Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream

[Arnold Schmidt]

I just updated it on both my S E 2, and on this one, with no  changes. I still have download buttons, and the playback speed is still adjustable. I am running version 17.4.1 on both my devices.   Sadly to say, they are going to have  to have a device in hand that exhibits these specific problems before they will be able to address them. If it works on their devices as it should, they can't make it not work so they can figure things out. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On May 9, 2024, at 8:15 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:Still no download button for me; who do they have testing these things?On May 9, 2024, at 8:11 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:One major bug that appears to have popped up is that the audio playback speed no matter how fast you set it, stays on the default speed. In otherwords, molasses. I tried playing different audiobooks and it’s the same no matter what file you play. Already wrote VDR support about it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CCSent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 4:51 PMTo: VIPhone Subject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream Folks, it's Thursday, 9 nMay, 2024. I just downloaded voicedream version 4.34 and still no downloadbutton for bookshare Phone is running ios16.7.2. Has anyone else had better luck with this update?  On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 6:04:43 PM UTC-4 Kelby Carlson wrote:Support did finally get back to me and said that they should be pushing out an update that they anticipate will fix this. It does sound like an iOS compatibility issue.On May 7, 2024, at 12:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:I think I remember that some of those who are having this no download button  problem say they can download from Bookshare's web site, just not into Voice Dream directly. If this be the case for you, there should be a download button if you look up a book on the site. If so, download it, then go into voice dream, tap the add button, and file browser will be one of the choices. Import books that way until this situation gets fixed.  If you choose this method, don't forget to open files and delete the book once you know it is in voice dream.  You say you are running 16.x. I wonder if version 17.x is needed to run the latest voice dream? If so, this is unfortunate!  Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On May 6, 2024, at 12:13 PM, CC  wrote:Book share invoice change subscriptions are up-to-date. I'm running 16.7.2 on an older model iPhone. Since May 1, 2024 no download buttons appear when I search book share results. I am able to download from CELA. Applause support sent a message on Saturday asking if it occurred with all books in the book share library. I told them that yes it did. No downloads. I use VD for hours daily and hope for a solution soon.On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 10:40:47 AM UTC-4 Dana Leet wrote:We did pay for the subscription and my husband and I both are able to download from Bookshare Reader buttons are available for us > On May 5, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote: > > Hi John, > > Out of curiosity, what are your results when you do a search for Bookshare titles from within VDR as opposed to checking download history? Does the add button appear next to those search results? Also, did you subscribe to VDR at the new recently created subscription pricing model? > > I'm getting the add button with all search results and download history but I noticed it was missing when I drilled down on New York Times fiction bestsellers. I did subscribe when the pricing recently changed. > > Alan Lemly > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 5, 2024, at 7:55 AM, 'john riehl' via VIPhone  wrote: >> >> I can confirm this issue. I have an active Bookshare account. When I go into my Download history as an option for downloading books into VDR the Download button does not appear after each book as it used to. All that you see is a list of book titles with no way to perform an action on them. >> >> John Riehl >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: vip...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson >> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:12 AM >> To: vip...@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream >> >> No, it's still active and I can download them from the website. >>  On May 2, 2024, at 10:42 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote: >>> >>>  >>> Is your subscription with Bookshare up to date? >>> I accidentally let mine expire, and that is how things looked to me if I accessed it through Voice Dream. Once I renewed my subscription, the download buttons reappeared. >>> >>> I am running the most recent update. I just checked and I have the download buttons. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> > On May 2, 2024, at 8:58 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:   Starting today, I am no longer able to add Bookshare books to my Voice Dream library. I can still search for them, but none of them have "downl

RE: Have a question about the Air pod Max headphones I'm getting.

[Richard Turner]

Hi Kevin,

I put together some information when I got mine and put it on my web site as 
part of my “Demos and Walk-Throughs” page.

It is about four headings down from the top of the page:

https://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

I don’t 

HTH,

Richard, USA

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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

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Minor
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 7:30 PM
To: VIPHONE@GOOGLEGROUPS.COM
Subject: Have a question about the Air pod Max headphones I'm getting.

 

Hi.

 

My Niece got a pair of these for her birthday, and I was very impressed, 
particularly with the noise cancelation. I decided to get a pair of my own, but 
I have a question about them. I’d like to have my iPhone and PC paired with 
them at the same time, so what I could do is switch between these sources.  Is 
this possible, and what other cool things could I do with them?

 

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

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Have a question about the Air pod Max headphones I'm getting.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

My Niece got a pair of these for her birthday, and I was very impressed, 
particularly with the noise cancelation. I decided to get a pair of my own, but 
I have a question about them. I'd like to have my iPhone and PC paired with 
them at the same time, so what I could do is switch between these sources.  Is 
this possible, and what other cool things could I do with them?

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
Kevin and Jilly

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Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream

[Kelby Carlson]

Still no download button for me; who do they have testing these things?

> On May 9, 2024, at 8:11 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> 
> One major bug that appears to have popped up is that the audio playback speed 
> no matter how fast you set it, stays on the default speed. In otherwords, 
> molasses. I tried playing different audiobooks and it’s the same no matter 
> what file you play.
> Already wrote VDR support about it.
>  
> Cristóbal
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CC
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 4:51 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream
>  
> Folks, it's Thursday, 9 nMay, 2024. I just downloaded voicedream version 4.34 
> and still no downloadbutton for bookshare Phone is running ios16.7.2. Has 
> anyone else had better luck with this update?  
> 
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 6:04:43 PM UTC-4 Kelby Carlson wrote:
> Support did finally get back to me and said that they should be pushing out 
> an update that they anticipate will fix this. It does sound like an iOS 
> compatibility issue.
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2024, at 12:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I think I remember that some of those who are having this no download button 
>  problem say they can download from Bookshare's web site, just not into Voice 
> Dream directly. If this be the case for you, there should be a download 
> button if you look up a book on the site. If so, download it, then go into 
> voice dream, tap the add button, and file browser will be one of the choices. 
> Import books that way until this situation gets fixed.  If you choose this 
> method, don't forget to open files and delete the book once you know it is in 
> voice dream. 
>  
> You say you are running 16.x. I wonder if version 17.x is needed to run the 
> latest voice dream? If so, this is unfortunate! 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On May 6, 2024, at 12:13 PM, CC  wrote:
> 
> Book share invoice change subscriptions are up-to-date. I'm running 16.7.2 
> on an older model iPhone. Since May 1, 2024 no download buttons appear when I 
> search book share results. I am able to download from CELA. Applause support 
> sent a message on Saturday asking if it occurred with all books in the book 
> share library. I told them that yes it did. No downloads. I use VD for hours 
> daily and hope for a solution soon.
> 
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 10:40:47 AM UTC-4 Dana Leet wrote:
> 
> We did pay for the subscription and my husband and I both are able to 
> download from Bookshare Reader buttons are available for us 
> 
> > On May 5, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi John, 
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, what are your results when you do a search for Bookshare 
> > titles from within VDR as opposed to checking download history? Does the 
> > add button appear next to those search results? Also, did you subscribe to 
> > VDR at the new recently created subscription pricing model? 
> > 
> > I'm getting the add button with all search results and download history but 
> > I noticed it was missing when I drilled down on New York Times fiction 
> > bestsellers. I did subscribe when the pricing recently changed. 
> > 
> > Alan Lemly 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> >> On May 5, 2024, at 7:55 AM, 'john riehl' via VIPhone 
> >>  wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I can confirm this issue. I have an active Bookshare account. When I go 
> >> into my Download history as an option for downloading books into VDR the 
> >> Download button does not appear after each book as it used to. All that 
> >> you see is a list of book titles with no way to perform an action on them. 
> >> 
> >> John Riehl 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message- 
> >> From: vip...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
> >> Carlson 
> >> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:12 AM 
> >> To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
> >> Subject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream 
> >> 
> >> No, it's still active and I can download them from the website. 
> >> 
>  On May 2, 2024, at 10:42 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >>> Is your subscription with Bookshare up to date? 
> >>> I accidentally let mine expire, and that is how things looked to me if I 
> >>> accessed it through Voice Dream. Once I renewed my subscription, the 
> >>> download buttons reappeared. 
> >>> 
> >>> I am running the most recent update. I just checked and I have the 
> >>> download buttons. 
> >>> 
> >>> Chris 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> > On May 2, 2024, at 8:58 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote: 
>  
>  Starting today, I am no longer able to add Bookshare books to my Voice 
>  Dream library. I can still search for them, but none of them have 
>  "download" buttons. I can add other types of files to my library, 
>  including Bookshare books if I download them from the website. 
>  
>  I have updated to the latest version, as well as rebooted my phone, 
>  and logged out and back in to Bookshare. Voice Dream support has not yet 
>  w

RE: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

One major bug that appears to have popped up is that the audio playback speed 
no matter how fast you set it, stays on the default speed. In otherwords, 
molasses. I tried playing different audiobooks and it’s the same no matter what 
file you play. 
Already wrote VDR support about it.
 
Cristóbal
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CC
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 4:51 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream
 
Folks, it's Thursday, 9 nMay, 2024. I just downloaded voicedream version 4.34 
and still no downloadbutton for bookshare Phone is running ios16.7.2. Has 
anyone else had better luck with this update?  
On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 6:04:43 PM UTC-4 Kelby Carlson wrote:
Support did finally get back to me and said that they should be pushing out an 
update that they anticipate will fix this. It does sound like an iOS 
compatibility issue.



On May 7, 2024, at 12:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt mailto:als...@gmail.com> > wrote:
I think I remember that some of those who are having this no download button  
problem say they can download from Bookshare's web site, just not into Voice 
Dream directly. If this be the case for you, there should be a download button 
if you look up a book on the site. If so, download it, then go into voice 
dream, tap the add button, and file browser will be one of the choices. Import 
books that way until this situation gets fixed.  If you choose this method, 
don't forget to open files and delete the book once you know it is in voice 
dream. 
 
You say you are running 16.x. I wonder if version 17.x is needed to run the 
latest voice dream? If so, this is unfortunate! 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On May 6, 2024, at 12:13 PM, CC mailto:ccunqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Book share invoice change subscriptions are up-to-date. I'm running 16.7.2 on 
an older model iPhone. Since May 1, 2024 no download buttons appear when I 
search book share results. I am able to download from CELA. Applause support 
sent a message on Saturday asking if it occurred with all books in the book 
share library. I told them that yes it did. No downloads. I use VD for hours 
daily and hope for a solution soon.
On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 10:40:47 AM UTC-4 Dana Leet wrote:

We did pay for the subscription and my husband and I both are able to download 
from Bookshare Reader buttons are available for us 

> On May 5, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Alan Lemly   > wrote: 
> 
> Hi John, 
> 
> Out of curiosity, what are your results when you do a search for Bookshare 
> titles from within VDR as opposed to checking download history? Does the add 
> button appear next to those search results? Also, did you subscribe to VDR at 
> the new recently created subscription pricing model? 
> 
> I'm getting the add button with all search results and download history but I 
> noticed it was missing when I drilled down on New York Times fiction 
> bestsellers. I did subscribe when the pricing recently changed. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On May 5, 2024, at 7:55 AM, 'john riehl' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 
>> 
>> I can confirm this issue. I have an active Bookshare account. When I go 
>> into my Download history as an option for downloading books into VDR the 
>> Download button does not appear after each book as it used to. All that you 
>> see is a list of book titles with no way to perform an action on them. 
>> 
>> John Riehl 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com   
>> mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
>> Kelby Carlson 
>> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:12 AM 
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com   
>> Subject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream 
>> 
>> No, it's still active and I can download them from the website. 
>> 
 On May 2, 2024, at 10:42 PM, Chris Chaffin >>>  > wrote: 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Is your subscription with Bookshare up to date? 
>>> I accidentally let mine expire, and that is how things looked to me if I 
>>> accessed it through Voice Dream. Once I renewed my subscription, the 
>>> download buttons reappeared. 
>>> 
>>> I am running the most recent update. I just checked and I have the download 
>>> buttons. 
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> 
>>> 
> On May 2, 2024, at 8:58 PM, Kelby Carlson   > wrote: 
 
 Starting today, I am no longer able to add Bookshare books to my Voice 
 Dream library. I can still search for them, but none of them have 
 "download" buttons. I can add other types of files to my library, 
 including Bookshare books if I download them from the website. 
 
 I have updated to the latest version, as well as rebooted my phone, 
 and logged out and back in to Bookshare. Voice Dream support has not yet 
 written me back (in fact I don't know if I've ever received a response 
>>>

Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream

[CC]

Folks, it's Thursday, 9 nMay, 2024. I just downloaded voicedream version 
4.34 and still no downloadbutton for bookshare Phone is running ios16.7.2. 
Has anyone else had better luck with this update?  

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 6:04:43 PM UTC-4 Kelby Carlson wrote:

> Support did finally get back to me and said that they should be pushing 
> out an update that they anticipate will fix this. It does sound like an iOS 
> compatibility issue.
>
> On May 7, 2024, at 12:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>
> I think I remember that some of those who are having this no download 
> button  problem say they can download from Bookshare's web site, just not 
> into Voice Dream directly. If this be the case for you, there should be a 
> download button if you look up a book on the site. If so, download it, then 
> go into voice dream, tap the add button, and file browser will be one of 
> the choices. Import books that way until this situation gets fixed.  If you 
> choose this method, don't forget to open files and delete the book once you 
> know it is in voice dream. 
>
>
> You say you are running 16.x. I wonder if version 17.x is needed to run 
> the latest voice dream? If so, this is unfortunate! 
>
> Arnold Schmidt 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>
> On May 6, 2024, at 12:13 PM, CC  wrote:
>
> Book share invoice change subscriptions are up-to-date. I'm running 
> 16.7.2 on an older model iPhone. Since May 1, 2024 no download buttons 
> appear when I search book share results. I am able to download from CELA. 
> Applause support sent a message on Saturday asking if it occurred with all 
> books in the book share library. I told them that yes it did. No downloads. 
> I use VD for hours daily and hope for a solution soon.
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 10:40:47 AM UTC-4 Dana Leet wrote:
>
>>
>> We did pay for the subscription and my husband and I both are able to 
>> download from Bookshare Reader buttons are available for us 
>>
>> > On May 5, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hi John, 
>> > 
>> > Out of curiosity, what are your results when you do a search for 
>> Bookshare titles from within VDR as opposed to checking download history? 
>> Does the add button appear next to those search results? Also, did you 
>> subscribe to VDR at the new recently created subscription pricing model? 
>> > 
>> > I'm getting the add button with all search results and download history 
>> but I noticed it was missing when I drilled down on New York Times fiction 
>> bestsellers. I did subscribe when the pricing recently changed. 
>> > 
>> > Alan Lemly 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> >> On May 5, 2024, at 7:55 AM, 'john riehl' via VIPhone <
>> vip...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> I can confirm this issue. I have an active Bookshare account. When I 
>> go into my Download history as an option for downloading books into VDR the 
>> Download button does not appear after each book as it used to. All that you 
>> see is a list of book titles with no way to perform an action on them. 
>> >> 
>> >> John Riehl 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> -Original Message- 
>> >> From: vip...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelby Carlson 
>> >> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:12 AM 
>> >> To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
>> >> Subject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream 
>> >> 
>> >> No, it's still active and I can download them from the website. 
>> >> 
>>  On May 2, 2024, at 10:42 PM, Chris Chaffin  
>> wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>>  
>> >>> Is your subscription with Bookshare up to date? 
>> >>> I accidentally let mine expire, and that is how things looked to me 
>> if I accessed it through Voice Dream. Once I renewed my subscription, the 
>> download buttons reappeared. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I am running the most recent update. I just checked and I have the 
>> download buttons. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Chris 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> > On May 2, 2024, at 8:58 PM, Kelby Carlson  
>> wrote: 
>>  
>>  Starting today, I am no longer able to add Bookshare books to my 
>> Voice Dream library. I can still search for them, but none of them have 
>> "download" buttons. I can add other types of files to my library, including 
>> Bookshare books if I download them from the website. 
>>  
>>  I have updated to the latest version, as well as rebooted my phone, 
>>  and logged out and back in to Bookshare. Voice Dream support has not 
>> yet written me back (in fact I don't know if I've ever received a response 
>> from them since Applause bought it.) Has anyone else seen this problem? 
>>  
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RE: Sonos latest update.

[Dennis Long]

It never should've been released.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos latest update.

It's clunky at best, if you haven't updated yet and you use your Sonos app a 
lot I would highly recommend that you wait to see what happens in 2 weeks. I 
told my Sonos contact that the ball is now in their court and they better make 
sure the promises they made about major accessibility improvements on May 21 
and more by end of June will happen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 1:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos latest update.

Ok I have a question. How accessible is searching for and playing music? I know 
you need to play music through the app to enjoy Dolby atmos?

Chris Judge






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:34 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.

Hi Sieghard. I also was able to check for a firmware update and found that 
there was none. After playing around with the app, I was able to locate most 
everything within the app. I certainly agree that the app needs some big 
accessibility improvements. However, for me, I find it quite useable. I 
originally updated the app on my iPad. Earlier today, I updated the app on my 
iPhone 15 pro Max, running IOS 17.5 RC. You have to swipe quite a bit because 
touching the screen does absolutely nothing. It tells me that true play is off 
no matter how many times I tap to change the option. However, I know that it is 
changing because I can hear the change in the sound from the speaker that is 
playing. Also, My sighted wife says that the icon changes.  I hope Sonos 
address the VoiceOver accessibility issues sooner rather than later. But for 
me, The app is useable.

> On May 8, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Larry, I just replied to another message of Richard's, but just in case you 
> didn't see o rread it entirely, it does not appear that this app update comes 
> with a hardware update or requires one. I updated the Sonos app on our iPad 
> last night and then did a manual check for updates in the new Sonos app and I 
> was told that my system was up to date. This app update seems to be all about 
> a new look and user interface and not about new capabilities of the system.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 1:29 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Ok. I was just curious. I’m afraid to update the firmware.  
> 
>> On May 7, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did not update the firmware, unless it updated itself.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 12:03 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Sonos latest update.
>> 
>> Richard, did you update both Sonos firmware and software? I believe you said 
>> that you did the update using your iPad. But did you also update the 
>> firmware? I ask because after reading your email, I used my iPad to update 
>> the app only. I was able to use the app with no real issues. I don’t know if 
>> things would be different if I updated the firmware. I did not per update 
>> the Sonos app on my iPhone 15 Max.
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RE: Sonos latest update.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's clunky at best, if you haven't updated yet and you use your Sonos app a 
lot I would highly recommend that you wait to see what happens in 2 weeks. I 
told my Sonos contact that the ball is now in their court and they better make 
sure the promises they made about major accessibility improvements on May 21 
and more by end of June will happen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 1:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos latest update.

Ok I have a question. How accessible is searching for and playing music? I know 
you need to play music through the app to enjoy Dolby atmos?

Chris Judge






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:34 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.

Hi Sieghard. I also was able to check for a firmware update and found that 
there was none. After playing around with the app, I was able to locate most 
everything within the app. I certainly agree that the app needs some big 
accessibility improvements. However, for me, I find it quite useable. I 
originally updated the app on my iPad. Earlier today, I updated the app on my 
iPhone 15 pro Max, running IOS 17.5 RC. You have to swipe quite a bit because 
touching the screen does absolutely nothing. It tells me that true play is off 
no matter how many times I tap to change the option. However, I know that it is 
changing because I can hear the change in the sound from the speaker that is 
playing. Also, My sighted wife says that the icon changes.  I hope Sonos 
address the VoiceOver accessibility issues sooner rather than later. But for 
me, The app is useable.

> On May 8, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Larry, I just replied to another message of Richard's, but just in case you 
> didn't see o rread it entirely, it does not appear that this app update comes 
> with a hardware update or requires one. I updated the Sonos app on our iPad 
> last night and then did a manual check for updates in the new Sonos app and I 
> was told that my system was up to date. This app update seems to be all about 
> a new look and user interface and not about new capabilities of the system.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 1:29 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Ok. I was just curious. I’m afraid to update the firmware.  
> 
>> On May 7, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did not update the firmware, unless it updated itself.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 12:03 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Sonos latest update.
>> 
>> Richard, did you update both Sonos firmware and software? I believe you said 
>> that you did the update using your iPad. But did you also update the 
>> firmware? I ask because after reading your email, I used my iPad to update 
>> the app only. I was able to use the app with no real issues. I don’t know if 
>> things would be different if I updated the firmware. I did not per update 
>> the Sonos app on my iPhone 15 Max.
>> 
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RE: Sonos latest update.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks Larry, I had already noticed the fact that if I use the gesture to go to 
the very bottom and swip eback I see my speakers/rooms, but with all these 
strange buttons and images I hadn't figured out yet which one to tap. Let's 
hope that the May 21 update we are being told includes a lot of accessibility 
improvements will address a lot of this especially the fact that right now you 
have to swipe everywhere and can't find anything buy simply touching the 
screen. I also found that if you do what yiou describe and are not careful, you 
easily end up a the top again so if you have a number of speakers and lose your 
place you then have to start all over again with the gesture to go to the 
bottom and swipe 10 or 15 times to get one of your speakers near the top of the 
list etc.
I am definitely not updating my Sonos app on the iPhone until this gets a lot 
better, but you really have to be careful bvecause not just do you have to pay 
attention that you don't accidently or by habit tap on "Update All", but when I 
opened the old Sonos app last night I was also presented with a screen touting 
the new update and I had to dismiss it before I could use the app and the 
"Update" bvutton was right next to the "Dismiss" button so one can easily tap 
the wrong thing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Smith
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 4:19 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.

Hi Sieghard. I have found a couple of ways to do this. I guess the easiest way 
if you can call it that is to: When you open the Sonos app, do a 4 finger 
single tap on the bottom of the screen. Once you are at the bottom of the 
screen, start swiping back. Now because you are swiping back, You are going to 
see things related to the room before you see the name of the room itself. For 
example, when I start swiping back, I see something like  volume small. I then 
see what is playing Tim Mcgraw, live like you were dying. Swipe again and I see 
the play button. I keep swiping until I see the room name. If I know what room 
I’m in based on the song, I only swipe back until I hear speakers. If you 
double tap speakers, the app will then bring up a list of your rooms. You then 
swipe to the room you want to add. After the room name, It will say something 
like circlecheck. Double tap that and continue this until all rooms you want is 
selected. At the bottom there is an apply button. 
As I stated in my previous email, there is a lot of swiping required for this 
new app. This needs to be addressed by the Sonos team sooner rather than later. 
There are other accessibility issues that has to be fixed also. I guess my hope 
is that those who can use this app will do so. That way, issues can be found 
and reported to Sonos. If Sonos cares about all of their customers, including 
The blind community, They will hear us and fix these issues. I have over $7,000 
invested in Sonos products and growing. 

> On May 8, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, but how do you select a particular room or speaker to play 
> music on? I was able to access the system settings no problem, but I have had 
> little success selecting a particular room and then select for example my 
> Apple Music subscription to find a particular artist, album or playlist. I 
> actually don't even use Sonos all that much, my sighted wife does more, but 
> until I can reliably select where I want to play whatever music I want to 
> play, I won't update my iPhone.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 11:34 AM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Hi Sieghard. I also was able to check for a firmware update and found that 
> there was none. After playing around with the app, I was able to locate most 
> everything within the app. I certainly agree that the app needs some big 
> accessibility improvements. However, for me, I find it quite useable. I 
> originally updated the app on my iPad. Earlier today, I updated the app on my 
> iPhone 15 pro Max, running IOS 17.5 RC. You have to swipe quite a bit because 
> touching the screen does absolutely nothing. It tells me that true play is 
> off no matter how many times I tap to change the option. However, I know that 
> it is changing because I can hear the change in the sound from the speaker 
> that is playing. Also, My sighted wife says that the icon changes.  I hope 
> Sonos address the VoiceOver accessibility issues sooner rather than later. 
> But for me, The app is useable.
> 
>> On May 8, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Larry, I just replied to another message of Richard's, but just in case you 
>> didn't see o rread it entirely, it does not appear that this app update 
>> comes with a hardware update or requires one. I updated the Sonos app on our 
>> iPad last night and then did a manual check for updates in the new Sonos 

Re: Shortcuts, Running your automation

[Bobby Druesedow]

My choices when creating an automated shortcut are 
Run Immediately 
Run After Confirmation 
I don't find the option you are referring to. 
Any ideas? 
Thanks. 
Bobby Druesedow 

On May 9, 2024, at 2:35 AM, David Erich  wrote:

Yes there is a way to get that mestsage to go away. Right after the run 
immediately checkbox is a checkbox that says notify when run uncheck that box 
and Does annoying messages will go away
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2024, at 10:43, Bobby Druesedow  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> Is there a way to keep Voiceover from speaking the below when running an 
> automated shortcut? Here is what it says:
> Shortcuts, Running your automation
> I don't want it to speak at all. Thanks.
> 
> Bobby Druesedow
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RE: Question about iPhone case

[Rena]

I called otterbox, and indeed, they were very helpful. However, when I had to 
pay giving my credit card number to the system, it failed although I tried 
several times. I gried online, but every time I want to pay online I have the 
same problem: when I get to the payment information, I never find the edit 
field where to type. It seems that I have to open something that doesn’t open. 
I use Jaws. Is there any way to solve this problem?

In any case, I found the box in Best Buy and already bought it.

Thanks a lot to all that replied.

 

Rena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about iPhone case

 

Hi Rena,

 

Here's there direct phone number and URL. If you call them they are very very 
helpful.

 

1-855-688-7269


https://www.otterbox.com/


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool!  Go Dodgers!

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rena   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, May 06, 2024 12:08 PM

Subject: RE: Question about iPhone case

 

Yes, probably yes.

Do you know where else can I find it?

 

Rena

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Question about iPhone case

 

I believe it was called OtterBox. Thanks. Have a great day everyone. Best.

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

 

On May 6, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I bought the case from this company twice, but now I called an they don’t sell 
it anymore. I think the name was auto box, or something similar.

I don’t know where to buy something that protects the phone on both sides. Any 
idea?

 

Rena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 2:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Question about iPhone case

 

I don’t know if they sell cases, but could it have been ATGuys?

I believe that phone is identical in size and button configuration as the 
iPhone 8.  So a case for the 8, SE and SE 2022 should fit.

 

www.atguys.com  

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Question about iPhone case

 

Hello,

 

I just bought a new iPhone, SE2022 because my mother poured some sauerkraut on 
hers, so I gave her mine.

I want to have another case like the one I had, but I don’t remember where I 
bought  it. The name of the place was something like t-guide.

 

Rena

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Re: Sonos latest update.

[Larry Smith]

Hi Sieghard. I have found a couple of ways to do this. I guess the easiest way 
if you can call it that is to: When you open the Sonos app, do a 4 finger 
single tap on the bottom of the screen. Once you are at the bottom of the 
screen, start swiping back. Now because you are swiping back, You are going to 
see things related to the room before you see the name of the room itself. For 
example, when I start swiping back, I see something like  volume small. I then 
see what is playing Tim Mcgraw, live like you were dying. Swipe again and I see 
the play button. I keep swiping until I see the room name. If I know what room 
I’m in based on the song, I only swipe back until I hear speakers. If you 
double tap speakers, the app will then bring up a list of your rooms. You then 
swipe to the room you want to add. After the room name, It will say something 
like circlecheck. Double tap that and continue this until all rooms you want is 
selected. At the bottom there is an apply button. 
As I stated in my previous email, there is a lot of swiping required for this 
new app. This needs to be addressed by the Sonos team sooner rather than later. 
There are other accessibility issues that has to be fixed also. I guess my hope 
is that those who can use this app will do so. That way, issues can be found 
and reported to Sonos. If Sonos cares about all of their customers, including 
The blind community, They will hear us and fix these issues. I have over $7,000 
invested in Sonos products and growing. 

> On May 8, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, but how do you select a particular room or speaker to play 
> music on? I was able to access the system settings no problem, but I have had 
> little success selecting a particular room and then select for example my 
> Apple Music subscription to find a particular artist, album or playlist. I 
> actually don't even use Sonos all that much, my sighted wife does more, but 
> until I can reliably select where I want to play whatever music I want to 
> play, I won't update my iPhone.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 11:34 AM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Hi Sieghard. I also was able to check for a firmware update and found that 
> there was none. After playing around with the app, I was able to locate most 
> everything within the app. I certainly agree that the app needs some big 
> accessibility improvements. However, for me, I find it quite useable. I 
> originally updated the app on my iPad. Earlier today, I updated the app on my 
> iPhone 15 pro Max, running IOS 17.5 RC. You have to swipe quite a bit because 
> touching the screen does absolutely nothing. It tells me that true play is 
> off no matter how many times I tap to change the option. However, I know that 
> it is changing because I can hear the change in the sound from the speaker 
> that is playing. Also, My sighted wife says that the icon changes.  I hope 
> Sonos address the VoiceOver accessibility issues sooner rather than later. 
> But for me, The app is useable.
> 
>> On May 8, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Larry, I just replied to another message of Richard's, but just in case you 
>> didn't see o rread it entirely, it does not appear that this app update 
>> comes with a hardware update or requires one. I updated the Sonos app on our 
>> iPad last night and then did a manual check for updates in the new Sonos app 
>> and I was told that my system was up to date. This app update seems to be 
>> all about a new look and user interface and not about new capabilities of 
>> the system.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 1:29 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
>> 
>> Ok. I was just curious. I’m afraid to update the firmware.  
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did not update the firmware, unless it updated itself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Larry Smith
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 12:03 PM
>>> To: VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Sonos latest update.
>>> 
>>> Richard, did you update both Sonos firmware and software? I believe you 
>>> said that you did the update using your iPad. But did you also update the 
>>> firmware? I ask because after reading your email, I used my iPad to update 
>>> the app only. I was able to use the app with no real is

RE: Sonos latest update.

[chrisjudge1967]

Ok I have a question. How accessible is searching for and playing music? I know 
you need to play music through the app to enjoy Dolby atmos?

Chris Judge






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:34 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.

Hi Sieghard. I also was able to check for a firmware update and found that 
there was none. After playing around with the app, I was able to locate most 
everything within the app. I certainly agree that the app needs some big 
accessibility improvements. However, for me, I find it quite useable. I 
originally updated the app on my iPad. Earlier today, I updated the app on my 
iPhone 15 pro Max, running IOS 17.5 RC. You have to swipe quite a bit because 
touching the screen does absolutely nothing. It tells me that true play is off 
no matter how many times I tap to change the option. However, I know that it is 
changing because I can hear the change in the sound from the speaker that is 
playing. Also, My sighted wife says that the icon changes.  I hope Sonos 
address the VoiceOver accessibility issues sooner rather than later. But for 
me, The app is useable.

> On May 8, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Larry, I just replied to another message of Richard's, but just in case you 
> didn't see o rread it entirely, it does not appear that this app update comes 
> with a hardware update or requires one. I updated the Sonos app on our iPad 
> last night and then did a manual check for updates in the new Sonos app and I 
> was told that my system was up to date. This app update seems to be all about 
> a new look and user interface and not about new capabilities of the system.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 1:29 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Sonos latest update.
> 
> Ok. I was just curious. I’m afraid to update the firmware.  
> 
>> On May 7, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did not update the firmware, unless it updated itself.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 12:03 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Sonos latest update.
>> 
>> Richard, did you update both Sonos firmware and software? I believe you said 
>> that you did the update using your iPad. But did you also update the 
>> firmware? I ask because after reading your email, I used my iPad to update 
>> the app only. I was able to use the app with no real issues. I don’t know if 
>> things would be different if I updated the firmware. I did not per update 
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Re: Shortcuts, Running your automation

[David Erich]

Yes there is a way to get that mestsage to go away. Right after the run 
immediately checkbox is a checkbox that says notify when run uncheck that box 
and Does annoying messages will go away
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2024, at 10:43, Bobby Druesedow  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> Is there a way to keep Voiceover from speaking the below when running an 
> automated shortcut? Here is what it says:
> Shortcuts, Running your automation
> I don't want it to speak at all. Thanks.
> 
> Bobby Druesedow
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