date:20231223

A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up 
again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas others 
had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results.

On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good consistency, 
however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. First of all, here 
is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the email I sent them in 
which I asked for clarification as to which gesture exactly should work and 
what result to expect and whether there were any exceptions:

Hello Sieghard,
Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes. This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.
If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.
You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article: https://support.apple.com/HT209585

The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double 
tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to 
start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced this 
at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all is 
well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 PM or 
a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple tap with 
1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a quadruple 
tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the minutes in haptic 
time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get just minutes after a 
triple tap.

I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in 
the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should 
definitely be something they take a closer look at.

I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple 
tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is 
always so. Please make sure to also mention the watch model you have since I 
assume this could also have something to do with it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Another great new Be My Eyes feature "Be My Eyes Groups"

This is what I received a couple of days ago from Be My Eyes:

Be My Eyes is pleased to announce a major new feature called Be My Eyes Groups!
For years we've heard from our community that not every person is comfortable 
asking for help from an unknown volunteer, no matter how kind. That's why, 
starting today, Be My Eyes is offering a major new capability to give blind 
people more choices.
In addition to our existing 7.1 million volunteers, now blind people worldwide 
can also build their own custom network of people to help with everyday tasks. 
Build your own trusted group of friends or family to help with more personal 
and sensitive tasks you might not wish to share with an unknown volunteer - 
it's your choice.
Maybe you need a friend or family member to confirm a medication. Or maybe you 
would feel more comfortable with a friend reviewing your paper mail. Surely 
among 20 friends and family members someone would be happy to help you out at 
the moment you need it. Now Be My eyes technology makes that easy. Once you've 
assembled your trusted group, just press the "My groups" button to connect with 
the first available person who is known to you.
To create a new group, click on "My groups" in the Be My Eyes App homepage and 
follow the instructions on the screen. After you have created and named your 
first group, you will be able to send an invite link to your friends and family 
members. You will find the link at the end of the group creation process. Once 
you've assembled your trusted circle, just press the Be My Eyes Groups button 
to connect with the first available person who is known to you. You can enter 
up to 20 people in your circle and have up to 5 different groups on Be My Eyes.
When you've set it up, your group will always be there to help, in any language 
you and your friends speak. And just like the other Be My Eyes features such as 
standard volunteers, Specialized Help and now Be My AI, our new Be My Eyes 
Groups feature is free of charge for non commercial use.
We'll roll out Be My Eyes Groups worldwide beginning December 20th as an open 
beta test to ensure it's working well for our worldwide user group. To access 
this new feature, just open the current Be My Eyes app and click on the button 
marked "My groups" to start creating your individual trusted group.
We welcome user feedback about the feature. Write to us at 
i...@bemyeyes.com so we can continue to improve this 
service.

Learn more about our new Be My Eyes Groups feature in our new blog post:
Be My Eyes Integrates New Feature to Receive Visual Assistance From Friends and 
Family 
Members

For a step-by-step guide about how to create your own trusted group, visit:
How do I use Be My Eyes Friends and Family 
Groups?

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RE: VO Accessible Wi-Fi Smoke Detectors

No offense, but why does a smoke detector need to be accessible? They have 1 
purpose only, make a loud noise when they detect smoke.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
April Yuille
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VO Accessible Wi-Fi Smoke Detectors

Hi All

Does anyone know which Wi-Fi smoke detectors have apps that are accessible with 
Voice Over?

Cheers and happy holidays.
Debbie
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RE: keyboard hidden

Maybe your keyboard was on and the iPhone connected to it

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboard hidden

Minding my own business on the iPhone doing something I don't remember but 
probably in messages, the phone suddenly said "keyboard hidden".  and the 
keyboard was gone.  I could dictate, but could not correct.  No keyboard.  I 
retrieved the stinker by connecting my logitech k480 and pressing f3.

What makes the keyboard disappear?  How, without attaching the K480, can I 
retrieve it?

thanks much,

Ann

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RE: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

And have you confirmed as to whether it is accessible?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:25 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

Hi All,

I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds pretty 
good.  Have a look for yourselves.

https://imazing.com/

iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC

iMazing
Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.

iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
messages, music, files and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.

Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer capabilities, 
and much more with iMazing.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

As others mentioned, this is just the initial setup screen. Be My Eyes has two 
kinds of users: those who need assistance and those who provide it. If you are 
blind and want to use it for assistance you tap on "I need assistance", then 
create an account and you are good to go. You won't ever have to do this again.

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From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

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VO Accessible Wi-Fi Smoke Detectors

2023-12-23 Thread Debbie April Yuille

Hi All

 

Does anyone know which Wi-Fi smoke detectors have apps that are accessible
with Voice Over?

 

Cheers and happy holidays.

Debbie

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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I completely agree with you Richard, I only mentioned SuperSense’s description 
out of interest rather than a recommendation.

I may say the same of Tap Tap See and One Step Reader!

There are many apps on my iPhone that no longer deserve being there.

My comparison was based on one image alone with my iPhone placed on a stand 
controlled with a Bluetooth keyboard.  Had I taken photographs of  other 
subjects under different lighting conditions my results may have been totally 
different.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2023, at 23:44, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want 
> to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're 
> prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see 
> the options to either call a live person or make use of AI.
> I hope that helps.
> Take good care,
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> Hello Richard and Everyone,
> 
> I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:
> 
> After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
> description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
> human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.
> 
> Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
> options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
> like to volunteer, share your sight.
> 
> I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.
> 
> How does one activate that feature?
> 
> The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
> exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and 
> how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
> $19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
> To: ViPone list 
> Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
> descriptions. 
> I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv 
> on a table." 
> I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 
> 
> The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the 
> left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In 
> the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the 
> stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, 
> there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a 
> window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the 
> right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, 
> suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are 
> painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas 
> tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a 
> corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer 
> might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.
> 
> Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-23 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


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“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
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-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-23 Thread llumpkin

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.

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Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.

Richard, USA
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How to turn on iPhone Stolen Device Protection; and should you? 9 to 5 Mac

2023-12-23 Thread VIPhone



How to turn on iPhone Stolen Device Protection; and should you?
9to5Mac:  Saturday, December 23, 2023 

An important new security feature for iPhone has arrived to test with the 
iOS 17.3 beta that gives you protection in the event your device is stolen. 
Join along for a look at how to turn on iPhone Stolen Device Protection and 
also some advice on whether or not you should use the feature.

With the first iOS 17.3 beta, Apple launched the ability to test out iPhone 
Stolen Device Protection. The feature comes after WSJ’s Joanna Stern 
investigated a rise in iPhone thefts in public places like bars. The 
approach typically saw attackers observing victims entering their passcodes 
before stealing their iPhones and then using that to immediately change 
their Apple ID password and lock the owners out of their accounts and even 
iCloud backups.

Notably, Joanna even interviewed an iPhone thief who was able to take more 
than $300,000 from victims using this attack.

Fortunately, iPhone Stolen Device Protection solves the problem by 
requiring biometric authentication when away from trusted places like home 
and work. It also includes a time delay for a second biometric 
authentication for certain sensitive actions.
Check out more details on how exactly it works in our full coverage:
Should you turn on iPhone Stolen Device Protection?
Short answer, yes. Here’s more context…
• The brilliant thing about Stolen Device Protection is that there’s very 
little downside to the user experience while providing a great boost to 
security.
• After turning the feature on, if you end up in an unlikely situation 
where Face ID or Touch ID isn’t working: 
o You can keep using your device for texts, calls, and most functions – you 
just won’t be able to do sensitive actions like changing Apple ID password, 
changing the passcode or Face ID/Touch ID, seeing saved passwords, etc.
o You can turn Stolen Device Protection off with your passcode when back at 
a familiar location like home before you get your iPhone repaired

How to turn on iPhone Stolen Device Protection
1. Make sure you’re running the iOS 17.3 beta on your iPhone (beta 
installation guide)
2. Open the Settings app
3. Swipe down and tap Face ID & Passcode (or Touch ID & Passcode)
4. Now under Stolen Device Protection tap Turn On Protection
That’s it!

As mentioned above, if you need to turn it off after the rare event of 
breaking or damaging your Face ID TrueDepth camera or Touch ID sensor, you 
can use your passcode to do that when at a trusted location.
 
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Re: downloading a new app on the iPhone

I search the app store. When I finthese app, I double tap on get. Confirm that I want it by double tapping the side button and it downloads. Make sure you don't have your phone set to download to the app library instead of the home screen. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:43 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:Recently I am having a real struggle downloading new apps on the iPHone. How do others go about it?Alison 



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iMazing App for Backing Up Your iPhone to a PC or Mac

2023-12-23 Thread Mike B.

Hi All,

I heard about the iMazing app on a radio tech show today and it sounds 
pretty good.  Have a look for yourselves.


https://imazing.com/

iMazing | iPhone, iPad & iPod Manager for Mac & PC

iMazing
Manage your iPhone.  On your terms.

iMazing is the world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your 
messages, music, files and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC.

Gain powerful backup, data extraction, media, and file transfer 
capabilities, and much more with iMazing.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Malcolm, that may be true that SuperSens may have done a little better job, but for free, I'll take Be My Eyes hands down. No one should buy SuperSense! Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:I would say Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:46, Dan wrote:

So Malcolm,

Which gave the most accurate description?

Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
wrote:

I
completely agree with you Richard. Knowing what I do now I would
not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.

As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.

Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner wrote:

Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us,
“Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
it on the other side of Hell and you will have to
go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

I have just carried out a similar test
with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.

Envision gave me the following:

Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.

There is no television in the room.

Be My AI give me:

The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
cards and a small framed photo.

In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
be handmade, possibly knitted.

Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
or wrapping paper.

The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
traditional holiday feel.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.

RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-23 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I would say Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:46, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
So Malcolm,

  
Which gave the most accurate description?

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
  wrote:

I
  completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would
  not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.
  
  
  As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.
  
  
  Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

  On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner  wrote:

  


  Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and
StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My
Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low
lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I
took of another part of our living room and when she looked
at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave
such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and
she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an
amazing job. 

  



  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us,
  “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
  it on the other side of Hell and you will have to
  go through Hell to get it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   



  
  
On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
  Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
  

  
  
I have just carried out a similar test
  with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.
  
  
  Envision gave me the following:
  
  
  Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
  
  
  
  
  There is no television in the room.
  
  
  Be My AI give me:
  
  
  
The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
  festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
  dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
  the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
  train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
  cards and a small framed photo.


In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
  leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
  snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
  white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
  be handmade, possibly knitted.


Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
  fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
  Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
  cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
  or wrapping paper.


The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
  featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
  overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
  traditional holiday feel.


Image description provided with Be My Eyes.



  Supersense gave me:
  


The image shows an interior
  setting with a variety of items and
  decorations. Focusing from the top of the
  image downwards:

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

2023-12-23 Thread Dan



  
  
So Malcolm,

  
Which gave the most accurate description?

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
  wrote:

I
  completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would
  not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.
  
  
  As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.
  
  
  Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

  On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner  wrote:

  


  Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and
StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My
Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low
lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I
took of another part of our living room and when she looked
at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave
such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and
she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an
amazing job. 

  



  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us,
  “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
  it on the other side of Hell and you will have to
  go through Hell to get it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   



  
  
On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
  Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
  

  
  
I have just carried out a similar test
  with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.
  
  
  Envision gave me the following:
  
  
  Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
  
  
  
  
  There is no television in the room.
  
  
  Be My AI give me:
  
  
  
The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
  festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
  dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
  the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
  train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
  cards and a small framed photo.


In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
  leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
  snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
  white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
  be handmade, possibly knitted.


Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
  fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
  Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
  cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
  or wrapping paper.


The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
  featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
  overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
  traditional holiday feel.


Image description provided with Be My Eyes.



  Supersense gave me:
  


The image shows an interior
  setting with a variety of items and
  decorations. Focusing from the top of the
  image downwards:


At the top, there's a framed

RE: downloading a new app on the iPhone

2023-12-23 Thread CJ & AA MAY

Recently I am having a real struggle downloading new apps on the iPHone. How do 
others go about it?

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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I completely agree with you Richard. Knowing what I do now I would not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense to add its findings to your excellent post.Happy holiday to one and all!Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard Turner wrote:Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok, but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok, but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 



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Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
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Re: charging device - does this exist?

2023-12-23 Thread Tamika Polk-Davis

This is my go to, I have one at home and one I carry with me wherever I go. HITRENDS Surge Protector Power... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FTYBOC4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shareThanks, Mrs. Tamika Polk-Davis  On Dec 22, 2023, at 9:50 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:This sounds perfect, Richard. It would be even more perfect if I could find the one with some USB-C ports Inc. as well. Thank you so much for posting this particular link.Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro!On Dec 19, 2023, at 7:26 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Here is the description from Amazon of the one I bought a few months ago and love it!  It works fine on my Dell Laptop and with any and all USB A plugs I have connected for charging or data.  I’ll explain more after the description and then I will give the link. Amazon.com: Anker 10 Port 60W Data Hub with 7 USB 3.0 Ports and 3 PowerIQ Charging Ports for MacBook, Mac Pro/Mini, iMac, XPS, Surface Pro, iPhone 7, 6sPlus, iPad Air 2, Galaxy Series, Mobile HDD, and More : Electronics It is less than 2 inches wide, and less than 6 inches long.It plugs into the wall and has a USB-A cord that is very short for plugging into your computer if you want to plug in accessories to connect to your computer. The three ports farthest from the cord that goes to the wall are for data transfer only, and don’t charge.But the first 7 from that Wall cord both handle data and charging.I have my external CD Rom plugged in, my usb headset, usb speakers and my USB dongle for my keyboard and more.They also make one with a USBC plug to the computer and USBC ports, but I have mostly the older USB-A devices.Here is the Amazon link:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VDVCQ84/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 HTH, Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van LantSent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 6:22 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: charging device - does this exist? Hi,I typically charge my iPhones, battery packs,  and such with a single cable plugged into a block plugged into the extension cord or directly into the outlet.  What I’d ideally  like is a sort of USB extension  cord where I can plug one end into a hard to reach outlet, then have a hub of USB ports where I can plug in several devices, rather than managing a number of those bulky blocks and an extension cord.   Does this kind of thing exist and what would it be called for an Amazon or Walmart search?  Any considerations to keep in mind as I’m selecting one?  I feared that if I searched for “USB hub”, I’d end up with the kind that is used to plug a bunch of peripherals into a computer and I don’t think that is the right thing. I need the hub to plug into AC power to charge my devices.  TIA,Robin-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR14MB4716FED9BD70307183C8DFC7AF97A%40MW4PR14MB4716.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: charging device - does this exist?

2023-12-23 Thread Tamika Polk-Davis

Anker 4-Port USB 3.0 Ultra Slim... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XMD7KPU?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shareThanks, Mrs. Tamika Polk-Davis  On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:45 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:This could be handy, as once I set up my new iPhone I got on the upgrade program, it will be using USBC, but my Airpods Pro uses the lightning connector on its case. The cable apple gives with stuff barely reaches the outlet in the bedroom if I want to listen to YouTube or something for a little while in there anyways. I could probably solve two issues with these. I know the old Apple lightning cables get frayed over time, and I wouldn’t want to make my pods useless, since they won’t charge with the watch charger or on the back of the phone, I don’t think.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 9:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: charging device - does this exist?  Rather than options with built-in cables that might fail, I highly recommend checking out a product from RollingSquare called inchargeX (short cables) and InCharge Max (longer cables). These are great because they have built-in connections for USB-C, lightning, and micro USB. The other end has both USB and USB-C. The design is very nice.  I have various lengths from keychain size all the way up to 10 feet. The longer ones come with a handy silicone case.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Dec 20, 2023, at 9:10 AM, R Van Lant  wrote: Thanks all.  I’ll look into these options.  Might be nice to have one with a variety of connection cords for travel.  I had a keychain version of this once and it was nice not to have to carry all my cords with me—until the connection I used the most broke.         From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 9:48 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: charging device - does this exist? Yes, this does exist and they actually call it a hub. I like Anker brand and have several of them. Very reliable. Mine have a plug that go into the AC outlet, then plugging into a hub with 5 or moreUSB ports.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Here is the description from Amazon of the one I bought a few months ago and love it!  It works fine on my Dell Laptop and with any and all USB A plugs I have connected for charging or data.  I’ll explain more after the description and then I will give the link. Amazon.com: Anker 10 Port 60W Data Hub with 7 USB 3.0 Ports and 3 PowerIQ Charging Ports for MacBook, Mac Pro/Mini, iMac, XPS, Surface Pro, iPhone 7, 6sPlus, iPad Air 2, Galaxy Series, Mobile HDD, and More : Electronics It is less than 2 inches wide, and less than 6 inches long.It plugs into the wall and has a USB-A cord that is very short for plugging into your computer if you want to plug in accessories to connect to your computer. The three ports farthest from the cord that goes to the wall are for data transfer only, and don’t charge.But the first 7 from that Wall cord both handle data and charging.I have my external CD Rom plugged in, my usb headset, usb speakers and my USB dongle for my keyboard and more.They also make one with a USBC plug to the computer and USBC ports, but I have mostly the older USB-A devices.Here is the Amazon link:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VDVCQ84/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 HTH, Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van LantSent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 6:22 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: charging device - does this exist? Hi,I typically charge my iPhones, battery packs,  and such with a single cable plugged into a block plugged into the extension cord or directly into the outlet.  What I’d ideally  like is a sort of USB extension  cord where I can plug one end into a hard to reach outlet, then have a hub of USB ports where I can plug in several devices, rather than managing a number of those bulky blocks and an extension cord.   Does this kind of thing exist and what would it be called for an Amazon or Walmart search?  Any considerations to keep in mind as I’m selecting one?  I feared that if I searched for “USB hub”, I’d end up with the kind that is used to plug a bunch of peripherals into a computer and I don’t think that is the right thing. I need the hub to plug into AC power to charge my devices.  TIA,Robin-- The following

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 2:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: charging device - does this exist?

 

This sounds perfect, Richard. It would be even more perfect if I could find the 
one with some USB-C ports Inc. as well. Thank you so much for posting this 
particular link.

Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro!





On Dec 19, 2023, at 7:26 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Here is the description from Amazon of the one I bought a few months ago and 
love it!  It works fine on my Dell Laptop and with any and all USB A plugs I 
have connected for charging or data.  I’ll explain more after the description 
and then I will give the link.

 

Amazon.com: Anker 10 Port 60W Data Hub with 7 USB 3.0 Ports and 3 PowerIQ 
Charging Ports for MacBook, Mac Pro/Mini, iMac, XPS, Surface Pro, iPhone 7, 6s

Plus, iPad Air 2, Galaxy Series, Mobile HDD, and More : Electronics

 

It is less than 2 inches wide, and less than 6 inches long.

It plugs into the wall and has a USB-A cord that is very short for plugging 
into your computer if you want to plug in accessories to connect to your 
computer.

 

The three ports farthest from the cord that goes to the wall are for data 
transfer only, and don’t charge.

But the first 7 from that Wall cord both handle data and charging.

I have my external CD Rom plugged in, my usb headset, usb speakers and my USB 
dongle for my keyboard and more.

They also make one with a USBC plug to the computer and USBC ports, but I have 
mostly the older USB-A devices.

Here is the Amazon link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VDVCQ84/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8
 

 =1

 

HTH,

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: charging device - does this exist?

 

Hi,

I typically charge my iPhones, battery packs,  and such with a single cable 
plugged into a block plugged into the extension cord or directly into the 
outlet.  What I’d ideally  like is a sort of USB extension  cord where I can 
plug one end into a hard to reach outlet, then have a hub of USB ports where I 
can plug in several devices, rather than managing a number of those bulky 
blocks and an extension cord.   Does this kind of thing exist and what would it 
be called for an Amazon or Walmart search?  Any considerations to keep in mind 
as I’m selecting one?  I feared that if I searched for “USB hub”, I’d end up 
with the kind that is used to plug a bunch of peripherals into a computer and I 
don’t think that is the right thing. I need the hub to plug into AC power to 
charge my devices.

  

TIA,

Robin

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Re: charging device - does this exist?