Re: Signature suggestion

['Anthony Vece' via VIPhone]

Ok.Anthony USA.Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!On Sep 26, 2022, at 2:10 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
Greetings,I’m sending this note to all the lists I’m subscribed to.It dawned on me yesterday that with these lists being more and more international, it would be nice if folks put in their signature line what country they are in.  I’ve often answered a question only to find out later, that my answer did not help because the person was in a different country.So, I added USA after my name.   Richard, USA“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com礪 



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Re: The vagaries of updating.

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Carolyn; I found it, particularly most helpful to restart your phone a few times. That did not remove all the idiosyncrasies. However, the phone runs a lot smoother than it did.Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!On Sep 23, 2022, at 5:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:Well, I got 16, then 16.0.2. I got a phone call. How did I know? I found it in Notifications.  I asked my husband, did you hear my phone ring about half an hour ago. He did not. I did not. So we called from his phone, did not hear.  Bottom line: I went to Settings and Sounds and Haptics, and Ringer Volume was at 7%! So, I fixed that.  



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Re: mail weirdness since latest update.

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Hi Maria; this is why I try to use applications from Apple as much as possible. 
Apple does not support third-party apps.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 23, 2022, at 7:44 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
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> HI.
> i am really enjoying the latest update.  There is just one thing that’s 
> strange with my email. I have a gmail account with several folders and 
> messages filtered in to those folders. I also have messages that are not 
> filtered that go in to the main inbox. My mac, and iPod that are not updated 
> behave normally. I can see messages in the inbox etc.  When i go to the 
> inbox, on  my iphone SE 2022 however, I see  my messages that have been 
> filtered  in to other folders, But, when i go to the main inbox, I see there 
> is unread mail and the phone checks for email. It says it was updated after 
> quite a long time and then says no mail and the inbox is empty. It doesn’t 
> seem to download anything.
> I have tried rebooting the phone and the app, tried off loading mail and 
> reinstalling it, and have also tried deleting and re adding the account. Is 
> this a know issue? Is my phone just being weird?
> PS if i go to the in box on my iPod and mac, i see all the messages i am 
> supposed to see.
> 
> thanks in advance.
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Re: New voices iOS 16

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I am trying to find the eloquence voice called perfect Paul. When I use Jaws that’s the voice I always used. I can’t find it. Does anyone know where it is? Thank you.Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!On Sep 14, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:I am using the enhanced version of Tom.  It sounds a little muddy though.  I notice that some of the voices sound a little muddy even with the enhanced version.  Maybe things will clear up in a while.ddOn Sep 14, 2022, at 4:18 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:I have been looking forward to eloquence for a while now. I’ve been using it all day yesterday and I’m not sure I like it. It sounds kind of muddy. I’m using a 13 pro. Chris Judge From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christopher ChaltainSent: September 12, 2022 7:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: New voices iOS 16 Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes! --Christopher (AKA CJ)Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: New voices iOS 16 Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you were wondering.Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote: I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium version! --Christopher (AKA CJ)Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PMTo: ViPone list Subject: New voices iOS 16 I personally like the following new voices.Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.  Richard“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/69A98570-8ED6-474D-BF3D-6BAE8BC25193%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42968BA6C709741BE0584720C8449%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To 

Re: New voices iOS 16

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Does anyone know where I could find the eloquence voice called Perfect Paulin eloquence I used to use it religiously when I worked with Jaws. Thank you, Anthony.Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!On Sep 14, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:I am using the enhanced version of Tom.  It sounds a little muddy though.  I notice that some of the voices sound a little muddy even with the enhanced version.  Maybe things will clear up in a while.ddOn Sep 14, 2022, at 4:18 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:I have been looking forward to eloquence for a while now. I’ve been using it all day yesterday and I’m not sure I like it. It sounds kind of muddy. I’m using a 13 pro. Chris Judge From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christopher ChaltainSent: September 12, 2022 7:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: New voices iOS 16 Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes! --Christopher (AKA CJ)Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: New voices iOS 16 Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you were wondering.Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote: I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium version! --Christopher (AKA CJ)Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PMTo: ViPone list Subject: New voices iOS 16 I personally like the following new voices.Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.  Richard“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/69A98570-8ED6-474D-BF3D-6BAE8BC25193%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42968BA6C709741BE0584720C8449%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To 

Re: A concern about iPhone 12 and battery

[Anthony Vece]

I would take it to an Apple store and let them check it over.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 11:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> 
> Jim,
> Open settings, Battery and double tap battery health.
> If your battery is over 80% maximum capacity; Apple says you should be OK. 
> But from my experience if it shows your maximum capacity is under 85%, you 
> may want to take it to an Apple store and see about a battery replacement, 
> which should be under $70.
> Make an appointment of course before doing that.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:15 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
>>> 
>> Greetings,
>> I have noticed lately that the battery on my iPhone 12 seems to hold a 
>> charge for less period of time than before. I realize that I use my phone a 
>> lot, but it seems as though I have to charge it much more than before. I 
>> don’t use any new apps that would take up a lot of battery, and I close the 
>> apps that I frequently use. Also, I noticed that there are more times these 
>> days where my phone gets warm, we are as I don’t think I have noticed that 
>> before. There are times when it actually gets hot.
>> Should I be concerned with more charges, and the battery going down faster 
>> than before? Should I be concerned regarding the warmth or heat of my phone 
>> at times?
>> My iPhone is right at two years old. I got it October, 2020. I definitely 
>> qualify for an upgrade now, and I am wondering if this might be a sign to 
>> look at something new.
>> I am going on vacation next week, and I want my phone to behave and keep a 
>> battery charge for a while. I don’t want to go from 100% charge in the 
>> morning to less than 30% charge f five or six hours later, when the phone is 
>> hardly being used. This is not normal for me.
>> Any thoughts?
>> Jim  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12!
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Re: how close apps on the watch

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For what it’s worth, I just remove the apps from the dock. Go into the dock 
with the side button.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> 
> I don't think you can close apps on the watch in the same way as you can on 
> the iphone.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 7:28 AM
> To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
> Subject: how close apps on the watch
>  
> You can double press the home button on Iphones with a home button and get a 
> list of open apps. You can select any of these you wish and then do a 3 
> finger swipe up and close those apps. How can I close open apps on the watch?
> 
>  
> 
> I have looked through the apple watch user guide and have googled this topic 
> but can't find anything about this.  Is it even possible?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Anthony Vece]

I also have the Apple Watch latest edition of the SE. I find that there is no 
reason to upgrade from this particular watch.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
>> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event 
>> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and 
>> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could 
>> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings 
>> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or 
>> not.
>> T
>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving 
>> than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines 
>> I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's 
>> definitely an impressive watch.
>>  
>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't 
>> say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new 
>> iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before.
>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system 
>> and always-on display possible.
>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
>> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it 
>> was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, 
>> that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget 
>> that it is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. 
>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case 
>> (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while 
>> for Canada to get it).
>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are 
>> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) 
>> you may get help quicker.
>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will 
>> now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>>  
>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 
>> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend 
>> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind 
>> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via 
>> Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send 
>> text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated 
>> devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course 
>> also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody 
>> and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big 
>> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or 
>> Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine 
>> and none of these devices have an external antenna which during the 
>> presentation Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is 
>> definitely a good start and once again something new and innovative Apple 
>> has introduced and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so 
>> Android phones will be released which also have this. What surprised me was 
>> that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is 
>> probably the only way they can offer this for free and they also didn't say 
>> which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar.
>>  
>> Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it 
>> would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the 
>> LiDAR feature.
>> As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it 
>> doesn't have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I 
>> experience what Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be 
>> pregnant any time soon.
>> In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I 
>> can't refu

Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Anthony Vece]

I find that there is no reason to upgrade from the iPhone 13 Pro.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
> build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event 
> that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and 
> may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could 
> simply use it to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings 
> Thermo or other body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or 
> not.
> T
> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than 
> I currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I 
> might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's 
> definitely an impressive watch.
>  
> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say 
> it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new 
> iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before.
> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system 
> and always-on display possible.
> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
> satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was 
> going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that 
> ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget that it 
> is only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once 
> Canada is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple 
> New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for 
> Canada to get it).
> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are 
> driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) 
> you may get help quicker.
> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will 
> now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>  
> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 
> Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend 
> considerable time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind 
> the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also share your location via 
> Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send 
> text messages to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated 
> devices like Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course 
> also requires you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody 
> and receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big 
> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or 
> Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and 
> none of these devices have an external antenna which during the presentation 
> Apple hinted would be required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a 
> good start and once again something new and innovative Apple has introduced 
> and I would bet money on it that within the next year or so Android phones 
> will be released which also have this. What surprised me was that Apple seems 
> to have set u p their own centre for this, but that is probably the only way 
> they can offer this for free and they also didn't say which satellite network 
> they use for this, i.e. Iridium or Globalstar.
>  
> Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it 
> would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the 
> LiDAR feature.
> As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it doesn't 
> have blood oxygen or the new temperature sensor, but unless I experience what 
> Arnold Schwarzenegger did in "Junior" I doubt I'll be pregnant any time soon.
> In any case, I'll wait to see if my provider wants to offer me a deal I can't 
> refuse, Telus already sent me a message yesterday telling me that I am on 
> their priority list and will get a call in case I want to preorder the new 
> iPhone although even if I decide to upgrade I would probably rather buy it 
> outright.
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Re: Unable to delete a sms message.

[Anthony Vece]

I would call Apple accessibility at 877-204-3930

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 5:31 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I recently exchanged a number of messages with my brother who is an Android 
> user.
> 
> No longer needing to retain the conversation I deleted it in the usual way.
> 
> No matter what I do the most recent message I sent to him and the last in the 
> conversation remains on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> I have turned messages off in iCloud but I cannot delete this particular 
> message.
> 
> I have turned the device on and off but when I try to delete the message it 
> just will not go.
> 
> Not an enormous problem but somewhat irritating.
> 
> I can delete the message from my series 7 Apple Watch.
> 
> I have no idea why this particular message cannot be removed from my iPhone 
> it does not contain anything other than plain text.
> 
> As anyone experienced anything simular and if so did you resolve it and how?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code

[Anthony Vece]

Touch ID needs to be built into the device that you would like to use it on. It 
needs to be billed into the power button. Also the app that you want to use 
touch ID with needs to support touch ID.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> hi, everyone, this might be a silly question, but I was wondering if there 
> was a way of doing touch ID when there is no home button? Thanks a lot. I 
> hope you all have a good day. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> You have to remember that just as you described, the passcode is required 
>> when you turn  your phone off and back on. Each time you restart the phone 
>> you have to enter your passcode, the same goes if you try Touch I d and 
>> after a certain number of attempts it doesn't recognize your fingerprint, it 
>> will then ask for the passcode to authenticate and unlock the phone.
>> I don't know if  you turn your phone often, but really you shouldn't. 
>> iPhones are designed to be on all the time and the don't have to be shut 
>> down at all. From time to time you may end up having to turn it off and back 
>> on if you have strange issues or of course there could be a time when you 
>> simply run out of battery and the phone turns itself off, but I literally go 
>> weeks and sometimes months without turning my phone off and back on and the 
>> only time I have to put in my passcode is when for some reason Face Id isn't 
>> working a few times one attempt after another (same goes for Touch Id) or 
>> for some other strange reason. But typically I again often go days without 
>> having to enter my passcode manually.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Margaret Thomas
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:18 PM
>> To: V iPhone list 
>> Subject: Re: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>> 
>> It's been asking for the Pass Code for months now.
>> 
>> When I power up, it says Pass Code is required when phone starts up.  My 
>> memory is that it started asking for it after I had set use Touch ID on the 
>> App Store instead of Apple ID.  I turn on the phone much more than I get 
>> apps and had tried to change it to must use Apple ID on App Store in hopes 
>> of not being asked for the Pass Code to turn on the phone, but I still had 
>> to use the pass code.  I THINK I could use Touch ID the other day when I 
>> installed a free app from the App Store and did not have to type my Apple ID 
>> but it wasn't a good day and my memory may not be correct.
>> 
>> I don't want to get rid of the Pass Code entirely; having it helped with 
>> some mishap I had.  I just would prefer not to have to type it in every time 
>> I use the phone.
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>>> On 9/6/2022 11:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> If the phone is powered off you need to use that passcode the first time 
>>> you unlock it.  If not than you should be able to use touch ID.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Margaret Thomas
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:04 PM
>>> To: V iPhone list 
>>> Subject: Can I Use Touch ID Instead of Pass Code
>>> 
>>> Good Evening:
>>> 
>>> The recent Face ID hit or miss thread caught my interest since, like the 
>>> original poster, I have an iPhone SE 2020 and like Touch ID.
>>> 
>>> The SE2020 is my first smart phone and is my back up  with my land line 
>>> being my primary phone.  I have the cell powered off most of the time and 
>>> might power it on for texting or to check the weather app etc.  I have 
>>> Apple ID, Touch ID, and Pass Code set up and have purchased an app on the 
>>> App Store.  The way things are set up, I have to type in my pass code when 
>>> I power up.  I can usually do it correctly the first or second time so 
>>> typing it isn't the problem; I'd prefer to use Touch Id instead if 
>>> possible.  I am not in a work or school situation and my house does not 
>>> resemble Grand Central Station and I do not have a lot of personal 
>>> information on the cell.
>>> 
>>> The original post did say locked and not powered off.  When I first got the 
>>> cell and was trying to follow along with a tutorial, the phone kept saying 
>>> locked what sounded every 30 seconds and locked became a "dirty"
>>> word and I never investigated what it was good for.  I turned lock to 
>>> never.  I'm using the phone a little more now and would be willing to 
>>> change that if someone could explain why it would be good when I use the 
>>> phone so little.  I'd greatly appreciate knowing if I can keep the pass 
>>> code for when I needed it for other things and could use Touch ID when 
>>> powering on.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500  SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject: Face ID hit or miss
>>> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:14:54 -0500
>>> From: 

Re: Face ID hit or miss

[Anthony Vece]

I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first few days or so 
it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This is so that 
everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you receivedmake 
sense. Keep us posted.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> A couple of things to try:
> * Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight out in front of 
> you.
> * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
> * If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it again.
> * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. Sometimes, skin oils 
> can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your ear while on a call.
> * Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to enter your pin 
> again.
> 
> If none of these things help, I would probably go back to where you bought 
> it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have 
>> set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or 
>> three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. 
>> I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much 
>> easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my 
>> mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. 
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Lanyard for an iPhone 13 pro?

[Anthony Vece]

Either way would be good.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Aug 30, 2022, at 6:34 PM, Richard Turner  
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> Do you want it to be landscaped or portrait?
> I do not know of one off hand, but my wife is great at 'researching these 
> things.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
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> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2022, at 1:01 PM, Donald Breda  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hello listers,
>> 
>> 
>> I purchased a lanyard from amazon which is supposed to fit most phones 
>> iPhones included.
>> 
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 13 pro and this lanyard will not work for it.
>> 
>> 
>> I need a lanyard that leaves the rear cameras totally exposed.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone have any recommendations?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Don
>> 
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Re: Lanyard for an iPhone 13 pro?

[Anthony Vece]

Hey Don; I don’t have any recommendations however when you find out one would 
you please let me know? Thanks Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Aug 30, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Donald Breda  wrote:
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> Hello listers,
> 
> 
> I purchased a lanyard from amazon which is supposed to fit most phones 
> iPhones included.
> 
> 
> I have an iPhone 13 pro and this lanyard will not work for it.
> 
> 
> I need a lanyard that leaves the rear cameras totally exposed.
> 
> 
> Anyone have any recommendations?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
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Re: is there a way?

[Anthony Vece]

Anna, there is a setting to change VoiceOver. It’s in Accessibility. Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Aug 22, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> It has been a while since I have had to do this, but I think I remember that 
> Apple Accessibility can log onto a phone and see what is on the screen, they 
> can not manipulate that screen. The person getting help has to do the screen 
> manipulation, but Apple Accessibility can tell them what to do and how to do 
> it. It is not the same as their being able to do a tandem with the person, 
> but maybe half way. Or, maybe I don't remember this as well as I think I do.  
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Aug 22, 2022, at 12:32 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> You’re right; I talked to someone this morning, and I couldn’t hear 
> VoiceOVer. I think there may be a setting buried somewhere that changes this 
> behavior; it might be worth checking with Apple Accessibility if it’s not 
> possible for the person to call on a different phone.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> As far as my experience goes, one cannot hear Voiceover unless using another 
>> phone, which I do when talking to Apple Accessibility; they can hear 
>> Voiceover then. Otherwise a caller can't. Sometimes, while talking to 
>> someone, I'll go in and check weather or texts messages, etc. They cannot 
>> hear it when I do that. I have gotten other phone numbers for people, and 
>> they cannot hear Voiceover. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: is there a way?
>> 
>> Anna,
>> 
>> Has something changed?  The microphone never used to pick up what VoiceOver 
>> was saying while I was on a phone call and I thought if that is the case 
>> anyway, the person being helped might be able to concentrate more with the 
>> earphones…
>> 
>> But if VoiceOver comes through on the phone, that would be ideal.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com  
>> 
>> 礪
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 6:57 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: is there a way?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would suggest that your friend not use headphones. That way, you could 
>> hear VoiceOver as they work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Aug 22, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Richard Turner >  > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   If the iPhone is their only phone; you still could simply call him.
>> 
>>   I'd recommend he use earphones, but you could tell him things to do; and 
>> he could try them while on the call with you. The downside is you won't hear 
>> what his VoiceOver is saying, but he could report to you what it says. This 
>> will be tedious, but can be done.
>> 
>>   I've also heard that Teamviewer quick support can be used; but he would 
>> have to be able to download the app, etc; which sounds unlikely at this 
>> point.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Richard
>> 
>>   “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> 
>>   My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Aug 22, 2022, at 4:03 AM, Chris Chaffin >  > wrote:
>> 
>>   Just a thought.  Have you considered trying to use Screen Recording 
>> to record little sessions and then sending them to your friend?  
>> BlindAbilities just did a podcast on how to use the screen recording 
>> feature.  I would recommend giving it a listen to see if it is something you 
>> could use.  Here is the link.
>> 
>>   Check out episode: iPhone101: A Deeper Dive - Screen Recording on the 
>> iPhone and other iDevices - It's not just for Videos. @BlindAbilities
>>   https://blindabilities.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Aug 22, 2022, at 2:57 AM, Curtis Delzer >  > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   My friend just got a new iPhone and sure needs help!  Is there a 
>> way to set up a session where I could walk him through stuff like JFW tandem?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   thanks
>> 
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Re: Hay Siri.

[Anthony Vece]

If I can help you further, please let me know. God bless

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Aug 15, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> That is it, with update, mine got off. I wish updates would not tamper with 
> settings. One time, it had me off the Net. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Karen Poulakos
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 3:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Hay Siri.
> 
> If you go into Settings, are you able to find "Siri and Search?"
> If you tap on that, At the top of the page there is a heading "Ask Siri".
> Under that is Listen For Hey Siri".  
> 
> I have mine set to off.  you probably want yours on.
> 
> Karen P
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Hay Siri.
> 
> I went into Settings and tried to find where to get it back, could not find 
> Hay Siri. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 10:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hay Siri.
> 
> Maybe it was turned off accidentally.
> 
>> On 8/15/22, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> It also works for me on my 13 promax.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
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>>> On Aug 15, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Kimberly Gardner 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hmm, that's weird. It still works for me on an SE 3rd gen running 
>>> iOS15.6.
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
 On 8/15/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
 Hay Siri seems to be gone, and I could not even reinstall it in the 
 Siri app. Must be some kind of update annoyance?
 
 
 
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Re: Hay Siri.

[Anthony Vece]

Call Apple Accessibility 

However, do not call them from the phone you’re trying to establish hey Siri 
with. 877-204-3930 Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I went into Settings and tried to find where to get it back, could not find 
> Hay Siri. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: Hay Siri.
> 
> Maybe it was turned off accidentally.
> 
>> On 8/15/22, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> It also works for me on my 13 promax.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
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>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, that's weird. It still works for me on an SE 3rd gen running 
>>> iOS15.6.
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
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Re: list issues

[Anthony Vece]

Sarai;

I am receiving your messages just fine.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Jul 17, 2022, at 10:17 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
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> 
> I did get his just fine.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 9:01 PM
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>  
> Yes replies only. Have no idea why. Hope someone actually sees this.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: list issues
>  
> Since you sent this message to the list, I’m assuming this only happens when 
> you’re replying to a list. Is this correct? The only thing I can think of 
> then is that maybe you’re doing a reply to all, and a list you don’t have 
> permission to post to is in the to field since the original message went to 
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Re: Making an App more accessible

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Terri; tell us what app you are trying to make more accessible please? Also 
you can go through Twitter. A lot of developers I have found respond to 
Twitter. and Explain in layman‘s terms what you are trying to do and you should 
get a response. Thank you Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Jul 10, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
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> I wish you luck in getting the developer to help, some of them care more 
> than others. In the meantime, what is the app? Perhaps somebody on this list 
> can give you sugestions to make it work better. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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> On Jul 10, 2022, at 7:12 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> What are some of the best ways to reach out to an App developer, about making 
> their App more accessible?
> 
> 
> I haven't ever attempted to do this sort of thing. I don't have a lot of 
> confidence in doing such a thing. But there is an App I would like to be able 
> to use. It is somewhat accessible.
> 
> 
> However, there are areas that could really use some improvements. I would 
> like to reach out to the developer and share my concerns. Also, what I think 
> needs to be worked on.
> 
> 
> But it is very important to me to state what I am needing/wanting, without 
> being ugly. Or with just saying something like, this isn't working for me. 
> Sometimes though, I can find it difficult to express why it might not work, 
> or what changes might need to be made.
> 
> 
> Could anyone who has much more experience with doing such things, please give 
> me some pointers?
> 
> 
> I would really appreciate this.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: An Accessible Chordless Phone

[Anthony Vece]

I have a set of AT phones.

 

You will need to get sighted assistance to get the menus going.

 

After you get the menus set up then, the phone itself is pretty much accessible.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Accessible Chordless Phone

 

Hello List,

 

Can anyone recommend a chordless phone that is accessible? I have a friend who 
needs a phone that is just about 100% accessible, if there is such a thing. 

 

Thanks.

 

Noe

 

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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Anthony Vece]

Yesterday I spoke with apple accessibility and, they told me it there is a bug 
in the messaging app for the watch. They are working on it and they are working 
to correct it.  

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I saw that too, but after playing around with that mirror my iPhone toggle, 
> it just refers to mirroring your message notification settings and not the 
> messages themselves.
> 
> --
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barry 
> Abbott
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
> watch or on the phone?
> 
> I checked my Apple Watch settings and I have messages set to mirror my 
> iPhone. This would lead me to believe that when you delete a message from 
> your iPhone it should delete that message from your watch but no, this does 
> not work. I even went into the settings on my watch and although I could see 
> other apps for some reason I could not see the messages app.
> 
> Very strange!
> 
> Sent from Barry Abbott’s iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable to 
>> find that setting. Thank you in advance
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>> 
>>>> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
>>> To: via VIPhone ; watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
>>> Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the 
>>> watch or on the phone?
>>> 
>>> I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw 
>>> WWDC Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing said 
>>> about this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about stuff 
>>> Apple didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be 
>>> extremely annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone 
>>> and who gets messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations 
>>> not just once on whichever device you used to read it initially, but again, 
>>> on your other device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get boatloads 
>>> of texts every day like some people do. Am I missing something? Surely, 
>>> there should be a way where if you delete something on one of your devices 
>>> such as a text message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems 
>>> elementary.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch or on the phone?

[Anthony Vece]

How do you enable iCloud syncing for messaging on the watch? I am unable to 
find that setting. Thank you in advance

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 12:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you enabled iCloud syncing for messages on both devices?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:31 PM
> To: via VIPhone ; watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
> Subject: Why don’t messages delete everywhere if you delete them on the watch 
> or on the phone?
> 
> I’m pretty sure I have asked this question before, but since we just saw WWDC 
> Keynote and all the other stuff, and there was absolutely nothing said about 
> this in either the Keynote or all the little articles about stuff Apple 
> didn’t mention, I just wonder. I would think that it would be extremely 
> annoying for pretty much everybody who has a Watch and a phone and who gets 
> messages on both devices, to have to delete all conversations not just once 
> on whichever device you used to read it initially, but again, on your other 
> device. I know it’s annoying to me, and I don’t get boatloads of texts every 
> day like some people do. Am I missing something? Surely, there should be a 
> way where if you delete something on one of your devices such as a text 
> message, it goes away everywhere else.  That seems elementary.
> 
> 
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Re: Icloud

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Barbara; it could be a little tricky. Call Apple Accessibility and they will 
guide you through it. Believe me, it’s a lot easier.
 877-204-3930
Take care 
Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there a way to delete stuff out of your iCloud account or drive I keep 
> getting notifications that my iCloud Drive is almost full and mostly what it 
> is full of is back ups so how do I get rid of the older backups from years ago
> 
>>> On May 29, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Alison, 
>> 
>> In order to check how you're using iCloud storage, with your iPhone, go to 
>> Settings, Apple ID, iCloud, and Manage storage. It will show you what apps 
>> are using how much storage and will also give you the option to sign up for 
>> more than the free 5GB amount. 
>> 
>> Good luck sorting your music out. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 29, 2022, at 8:57 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> I suspect it is my music which is taking up the space as I have very few 
>>> photos and only have one book via Audible and another via the RNIB 
>>> Easyreader currently on the iPhone.
>>> But in my effort to reduce the amount of music on my Iphone, I currently 
>>> have a disaster which I’m hoping my husband can sort out as I have lost the 
>>> 5,000 plus songs in my Itunes Library on the computer!
>>> I don’t even know how to access the Icloud via my computer.
>>> Alison
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: 29 May 2022 14:01
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Icloud
>>>  
>>> The only things which count against your iCloud space are things you 
>>> create. Music and books you get from Apple using their apps don't count 
>>> against your iCloud space. The same is true of movies or TV shows you might 
>>> purchase. You create photos and documents so they take up iCloud space. 
>>> Ebooks and other goods you purchase from alternative sources will count 
>>> against your iCloud space presuming the apps you use back up to iCloud. 
>>> Therefore, any books you have in Voice Dream REader will take up iCloud 
>>> space.
>>>  
>>> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:24 AM Donna Casteen  
>>> wrote:
>>> Go into the music app, photos app, any downloaded books app & delete some 
>>> of them. These are the biggest space consuming apps. Delete any apps that 
>>> you don't use. I pay $0.99 for an extra 50 gigs of storage per month.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > On my new SE iPhone today I got a message that my iCloud wasfull and it 
>>> > was unable to back up my data and offering me different packages to 
>>> > upgrade. How can I reduce what is in my iCloud or must I go for the 
>>> > upgrade?
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
>>> > 0777 315 8181
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Re: Siri and text messaging

[Anthony Vece]

I am having the same problem. I use short sentences in my messages. When it 
cuts off I just send another sentence in another message.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!

> On May 12, 2022, at 10:27 PM, 'cwc' via VIPhone  
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> When my wife uses Siri to send a message, it cuts off before she can finish 
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Re: what to choose

[Anthony Vece]

Thank you

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 23, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I have the revolve+ speaker.  Although, I'd like to get a soundflex
> speaker.  They cost $150.
> 
>> On 3/23/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> Which Bose speaker do you have?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Vicky Collins 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder how much difference the 2X2 MIMO in the SE versus the 4X4 MIMO in
>>> the 13s makes? I’m thinking the mmWav 5G not being in the SE wouldn’t make
>>> a difference to most people right now.
>>> I certainly don’t need another iPhone, but I considered buying the new SE
>>> anyway. For while I can handle Face ID without too much trouble most of
>>> the time in the day and the evening, I find myself switching back to my SE
>>> 2020 when I go to bed at night. I often wake up in the middle of the night
>>> and want to check something on my phone, but I just can’t seem to get the
>>> Face ID to work when I’m in the bed like that and I get tired of entering
>>> the passcode all the time.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>> 
>>> From: Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: what to choose
>>> 
>>> Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang for
>>> your money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would be
>>> from the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in
>>> 2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have the
>>> iPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I plan
>>> on transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a great
>>> sounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storage
>>> level for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>> Richard,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and
>>>> 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall
>>>> smaller form factor.
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>> Richard Turner 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: RE: what to choose
>>>> 
>>>> The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.
>>>> 
>>>> 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.
>>>> 
>>>> I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same
>>>> size
>>>> either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone
>>>> 8,
>>>> and 7.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Johna
>>>> Gravitt
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: what to choose
>>>> 
>>>> Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?
>>>> 
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Re: playing voice mails on speaker

[Anthony Vece]

I’ve tried that and, it doesn’t work.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 23, 2022, at 6:45 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Try saying to Siri, “play my voice mail on speaker.”
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Marty  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 8 running IOS 15.1 and I can't seem to get my voice mail 
>> messages to play through the speaker instead of the ear top speaker.  Any 
>> ideas?
>> 
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>> Marty Hutchings
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Re: what to choose

[Anthony Vece]

Which Bose speaker do you have?

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 23, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder how much difference the 2X2 MIMO in the SE versus the 4X4 MIMO in 
> the 13s makes? I’m thinking the mmWav 5G not being in the SE wouldn’t make a 
> difference to most people right now.
> I certainly don’t need another iPhone, but I considered buying the new SE 
> anyway. For while I can handle Face ID without too much trouble most of the 
> time in the day and the evening, I find myself switching back to my SE 2020 
> when I go to bed at night. I often wake up in the middle of the night and 
> want to check something on my phone, but I just can’t seem to get the Face ID 
> to work when I’m in the bed like that and I get tired of entering the 
> passcode all the time.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> From: Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what to choose
>  
> Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang for
> your money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would be
> from the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in
> 2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have the
> iPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I plan
> on transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a great
> sounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storage
> level for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.
>  
>  
> Kelly
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> > Richard,
> > 
> > Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and
> > 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall
> > smaller form factor.
> > 
> > Alan Lemly
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> > Richard Turner 
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: RE: what to choose
> > 
> > The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.
> > 
> > 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.
> > 
> > I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same size
> > either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone 8,
> > and 7.
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna
> > Gravitt
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: what to choose
> > 
> > Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?
> > 
> > 
> > TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
> >   Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with
> > disabilities, access job openings at:
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> > https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia
> > Struve
> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: what to choose
> > 
> > Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion
> > of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the
> > battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.
> > 
> > Lelia
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a
> >> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone.
> >> That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or
> >> 3.
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> >> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: what to choose
> >> 
> >> Hi Alison,
> >> 
> >> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS.
> >> 
> >> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those
> >> models are at the top of the price chain.
> >> 
> >> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home
> >> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button
> 

Re: Charging My New iPhone 13 Pro Max

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Esther;
I usually charge my iPhone 12 PRO anywhere between 90 and 100%.  Their is no 
problen.  Hope this helps Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 22, 2022, at 8:43 PM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Everyone,
> 
> Is it safe to charge my iPhone 13 Pro Max to 100% or perhaps close to it?
> 
> Just thought I'd ask.
> 
> Thanks, and hope all of you are doing well.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
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Re: Orbit Writer

[Anthony Vece]

Try turning voiceover on and off, maybe that will help.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 22, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For some reason, I can't get the Orbt writer to tell me what I am 
> backspacing. I may toy turning my settings to words or something to see if 
> that works, but for now, I can't tell what I'm writing.
> 
> jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 2:16 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My Orbit Writer does announce what I'm deleting when I backspace. I can't 
>> track down a setting that would change this though. I will say though that 
>> if you're using contracted braille then the Orbit Writer will get confused 
>> when you start backspacing. You can avoid this by using uncontracted braille 
>> or switching to the on screen keyboard to do your deleting.
>> 
>> I was also just looking through my Orbit Writer documentation, and another 
>> misconception I'd like to clear up is that you can connect your Orbit Writer 
>> through the braille support in VoiceOver, but you can also connect it as a 
>> keyboard through the Bluetooth settings. I don't do this myself, but I know 
>> some expressed a concern about having to go through the VoiceOver settings 
>> to pair the Orbit Writer. Obvoiusly, if you skip VoiceOver then you'll be 
>> losing out on functionality you only get through VoiceOver.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Brandon A. Olivares
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 4:06 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
>> 
>> Please let me know about the backspace thing, as I'd think that could get 
>> annoying.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
 On Mar 2, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, I'll have to take a look, but I'd think this could be changed in IOS's 
>>> keyboard or braille settings.
>>> 
>>> I too love my Orbit Writer. I like the fact that I can pair it to multiple 
>>> devise and then switch between them. The only thing I thought was a 
>>> challenge, and this isn't the fault of the device itself, is all of the 
>>> keyboard commands I tried to learn to replace any on screen gesture I might 
>>> use. There's just a lot of them and there's only so much Apple and Orbit 
>>> can do to make them intuitive.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 10:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
>>> 
>>> The only thing I did not like about the Writer is that when i backspaced 
>>> something, it would not tell me what i was deleting. Other than that, I 
>>> love it!
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
> On Mar 2, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've been seeing discussion of the Orbit Reader on the list. This prompted 
 me to look up the product as I had never heard of it before.
 
 That's when I discovered the Orbit Writer. I'm wondering if anyone here 
 has used it and what your impression of it is? I don't care as much right 
 now about having a braille display, but having an easier way to write in 
 braille would be useful. Any input or tips would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Brandon
 
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Re: HomePods yet again are screwed up after an update

[Anthony Vece]

They probably needed to be reset.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 16, 2022, at 3:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I ended up unplugging the HomePods for a few minutes and plugging them 
> back in. At first, it didn’t make any difference. But then I just left them 
> alone for like a half hour. And when I came back, everything was working. 
> Don’t ask me why. I just wish that every time I get an update everything 
> wouldn’t break with these HomePod.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 7:43 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I have updated my HomePods and am not experiencing any of the problems that 
>> you mentioned.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 14, 2022, at 6:06 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have updated my HomePods to 15.4, my iPhone 15.4, and my Apple TV to 
>>> whatever that number is. Having done all that, my HomePods do not work. 
>>> Siri talks, but that’s it. I cannot get Apple Music to play using Siri. My 
>>> Apple TV does not play through the HomePods. And I can’t even get a song 
>>> playing on my phone to handoff to HomePod. I get an error saying that 
>>> AirPlay couldn’t do it. This is the worst they have ever been. I have 
>>> restarted them. Nothing is working. I really like the homePod, but it just 
>>> seems like every time there is an update everything breaks. Is anybody else 
>>> having this problem and have you found a fix? 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Ipod question.

[Anthony Vece]

Yes to both questions.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 16, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Barbara Stahl  
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> 
> Hi list. 
> So I am considering purchasing an ipod. I thought it might save my phone's 
> battery life because my audiobook apps and music apps seem to run my battery 
> down  quickly. 
> So I was wondering, will apps such as audible, the library audiobooks apps, 
> bard, and amazon music and pandora work on an ipod? If so are they as 
> accessible and easy to use on the ipod as upposed to the iphone?  
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Re: Headphones for iPhones

[Anthony Vece]

Yes, they will.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 16, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> As far as I know, all new iPhones have the lightning port. I have an iPhone 
> XS and that's what it has.
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Alison May  wrote:
>> 
>> I have just purchased two headphones for my iPhone 6 Se, only  to discover 
>> that they have lightning  connectors and not the standard connectors.  I am 
>> considering upgrading my iPhone. Will these new lightning connectors be 
>> compatible with the new iPhone or should I just return them?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Anthony Vece]

I’m glad!
We are all here to help each other.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Alan, and every one else, 
> Yes, the attention switch is off. 
> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have been 
> able to open the iPhone in the dark! 
> Thanks to every one for their advice, 
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Chuck,
>>  
>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to require 
>> attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This should have been 
>> off by default if you initially set up your iPhone 13 Mini with Voiceover 
>> running. I haven’t heard that this setting affects face ID recognition in 
>> the dark but it certainly makes face ID much easier for the visually 
>> impaired.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
>> Dean
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at least 
>> three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I need to 
>> rescan my face
>> 
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck;
>>  
>> That is absolutely not true.
>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>  
>> Anthony
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
>> dark in the room.
>>  
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>> 
>> 
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>> 
>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>> 
>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck,
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>> mine.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Alan
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>> Dean
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>  
>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>  
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>> <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>> another iPhone?
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>  
>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>  
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

[Anthony Vece]

Chuck;

That is absolutely not true.
I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.

Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work when it’s 
> dark in the room.
> 
> Chuck  (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
> 
> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
> 
> Our 1961 Vespa 400
> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>> 
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve enjoyed
>>> mine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck
>>> Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>> 
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running perfectly!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> 
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net
>>>  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has an
>>> Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed. If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I do not
>>> have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, but was so
>>> uncertain about the message. I guess it only says delivered, when it goes to
>>> another iPhone?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
>>> Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in my
>>> years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>> 
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch ID is
>>> not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used phones with
>>> both types of biometric identification, face ID works much better than touch
>>> ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is working well
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean >>  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>   Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a newer
>>> iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific place for scanning
>>> the fingerprint?
>>>   I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer to use
>>> a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>   Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Chuck  (mobile)
>>>   Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Our 1961 Vespa 400 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Home screen.

[Anthony Vece]

Chris;
I couldn’t have explained it any better.
Take care
Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m not sure this will help, and I’m sure others can do a better job of 
> explaining this than me, but try the following.
>  
> First, to move an object around on the home screen, you need to go into edit 
> mode. You can do this by flick down on any object on the screen until you 
> hear edit and then you double tap. You’re now in edit mode. Next, you find 
> the object you want to move, like the Mail app, and flick down until you hear 
> something like “Drag Mail app” and then double tap. You’re now dragging the 
> Mail app around the screen. Now you can move around your home screens like 
> you normally would and when you get to where you want to place the Mail app, 
> you flick down until you hear options like “Drop before” or “Drop after”. Now 
> you double tap and the Mail app will be moved.
>  
> In your case, I’d suggest clearing out the dock of the apps you don’t want in 
> the dock by moving them to somewhere else on the home page. Once that’s done, 
> you can then start moving and rearranging the apps in your dock. Note that 
> you can drag multiple objects around, by just finding them and flicking down 
> until you hear “Add to drag”, which is good if you’re creating a folder or 
> moving a bunch of apps to a new  home page. Good luck, and I hope this helps 
> at least a bit.
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
> Bomareto
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 7:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Home screen.
>  
> Can someone tell me how to get mail back so for example Clock is at the very 
> far right then messages then mail and then the last one with the far left his 
> phone. That’s originally how those were organized on the home screen so I 
> want to get it back to the way it was. It’s not on the home screen meaning 
> the mail I have to flick through the different apps hope I’m making sense. 
> Your help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
> Jenny Bomareto
> 
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Re: which apple watch to choose?

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Dan;
The Apple Watch Series SE without GPS will do exactly what you need it to do.
73 De Anthony W2AJV

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 9:46 AM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am considering purchasing an apple watch.  I am very unfamiliar with them 
> though as far as which watch has which features.  I looked at some of them on 
> a google search but really can't tell which might fit my needs.  If anyone 
> could help me understand the features I'd sure appreciate it.  My needs are 
> below:
> 
> 
> 
> I want to be able to tell the time with out the watch speaking it in some 
> situations.
> 
> I do not really think i need it to communicate via cell signals since I won't 
> be using it for calls when I do not have my phone with me.  The times when I 
> don't have my phone with me will be times when I do not want phone calls to 
> come through.
> 
> I definitely want it to work with VoiceOver.
> 
> I want to be able to handle texts, emails, phone calls etc when I am also 
> carrying my phone with me.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope this is sufficient details.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Is Siri the problem?

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Marie and everyone; I am experiencing the same issue. It just doesn’t make 
sense. Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Mar 5, 2022, at 7:34 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> I keep having Siri not placing calls. I then have to go into contacts and 
> look the person up and double tap their number. I have sufficient wifi when 
> this happens, so I can’t see the reason for it.
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> 
>> Are most of us having issues with Siri during the last couple of IOS 
>> updates?  If dictating a message, Siri is so low in volume that Ican’t hear 
>> it repeating the message back to me.  Also Siri rarely gets the dictation 
>> correct.  Also sometimes I cannot turn the volume up on the Home Screen. 
>>  Siri issues
>> If I turn blue tooth off that sometimes fixes the problem.  Just wondering 
>> if this is a known issue.  Thanks. much.
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Re: Deleting drafts in Mail app

[Anthony Vece]

Karen; open each draft and send it to yourself. When you receive it just delete 
it as though you were deleting any other message. Hope this helps Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

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> I am using an older iPhone SE, the Mail app which came on the phone.  I have
> 3 drafts I can't seem to find a way to delete.  Whenever I open that app to
> a list of messages, There is a message at the bottom of the screen that
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> Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Changing voicemail greeting so that callers don't hear VoiceOver saying "stop" when I finish recording

[Anthony Vece]

Sometimes the solutions that are simplest work well.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 3, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
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> Using earbuds solved my problem. 
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Jan 3, 2022 2:07 PM, Anthony Vece  
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>> First of all whether your sister is visually impaired or cited should not 
>> even be a factor. The easiest way to block voiceover out of your voicemail 
>> greeting is to use your earphones onyour iPhone and go through the steps. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!! 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 3:03 PM, joseph hudson  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Oh wow how silly, I said the easiest way to avoid this, is to dial your 
>>> phone number and record your greeting that way. Keep in mind you will need 
>>> to know the password. So you can reset this under settings/phone. 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 10:31 AM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> My sighted sister is actually trying to pick a fight with me over this. 
>>>> How can I record a voicemail greeting on my iPhone 8 and not have 
>>>> VoiceOver say "stop" when I finish recording? For the sake of my sanity, 
>>>> please help. Thank you. 
>>>> 
>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.com 
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Re: Changing voicemail greeting so that callers don't hear VoiceOver saying "stop" when I finish recording

[Anthony Vece]

First of all whether your sister is visually impaired or cited should not even 
be a factor. The easiest way to block voiceover out of your voicemail greeting 
is to use your earphones onyour iPhone and go through the steps.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 3, 2022, at 3:03 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Oh wow how silly, I said the easiest way to avoid this, is to dial your 
> phone number and record your greeting that way. Keep in mind you will need to 
> know the password. So you can reset this under settings/phone.
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 10:31 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
>> 
>> My sighted sister is actually trying to pick a fight with me over this. How 
>> can I record a voicemail greeting on my iPhone 8 and not have VoiceOver say 
>> "stop" when I finish recording? For the sake of my sanity, please help. 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Kathy Blackburn
>> kblac...@austin.rr.com
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Anthony Vece]

Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
Happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
> updates for a while.
> 
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> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
> buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
> know I'd be replacing them by now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
> them by.
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> 
>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>> in or something.
>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
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>>> lsx?web=1>
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Richard; as you may or may not know I have the upmost respect for you. I enjoy 
reading your post as well as other people‘s posts. I’ve learned a lot from you 
byreading your posts and I would never insult you or do anything that would 
hurt you. We all have to lift up one another and help one another. Take care 
God bless Anthony 

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anthony,
> Thanks for clearing that up.
> In the future be sure to state you are kidding somewhere in your message, or 
> indeed, your reputation will go into the toilet.
>  
> And, I know I need no one’s permission, I’m a stubborn/independent sole. 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
> to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on 
> contributing to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my 
> reputation so Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need 
> my permission or anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
> one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>  
> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
> their time.
>  
> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
> things in which I am interested.
>  
> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
> working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
> because the technology is so much better now.
>  
> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
> wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
> well spent.
>  
> Richard
> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on contributing 
to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my reputation so 
Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need my permission or 
anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message 
>> about one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>>  
>> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
>> their time.
>>  
>> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
>> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
>> things in which I am interested.
>>  
>> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I 
>> was working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good 
>> thing, because the technology is so much better now.
>>  
>> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that 
>> I wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time 
>> very well spent.
>>  
>> Richard
>> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
>> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

And, I was writing tongue and check.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Correct
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
>> errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course 
>> some people may sleep and eat a lot 
>> Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard 
>> felt his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>  
>> I agree Gordan.
>>  
>> I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot. 
>> He is completely wrong.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>  
>> Totally uncalled for.
>>  
>> On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
>> > Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
>> > that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. 
>> > I mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around 
>> > the house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much 
>> > time on their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or 
>> > later you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from 
>> > other people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the 
>> > iPhone. Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> > 
>> >> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
>> >> 
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> >> Richard Turner
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>> >> 
>> >> Greetings,
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> >> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I 
>> >> got to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> >> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
>> >> 
>> >> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> >> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it 
>> >> spiral bound.
>> >> 
>> >> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, 
>> >> Voice Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> >> choice.
>> >> 
>> >> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book 
>> >> spiral bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing 
>> >> pages at once.
>> >> 
>> >> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> >> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image 
>> >> button, positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of 
>> >> the stand, with a single page facing up.
>> >> 
>> >> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> >> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> >> and repeated.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice 
>> >> Dream Reader, 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Correct

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
> errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course some 
> people may sleep and eat a lot 
> Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard 
> felt his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> I agree Gordan.
>  
> I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot. 
> He is completely wrong.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> Totally uncalled for.
>  
> On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> > Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> > that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> > mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> > house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time 
> > on their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> > you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> > people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> > Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> > 
> >> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> >> Richard Turner
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
> >> 
> >> Greetings,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
> >> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
> >> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
> >> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
> >> 
> >> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
> >> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
> >> bound.
> >> 
> >> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, 
> >> Voice Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
> >> choice.
> >> 
> >> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book 
> >> spiral bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing 
> >> pages at once.
> >> 
> >> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
> >> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image 
> >> button, positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of 
> >> the stand, with a single page facing up.
> >> 
> >> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
> >> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
> >> and repeated.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice 
> >> Dream Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
> >> 
> >> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
> >> 
> >> The scanning results are quite excellent.
> >> 
> >> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
> >> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles 
> >> and scattered which

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job that 
you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I mean I 
have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the house. I 
can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on their hands 
glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later you’re going to 
need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other people it’s just 
truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. Sit back relax and 
enjoy life. Anthony 

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> 
> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to 
> the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” 
> by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.  
> 
> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
> bound.
> 
> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
> 
> 
> 
> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
> choice.
> 
> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
> 
> 
> 
> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once. 
>  
> 
> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
> with a single page facing up.
> 
> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
> repeated.
> 
> 
> 
> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
> 
> 
> 
> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
> 
> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
> 
> The scanning results are quite excellent.
> 
> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
> 
> 
> 
> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
> fictional that would be rendered fic- 
> 
> tional.
> 
> Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
> pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.
> 
> That is damn good in my book.
> 
> Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
> the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages 
> of content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.
> 
> I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
> update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
> when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.
> 
> 
> 
> For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having 
> this done about 43 years ago.
> 
> I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
> Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
> inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.
> 
> So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back 
> binding, and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.
> 
> It wasbrilliant!
> 
> Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, 
> has been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they 
> would lie flat on the piano. 
> 
> Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
> binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.
> 
> I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.
> 
> They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.
> 
> Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.
> 
> 
> 
> You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature 
> in Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the 
> width I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.
> 
> 
> 
> Later,
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: problem with Voice Dream Reader

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Vicki; I would uninstall the program and reinstall it. That should fix it. 
However, I can’t say for sure. Hope this helps merry Christmas Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 24, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Sometime during the last couple of weeks my Voice Dream Reader began acting 
> up.
>  
> When I try to download files from my Dropbox, they don't show up in the list 
> as they did a few weeks ago and always have. Example:
>  
> In Dropbox, I have a folder with all of my media content such as documents, 
> podcasts, etc. This is not a shared folder. Before, I would select add in 
> Voice Dream Reader, select Dropbox to grab the files I wanted and download 
> them and they would go to whichever folder I had opened in Voice Dream Reader.
>  
> Now, when I open Dropbox to select the files, only one folder and one file is 
> showing up in that media folder. There are 80 in there right now and they 
> have always shown up before. Dropbox is turned on for downloading in Voice 
> Dream Reader and nothing else has changed.
>  
> I turned my IPad off and on, did the Voice Dream Reader update and turned it 
> off and on again and still only one folder and one file show up.
>  
> How can I get everything to show up again to download from DB into Voice 
> Dream Reader as before?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
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Re: how to charge air pods pro

[Anthony Vece]

Sometimes, I need to display the AirPods and the case two or three times on the 
home screen before the amount of charge in the case will show up

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 2:42 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Holding them near the camera is just where I have the best luck in getting 
> it to work. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Dec 19, 2021, at 2:39 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ummm,
> Arnold,
> You don’t have to hold the airpods neer the camera,
>  
> Just open the case close to any part of the phone and they should pop up a 
> message at the bottom of the phone screen to say what the charge level is in 
> the case and with each pod,
>  
>  
> It’s got nothing to do with the cameras seeing te pods,
>  
> And this has been the same since airpods first gen
> And with airpods pro and third gen.
> 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2021 8:34 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how to charge air pods pro
>  
> I only have the cheap ones, but I'll bet the airpods pro use a similar way to 
> determine the charge of the case and airpods.  With the airpods in the case, 
> hold the case near the back of your phone, in the region of the camera and 
> open it. A dialogue should appear, telling you the charge of the airpods and 
> the case. Sometimes, it takes a couple seconds for this dialogue to appear, 
> sometimes you have to try it a couple times, but it should work. It probably 
> will work better with the expensive ones.  
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Dec 19, 2021, at 1:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> You can maybe check the Today screen on your iPhone and see if the case shows 
> up there, if it doesn't then it's anybody's guess, there will probably be 
> some LED's on the case, but then again one would or should assume that Apple 
> would make their own case show up in the Battery section of the Today Screen 
> which you may have to add as a widget if it's not there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: December 18, 2021 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro
>  
> I got it.  How do you know when the case needs charged?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro
>  
> Yeah there is a lightening port at the base of the airpods case to charge it 
> with cable.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2021 7:21 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro
>  
> I don't have Airpods, but can't you also plug the case in? As for charging 
> pads, any Qi wireless charging pad will do although I would look for one 
> which specifically states it supports the iPhone 12 at least or the iPhone 13 
> which is better in which case you are sure to get one which supports the 
> latest Apple fast charging standards.
> Of course if you have a MagSafe case you relaly probably want to get a 
> MagSafe  compatible charging pad either from Apple or from a third party like 
> Belkin which makes MagSafe chargers which allow you to charge an iPhone, 
> Apple Watch and Airpods all at the same time. But for one of them be prepared 
> to spend a bit of money, they don't come cheap. Here is an article which may 
> have more useful information:
>  
> Qi and Magsafe - Everything an iPhone user needs to know about wireless 
> charging - Apple Insider
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: December 17, 2021 10:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro
>  
> I have  the mag charge case I don’t have a wireless charging pad.  What pad 
> do you recommend?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: how to charge air pods pro
>  
> You put them on a wireless charging pad.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: December 17, 2021 10:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: how to charge air pods pro
>  
> Hi, how do I charge the case and air pods?  Do I need to charge them first?  
> How long does it take to charge them?
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Re: Looking for an USB charger

[Anthony Vece]

I find that the anker products will do just what you want them to do. They make 
power banks, chargers, and anything else that you need. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 9, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Here’s one I use, while it does not charge newer phones at their fastest rate 
> it is compact and has 6 USB ports.  It is rated at 60 Watts so will provide 
> 10 Watts per port if all are in use.  If only two ports are used each will 
> provide 12 Watts of power.
> 
> This charger will charge devices like an Apple Watch, some chargers do not 
> detect these devices due to their drawing low current.
> 
> It also charges power banks.
> 
> Take a look at:
> 
> Anker PowerPort 60 W 6-Port... 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00PK1IIJY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 9 Dec 2021, at 12:22, Mária Orovčíková  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> please, would anyone recommend an USB wall charger that has more than four 
>> USB ports and can charge USB devices such as phones, smart watches, power 
>> banks and others?
>> I purchased one made by TP-link, it looks like a disk, it has a round flat   
>>   shape, but unfortunately, it is not available any more.
>> I need something that does not take up too much space.
>> Thank you very much for your help in advance.
>> Maria
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Re: Question about T-Mobile

[Anthony Vece]

There are two apps that I use for T-Mobile. The first is the T-Mobile app 
itself. This app shows you your bill and anything related to your account and 
it advises you to go to T-Mobile Tuesdays in order to get free offers. The 
other app I use is T-Mobile Tuesdays. This app gives you plenty of offers and 
plenty of quips and they are both accessible with voiceover

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Rena  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Anthony,
>  
> What do you mean that there apps are mostly accessible with Voiceover?
> I’m not aware that I use any AT app. Please, explain. I don’t know much 
> about my iPhone yet.
>  
> Rena
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about T-Mobile
>  
> Hi Rena;
>  
> I switched to T-Mobile I needed reception.
> I have been a customer since Nov. 11, and, I have not had any problems.
>  
> What’s more there apps are mostly accessible with Voiceover.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Rena  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I use AT, but I’m planning to change to T-Mobile. I would like to know if 
> anyone uses T-Mobile and if she or he is happy with this company. My main 
> concerned is that I read that in periods of congestion I can experience  some 
> slow service. Please, I will appreciate your opinions.
> Thank you,
>  
> Rena
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Re: Question about T-Mobile

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Rena;

I switched to T-Mobile I needed reception.
I have been a customer since Nov. 11, and, I have not had any problems.

What’s more there apps are mostly accessible with Voiceover.

Anthony

Sent from my iPad

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> Hello,
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> anyone uses T-Mobile and if she or he is happy with this company. My main 
> concerned is that I read that in periods of congestion I can experience  some 
> slow service. Please, I will appreciate your opinions.
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>  
> Rena
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Re: battery case for my phone

[Anthony Vece]

Hello Kay;

For reasons like these, I would only use Otterbox or, Apple.

Anthony

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> On Nov 28, 2021, at 7:49 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
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> A few months ago I would have told you to buy one from Plus cases.  For 
> years I have been recommending them because I loved their battery cases. 
> However,  My husband and I both had cases from them and of course after time 
> the batteries started to swell and not charge as well.  This is after a few 
> years of use, so not a problem.  We decided to order two new ones from Plus 
> Cases since we had such good luck with several in the past.  We ordered two 
> and after about a week and a half received notification that they had been 
> shipped.  A couple of weeks later they finally arrived.  Imagine our dismay 
> when we discovered that the power buttons on both of them were defective.  I 
> wrote to them and asked to do a return.  This was set up and I sent them 
> back.  Plus cases received them and said they would send new cases out right 
> away.  I received notification that the shipping info had been sent to USPS 
> but that they had not received the package yet.  That was on November 5th. 
> The tracking info has not changed yet and Plus cases say that it was a 
> shipping problem with the post office.  They told me on the 24th that 
> everything had been resolved and I would see tracking changes by the end of 
> the day.  There have been no changes.  I asked once for my money back and 
> will ask them again on Monday.  Unfortunately, I can no longer recommend 
> them to anyone.  I just wanted to get this story out there in case someone 
> else might be looking in to getting something from them.  Since this 
> happened two times, I can only assume that this has happened to other people 
> as well.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
> anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
> shining - just shine.
> Dwight L. Moody - 1837-1899, Evangelist and Publisher
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Maria Reyes" 
> To: "via VIPhone" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 9:50 PM
> Subject: battery case for my phone
> 
> 
> Hi all
> I want to buy myself a charging case for my phone for my birthday. I would 
> go with the Apple smart case but it's a little overpriced in my opinion. I'm 
> wondering if there are any good, but cheaper options out there? and if I do 
> decide to go with the Smart battery case from Apple does it give the phone 
> any protection
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Re: Beats Flex Whireless Earphone

[Anthony Vece]

I had a pair of those. I could not get them to stay in my ears no matter what 
tip I used which is a shame because they really did sound good

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
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> I also have a pair of these headphones, and enjoy them. I will post a link 
> to a podcast that David Woodbridge did about them which might be helpful. Two 
> comments: Mr. Woodbridge implies that the only on off switch they have is 
> attaching the earbuds together with the magnet. They do have a separate on 
> off switch,  although using the former method puts them into a sleep mode 
> where the battery drain is very low. They will switch off completely after a 
> while. Also, these come with a U S B C to u s b c cable to charge them. If 
> you don't have a u s b  c charger, you will need to buy an usb to u s b c 
> cable in order to charge them. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> https://davidwoodbr.podbean.com/e/demo-and-review-of-the-beats-flex-from-apple-79au-worth-every-dollar
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> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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> On Nov 14, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
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> I have and thoroughly enjoy using these earphones. They are comfortable, 
> sound quality is good, and battery life is, indeed, 12 hours. I bought mine 
> from Costco, and InstantCart even delivered them, along with coffee and milk!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
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>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> I have followed so much discussions of different wireless air pods and 
>> wireless earphones on this list lately. However, I have not seen any mention 
>> of Beats Flex wireless earphones marketed by apple.  I just saw them listed 
>> under accessaries in the apple store. Apple claims that they have a 12 hours 
>> battery. The price is only 49.99. I am tempted to buy them to check them out.
>> 
>> Have any of you had any experience with the Beats Flex whireless earphones?  
>> I am curious to hear more about them before I throw away fifty dollars.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
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Re: Siri help needed

[Anthony Vece]

I use the button on the respective device.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

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> respond how do i fix this?
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Re: Westminster Chimes Full updated for iOS15 compatibility.

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Donna; thank you for sending that message. I just changed the Settings and 
they work just fine. Thank you again
Anthony Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
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> The developer of the westminster Chime app gave me an update. Here is what 
> he said:
> 
> From: J Luther Barnhart 
> Date: November 1, 2021 at 1:38:53 PM PDT
> To: J Luther Barnhart 
> Subject: Westminster Chimes and iOS 15
> 
> 
> I just submitted a new build of Westminster Chimes to the App Store!
> 
> This address the problem of the chimes not playing in iOS 15. Now we just 
> have to wait for Apple to approve it.
> 
> Part of the problem was that the previous version was not registering for 
> anything other than Sounds. That no longer works. Apple wants the end user to 
> have total control over their notification experience. So, by default, 
> Westminster Chimes will show Banners, and show on the lock screen.
> 
> For the best experience, I suggest that you go into Settings > Westminster 
> Chimes > Notifications, and turn off “Show in Lock Screen” and “Banners”. 
> Leave “Notification Center”  and “Sounds” turned on. 
> 
> Thank you for your patience, and for your business!
> 
> J Luther Barnhart
> jlut...@luthersoft.com
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have tried everything to stop it but I cannot either.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 2 Nov 2021, at 18:47, Maria Campbell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do I get Voiceover to stop talking when the chimes go off? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maria Campbell
>>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>>> --Edmund Burke
>>> 
> On 11/2/2021 12:57 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
 Hello friends,
 
 For those interested Westminster Chimes Full has been updated for 
 compatibility with iOS15.
 
 I’ve updated but not tried it yet.
 
 Malcolm Parfitt
 
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Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Anthony Vece]

Did you back up your previous iPhone?

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> I didn’t order these.
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE 
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>>> On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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>> Just go into sounds and haptics and download the ringtones you’ve already 
>> ordered with your previous phone. There is no additional charge.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
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>>>> On Oct 30, 2021, at 4:31 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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>>> Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so 
>>> how?  I see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is 
>>> appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dennis Long
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 
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Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

[Anthony Vece]

Just go into sounds and haptics and download the ringtones you’ve already 
ordered with your previous phone. There is no additional charge.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 30, 2021, at 4:31 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so how?  
> I see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is appreciated.
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone SE 
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Re: odd haptic/vibration

[Anthony Vece]

Paula I have been having the same issue since iOS 15. I’m not sure how to turn 
it off. Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
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> Hi.  I’m noticing that when I run my finger around my iphone mini screen 
> there is always this odd vibration or haptic of some sort as long as my 
> finger is sliding.  I’ve turned off sounds and haptics in settings but I 
> still feel it.  Not sure if I’m making this clear.  I never had anything like 
> it on my 7. Is there a way to get rid of it?  It’s annoying.
> Thanks as always.  So grateful for this group and the help I get.
> God bless!
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Re: Supersense is on Sale!

[Anthony Vece]

No, I am not using the barcode. I’ve had little success scanning the barcodes 
with any app. I just scanned for the text. I’m glad I could help. Take care 
Anthony

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> On Oct 8, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Richard Turner  
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> Are you using the bar code, or just scanning for the text?
> That is good to know, though I use ground coffee that I measure for each cup.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
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> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 9:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense is on Sale!
> 
> I do much better with Supersense in reading labels on K cup coffee pods.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was scanning a book that has lots of Bible verse references and Voice 
>> Dream kept them much clearer than did SuperSense.
>> I don’t' scan a lot of stuff, but there are times when SuperSense does a 
>> fine job.  That is why it is good to have both available.
>> I find the interface of Voice Dream Scanner a little more to my liking.  
>> That could be familiarity, but this is all about personal preference, right?
>> 
>> If SuperSense gets to where it can handle columns, it could likely become my 
>> go to app when I do want to scan a book.  Assuming, that is, that it would 
>> interpret two facing pages of a book as 2 columns and not jumble them 
>> together.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.” – Jane Wagner
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>> Subject: Re: Supersense is on Sale!
>> 
>> That's really helpful to know. What kinds of things are you scanning?
>> How does Voice Dream give better results?
>> 
>>>> On 10/7/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Good to hear. I will hold you to that.
>>> So far, I still use Voice Dream Scanner primarily for text scanning.
>>> It does not handle columns, but I get better resulqs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>>> -- Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> website:  
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>> u%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ce44a9802cb3a4f1670fd08d98a7cc9af%7C84df9e7
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>>> 7 
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>>> o 
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>>> L 
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>>> i
>>> pnWA%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's actually coming on well! It's back at the top of our 
>>> development road map after a busy year, so if all goes well, you can 
>>> expect to see it by the end of 2021!
>>> 
>>>> On 10/7/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> So, recognizing columns?  How is that coming along?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it."
>>> - Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site:
>>&g

Re: What’s the name of the new GPS apps

[Anthony Vece]

Thank you for that Richard. Take care
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to be picky, GoodMaps is written as one word with a capital G and 
> capital M.
> Here is the app store link:
> ‎GoodMaps Outdoors on the App Store (apple.com)
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What’s the name of the new GPS apps
>  
> Good maps outdoors.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John 
> Mccallister
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What’s the name of the new GPS apps
>  
>  
> What’s the name of the new maps formally known as the Seeing Eye GPS apps 
> that is free any help would be appreciated I think good maps a good night 
> maps explore which one is the correct one
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Oct 8, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
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> Johna
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Re: Supersense is on Sale!

[Anthony Vece]

I do much better with Supersense in reading labels on K cup coffee pods.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I was scanning a book that has lots of Bible verse references and Voice 
> Dream kept them much clearer than did SuperSense.
> I don’t' scan a lot of stuff, but there are times when SuperSense does a fine 
> job.  That is why it is good to have both available.
> I find the interface of Voice Dream Scanner a little more to my liking.  That 
> could be familiarity, but this is all about personal preference, right?
> 
> If SuperSense gets to where it can handle columns, it could likely become my 
> go to app when I do want to scan a book.  Assuming, that is, that it would 
> interpret two facing pages of a book as 2 columns and not jumble them 
> together.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
> Lowe
> Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 8:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense is on Sale!
> 
> That's really helpful to know. What kinds of things are you scanning?
> How does Voice Dream give better results?
> 
>> On 10/7/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Good to hear. I will hold you to that.
>> So far, I still use Voice Dream Scanner primarily for text scanning.
>> It does not handle columns, but I get better resulqs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>> -- Jane Wagner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C77241b5747e348c0e99d08d98a6d9cd2%7
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>> pnWA%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> It's actually coming on well! It's back at the top of our development 
>> road map after a busy year, so if all goes well, you can expect to see 
>> it by the end of 2021!
>> 
>> On 10/7/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> So, recognizing columns?  How is that coming along?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it."
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C77241b5747e348c0e99d08d98a6d9cd2%
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>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shane Lowe
>> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:57 PM
>> Subject: Supersense is on Sale!
>> 
>> Hey my friends,
>> I just wanted to quickly write and let you know that Supersense 
>> lifetime and annual subscriptions are 40% off until October 10. Enjoy!
>> :)
>> 
>> All the best,
>> --
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Re: iPhone 13 Pro Thoughts after a couple weeks

[Anthony Vece]

Once again thank you Richard

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 8:40 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> hi, Richard, all those features on your phone sound fabulous! I am in the 
>> market for a new phone. I do have a 7+ now and it served me well. I am very 
>> interested in trying out LiDAR. It sounds fascinating. Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 6:56 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Richard, it sounds good about your nice, blue phone, that you got on my 
>>> dad's birthday. It sounds especially good about the sensor. That will be a 
>>> giant step for me, when I get my 13, for coming out of church. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone 13 Pro Thoughts after a couple weeks
>>> 
>>> iPhone 13 Pro, 256 GB, Sierra Blue (not that the color matters.)
>>> 
>>> ESR clear case.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I received the phone on September 25th.
>>> 
>>> I've already mentioned in a previous note about the setup process so won't 
>>> repeat that here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First of all, I like the phone very much.  I like the size, I have no 
>>> issues with the gestures to unlock, go home, do the app switcher, control 
>>> center, or notification center, and no issues with Face ID.  
>>> 
>>> Compared to the SE 2020 it replaced, the sound is amazing!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is faster in downloading things like BARD Books, though since they put 
>>> their library on the Cloud, it is pretty darn fast even on a first 
>>> generation SE; but noticeably faster on this phone than even the SE 2020.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The battery life is truly excellent!  I wanted to wait until I had used it 
>>> over a period of a week or two to say anything about the battery.
>>> 
>>> I have had several days where I used the phone for a lot of hours, 8 or 
>>> more, for playing music, streaming videos, reading and writing emails, 
>>> reading the news, exploring settings, etc.  I can easily get the bulk of 
>>> two days use before putting it on the charger at night.
>>> 
>>> I use the screen curtain all the time.  I have brightness set to auto, so 
>>> when I check it, it is always at 0; and since having the brightness very 
>>> low saves battery life, this could be a big help in this area.  I usually 
>>> will turn VoiceOver off if someone needs to see the screen, so when I turn 
>>> VoiceOver back on, the screen curtain is in place.  Once in a while I just 
>>> toggle off the screen curtain; but I have to remember to toggle it back on 
>>> when they are done.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A side note about the charger; when I was helping a friend with her iPhone 
>>> 12 Pro purchase at the Verizon store, the MagSafe Apple wireless chargers 
>>> were on sale for $30; so I got one.  They are only safe on the 12 and 13 
>>> iPhones.  My friend got one as well.  It works great!  The phone charges in 
>>> 2 to 3 hours from under 10% to full.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Lidar Sensor works quite well with Seeing AI's World channel, but they 
>>> need to increase the number of objects it recognizes, which they are 
>>> working on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Super Lidar, the free app from SuperSense has a very useful feature if you 
>>> travel alone and have either a way to wear the phone with the camera facing 
>>> forward, or are comfortable holding it with the camera facing forward.  It 
>>> identifies people, and if they have no mask, it says "Person without a 
>>> mask" or something like that.
>>> 
>>> That kicks in when they are getting close to you.
>>> 
>>> In Super Lidar, the proximity sensor vibrates faster as you get nearer an 
>>> object, so I could see it helping when in line at a store or somewhere, to 
>>> know if the person ahead of you has moved up in the line.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>

Re: iPhone 13 Pro Thoughts after a couple weeks

[Anthony Vece]

Thank you

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> 
> hi, Richard, all those features on your phone sound fabulous! I am in the 
> market for a new phone. I do have a 7+ now and it served me well. I am very 
> interested in trying out LiDAR. It sounds fascinating. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 6:56 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>> Richard, it sounds good about your nice, blue phone, that you got on my 
>> dad's birthday. It sounds especially good about the sensor. That will be a 
>> giant step for me, when I get my 13, for coming out of church. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone 13 Pro Thoughts after a couple weeks
>> 
>> iPhone 13 Pro, 256 GB, Sierra Blue (not that the color matters.)
>> 
>> ESR clear case.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I received the phone on September 25th.
>> 
>> I've already mentioned in a previous note about the setup process so won't 
>> repeat that here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, I like the phone very much.  I like the size, I have no issues 
>> with the gestures to unlock, go home, do the app switcher, control center, 
>> or notification center, and no issues with Face ID.  
>> 
>> Compared to the SE 2020 it replaced, the sound is amazing!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It is faster in downloading things like BARD Books, though since they put 
>> their library on the Cloud, it is pretty darn fast even on a first 
>> generation SE; but noticeably faster on this phone than even the SE 2020.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The battery life is truly excellent!  I wanted to wait until I had used it 
>> over a period of a week or two to say anything about the battery.
>> 
>> I have had several days where I used the phone for a lot of hours, 8 or 
>> more, for playing music, streaming videos, reading and writing emails, 
>> reading the news, exploring settings, etc.  I can easily get the bulk of two 
>> days use before putting it on the charger at night.
>> 
>> I use the screen curtain all the time.  I have brightness set to auto, so 
>> when I check it, it is always at 0; and since having the brightness very low 
>> saves battery life, this could be a big help in this area.  I usually will 
>> turn VoiceOver off if someone needs to see the screen, so when I turn 
>> VoiceOver back on, the screen curtain is in place.  Once in a while I just 
>> toggle off the screen curtain; but I have to remember to toggle it back on 
>> when they are done.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A side note about the charger; when I was helping a friend with her iPhone 
>> 12 Pro purchase at the Verizon store, the MagSafe Apple wireless chargers 
>> were on sale for $30; so I got one.  They are only safe on the 12 and 13 
>> iPhones.  My friend got one as well.  It works great!  The phone charges in 
>> 2 to 3 hours from under 10% to full.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Lidar Sensor works quite well with Seeing AI's World channel, but they 
>> need to increase the number of objects it recognizes, which they are working 
>> on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Super Lidar, the free app from SuperSense has a very useful feature if you 
>> travel alone and have either a way to wear the phone with the camera facing 
>> forward, or are comfortable holding it with the camera facing forward.  It 
>> identifies people, and if they have no mask, it says "Person without a mask" 
>> or something like that.
>> 
>> That kicks in when they are getting close to you.
>> 
>> In Super Lidar, the proximity sensor vibrates faster as you get nearer an 
>> object, so I could see it helping when in line at a store or somewhere, to 
>> know if the person ahead of you has moved up in the line.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have not taken it for a walk as yet, but while riding in a car, GoodMaps 
>> Outdoors, does a great job of keeping up with intersection announcements.  I 
>> think the processor speed may help there but I have not tried GoodMaps 
>> Outdoors on any other device.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> OCR with Voice Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, SuperSense are all excellent of 
>> course.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That is about all I have to say at this point.  Feel free to ask about 
>> anything I have not mentioned.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: iPhone 13 Pro Thoughts after a couple weeks

[Anthony Vece]

Richard; I am unable to find the settings for auto brightness. It goes from 0 
to 100% tell me where it is please? Thanks Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> iPhone 13 Pro, 256 GB, Sierra Blue (not that the color matters.)
> ESR clear case.
>  
> I received the phone on September 25th.
> I've already mentioned in a previous note about the setup process so won't 
> repeat that here.
>  
> First of all, I like the phone very much.  I like the size, I have no issues 
> with the gestures to unlock, go home, do the app switcher, control center, or 
> notification center, and no issues with Face ID. 
> Compared to the SE 2020 it replaced, the sound is amazing!
>  
> It is faster in downloading things like BARD Books, though since they put 
> their library on the Cloud, it is pretty darn fast even on a first generation 
> SE; but noticeably faster on this phone than even the SE 2020.
>  
> The battery life is truly excellent!  I wanted to wait until I had used it 
> over a period of a week or two to say anything about the battery.
> I have had several days where I used the phone for a lot of hours, 8 or more, 
> for playing music, streaming videos, reading and writing emails, reading the 
> news, exploring settings, etc.  I can easily get the bulk of two days use 
> before putting it on the charger at night.
> I use the screen curtain all the time.  I have brightness set to auto, so 
> when I check it, it is always at 0; and since having the brightness very low 
> saves battery life, this could be a big help in this area.  I usually will 
> turn VoiceOver off if someone needs to see the screen, so when I turn 
> VoiceOver back on, the screen curtain is in place.  Once in a while I just 
> toggle off the screen curtain; but I have to remember to toggle it back on 
> when they are done.
>  
> A side note about the charger; when I was helping a friend with her iPhone 12 
> Pro purchase at the Verizon store, the MagSafe Apple wireless chargers were 
> on sale for $30; so I got one.  They are only safe on the 12 and 13 iPhones.  
> My friend got one as well.  It works great!  The phone charges in 2 to 3 
> hours from under 10% to full.
>  
> The Lidar Sensor works quite well with Seeing AI's World channel, but they 
> need to increase the number of objects it recognizes, which they are working 
> on.
>  
> Super Lidar, the free app from SuperSense has a very useful feature if you 
> travel alone and have either a way to wear the phone with the camera facing 
> forward, or are comfortable holding it with the camera facing forward.  It 
> identifies people, and if they have no mask, it says "Person without a mask" 
> or something like that.
> That kicks in when they are getting close to you.
> In Super Lidar, the proximity sensor vibrates faster as you get nearer an 
> object, so I could see it helping when in line at a store or somewhere, to 
> know if the person ahead of you has moved up in the line.
>  
> I have not taken it for a walk as yet, but while riding in a car, GoodMaps 
> Outdoors, does a great job of keeping up with intersection announcements.  I 
> think the processor speed may help there but I have not tried GoodMaps 
> Outdoors on any other device.
>  
> OCR with Voice Dream Scanner, Seeing AI, SuperSense are all excellent of 
> course.
>  
> That is about all I have to say at this point.  Feel free to ask about 
> anything I have not mentioned.
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Re: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[Anthony Vece]

Regina; 877-204-3930
Is the correct number. Be safe
Be careful

Sent from my 
Verizon iPad

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 9:47 AM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Richard did Apple change their accessibility number? I have it in my 
> contacts, and I don’t use it very much. However, I’d like to use it when I 
> need it and I don’t want to have to try to find another number. I have it as 
> 877-204-3930. Just curious because the number you gave was so totally 
> different. Thanks.
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Sep 28, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It will only charge faster if you pair it with at least a 20 Watt wall 
> adapter. If you want to make sure you are future proof for years to come I 
> would probably say get at least a USB-C wall adapter capable of 30 Watts or 
> more.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
> hevener
> Sent: September 27, 2021 4:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not
> 
> I agree with Richard re u calling apple for the answer.  However, having said 
> that, yesterday, I heard a consumer report addressing the topic of whether 
> the usb C lightening cable is really any faster than the standard ones apple 
> use to include with their phones.  Both were tested and the usb c lightening 
> cable actually did charge faster than the traditional one.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 6:27 PM
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> Subject: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not
> 
> Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
> iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?
> 
> Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your 
> phone or does it not really give you A faster charging time?
> 
> Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just 
> not bother and save my money for something else?
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Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

[Anthony Vece]

Robert; thank you very much. I will forward this to my endocrinologist. Take 
care and stay safe Anthony

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 12:25 PM, Robert stigile  wrote:
> 
> Hi, it’s Robert.
> So, you need to have your doctor tell them that you do not need insulin but 
> in order to keep your blood sugars in tight control you need to freestyle 
> libre patches.
> Your doctor will need to submit reports every three months to let them know 
> that you are still not using insulin but that your blood sugars are in 
> tighter control by using the free style libre patch.
> Also, your doctor needs to submit a report stating that due to your blindness 
> you’re not able to test using a meter as well due to not getting enough blood 
> on the strips. That is what my doctor has told Abbott and they are fine with 
> that.
> You just have to have your doctor keep pushing it.
> Good luck! 
> 
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bob; I am having a terrible time getting the freestyle libre. They keep 
>> telling me that I need to be on insulin. Three doctors have tried to get 
>> this for me through my medical plan and Medicare part B to no success. 
>> Please help? Thank you Anthony
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Robert stigile  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> First, no you do not need to be on insulin do use the Libre, as I am not 
>>> using insulin and I have the libre sensors.
>>> My doctor was able to get the Libre for me because I said I wanted to have 
>>> better control of my diabetes and I can’t do that because it’s difficult to 
>>> get blood test since I can’t see it all and it’s hard to get enough blood 
>>> on the strip using a meter.
>>> Secondly when you are using the app on iPhone to check your readings with 
>>> the Libre patch you need to put the top of the phone against the patch and 
>>> then it will scan it and give you your readings. Again, you need to touch 
>>> the top of the foam to the patch.
>>> I hope this helps. 
>>> 
>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>>> National Federation of the Blind of California
>>> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>>> 818-381-9568
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Lynn White  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Linda,
>>>> My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I 
>>>> would either check with the insurance company or your doctor.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Everyone,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that 
>>>>>> yes I may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 
>>>>>> 2 app to activate it.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my 
>>>>>> phone thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  
>>>>>> Didn’t make a difference.  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is 
>>>>>> Libre 2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have Voice Dream 
>>>>>> Scanner read what the display shows.  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are not 
>>>>>> very loud.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Vivian and Sallie
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone  
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

Re: Free Style Libre Arrived

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Bob; I am having a terrible time getting the freestyle libre. They keep 
telling me that I need to be on insulin. Three doctors have tried to get this 
for me through my medical plan and Medicare part B to no success. Please help? 
Thank you Anthony

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> On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Robert stigile  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> First, no you do not need to be on insulin do use the Libre, as I am not 
> using insulin and I have the libre sensors.
> My doctor was able to get the Libre for me because I said I wanted to have 
> better control of my diabetes and I can’t do that because it’s difficult to 
> get blood test since I can’t see it all and it’s hard to get enough blood on 
> the strip using a meter.
> Secondly when you are using the app on iPhone to check your readings with the 
> Libre patch you need to put the top of the phone against the patch and then 
> it will scan it and give you your readings. Again, you need to touch the top 
> of the foam to the patch.
> I hope this helps. 
> 
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Lynn White  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Linda,
>> My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I would 
>> either check with the insurance company or your doctor.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
 
 Thanks Everyone,
  
 Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and think that 
 yes I may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my Libre 2 
 app to activate it.
  
 I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and my phone 
 thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  Didn’t make 
 a difference.  
  
 The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the reader is 
 Libre 2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.
  
 So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have Voice Dream 
 Scanner read what the display shows. 
  
 Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are not very 
 loud.
  
 Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions.
  
 Vivian and Sallie
  
  
 From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone  
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived
  
 As others have said, you don’t need the reader.  I am not diabetic, but my 
 husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with just the 
 app.  I have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the 
 reader, that you may not be able to use this particular sensor with the 
 app, but after this 14-day sensor is finished, just apply the new sensor 
 and use the app to scan it.  Also, as others have said, after you activate 
 it, you will need to wait an hour.  The app will notify you when your hour 
 is over and prompt you to scan for a reading.  We have never had a reader 
 with my husband’s unit, as I talked with a coworker and he told me not to 
 get it, as the app is the most accessible way to use the Libre.  We told 
 the doctor that we didn’t want or need the reader.  Hope this is helpful.
  
 
 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
  
 The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the next sensor 
 with your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but I don’t 
 recall how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve now 
 switched over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 
 Hi Vivian,
 You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might get the 
 device to change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used the 
 libre with my phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the 
 continuous glucose monitor every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It 
 works real well, at least it did the last time I used it. But as I say, I 
 do not know if it is possible to switch your sensor over to the phone from 
 the reader. Just don’t use the reader again. It was an unnecessary expense 
 that they should not have sold you.
  
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
 
 
 Hi All,
  
 I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an appointment 
 with the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I told her 
 that it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.

Re: Changing the Voiceover speaking rate.

[Anthony Vece]

Hello Barbara; I found that when you drag your finger very slowly this usually 
works. However, your motor movements need to be very very fine. Hope this 
helps. Anthony

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> On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> Yes, you can indeed move the voice over speaking rate by 5%
> increments.  Your speaking rate should be in your router.  Once you
> find speaking rate, you should be able to move by 5% increments.  If
> you go to speaking rate in voice over settings, then it would go by
> 10% increments.
> 
>> On 9/19/21, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
>> Is there a way to get the voiceover speaking rate to move in 5 percent
>> increments instead of ten? I was using my kindle app and I had VO set at 60
>> and it read just a bit too fast, but I could only seem to move the VO
>> speaking rate at ten percent increments and 50 percent was too slow.
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Re: strange voiceover issue

[Anthony Vece]

I guess it depends on what is important !y.  

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> On Sep 14, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> You have to write to accessibil...@apple.com to complain, this is a bug and 
> depending on your Bluetooth speaker it is more or less pronounced, but if you 
> leave Voiceover on the phone and send the audio stream to a Bluetooth speaker 
> you get these random volume fluctuations.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: September 14, 2021 11:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: strange voiceover issue
>  
>I’ve got the audio track going through a Bluetooth speaker and 
> the voiceover on my phone. Ive noticed that voiceover will start off very 
> quietly and then increase in volume. Id like this to stop. Adjusting the 
> volume with the side buttons lowers the sound of whatever Im listening to.
> I’d like to keep voiceover at a quiet consistent volume. How do I do this?
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Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging

[Anthony Vece]

Hey Arnold; when you use wired AirPods if you could if you have it just use a 
MagSafe charger. I useit all the time and it works well.  Hope this helps  
Anthony

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> On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Or ask google, which is what I should have done in the first lace. 
> Allegedly, it is compatible with wireless charging.  
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is something you have to check on the Otterbox website, most case 
> manufacturers indicate whether the different models they make are compatible 
> with wireless charging.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: September 4, 2021 5:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
>  
> Do you know if this cradle will work with an Otterbox  Commuter case? I know 
> it will work with some cases, not others. 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Depending on your preference you may want to look for a wireless charging 
> stand/cradle instead of a pad.
> A pad is just a round disk very like a coaster for underneath a glass in size 
> and you have to more or less centre your iPhone on it. The one I have which I 
> think was a Belkin is about a quarter of an inch wider than my iPhone 11 on 
> each side, but of course the phone sticks out a lot further length wise.
> If you have a wireless charging stand your phone stands on an angle, maybe 
> not 45 degrees, but probably close to it and the one I also have and use in 
> my living room is more or less the same width as my iPhone 11 so it's super 
> easy to put it on there and on the bottom it has an edge which holds the 
> phone in the semi-upright position so it's always in the right place to 
> charge and if you do listen to the phone with wired headphones you are a bit 
> less likely to pull it out of alignment which is very easy if it is just 
> sitting on top of a round pad. If I want to use headphones with the stand I 
> put it on the stand upside down so the Lightning port is on the top because 
> otherwise of course it sits against the bottom edge of the stand and you 
> can't plug in anything.
>  
> There is one other option which I haven't tried but which should work fine 
> and that would be to find a plastic box of some sort which is just big enough 
> for your iPhone, if you want to plug in a headset you could cut out a section 
> of the boxes bottom where the lightning jack is and then attach the charging 
> pad to the bottom of the box with double sided tape. This way you have the 
> higher edges of the box holding the phone in place.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: September 2, 2021 2:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
>  
> Richard, That is an interesting idea.  I had not thought about wireless 
> charging.  Since my splitter came free to me when I made a previous purchase, 
> I had no idea it could be that expense to replace.  I think I’ll try your 
> approach.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 1:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: splitter to use wired earbuds while charging
>  
> My solution when my adapter died was to go with a far less expensive wireless 
> charger.
> Unless your SE 2020 is in a case that prevents using the wireless pad, I'd go 
> that route. I just bought one for about $17 while the adapter is $40.
> So, two charging pads would be less than one adapter. I'll send the info 
> again on both the wired and wireless options once I dig them up.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
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> 
> On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:00 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had a lightning splitter that allowed me to charge my phone while using the 
> wired earbuds.   I think I got it as a free gift from Mystic Access a couple 
> years ago. I recall that I’d get a onscreen notice  that it was not a 
> supported device when I used to plug it in.  Nevertheless, , over time, I 
> guess, the thing no longer works to charge my phone.  I can plug it in and 
> hear via my earbuds, but something must have  happened to the part that 
> connects to my power cord, as it won’t charge.  I’d like to find another such 
> device and haven’t found one on A.T. Guys or Mystic  Access.  Given the 
> warning I used to get, am I better off going to Apple to get one of these or 
> does someone have a recommendation of one I can get. Heck, I’d probably get a 
> couple so I can leave them near each of my various power 

Re: iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Joe; I’ve been using iOS products and Mac products since 2015. I’ve never 
went back to windows for any reason. Just pick up the iOS and Mac products and 
don’t look back. When I want to edit an app I bring it into notes. I do it by 
hand. And you certainly can jump from heading to heading with a Bluetooth 
keyboard. Hope this helps. Anthony

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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
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> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
> iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
> understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
> I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
> iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
> that "improvement" is purely subjective.
> 
> First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
> say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
> things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
> without using the roter?
> 
> Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
> app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
> Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
> sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
> best bet, I'd be curious to know this.
> 
> Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
> iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
> habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
> I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
> if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
> from you.
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance,
> 
> Joe
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Re: Wifi booster recommendations

[Anthony Vece]

Amy Comcast has network extenders. They pluginto different receptacles in the 
different rooms of your apartment. If you’re not going to use Comcast maybe the 
cable provider that you will use will have them. I hope this helps. And it’s 
certainly nice to see you here again
Take care
Stay safe
Anthony

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> On Aug 23, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> I have some phone dropouts when I am in my current apartment and will soon be 
> moving to Maine in an area where I may have less efficient service than I 
> currently enjoy. Any recommendations for a good reasonably priced wifi 
> booster?
> Thanks.
> Amy
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Re: a problem with audio volume during calls

[Anthony Vece]

Just turn voiceover off voiceover on with the side button shortcut and that 
will fix it.

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> On Aug 20, 2021, at 7:24 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am having a problem that I have never seen before.
> 
> 
> 
> When on a call if I need to access the keypad the VO voice volume is 
> extremely low.  I can barely hear what it is saying when it is speaking the 
> keys on the on screen keypad. The rest of the speech and audio is just great 
> but not this.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone else seen this and what did you do to make the VO voice in this 
> case louder?  I do have audio ducking off, I checked that first.
> 
> 
> 
> I can't even turn it up while it is speaking using the volume up and down 
> buttons.
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> 
> Thanks for any ideas.
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Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

[Anthony Vece]

I agree.

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> On Aug 19, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Annoying but hardly a deal-breaker.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: August 19, 2021 3:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
>> 
>> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
>> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since updating 
>> & didn't even notice the problem.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
>> fix it next go round of updates.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:57 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> Because if you do so all your messages wil be stated as unread even 
>>> if they have already been read.
>>> Davy
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Re: disappearing voiceover

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When that happens to me I turn voiceover on and off with the side button

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Re: Listening to local FM on Iphone

[Anthony Vece]

 Richard use OTunes. If the station is not in the  oOTunes library the 
developer Steven will add it. I’ve been using oOTunes since I used my iPhone in 
09 and I don’t need to use anything else. Hope this helps Anthony

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> On Jul 30, 2021, at 4:41 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> I tried in TuneIn Radio, iHeart radio, and My Tuner radio and none of them 
> have that station.
> So, it would take being close enough to use a standard FM radio.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
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>>> On Jul 30, 2021, at 1:23 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
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>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> Thank you for prompt reply.   I am trying for a station in Mumbai
>> India and it is called Magic 106.4 FM.  Do let me know if you can find
>> it.
>> 
>> With best wishes,
>> 
>> Ketan
>> 
>>> On 30/07/2021, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> the iPhone may have an FM chip, but Apple has never enabled it, so no, you
>>> cannot listen that way.
>>> However, there are a lot of apps that give access to local radio. If the
>>> station has no internet presence at all; then they probably will not be on
>>> any of the apps.
>>> Is there a particular station you are trying to find?
>>> I have severl apps and could easily check if you gave the city, state, and
>>> call letters for the one, or ones you want.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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Re: how do you use tick tock?

[Anthony Vece]

I’d like to know also?

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> On Jul 27, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I was wondering, is tick tock accessible to browse on the IPhone with voice 
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> Any suggestions would be helpful.
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Re: A Bluetooth Speaker question

[Anthony Vece]

There are settings under the music app on your iPhone. Those settings only 
control the music that you are playing from your iPhone. They will not control 
other applications. You go under settings general and music. Good luck
Anthony

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> On Jul 17, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> Hello iPhone Listers,
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> I have a Bluetooth question. I own several speakers including a couple of 
> Bose ones. Unfortunately, none of my speakers offers the option to control 
> the amount of bass and treble being put out. Sometimes, I think the Bose 
> units put out too much bass. Does anyone have any idea what kind of speakers 
> offers tone options? Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: Sirius xm

[Anthony Vece]

I use it every day.

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> On Jul 2, 2021, at 7:05 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> I find it pretty accessible as well.
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> 
>> On 7/2/2021 6:34 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> Once you have an account and are signed-in, the Sirius/XM app is very
>> accessible. There are a few unlabeled buttons, but you are still able
>> to access channels and other features within the app. There is another
>> app some people use to access Sirius which is more stripped down, but
>> I have grown to really enjoy the main Sirius app. Over all, the Sirius
>> app gives me many features which are not in that other stripped down
>> app. To each their own.
>> 
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 7/2/21, 'Bud Kennedy' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> I am interested in getting a subscription to Sirius Xm to use with the
>>> iPhone app.  How accessible is the iPhone app?  Thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>>   Bud Kennedy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bud Kennedy
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple TV

[Anthony Vece]

Karen; I can say with certainty that the Apple TV is very accessible.
I’ve never used a Roku so I’m not sure. Take care
Stay safe
Anthony

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> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:19 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
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> I know there have been lots of messages on this topic in the past.  However,
> I didn't really pay attention to them because I wasn't needing the
> information.
> 
> We currently have a Roku, and are thinking about changing to Apple TV.  I
> have to admit that I never concerned myself with accessibility, and just let
> my husband control the remote, since we seemed to enjoy much of the same
> programing.
> 
> For those of you who have had experience with both; Which do you prefer, and
> why?
> 
> Would the Apple TV be as accessible as other Apple devices?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds

[Anthony Vece]

Well Simon, you get what you pay for.

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> On Jun 25, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I've kept headphones from the phones and iPods I've purchased over the 
> years,
> 
> And just gone through those as I need them.
> 
> I did give a couple of pair away  but the only real issue I have with them 
> now is that I have a couple of lightening connection versions sitting in a 
> box,
> But they don't connect to my notebook when I'm running windows.
> 
> So I purchased a couple of sony headphones similar design but crap sound and 
> they cost me $9 each NZ.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2021 5:01 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> I know he said he was looking for alternatives, but for me an alternative 
> which its inside the ear and blocks off all or most sound is not an 
> alternative. Despite the fact that the Apple Earbuds break from time to time 
> I still think they are the best wired ear buds on the market as far as sound 
> qualiy, functionality and not blocking out external noise are concerned. If 
> you can find them for $10 or $15 from sources like eBay, Amazon or GroupOn 
> then that would be pretty acceptable to me, I would just buy 4 or 5 at a time 
> and use them up. I use mie all the time and I'm pretty hard on them as well, 
> just yesterday I accidently dropped them and rolled over one of the ear 
> pieces with my office chair, ell, so much for that, if it had been one of the 
> Apple Airpods Pro I would have been a lot more upset!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
> 
> I think the point is Wayne did not want to spend more money on the Apple 
> EarPods. Giving him ways to spend less on the same product isn’t solving his 
> issue.
> 
> Wayne, try this alternative:
> 
> https://amzn.to/3w65LPX
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
>> On 6/24/21, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> I bought refurbished EarPods on eBay for $9. It sounds like the issue 
>> you have with them is price. I was sent a broken EarPod once, and it 
>> was replaced without hassle.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/24/21, joediner...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>> 
>>> I have not looked in quite a while, however, Groupon used to have 
>>> official Apple earbuds for approximately $13 a pair, with a slight 
>>> discount on purchase of multiple pairs e.g. $11 each for purchasing 3 
>>> pairs.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:12 PM
>>> To: viphone 
>>> Subject: Wired alternative to Apple Lightning earbuds
>>> 
>>> Greetings. After nearly 10 years, I'm losing my attraction to the 
>>> wired Apple earbuds. It seems like I've gone through several pairs 
>>> over the last year or so; they don't last as long as advertised; and 
>>> I am tired of paying Apple's prices. Does anyone know of an 
>>> alternative to these earbuds? I know that wireless earbuds are the 
>>> current craze, but I prefer wired ones. I would also like to have the 
>>> same abilities to adjust volume and handle media/phone calls with the 
>>> in-line buttons. All thoughts welcome.
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
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Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem

[Anthony Vece]

Robert; I don’t believe voiceover disappeared it probably went to your 
earpiece. I had that happens sometimes with Verizon wireless and I’ve had it 
happen also with the Alexa app. What I do is back out of the app and then go 
back into it again and voiceover reappears.I hope this helps

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> when I opened the app voiceover disappeared.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Edward Przybylek" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 9:25 AM
> Subject: RE: Amazon Alexa App Problem
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The first things I tried were shutting down and restarting my iPhone and then 
> I tried resetting the phone.  None of this made a difference.  Last night, I 
> spent a lot of time doing some research on the Internet and trying a number 
> of solutions that people suggested.  I finally found a post that recommended 
> turning off and then turning on airplane mode.  I didn't hold out much hope 
> for this solution but I was getting a bit desperate.  I have numerous Amazon 
> devices around the house and I didn't want to lose all the information about 
> these devices stored in the Alexa app.  Surprisingly, turning off and then 
> turning on airplane mode solved the problem.  I don't know what airplane mode 
> has to do with the Alexa app but I'm glad to have things working again.  
> Thanks.
> 
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Vicky Collins
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem
> 
> I had the exact same thing happen to me on two of my phones yesterday after 
> updating the Amazon Shopping app. Uninstalling the app, then doing a reboot, 
> and then installing the app again solved the problem. And yes, I did have to 
> sign back into the app as well as fix its notification settings.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jennie Facer  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:40 pm
> Subject: Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hmm that is strange. Try reinstalling the app maybe? Remember that you 
>> will have to have your Amazon sign-in info to get back in. You won't lose 
>> any of your data on Alexa or anything if you do this. Also maybe even before 
>> that, restart your phone? Is this the only App it is doing thi to?
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>> > On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Edward Przybylek > 
>> >  wrote:
>> > his
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Tonight I tried to open the Amazon Alexa app to opt out of the Amazon > 
>> > Sidewalk feature.  I double tapped the app on my home page after which > 
>> > there was a delay and I was returned back to the home page with focus > 
>> > still on the Amazon Alexa app.  I opened the app switcher and found the > 
>> > app listed there.  Double tapping the app, however, simply returned me > 
>> > to the home page with focus still on the app.  I then tried the same > 
>> > exercise on my iPod Touch 7 with the exact same results.  Has anyone > 
>> > else experienced this problem?  If so, were you able to find a solution? > 
>> > As always, any help is greatly appreciated.  Stay healthy.
>> >
>> > Take care,
>> > Ed Przybylek
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Re: Bluetooth headset recommendation for Plantronics E50 replacement

[Anthony Vece]

Jeff;
Just use Apple AirPods or Apple AirPods Pro and use one of them as a single 
earpiece.

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> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> 
> 
> I talked with Plantronics, now Poly, to learn if there is a new model similar 
> to the Explorer 50. There is not and nothing all that similar.
>  
> So, I’m looking for recommendations on a small, Bluetooth single earpiece. I 
> need it to switch easily to either ear. What are user recommendations?
> Thank you in advance.
> Jeff
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth headset recommendation for Plantronics E50 replacement
>  
> That was a great earpiece.  I’ve owned a couple of them.
> The current one is mislaid at the moment.
>  
> Amazon is selling a “renewed” i.e. refurbished, one for $60.
> Amazon.com: Plantronics 202340-21 Explorer 50 Bluetooth Headset - Retail 
> Packaging - Black
>  
> I’m not familiar enough with their other models to know what is similar.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
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>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
> Samco
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bluetooth headset recommendation for Plantronics E50 replacement
>  
> I have used the Plantronics Explorer 50 single Bluetooth earpiece for quite a 
> while. I particularly like the small size, and attached ear hook that easily 
> adjusts to either ear. It appears this is no longer is being made. Is there a 
> similar design in a new Plantronics model?
> Thanks,
> Jeff
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Re: A problem with dictation in apps

[Anthony Vece]

Sherry;
I am having the same issue in any app I am using.It’s nerve-racking. Stay safe
Anthony

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> On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
> 
> After updating to 14.6 I can no longer use dictation in the Amazon app.
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never used either of those apps; so it could be something with the 
>> update and those apps.
>> Try it somewhere like Notes, or Email and see if it behaves the same way.
>> If it does, then I'd contact Apple Accessibility.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal 
>> Marzec
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A problem with dictation in apps
>> 
>> Just two finger tap on a typing field
>> At the moment I’ve noticed this problem in Facebook messenger and WhatsApp
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 13 Jun 2021, at 8:14 pm, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> How exactly are you starting dictation?
>>> 
>>> And, in which apps?
>>> 
>>> Exact steps will help duplicate the issue or find a solution.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
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>>> 
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>>> I've noticed huge problems with dictation in apps When I'm starting to 
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>>> of the Internet Switching between the language keyboards help think for a 
>>> moment but after some few sentences lwhen I'm trying to dictate again it's 
>>> turning off It's also helping for a moment after closing the app on the app 
>>> switcher and open it again but it just helping for one time dictation Has 
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Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

[Anthony Vece]

Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an Apple 
representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done

> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
> which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
> bar.
> Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
> current value.
> Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
> continuously announcement whenever values gets change.
> 
> Thank you!
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Re: Forwarded Email: Alexa and finding previous In Touch Radio 4 programs

[Anthony Vece]

Just thought I would ask. Thank you

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> On Jun 4, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure, but searching on Bing lead me to this page 
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qxww where it says the following:
> 
> News, views and information for people who are blind or partially sighted
> 
> Note that I just searched for "In Touch podcast".
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 3:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Forwarded Email: Alexa and finding previous In Touch Radio 4 
> programs
> 
> What subject does this podcast address?
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2021, at 1:57 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>> 
>> I too use the iPhone Podcast to access In Touch but I don't think they are 
>> edited.
>> Alison
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ian Harrison
>> Sent: 04 June 2021 11:03
>> To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Forwarded Email: Alexa and finding previous In Touch 
>> Radio 4 programs
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a different option as I don’t know the Alexa method. I listen to In 
>> Touch through the Apple Podcast app, which can play a large number of older 
>> episodes. The podcasts are probably an edited version of the broadcast.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Ian
>> 
>>>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 18:30, 'Pat Marshall' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pat Marshall - Email Address: pa...@btinternet.com Sent On: 
>>> 6/3/2021 18:20 Sent To: viphone@googlegroups.com - Email Address: 
>>> viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> subject: Alexa and finding previous In Touch Radio 4 programs
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I know this is not an I phone question but possibly some of you might be 
>>> able to help.  How do you ask Alexa please to bring up previous Radio 4 In 
>>> Touch programs please.  What are the commands . If I ask her for the most 
>>> recent one that's ok but it's ones before that I can't get.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pat M
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Forwarded Email: Alexa and finding previous In Touch Radio 4 programs

[Anthony Vece]

What subject does this podcast address?

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 4, 2021, at 1:57 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> I too use the iPhone Podcast to access In Touch but I don't think they are 
> edited.
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ian 
> Harrison
> Sent: 04 June 2021 11:03
> To: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Forwarded Email: Alexa and finding previous In Touch Radio 4 
> programs
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a different option as I don’t know the Alexa method. I listen to In 
> Touch through the Apple Podcast app, which can play a large number of older 
> episodes. The podcasts are probably an edited version of the broadcast.
> 
> Cheers
> Ian
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 18:30, 'Pat Marshall' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pat Marshall - Email Address: pa...@btinternet.com Sent On: 
>> 6/3/2021 18:20 Sent To: viphone@googlegroups.com - Email Address: 
>> viphone@googlegroups.com
>> subject: Alexa and finding previous In Touch Radio 4 programs
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I know this is not an I phone question but possibly some of you might be 
>> able to help.  How do you ask Alexa please to bring up previous Radio 4 In 
>> Touch programs please.  What are the commands . If I ask her for the most 
>> recent one that's ok but it's ones before that I can't get.  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Pat M
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Bose frames

[Anthony Vece]

I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear Earbuds

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses I 
> already have?
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
>> sighted wife to swap them out!
>> With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
>>> Danney
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>> 
>>> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun glasses,
>>> 
>>> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
>>> 
>>> Tenor are more squarish
>>> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear drop shaped 
>>> sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the outer corner of the 
>>> eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
>>> 
>>> The closest
>>> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Anthony Vece
>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>>> 
>>> Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
>>> glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses 
>>> that are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get 
>>> a pair of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are 
>>> Raybans. Thank you stay safe
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
>>>> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
>>>> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
>>>> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Warmest regards
>>>> 
>>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Beverly Wieland
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>>> 
>>>> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive 
>>>> me for asking questions on Bose Frames.
>>>> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
>>>> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen 
>>>> to GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The 
>>>> open ear technology sounds like it will do that.
>>>> 
>>>> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
>>>> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
>>>> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I 
>>>> noticed that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the 
>>>> newer models:
>>>> Integrated microphone
>>>> Multi-directional motion sensor
>>>> 
>>>> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands 
>>>> to the phone?
>>>> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in 
>>>> general or for me as a blind user?
>>>> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
>>>> subject.
>>>> Beverly Wieland
>>>> bwiel...@udel.edu
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Re: Bose frames

[Anthony Vece]

Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses I 
already have?

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
> sighted wife to swap them out!
> With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
>> Danney
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun glasses,
>> 
>> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
>> 
>> Tenor are more squarish
>> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear drop shaped 
>> sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the outer corner of the 
>> eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
>> 
>> The closest
>> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>> 
>> Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
>> glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
>> are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a 
>> pair of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are 
>> Raybans. Thank you stay safe
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
>>> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
>>> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
>>> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Warmest regards
>>> 
>>> Rick Alfaro
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Beverly Wieland
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>> 
>>> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive 
>>> me for asking questions on Bose Frames.
>>> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
>>> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen 
>>> to GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The 
>>> open ear technology sounds like it will do that.
>>> 
>>> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
>>> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
>>> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I 
>>> noticed that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the 
>>> newer models:
>>> Integrated microphone
>>> Multi-directional motion sensor
>>> 
>>> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
>>> the phone?
>>> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in 
>>> general or for me as a blind user?
>>> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
>>> subject.
>>> Beverly Wieland
>>> bwiel...@udel.edu
>>> 
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Re: Bose frames

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair 
of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank 
you stay safe

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Beverly Wieland
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive me 
> for asking questions on Bose Frames.
> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
> GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
> ear technology sounds like it will do that.
> 
> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
> that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer models:
> Integrated microphone
> Multi-directional motion sensor
> 
> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
> the phone?
> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general 
> or for me as a blind user?
> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
> subject.
> Beverly Wieland
> bwiel...@udel.edu
> 
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Re: Apple accessibility and third-party apps

[Anthony Vece]

Mary; I’ve called Apple about third-party apps. It really depends on the 
representative who you get. Some will work and some won’t. However, you have 
nothing to lose. Try it. Stay safe 
Anthony

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> On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if anyone has any experience calling Accessibility at Apple 
> regarding voiceover with a third-party app. I wouldn’t suppose they would be 
> much help, but I’m just wondering. I mentioned before that I was having 
> problems with the MLB app, not being able to go back in the calendar to a 
> previous month. I just talked to MLB‘s Accessibility person, and the 
> conversation was ridiculous. She wanted me to uninstall the app, reset my 
> modem, do all kinds of garbage that’s totally not related to the fact that 
> the app is not fully accessible. So either I’m missing something, and maybe 
> that’s where the Apple accessibility people can point out some thing that I’m 
> not doing right, or there’s just no way to do it. But her advice was absurd. 
> I mean unlabeled buttons are not a problem that’s going to be solved with all 
> the garbage that she had me doing. So I didn’t do it.
> 
> 
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Re: Bluetooth connectivity was re: Sounds question

[Anthony Vece]

I would just reconnect the earpiece.
Stay Safe
Anthony

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> On May 28, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Apple makes it easy for their AirPods and Bluetooth stuff made for apple easy 
> to pair. You must put your Plantronics headset in pairing mode and pair it 
> through the settings in Bluetooth.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>>> On May 28, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi everyone, I have a question for you all. I just received an iPhone 11 
>> mini. I can get my Apple EarPods to connect via Bluetooth with no problem. 
>> However, I also have a Plantronics Bluetooth earpiece that goes in one ear 
>> is the PLT Bluetooth and it is not even showing up in my settings when I go 
>> to look for my devices any suggestions on how to get it to show that device? 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Johnna Simmons
>> 
 On May 28, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
>>>  Are you using Siri to send texts? The sound is gone there.
>>> I think it should still work otherwise.
>>> I'll send a text at some point and confirm that. I almost never use Siri 
>>> for texting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard 
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 28, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
 
 Mine seems to work with emails, but not with texts. I liked the ascending 
 sound. It sort of sounded like a squeak from my granddaughter, Meredith. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Vicki W.
 Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 11:02 AM
 To: IPhone 
 Subject: Sounds question
 
 Hi,
 
 Since the last update my swoosh sound when I send a text message is 
 missing. I know this happened with others, even those who don't use Voice 
 Over. All my other sounds are working and the sound is set to play under 
 sounds, so is there another way to get it back or just wait!
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: An iPhone Question

[Anthony Vece]

I don’t know if you could remove them however, I’m sure you could move them to 
the bottom.

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> On May 27, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
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> 
> Hello all,
>  
> Is there any way of removing the camera and flashlight from the control 
> center, and from the lock screen?
>  
> When I go to control center, and double tap on reorder flashlight, or camera, 
> they’re still there when I go back to control center.
> I just read that I O S 14.6 has been released, are there any new features?
> Noe
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[Anthony Vece]

I just don’t care if people stare at me or not. If they wanna make me that 
important and take the time to stare at me that’s fine. Stay safe

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> On May 25, 2021, at 11:51 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> well, to each his own. I’d rather use tech than that awful cane, and let’s 
> face it everyone cares what people think of them. I grew up in a sighted 
> world. the fewer things I can use that are blind-specific the happier I am, 
> and we have no idea what these devices would look like. in a perfect world no 
> one should care what things look like, but we all have concerns about how we 
> look to other people. I’d hope I was surrounded by people who don’t care, and 
>  could be free of any judgment, but that’s not the case. if you’re at a place 
> where nothing truly bothers you I envy that, but I also don’t like the 
> attitude I’ve seen here that it’s a stupid waste of time. Advancements that 
> we can use are never a waste of time. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 25, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree that a cane does not help if somebody has no sense of direction, but 
>> to be embarrassed by it to make is not an issue and I think nobody should be 
>> embarrassed about whatever it is they need to be independent. This would be 
>> like somebody in a wheelchair being embarrassed that they have to use a 
>> wheelchair or somebody with a hearing aid being embarrassed they need one of 
>> those. How about people who lost a limb and have a prosthetic arm or leg, 
>> should they be embarrassed?
>> The fact is that we all are who we are and if you are embarrassed by the 
>> cane then where does that stop? Would you be embarrassed if you had to wear 
>> thick glasses and how about that future super backpack, people will still 
>> know that you are blind and the smart, high-tech content of said backpack 
>> will require all sorts of sensors and cameras to function which maybe more 
>> or less noticeable by others. And in any case, what do I care what others 
>> think? Maybe I care to a degree when it comes to people close to me, but if 
>> I were walking down the street and a bunch of idiots were openly pointing at 
>> me and laughing their heads off because of my cane then I would maybe pity 
>> them, but I sure wouldn't feel embarrassed by it.
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Re: Facebook

[Anthony Vece]

I updated and have had no prom.

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> On May 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Bobby Druesedow  wrote:
> 
> I updated, and it seems that they broke the favorites tab. When I try to 
> read favorite posts, it's jibberish. It reads something, but I'm not sure 
> what it's reading from. The other things I have looked at seem to be ok. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Robert stigile  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I see that there is an update to Facebook in my App Store.
> I’m wondering if anyone has updated it and if it breaks anything with 
> voiceover.
> 
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
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Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages

[Anthony Vece]

Try scrolling the screen. A lot of times that helps. Stay safe
Anthony

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> On Apr 27, 2021, at 5:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> There wasn’t such a button. Now that I’ve got it, I can’t get rid of it. I 
> did find in settings what I thought was going to be a place to turn it off 
> but when I restarted the phone, it required my 6-digit pass code. I’m very 
> disappointed. This is going to make the phone much harder for my wife to use 
> and learn on.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IoS 14.5 won't let me get past the code pages
>  
> Yes.
> There should have been a "Passcode Options" button, after pressing that, the 
> last item should be skip, or don't use, something like that.
> Worse case, create a simple passcode, then after you are through that stage, 
> go to the settings for passcodes and fingerprints and enter the passcode, 
> then go and turn it off, which will ask you to enter it again.
> Once you have jump through those lovely hoops, you will be done with the 
> passtcode.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
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>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I updated the se2020 to 14.5 and can’t get past the pass code screen. It 
> lets me skip touch id but I’m in a loop on the pass code screen. I don’t want 
> either and can’ seem to get around this. Am I missing something?
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Re: Stereo bluetooth headsets for Maria and all, was about single earpieces

[Anthony Vece]

You’re probably right.

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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 9:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The AfterShokz I think are primarily intended for voice listening, or for 
> people who are running, exercising, whatever, who are not focused on quality 
> music output.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 5:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Stereo bluetooth headsets for Maria and all, was about single 
> earpieces
>  
> Simon; aside from being able to hear what is around you I don’t find those 
> bone conduction headphones to be very good. I’ve tried them and music does 
> not sound as well as I believe it should. However; beauty is in the ear of 
> the beholder. Take care
> Stay safe
> Anthony
>  
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:33 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Or I’m just wondering
>  
> From: if the after shockz bone conduction headphones wouldn’t be a chcoice in 
> this case,
>  
> They go behind the head and don’t sit on your ears but infront.
>  
> viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 12:29 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Stereo bluetooth headsets for Maria and all, was about single 
> earpieces
>  
> What about the wrap-around kind, where instead of going over your head, they 
> wrap around behind your head?
> Try searching for that term, or calling a store, even Amazon customer 
> support, and describing what you want, so they can tell you what they carry 
> that might work foh you.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
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> 
> On Apr 25, 2021, at 11:34 PM, Mária Orovčíková  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard and all,
> sorry, I forrgot to mention that I am looking for a stereo headset that does 
> not go over the head either.
> I am looking for something like Plantronics m70 or like Apple wired 
> headphones (but not the airpods), I do not want to something that goes deep 
> into ear canal.
> Thanks.
> Maria
> 
> Dňa 26. 4. 2021 o 7:44 Richard Turner napísal(a):
> 
> 
> There are lots of over the head bluetooth headsets that do not go in the ear, 
> but most cover the ear.
> I have an older pair of Plantronics Beat Sense that are both wired and 
> bluetooth.
> They were listed at $200 5 or 6 years ago when my wife found them for $130.
> Then there are the AfterShokz bone conduction headsets that leave your ears 
> open and press on the bone just in front of your ear.
> If you search for stereo bluetooth headsets or bluetooth over the head 
> headsets, you can find lots that do not go in the ear.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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Re: Stereo bluetooth headsets for Maria and all, was about single earpieces

[Anthony Vece]

Simon; aside from being able to hear what is around you I don’t find those bone 
conduction headphones to be very good. I’ve tried them and music does not sound 
as well as I believe it should. However; beauty is in the ear of the beholder. 
Take care
Stay safe
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:33 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Or I’m just wondering
>  
> From: if the after shockz bone conduction headphones wouldn’t be a chcoice in 
> this case,
>  
> They go behind the head and don’t sit on your ears but infront.
>  
> viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
> Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 12:29 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Stereo bluetooth headsets for Maria and all, was about single 
> earpieces
>  
> What about the wrap-around kind, where instead of going over your head, they 
> wrap around behind your head?
> Try searching for that term, or calling a store, even Amazon customer 
> support, and describing what you want, so they can tell you what they carry 
> that might work foh you.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2021, at 11:34 PM, Mária Orovčíková  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard and all,
> sorry, I forrgot to mention that I am looking for a stereo headset that does 
> not go over the head either.
> I am looking for something like Plantronics m70 or like Apple wired 
> headphones (but not the airpods), I do not want to something that goes deep 
> into ear canal.
> Thanks.
> Maria
> 
> Dňa 26. 4. 2021 o 7:44 Richard Turner napísal(a):
> 
> There are lots of over the head bluetooth headsets that do not go in the ear, 
> but most cover the ear.
> I have an older pair of Plantronics Beat Sense that are both wired and 
> bluetooth.
> They were listed at $200 5 or 6 years ago when my wife found them for $130.
> Then there are the AfterShokz bone conduction headsets that leave your ears 
> open and press on the bone just in front of your ear.
> If you search for stereo bluetooth headsets or bluetooth over the head 
> headsets, you can find lots that do not go in the ear.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas,average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice

[Anthony Vece]

I use the same voice.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> Someone was asking which Tom we use, it's Tom enhanced. We really like his 
> voice. As I said we use Tom on nvda on the computer. Interestingly enough, 
> Tom is used for the automated system for the phone carrier total wireless.
> - Original Message - From: "Duane Steele" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
> 
> 
> Just an observation. I had used Alex for a while, and went back to Samantha. 
> Today, because several of you have mentioned Tom, I decided to download and 
> try Tom. I like this voice. However, when using my Braille device, and 
> changing the braille output and input modes, I did notice that Tom doesn't 
> pronounce the letter t in the words "outpuut and input". But otherwise, I 
> like Tom's voice. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Arlene  wrote:
>> 
>> We also use Tom on the iPhone, and also on nvda on the computer.
>> - Original Message - From: "Star Gazer" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
>> 
>> 
>> Me too, I also use Tom enhanced
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 24, 2021, at 15:25, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I stopped using Alex because of those kind of strange pronunciation 
>>> problems.
>>> I use Tom Enhanced and don't find nearly the number of bad pronunciations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>>> what they become by it."
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Terri Stimmel
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 12:13 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Interesting discovery with Voiceover, and the Alex voice
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have the iPhone 12 mini. I have had it for a few months now. I love it! 
>>> Before I got it, I was using the 10 XR.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I have noticed something odd. I can't say for certain when I
>>> first noticed it. And I am also not quite sure if it is somehow my
>>> phone, or the Voiceover voice of Alex.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But I have noticed that some words sound odd to me. I can't think of any
>>> examples at the moment. And for this I do apologize. It seems though
>>> that letters sound as though they are dropped. Or that the word is not
>>> written correctly. Now I do tend to mis-spell a good deal, and I have to
>>> go back and correct stuff.
>>> 
>>> However, the other day i was sending a text with a word in it that ended
>>> in the letters E, D. I can't remember what the word was now, or I would
>>> have just written it. But when I read my text back to make sure it was
>>> correct, I had to view the word character by character, to make sure it
>>> was correct.
>>> 
>>> It was. But Alex spoke it as though the d wasn't there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>> 
>>> Does it happen with other voices?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have tried other voices in the past. But I always come back to Alex.
>>> It used to seem clearer to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What do you all think?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
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Re: Apple getting cheap

[Anthony Vece]

Well, let’s be thankful for what we have. If you think back to 2009 or 2008 we 
were just happy to have a flip phone or a candy bar phone with talking caller 
ID. Now we can just about do anything on our phones that anyone else can do. So 
if we need to buy a charger the charger is interchangeable with almost any 
cable. Again let’s be thankful for what we have. Take care stay safe

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> I completely agree.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karl 
> Smith
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 1:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
> 
> I agree with you but I won't make excuses for them. If I can buy cables and 
> chargers for $5 or so than they can surely get them for a lot less. This is 
> simply a way for them to gouge more money from us. If they used any kind of 
> standard cable like USB C it would be a somewhat different thing but the 
> lightening connecter is their own and no one else's so they will make money 
> from us when we buy them no matter where we get them.
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> 
> __
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
> 
> Hear are my thoughts.  Yes they should include chargers.  However they won't. 
>  Will I not buy Apple because of it?  No.  Apple has better accessibility 
> then Android.  That is what I will base my choice on.  What has the better 
> accessibility.  That for now is Apple.  Android is still about 50 to 40% 
> behind Apple.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
> brown
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
> 
> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get 
> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods when 
> they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them in the 
> box.
> 
>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where 
>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or Google 
>> with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just don’t need 
>> all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have an iPad 
>> charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just fine. And of 
>> course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see power block 
>> which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly break the bank.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I also 
>>> definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a convenient and 
>>> specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut the cost of 
>>> production and logistics and still charge the same under the cover of 
>>> being environmentally conscious.
>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
>>> Cristóbal
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>>> 
>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all the 
>>> chargers they need and more.
>>> That is certainly  true in our household.
>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case.
>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean 
>>> now to last many life times.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>> 
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>>> 
>>> From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with 
>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have to 
>>> remember that apple's main thing is to make money. O shure apple has 
>>> dun good for the blind and vi comunidey with voice over and stuff how 
>>> ever you have