but it's all over now.
>  
> Another question!  We're going to sell our SE2020's.  Since I've never done 
> this before, do I sell the phones with the SIM cards left in them, or do I 
> remove them and dispose of them?  Thanks much.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
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>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2023 9:31 AM
> Subject: RE: SIM Card vs eSIM Card
> 
> It is only a matter of time until SIM trays and physical SIM cards disappear 
> entirely and it can't be soon enough for me. As long as there is a mechanism 
> in lace which allows for transferring eSIMs not just between iPhones but also 
> between iPhones and Android phones there is really no good reason for SIM 
> cards. They might be very small, but manufacturing them, distributing them 
> and all that takes up resources, there is packaging and eventually Billions 
> of them end up in our landfills and oceans.
> between 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 4:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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> 
> I still much prefer a physical sim card, it’s much easier to transfer it 
> between phones, especially if you use IOS and Android like I do. I think 
> Apple removing the sim tray on the Iphone 14 was a mistake, that’s one reason 
> I got the Iphone SE instead, I would 
> 
> > On Apr 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Mike B.  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> >  My wife and I we'll be receiving our new SE2022 iPhones today.  Which will 
> > be better, sticking with the physical SIM Cards, or switching to the, eSIM 
> > card?
> >  If we do any traveling it'll be only here in the United States and our 
> > carrier is Spectrum.  So, since our carrier is nationwide this shouldn't be 
> > any problem.  I'm throwing thi information in because this could matter to 
> > someone that travels out of the country.
> >  All input is welcome.  Thanks much.
> > 
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Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I would like to thank every one for their input and opinions.  We did go 
with the eSIM cards and the transfer went relatively well.  Except for the 
lack of knowledge on the tech support's behalf.  This made things take a lot 
longer than necessary, but it's all over now.

Another question!  We're going to sell our SE2020's.  Since I've never done 
this before, do I sell the phones with the SIM cards left in them, or do I 
remove them and dispose of them?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2023 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: SIM Card vs eSIM Card


It is only a matter of time until SIM trays and physical SIM cards disappear 
entirely and it can't be soon enough for me. As long as there is a mechanism 
in lace which allows for transferring eSIMs not just between iPhones but 
also between iPhones and Android phones there is really no good reason for 
SIM cards. They might be very small, but manufacturing them, distributing 
them and all that takes up resources, there is packaging and eventually 
Billions of them end up in our landfills and oceans.
between

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

I still much prefer a physical sim card, it’s much easier to transfer it 
between phones, especially if you use IOS and Android like I do. I think 
Apple removing the sim tray on the Iphone 14 was a mistake, that’s one 
reason I got the Iphone SE instead, I would

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>  My wife and I we'll be receiving our new SE2022 iPhones today.  Which 
> will be better, sticking with the physical SIM Cards, or switching to the, 
> eSIM card?
>  If we do any traveling it'll be only here in the United States and our 
> carrier is Spectrum.  So, since our carrier is nationwide this shouldn't 
> be any problem.  I'm throwing thi information in because this could matter 
> to someone that travels out of the country.
>  All input is welcome.  Thanks much.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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RE: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

[Christopher Chaltain]

Turns out I was using Samantha after all. I improved the sluggishness by doing 
a power off and restarting. I hope that helps others.

I now see that I can choose from all of the same voices I have on my phone. I 
don’t recall seeing this before. I’m now experimenting with the same voices I 
like on my phone.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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No issues with series 5.I say reset watch after iCloud back up.
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On Apr 4, 2023, at 7:36 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com 
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Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a 
series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using VO 
has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all of 
the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to reset 
it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade.

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Re: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

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No issues with series 5.I say reset watch after iCloud back up.
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On Apr 4, 2023, at 7:36 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:


Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a 
series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using VO 
has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all of 
the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to reset 
it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade.

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Re: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I am using a series 6 and I have noticed the sluggishness. I would try 
switching voices but my watch won't let me. I may have to do a complete restore 
to see if that helps. I just don't wont to lose all my health data. 

Greg Wocher


> On Apr 4, 2023, at 12:45 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
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> I’ve noticed the sluggishness on my SE. I wasn’t aware we had an option to 
> use anything but Siri voices on the Apple Watch. I’ll need to look into this.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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>  
> Well, I’m not using the Siri voice for voiceover. I am using Samantha. And I 
> have noticed the opposite. For the last couple of releases prior to this 
> recent one, swiping was sluggish, and dictation was very problematic. Now 
> everything is snappy again. Now if only my taptic time would return. It 
> disappeared with watchOS 9 never to be seen again. I have reset and nothing 
> helped, also wrote Apple accessibility, crickets. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Apr 4, 2023, at 7:36 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com 
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> 
> 
> Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a 
> series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using 
> VO has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all 
> of the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to 
> reset it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade.
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RE: Headphones for use when navigating

[Christopher Chaltain]

For walking around, I prefer the bone conduction headphones like the OpenMove 
from Shokz or the Bose Frames. There's nothing in your ears at all. I like to 
use transparency mode when I'm around the house and still need to hear what's 
going on around me and where I want some better sound quality, such as watching 
a movie while I'm doing laundry or dishes or on my stationary bike. I still 
need to be able to hear my wife, dog, cat, ... I find the transparency mode, 
even though I can still hear what's going on around me, feels like my ears are 
stuffed up or I have water in my ears. It's like I can hear my footfalls.

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Hi,

I have never used bone conduction headphones or ones like the Airpods that have 
a transparent mode.  What are the advantages of each type when using a GPS app 
to get around a city?  

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RE: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

[Christopher Chaltain]

I’ve noticed the sluggishness on my SE. I wasn’t aware we had an option to use 
anything but Siri voices on the Apple Watch. I’ll need to look into this.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

Well, I’m not using the Siri voice for voiceover. I am using Samantha. And I 
have noticed the opposite. For the last couple of releases prior to this recent 
one, swiping was sluggish, and dictation was very problematic. Now everything 
is snappy again. Now if only my taptic time would return. It disappeared with 
watchOS 9 never to be seen again. I have reset and nothing helped, also wrote 
Apple accessibility, crickets.
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 4, 2023, at 7:36 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a 
series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using VO 
has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all of 
the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to reset 
it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade.

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RE: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is only a matter of time until SIM trays and physical SIM cards disappear 
entirely and it can't be soon enough for me. As long as there is a mechanism in 
lace which allows for transferring eSIMs not just between iPhones but also 
between iPhones and Android phones there is really no good reason for SIM 
cards. They might be very small, but manufacturing them, distributing them and 
all that takes up resources, there is packaging and eventually Billions of them 
end up in our landfills and oceans.
between 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
Arrigo
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

I still much prefer a physical sim card, it’s much easier to transfer it 
between phones, especially if you use IOS and Android like I do. I think Apple 
removing the sim tray on the Iphone 14 was a mistake, that’s one reason I got 
the Iphone SE instead, I would 

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  My wife and I we'll be receiving our new SE2022 iPhones today.  Which will 
> be better, sticking with the physical SIM Cards, or switching to the, eSIM 
> card?
>  If we do any traveling it'll be only here in the United States and our 
> carrier is Spectrum.  So, since our carrier is nationwide this shouldn't be 
> any problem.  I'm throwing thi information in because this could matter to 
> someone that travels out of the country.
>  All input is welcome.  Thanks much.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
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RE: Apple Music Classical

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I never read anything from Sonos as to what their goal for the Sonos voice 
assistant is, but as far as I am concerned it does a very good job with actual 
Sonos functionality like grouping and ungrouping speakers, changing volume and 
so on and that is fine.
As for picking a speaker in a stereo set I think that is fine and when I 
recently did a new setup of a pair of Sonos One speakers which I moved from one 
room to another, I was also asked to pick a speaker for the voice assistant as 
well as for Alexa. I think it might really be a better way to go as it might be 
confusing if both microphones listen and if the speakers are only 6 or 8 feet 
apart which is pretty standard for a stereo pair then it is entirely enough if 
one speaker listens.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical


Hi,

I haven't looked to see if it's on Apple TV yet but am now intrigued so will 
investigate. I have to agree with sieghard the Hey Sonos voice assistant is 
woefully lacking. Alexa seems to be much more responsive to requests in that 
regard.

I just got some new era300 speakers and noticed the process of adding voice 
assistants differed slightly. It now asks you to decide which speaker you want 
to put the assistant onto. What i can't figure out after searching and reading 
documentation is if you run the setup wizard as it were a second time and pick 
a second speaker in a pair does it merely move the assistant from the first to 
the second speaker or can you have it on both as used to be the case with Sonos 
Ones?

I know this strays from the original topic and I apologize but if anyone 
figures this out I'd love to know.

I'll report back about Apple TV as soon as I discover whether or not Apple 
Classical is on there.

Take good care,

Robin


On 4/3/2023 12:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
For what exactly do you use Sonos voice control? I found so far that it does 
not seem to work very well for asking it to play a certain song, artist or 
album. The only think I really use it for is to group or ungroup speakers 
because that works beautifully and also changing volume and play/pause or 
skip/rewind is fine.
As for requesting a certain song or artist, Alexa seems to work better. I have 
Apple Music set up as my default music service in the Alexa app so that seems 
to be a better option when it come sto requesting specific music.

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 

Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Yes, the airplay work around does work. Although, I have been spoiled by the 
air foil and air. Pollo satellite on the Mac. And of course the voice control 
on Sonos. I do not have an Apple TV but I know someone who does use the AppleTV 
and Sonos throughout her home and she is very happy with the results.



On Apr 3, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Actually I would consider using Airplay to send Apple Music Classical to Sonos 
as a perfectly acceptable solution at least for now.
Given how many music services Sonos supports and the fact that an Android 
version of Apple Music Classical is apparently in the works, I am pretty sure 
it is just a matter of time until it will be available natively from Sonos.
Alternatively, hopefully Apple will also release an Apple Music Classic app for 
the Apple TV and if so and if you have a Sonos surround setup, you could then 
play it to Sonos from  your Apple TV.
I just read a post on a Sonos Facebook Group that even though spacial 
music/Atmos is now supported by the Sonos app, playing it from the latest 
version of the Apple TV 4K apparently is a big difference in terms of audio 
quality. Therefore I would imagine that this might be the same with Apple Music 
Classical if it were available both on the Apple TV and natively via the Sonos 
app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music Classical

Are you able to start music from the app and then use airplay to play it 
throughout your residence? I know that’s not the best workaround and you should 
be able to ask Sonos directly to play from the app.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.




On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:07 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I am happy with the new classical music app for the most part. It is very 
accessible and searching is easy. The quality is high as you would expect with 
classical music for maximum enjoyment. The ability to browse by composer, 
genre, or 

Re: Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

[Mary Otten]

Well, I’m not using the Siri voice for voiceover. I am using Samantha. And I have noticed the opposite. For the last couple of releases prior to this recent one, swiping was sluggish, and dictation was very problematic. Now everything is snappy again. Now if only my taptic time would return. It disappeared with watchOS 9 never to be seen again. I have reset and nothing helped, also wrote Apple accessibility, crickets. Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 4, 2023, at 7:36 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using VO has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all of the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to reset it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade. ---Warmest regards,---Rick Alfaro---rick.alf...@gmail.com 



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Headphones for use when navigating

[rhs via VIPhone]

Hi,

I have never used bone conduction headphones or ones like the Airpods that have 
a transparent mode.  What are the advantages of each type when using a GPS app 
to get around a city?  

Thanks.

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Re: magic tap turns on music not in my library

[Dave Clement]

Hi, Infrequently, this happens to me. In my case, I am not an Apple Music subscriber. The music that is getting played by the "magic tap" is part of a free U2 album that was included in an earlier version of IOS. The IOS upgrade added the music whether or not you wanted it. Thus, it is music that IOS knows about. This erroneous magic tap action is now infrequent but when it does happen, I simply do another magic tap to stop it and carry on doing what I was trying to do.  You might be able to ask SIRI what song is playing when this happens. If it says it's a U2 song, then this may well be what is happening to you. Dave ClementWinnipeg MB CanadaOn Apr 4, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:I am running IOS 15.7 and I have had this happen often. I think that the phone is somehow pulling up a youtube channel which is really weird because I have never brought up that particular channel before.  Its just a weird phenomenon that happens sometimes when you do a double tap.  On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:56 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:







Hi all, 
I have very limited music in my apple music library.  It used to be that sometimes doing a two finger double tap would trigger a song in my library to start playing.  You know, you are listening to a BARD book and too much time passes after
 a pause, so a two finger double tap starts a song, rather than starting the book again because the screen locked.  Anyway, I’ve noted in the last month or so that I’m now hearing songs that aren’t in my library and I don’t know why are where they are coming
 from. The first song that plays was some sort of pop or hip hop song I’ve never heard of.  The newest one is a blast from my 1980’s childhood, but still not one in my library or that I’ve ever pulled up on this phone.  Anyone  else having this?  I just confirmed
 that I haven’t accidentally subscribed to Apple Music, . On IOS 16.3 on an iPhone SE 2020.
 
Robin
 
  
 






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Watch OS 9.4 extremely sluggish

[rick.alfaro]

Has anyone noticed the increased sluggishness with Watch OS 9.4? I have a 
series 7 watch and after upgrading to OS 9.4, swiping or tapping when using VO 
has really affected responsiveness in a big way. This is the same with all of 
the American siri voices. I’m wondering if it’s just me watch and need to reset 
it or if it’s an issue with the latest OS  upgrade.

 

---Warmest regards,

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RE: GoodMaps

[Richard Turner]

The documentation can be found on this page.
https://goodmaps.com/apps/good-maps-outdoors
It is a ways down the page.




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How do I make goodMaps speak addresses and intersections, not parts of routs, 
while I am walking to nowhere in particular?

Where is the documentation for this app?

Thx,

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Re: magic tap turns on music not in my library

[Barbara Stahl]

I am running IOS 15.7 and I have had this happen often. I think that the phone 
is somehow pulling up a youtube channel which is really weird because I have 
never brought up that particular channel before.  Its just a weird phenomenon 
that happens sometimes when you do a double tap.  

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 8:56 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I have very limited music in my apple music library.  It used to be that 
> sometimes doing a two finger double tap would trigger a song in my library to 
> start playing.  You know, you are listening to a BARD book and too much time 
> passes after a pause, so a two finger double tap starts a song, rather than 
> starting the book again because the screen locked.  Anyway, I’ve noted in the 
> last month or so that I’m now hearing songs that aren’t in my library and I 
> don’t know why are where they are coming from. The first song that plays was 
> some sort of pop or hip hop song I’ve never heard of.  The newest one is a 
> blast from my 1980’s childhood, but still not one in my library or that I’ve 
> ever pulled up on this phone.  Anyone  else having this?  I just confirmed 
> that I haven’t accidentally subscribed to Apple Music, . On IOS 16.3 on an 
> iPhone SE 2020.
>  
> Robin
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Re: SIM Card vs eSIM Card

[Mike Arrigo]

I still much prefer a physical sim card, it’s much easier to transfer it 
between phones, especially if you use IOS and Android like I do. I think Apple 
removing the sim tray on the Iphone 14 was a mistake, that’s one reason I got 
the Iphone SE instead, I would 

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
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> Hi All,
>  My wife and I we'll be receiving our new SE2022 iPhones today.  Which will 
> be better, sticking with the physical SIM Cards, or switching to the, eSIM 
> card?
>  If we do any traveling it'll be only here in the United States and our 
> carrier is Spectrum.  So, since our carrier is nationwide this shouldn't be 
> any problem.  I'm throwing thi information in because this could matter to 
> someone that travels out of the country.
>  All input is welcome.  Thanks much.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
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definitely stick with the physical sim card.

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Re: GoodMaps

[Robert Doc Wright]

Open settings then look around
- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Byrne" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:28 PM
Subject: GoodMaps


How do I make goodMaps speak addresses and intersections, not parts of 
routs, while I am walking to nowhere in particular?


Where is the documentation for this app?

Thx,

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