Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS

[CrazyEyez]

This is true. If you stop on a subscription, you can't go further to the right to see the next one.Really easy fix though.Slide 1 finger from top to bottom and it should work for you that way.Not the most ideal way to do things, but i'd rather have this than nothing at all.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 2, 2023, at 2:30 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:Hi no it is not gone as far as the subscription bug now when you swipe right vo reads the subscriptions but you can’t swipe left since vo will continu to read the subscription again and again and again so if you have 3 subscriptions vo will only read the first one in the list and nothing changes when you choose the picker and choose things like date I am using a I phone 8. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CrazyEyezSent: March 2, 2023 2:03 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS Hello,  The bug appears to have been squished.From my understanding it had something to do with apple servers and not the IOS itself. Currently as of this writing, I can open app store, tap my account, subscriptions and they display correctly.I'm on an iPhone 14 plus running IOS 16.3.1. Also good luck with your call tonight. 😄 Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 2, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Ellie Hopper  wrote:Hi, I have a call booked for this evening with someone from Apple's support team to talk about this. I haven't gone this rout for an issue before so wish me luck. Ellie On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jessica Dail  wrote:Hi,This screen is read correctly with voiceover on my iPhone 13 pro max which is running the ios16.4 developer beta but on my iPad pro 11-inch 3rd generation, this screen is still broken. I’m not on the beta on my ipad, but am seriously considering changing that.Can anyone else on here who has an iPad confirm the same behavior?Thanks,Jessica Dail  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold SchmidtSent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 4:52 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS It is fixed for me,  also.Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Mar 2, 2023, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: This has been fixed at least for me as of just now (9:30 PM Pacific Time).My subscriptions read again perfectly with when they expire/renew etc.This is not iOS dependent since as Davy reported, this was happening on iOS 15, the public release version of iOS 16 as well as the Beta.When I checked it tonight it already worked for me before I upgraded to iOS 16.4 public beta 2 and it still is fine after the update.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 2:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS It is still present on iOS 16.4 Beta 2.  Definitely not directly related to iOS.  Get Outlook for iOSFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:52:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS  I received a reply from Apple Accessibility this morning which states that they are aware of the issue and they are investigating.I assume this may have had something to do with the App Store and certain App Store changes have always been done on the backend and they are not necessarily connected to iOS itself which would explain why this is happening with iOS 15, iOS 16.3 as well as iOS 16.4 public beta.I would think this is something which Apple will fix sooner rather than later.As for using screen recognition this still does not work for me even if I wait 10 seconds or 20 seconds, I have backed out of subscriptions after turning it on and gone back and it does not give me anything except what I also see without screen recognition.-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPSThats not 100% right, the apps for which I had subscribed yes I can click them all but I donot know which I have been selecting while these buttons are not labeled at least for me.Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht-Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens V

Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS

[CrazyEyez]

Hello, The bug appears to have been squished.From my understanding it had something to do with apple servers and not the IOS itself.Currently as of this writing, I can open app store, tap my account, subscriptions and they display correctly.I'm on an iPhone 14 plus running IOS 16.3.1.Also good luck with your call tonight. 😄Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 2, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Ellie Hopper  wrote:Hi,I have a call booked for this evening with someone from Apple's support team to talk about this. I haven't gone this rout for an issue before so wish me luck.EllieOn Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jessica Dail  wrote:







Hi,
This screen is read correctly with voiceover on my iPhone 13 pro max which is running the ios16.4 developer beta but on my iPad pro 11-inch 3rd generation, this screen is still broken. I’m not on the beta on my ipad, but am seriously
 considering changing that.
Can anyone else on here who has an iPad confirm the same behavior?
Thanks,
Jessica Dail
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS


 
It is fixed for me,  also.

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3



On Mar 2, 2023, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


 
This has been fixed at least for me as of just now (9:30 PM Pacific Time).
My subscriptions read again perfectly with when they expire/renew etc.
This is not iOS dependent since as Davy reported, this was happening on iOS 15, the public release version of iOS 16 as well as the Beta.
When I checked it tonight it already worked for me before I upgraded to iOS 16.4 public beta 2 and it still is fine after the update.
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of William James
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS


 



It is still present on iOS 16.4 Beta 2.  Definitely not directly related to iOS.


 



 

Get Outlook for iOS







From:
viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:52:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS


 




I received a reply from Apple Accessibility this morning which states that they are aware of the issue and they are investigating.
I assume this may have had something to do with the App Store and certain App Store changes have always been done on the backend and they are not necessarily connected to iOS itself which would explain why this is happening with iOS 15, iOS 16.3 as well as
 iOS 16.4 public beta.
I would think this is something which Apple will fix sooner rather than later.
As for using screen recognition this still does not work for me even if I wait 10 seconds or 20 seconds, I have backed out of subscriptions after turning it on and gone back and it does not give me anything except what I also see without screen recognition.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS

Thats not 100% right, the apps for which I had subscribed yes I can click them all but I donot know which I have been selecting while these buttons are not labeled at least for me.
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Vicky Collins
Verzonden: dinsdag 28 februari 2023 6:18
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Onderwerp: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS

Although it wouldn’t be ideal by any means, when I checked just now, I could turn on screen recognition while in the list of apps to which I was subscribed, and I could then actually view that list of applications. I could also double tap on one of the apps
 to which I was subscribed, then turn off screen recognition, And then I could see the option to cancel that subscription if I wanted to do so.
 

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> On Feb 27, 2023, at 11:14 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> After experienncing the same results as reported, I decided to call Apple Accessibility, rather than email. He tested it on his iphone and was rewarded with the same mess. He says t

Re: Logitech k380 Bluetooth keyboard

[CrazyEyez]

Good morning,
To put the keyboard in pairing mode, you press  either F1, F2, or F3.
Each key corresponds to a different device to which it is paired.

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> On Feb 22, 2023, at 9:28 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Of course, it goes without saying that as soon as I sent a message about it, 
> I found the switch.
> 
>> On 22 Feb 2023, at 14:12, Alex Stone  wrote:
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>> I’ve just bought one of these keyboards, can anyone tell me how to switch 
>> it on and put it in pairing mode?
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Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[CrazyEyez]

Hello,

I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to record and share that demo.
It definitely helped me.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2022, at 11:40 PM, Earle  wrote:
> 
> I finally had a chance to record the demo. Sorry it took so long. Here's the 
> link and feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
> 
> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0f8dBwiuc-z7_jqaiXrQteE5Q#Ringtone_Demo
> 
> Earle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Earle  wrote:
>>> 
>> I haven't forgotten about the demo. I will have to record it tomorrow. I 
>> won't be home today. The last couple of days have been busier than usual. 
>> Sorry for the delay. I'll get it done tomorrow.
>> 
>> Earle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:44 PM, jasmine.kot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
>>> Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Earle
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 5:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>> 
>>> I'll record the demo tonight and put the dropbox link in this group. I'll 
>>> send you the link privately as well Jasmine. I received the email you sent 
>>> me.
>>> 
>>> Earle
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:16 AM, Gordon  wrote:
 
 Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. 
 Sounds like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.
 
>> On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:
> Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. 
> The best email address to use is:
> rowdyameri...@gmail.com
> Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could record 
> you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.
> 
> Earle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn 
>> this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Earle 
>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>> 
>> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in 
>> my previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as 
>> recently as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
>> Earle
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to 
>>> get the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Jasmine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>> 
>>> 
>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Earle 
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
>>> To:
>>> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>> 
>>> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R 
>>> file into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a 
>>> ringtone and it will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the 
>>> only way I have been able to put M for our files into my ringtones and 
>>> alerts.
>>> Earle
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Vaxination Card In Apple Wallet in Canada?

[CrazyEyez]

The ontario website says you can put your vaccination certificate in health on 
iPhone running IOS 15 or later.
I can try with a family member's phone and let you know how hard it is to set 
up.
Of course if you don't live in Ontario, you'll have to check with your province.
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> On Oct 25, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> 
> Hi, Group.
> iOS15.1 says that vaxination card can be kept in Apple Wallet. Can Canadians 
> do that too?
> Thanks!
> Thanks!
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Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

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Can't be that much of a choke hold if you come back to be abused by the apple 
products to play your beloved games.


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> On Aug 24, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I hear you Sieghard! I tend to avoid such inflammatory words and phrases 
> myself because I want people to read the content of my message and not get 
> caught up in any colorful choice of words. I also realize that some people 
> make a very informed decision on what device to use, and I don’t want to cast 
> any dispersion on anyone just because they have different priorities and make 
> a choice I wouldn’t have made. I’m not perfect, but I try to treat everyone 
> and the decisions they’ve made with respect. I also try to talk in examples 
> rather than making blanket statements.
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>  
> Why do people have to be so intense and use terms like "choke hold" It's very 
> simple, if you don't like the way Apple does things use an Android phone, but 
> what's the point in these words or terms which are utterly subjective. I have 
> used an iPhone since 2009 and not once have I felt "choked", if you have then 
> I'm glad you now have an Android phone which gives you all the freedom to do 
> exactly what you want although I am sure that even the grat platform of the 
> Android OS has at least one or two drawbacks or maybe it is entirely perfect 
> by now. Whatever works for the user is what you should use.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: August 23, 2021 6:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>  
> Devin, I too have escaped the choke hold of Apple. My iPhone is used to play 
> games that android does not have. I also get to continue using an accessible 
> keyboard like Flick Type.😌 And before I'm told I'm no longer welcome in the 
> group, I still update my phone & participate in the public beta program. & 
> use my iPad for my creative writing course.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
> Donna
>  
> 
> So, I can no longer participate in discussion just because I, who have been 
> using Apple devices for years, no longer use mine regularly and promote the 
> fact that Android is a viable alternative when huge issues of Apple's control 
> pops up? I'm glad you're not a moderator.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:21 PM Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> I wrote him as well.  I primarily use MBraille when I don't have a keybaord 
> available.
> I do not mean to minimize the impact on dedicated FlickType users; and I 
> wonder if somehow this issue between FlickType and the App Store/Apple was 
> brought  to mainstream media's attention if something more would be 
> accomplished.
> I was partly reacting to someone who has already jumped ship to Android whom 
> I hope stops contributing to Apple discussions if he is no longer going to 
> use Apple products.
> Personally, I can braille faster than I could use FlickType, but I fully 
> understand the impact it would make on me if MBraille had to go away because 
> of some unknown issue with Apple, and I would have the same reaction you and 
> others are having to FlickType's removal.  
> But, I have bluetooth keyboards and braille displays to use if MBraille faced 
> the same fate; so I still say, it is not the end of the world; but a damnable 
> inconvenience, which probably should not have to happen.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> 
> On Aug 23, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard,
>  
> While I agree that the loss of FlickType is not the end of the world, it’s 
> going to dramatically impact how I use my iPhone. I much prefer typing my own 
> content as opposed to dictating it and FlickType has made it very easy to 
> compose text messages and emails with my iPhone’s screen fairly quickly 
> without the need for another keyboard.
>  
> Just out of curiosity, how much do you use FlickType for input on your 
> iDevice?
>  
> I will certainly adapt to the loss of FlickType but my speed and accuracy of 
> input is going to take a big hit. I did write an email to Phil Schiller 
> expressing my concerns but realistically, I’m not holding my breath that it 
> will make any difference. I do believe that users are responsible for 
> providing feedback when an app’s accessibility is broken or an accessible app 
> is totally withdrawn as in this case due to some dispute with the App Store. 
> I’ll continually encourage those in our community to provide this feedback 
> because sometimes, the squeaky wheel does get the 

Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

[CrazyEyez]

Man its 2021. People are a bunch of dramatic crybabies.
They're probably dramatized apple doesn't have their favourite feature.
Never understood the love for these stupid alternate typing methods anyway. Use 
braille screen input.


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> On Aug 24, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why do people have to be so intense and use terms like "choke hold" It's very 
> simple, if you don't like the way Apple does things use an Android phone, but 
> what's the point in these words or terms which are utterly subjective. I have 
> used an iPhone since 2009 and not once have I felt "choked", if you have then 
> I'm glad you now have an Android phone which gives you all the freedom to do 
> exactly what you want although I am sure that even the grat platform of the 
> Android OS has at least one or two drawbacks or maybe it is entirely perfect 
> by now. Whatever works for the user is what you should use.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: August 23, 2021 6:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>  
> Devin, I too have escaped the choke hold of Apple. My iPhone is used to play 
> games that android does not have. I also get to continue using an accessible 
> keyboard like Flick Type.😌 And before I'm told I'm no longer welcome in the 
> group, I still update my phone & participate in the public beta program. & 
> use my iPad for my creative writing course.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
> Donna
>  
> 
> So, I can no longer participate in discussion just because I, who have been 
> using Apple devices for years, no longer use mine regularly and promote the 
> fact that Android is a viable alternative when huge issues of Apple's control 
> pops up? I'm glad you're not a moderator.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:21 PM Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> I wrote him as well.  I primarily use MBraille when I don't have a keybaord 
> available.
> I do not mean to minimize the impact on dedicated FlickType users; and I 
> wonder if somehow this issue between FlickType and the App Store/Apple was 
> brought  to mainstream media's attention if something more would be 
> accomplished.
> I was partly reacting to someone who has already jumped ship to Android whom 
> I hope stops contributing to Apple discussions if he is no longer going to 
> use Apple products.
> Personally, I can braille faster than I could use FlickType, but I fully 
> understand the impact it would make on me if MBraille had to go away because 
> of some unknown issue with Apple, and I would have the same reaction you and 
> others are having to FlickType's removal.  
> But, I have bluetooth keyboards and braille displays to use if MBraille faced 
> the same fate; so I still say, it is not the end of the world; but a damnable 
> inconvenience, which probably should not have to happen.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 23, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard,
>  
> While I agree that the loss of FlickType is not the end of the world, it’s 
> going to dramatically impact how I use my iPhone. I much prefer typing my own 
> content as opposed to dictating it and FlickType has made it very easy to 
> compose text messages and emails with my iPhone’s screen fairly quickly 
> without the need for another keyboard.
>  
> Just out of curiosity, how much do you use FlickType for input on your 
> iDevice?
>  
> I will certainly adapt to the loss of FlickType but my speed and accuracy of 
> input is going to take a big hit. I did write an email to Phil Schiller 
> expressing my concerns but realistically, I’m not holding my breath that it 
> will make any difference. I do believe that users are responsible for 
> providing feedback when an app’s accessibility is broken or an accessible app 
> is totally withdrawn as in this case due to some dispute with the App Store. 
> I’ll continually encourage those in our community to provide this feedback 
> because sometimes, the squeaky wheel does get the grease.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>  
> I  Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch to the 
> “somewhat dark side, grin” will do so, which is what it would take to impact 
> Apple’s wallet.  A few people switching to Android certainly won’t.
>  
> I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too bad, but 
> not the end of the world.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
> Prat

Re: Battery Is not Charging and I can't Type

[CrazyEyez]

Hi,
Maybe its a dumb idea, but have  you tried backing up your phone and doing a 
restore?
If it doesn't help, i'd take it to apple.
See what they say, specially if your device still has warranty.
Good luck.

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> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:21 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, Group.
> Vancouver is in the strong grip of a massive heatwave but I am not sure 
> whether my problem has anything to do with heat.
> Since yesterday, my iPhone8 with iOS14.6 is not charging beyond %80 and the 
> phone has become least responsive or no response at all when I type.
> My battery is still in warranty, should I take it to the AppleStore?
> Thanks!
> Thanks!
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Re: Update on screen recognition

[CrazyEyez]

I'm thrilled to hear that i'm not the only 1.
I had it in safari, and well. It was blank for a while until I managed to spin 
the rotor at the right time to turn it off.
Hope its possible to fix it soon.


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> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:45 PM, Grace  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I have been in the same boat since yesterday morning Australian time.
> 
>> On 11 Jun 2021, at 8:44 am, Marcos Rodrigues  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good ebening.
>> 
>> I just found out that my recognition is not working at all in any app. I 
>> tested in a couple of apps and my VO does not work when screen recognition 
>> is on.
>> 
>> I also tried Donas suggestion but no results.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[CrazyEyez]

lol what happens when it rains and you don't have good signal, or if your 
batteries are low, or if you have to send your unit in for service or repair?
You get folks reliant on tech, and they're useless without it.
Cool idea, but it'll never ever replace the cane, or a dog which loves you and 
plays with you.


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> On May 24, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> I don’t see the harm in them/companies creating different options for 
> travel. The robot assistant still feels a ways off for me. I commend them for 
> looking outside the box.
> 
> I personally think that a robot dog, or robot helping me walk down the road 
> is probably the future, but it still won’t replace the companionship of the 
> guide dog. The will never be able to replace that aspect no matter how hard 
> they try.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:12 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree.  Also, what about getting you around construction or stopping you 
>> at curbs or steps?
>> Secondary navigation aids are a great idea and I for one would love to test 
>> some out but I’ll stick with my fury friend as well.  
>> I did try a robot guide in a study a while back and it was definitely  
>> interesting but I still feel safer with my dog or Cain.
>> Johna
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
>> AA MAY
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
>> so. - The Washington Post
>> 
>> I think that such equipment could be useful as a secondary mobility aid, but 
>> really don’t see it replacing a cane or a dog. It isn’t enough to know that 
>> a person is approaching you, you need to know which way to go to avoid that 
>> person or obstacle. It would require tremendous concentration when 
>> navigating a busy shop or trying to find your way back to the exit.
>> Think I’ll stick with my dog, but I can see that one day there will be 
>> useful secondary mobility aids.
>> Alison
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
>> CrazyEyez
>> Sent: 23 May 2021 22:50
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
>> so. - The Washington Post
>> 
>> honestly this is stupid.
>> Another money grab.
>> You'll never ever replace the cane.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Thought this might be interesting to read.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/
>> 
>> Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
>> Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace canes 
>> and guide dogs
>> 
>> Dalvin Brown
>> March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
>> 
>> Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack to 
>> help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel) 
>> Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
>> backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s designed 
>> to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous 
>> situations like crosswalks or strangers.
>> The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
>> face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. 
>> Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as 
>> progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision 
>> issues better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more 
>> independently.
>> The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
>> took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system 
>> that seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.
>> Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish K. 
>> Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
>> specializes in computer vision for robots.
>> What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.
>> “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems to 
>> me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve been 
>> teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot see 
>> things and need help,” Mahendra

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[CrazyEyez]

honestly this is stupid.
Another money grab.
You'll never ever replace the cane.


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> On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Thought this might be interesting to read.
> 
> 
>> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/
>> 
>> Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
>> Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace canes 
>> and guide dogs
>> 
>> Dalvin BrownMarch 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
>> 
>> Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack to 
>> help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel)
>> Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
>> backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s designed 
>> to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous 
>> situations like crosswalks or strangers.
>> 
>> The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
>> face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. 
>> Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as 
>> progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision 
>> issues better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more 
>> independently.
>> 
>> The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
>> took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system 
>> that seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.
>> 
>> Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish K. 
>> Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
>> specializes in computer vision for robots.
>> 
>> What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.
>> 
>> “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems to 
>> me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve been 
>> teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot see 
>> things and need help,” Mahendran said.
>> 
>> There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It looks like 
>> an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, inside. A 
>> match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.
>> 
>> In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny holes to 
>> conceal an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K camera 
>> captures depth and color information used to help people avoid things like 
>> hanging branches. The camera can also be embedded in a fanny pack or other 
>> waist-worn pouches.
>> 
>> The spatial camera, built by the computer vision company Luxonis, can read 
>> signs, detect crosswalks and see coming changes in elevation.
>> 
>> Bluetooth earphones allow the user to communicate with the system and vice 
>> versa. So the wearer can ask out loud for location information, and the 
>> system will tell them where they are. If the camera spots a threat like an 
>> incoming pedestrian, it can tell the wearer.
>> 
>> It’s too soon to know how much such a device would cost consumers, but 
>> several start-ups and organizations are working to solve the same issues, 
>> and the tech doesn’t come cheap.
>> 
>> WeWALK’s smart cane with obstacle detection sells for $600, 10 times as much 
>> as an ordinary white cane. OrCam MyEye Pro, a wireless smart camera that 
>> reads what’s in front of you, runs $4,250.
>> 
>> Social media has upped its accessibility game. But deaf creators say it has 
>> a long way to go.
>> 
>> Researchers at the University of Georgia went with a backpack design because 
>> it would help visually impaired people avoid unwanted attention. They used 
>> Intel’s Movidius computing chip because it was small and powerful enough to 
>> run advanced AI functions with low latency.
>> 
>> The next step is to raise funds and expand testing. They hope to one day 
>> unleash an open-source, AI-based, visual-assistance system. The researchers 
>> have formed a team called Mira, made up of some visually impaired volunteers.
>> 
>> “We want this solution to be inclusive and as transparent as possible,” 
>> Mahendran said. “Our main motto is to increase the involvement of visually 
>> impaired people in their daily activities and reduce their dependency on 
>> others.”
>> 
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Re: Drafts not deleting from email

[CrazyEyez]

Thanks for that.
Its been driving me crazy for a few days.


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> On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
> 
> I had this problem the other day. It was making me crazy. You could be out 
> of the draft mailbox, but it always showed them at the bottom and when you 
> open it to delete it it would simply put it back there so, I started another 
> one and just put random keystrokes end and then canceled when it suggested 
> delete I press the delete it did not instead it showed me both drafts I could 
> hit the delete then and it deleted them so they were side messages. They have 
> not returned since then. A strange way out, but it works.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple knows about this, but interested people might want to write to them 
>> anyway. They confirmed on their end that if a single unsent draft is in the 
>> drafts folder, it stays there even if you have tried to cancel and then 
>> delete. For whatever reason I may change my mind at sending something, and 
>> this is truly annoying to have to end up sending to myself in order to get 
>> out of the draft mailbox
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Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[CrazyEyez]

if you got your watch within the last 30 days, just return it and get a new 
one. lol.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Wayne,
> From what others have said, I think you are lucky in that if you reset the 
> watch, you may lose that ability.
> I've heard from 4 or 5 people using the same watch who either reset the watch 
> or updated before trying the Siri voice and none of them can use it.
> The Apple engineers are aware of this issue and I hope will resolve it 
> relatively soon, which could be next year as software development goes.
> 
> Thanks for all the info.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
> 
> Richard,
> I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
> 7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when running 
> WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no issues.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: 
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5ba4ee9302a748797b5e08d88b15ec3c%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412273555278734%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
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>> 1r12Ki484%3D&reserved=0
>> 
>> *I’m not the card shark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>> 
>> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and 
>> am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same 
>> voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>> You are correct.
>>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>>> I really thought about it though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>>>> I have lo

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[CrazyEyez]

You are correct.
Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
I really thought about it though.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is a watch 
> 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were running Watch OS 7, 
> but then updated.I'll send that thought off to the guy I'm working with at 
> Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>> 
>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>> The other watch is just fine.
>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice back 
>> and nothing works.
>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello again,
>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who 
>>> was great!, I'm left with a question.
>>> 
>>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, 
>>> do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>>> 
>>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' 
>>> has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to 
>>> know as well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af14a2c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412116217154045%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=mpIVtxO9FssxHAPWfHRh6W9XxIQXJUaWPxY%2FQCTNl9A%3D&reserved=0
>>> 
>>> *I’m not the card shark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>>> 
>>> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the 
>>> Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on 
>>> my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the 
>>> voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the 
>>> faster processor and innards in the Series 6.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
>>>> I may try again.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>>>> of flying.
>>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>>>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>> 
>>>> Check out my web site at:
>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>>> ur

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

[CrazyEyez]

Hi,

My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
Both are 44 mm wifi only models.

Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
The other watch is just fine.
I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice back and 
nothing works.
Cellular has nothing to do with it.
I guess some are more lucky than others.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello again,
> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who 
> was great!, I'm left with a question.
> 
> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, do 
> you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
> 
> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' 
> has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to know 
> as well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
> 
> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the Series 
> 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on my 
> Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the voice 
> from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the faster 
> processor and innards in the Series 6.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
>> I may try again.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> Check out my web site at:
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637411380266085664%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yuBw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOd
>> P8OdPcE%3D&reserved=0> om/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb37
>> 8a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7
>> C637411380266085664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
>> oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yu
>> Bw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOdP8OdPcE%3D&reserved=0>
>> 
>> *I’m not the card shark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> I got my Apple Watch SE several days ago, and I had it set up for the 
>> Siri mail voice, which is what I have on my phone. But the internation 
>> was all messed up, pitch changes etc. So I went back to Samantha. I 
>> don’t think you can get all those other invoices like Tom etc. And I 
>> can’t tell you now how or why this Siri mail turned up, because it’s a 
>> new device and I don’t remember. But the fluctuating intonation was 
>> crazy making. So if the female voice does that too, it’s really not too good.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>  It seems like the setting for VO on the apple watch series 6 says 
>> that if you select Siri voice, VO will use that voice.I downloaded the 
>> Siri female voice, but I cannot get that setting to work.I'm stuck 
>> with Samantha, who is not my favorite voice.I'd rather use Tom 
>> enhanced or the Siri female voice, but I do not see a way to change 
>> from Samantha.Any tips? I just got my watch yesterday.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> exte

Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are

[CrazyEyez]

Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my 
cane in the other.
How am I to carry stuff?
Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was 
a chest rig for your phone.
Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to 
contracting the virus by bumping into someone.
Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine.
Continue on living your lives.
Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get 
you!



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> On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are 
> attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would 
> give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his 
> visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time 
> being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from 
> people.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
> On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing 
> the plot.
>  
> I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell 
> where the closest person is,
>  
> If I walk in to someone,
> I just hope she is attractive,
> Smart and holds a good conversation  and is not old enough to be my mother or 
> young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid).
>  
> Otherwise 
> People should get out of my way!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of karuna 
> Chopra
> Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm
> To: ViPhone 
> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
>  
>  
>  
> Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical 
> use for us? 
>  
> The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot 
> reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of.
> 
> First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone 
> is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or 
> meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound 
> corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view.
> 
> Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. 
> For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a 
> person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. 
> After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they 
> care about is staying two paces away.
> 
> The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and 
> hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets 
> closer.
> 
> Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the 
> world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. 
> Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could 
> make a person want a bit of help in that regard.
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Read the full article here 
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Re: What do you like about your apple watches?

[CrazyEyez]

I'm also getting an apple watch.
I'm leaning toward the 6 because of the somewhat faster processor, blood oxygen 
tracking, and the ECG.
Most likely I won't be using those features extensively, but i'm keeping the 
watch for 2 years at least, so why not start with the best I can get at the 
time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I've got a Series 6 watch. I was excited about the blood oxygen
> monitor and have found it useful. Prior to the Series 6, I mostly used
> the watch for vibrating the time and tracking other health items like
> steps and heart rate. Now though, I am using it to track sleep in
> addition to monitor my blood oxygen. If you can afford it, I would
> recommend the Apple Watch SE, since it has nearly everything on the
> Series 6 minus a couple of things. Plus, it will run a lot better and
> be more stable with VoiceOver than the cheaper Series 3.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/27/20, goshawk on horseback  
>> wrote:
>> especially for an open water swimmer, it is a super useful device, as I tend
>> 
>> to rather lose track of time when having a good swim, so being able to
>> access that, plus the vibrating alarm, which one can set if one needs to
>> head back to shore at a particular time, makes it even more useful still.
>> agreed on the battery issue, could do better/last longer.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 4:02 AM
>> Subject: RE: What do you like about your apple watches?
>> 
>> 
>> Everything although I'd love it even more if the battery would last more
>> than a day without charging.
>> 
>> It's just an extension of my phone but a fitness tracker for when I
>> exercise.
>> 
>> And get the new watch SE unless you need the Blood O2  meter unless you
>> really really need to know what your blood o2 level is.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce
>> 
>> Weisenborn
>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2020 4:54 pm
>> To: Listserv Viphone 
>> Subject: What do you like about your apple watches?
>> 
>> I am thinking about getting an Apple Watch for the first time. I recently
>> bought an iPhone 11 Pro. What do you all like best about your watches? What
>> 
>> do you not like? What advice would you give me about choosing to buy one?
>> Any suggestions and thoughts are greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully excluding disabled people from public betas · Change.org

[CrazyEyez]

Honestly, people are dumb.
They'll start a petition over anything, even if its their fault something 
happened.
I don't feel bad for you in the least.
We should start a petition to remove the idiot who started this whole mess from 
the list so they don't clog our emails with their wining.
Moderator remove this garbage thread please.
It shows true stupidity.
Where has the comprehension gone?

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> On Aug 16, 2020, at 2:16 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> I can't believe such a petition was started!!🙄🤦🏻‍♀️ This petition was 
> started because an Apple watch user went against Apple's WARNING to NEVER 
> install beta versions of IOS on ANY Appple device that is YOUR main device! 
> Of course, this person just HAD to have the beta update & installed the beta 
> version on their Apple watch that they RELY on & USE daily!  Beta versions of 
> any program WILL have bugs. The fact that Apple is a company that stands 
> behind their products making them accessible for the blind & those with other 
> disabilities, does NOT exclude Apple's beta versions of IOS from having bugs. 
> Nor does this bug prevent those who are blind taking part in the public beta 
> testing process. Apple was FULLY aware of the voiceover bug Associated with 
> ALL Apple watches. And fully WARNED voiceover users with Apple watches of the 
> bug. Apple also informed voiceover users that they were working on fixing the 
> voiceover bug, so that voiceover users could participate in the public beta 
> testing program. Placing the blame on Apple & criticizing Apple for a problem 
> that they were working toward fixing, is wrong. The Blame solely lies with 
> Apple watch user(s), who in their poor judgement decided to install the 
> public beta on a device, in which is used daily. 
> 
> It is very important that blind iDevice users participate in Apple's beta 
> testing program, otherwise voiceover or low vision features of the iDevices 
> would always have major bugs, making the iDevices unusable. Apple is a large 
> company. The population that is blind & who use Apple products is very small. 
> If this type of placing blame where it is obvious it does not belong & 
> publically criticizing Apple for something that  at the time was out of their 
> control, but Apple was working toward fixing: Apple is in the end going to do 
> 1 of 2 things 1. No longer let blind users participate in the beta testing 
> process. Apple can do this by stopping all public beta testing. 2. Apple 
> throws in the towel, giving up on trying to make their products accessible 
> for such a small population of people. Neither of these scenarios are in the 
> best interest of blind iDevice users.
> 
> When beta testing follow Apple's guidelines or otherwise DO NOT complain when 
> your device stops working!  
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Re: $300 Payment By ApplePay?

[CrazyEyez]

I do not use apple pay, so I do not know for sure.
However, In Canada we have tap. Pretty much you hold your card over the reader 
instead of inserting it.
The limit for that is $100.
Anything more and you're out of luck.
Because apple pay works on a similar principle, i'd imagine that the $100 limit 
would be in place.
I'm  interested to find out if this is the case.

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> On Dec 10, 2019, at 7:28 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> 
> Hi, list.
> I am told that I can not make a payment of more than $100 by ApplePay, is 
> that correct?
> Thanks!
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Re: accessible measuring app?

[CrazyEyez]

I found one on ebay if you have an account.
Here's the link if you are interested.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264469004125



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> On Sep 20, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Bullis  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe the talking tape measure is in the Maxi Aids catalog or the
> Independent Living Aids catalog. I ordered it from one of those about
> five years ago, but can't remember which one.
> Matthew
> 
>> On 9/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Doing a Google search did give me this:
>> Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the
>> Blind
>> 
>> You can of course contact Cobalt directly in
>> England,
>> they’ll ship to you as far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs
>> 52.95 British Pounds which converts approx. to
>> $66 to
>> $68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange
>> rate On this Horizons for the Blind
>> Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to
>> ship it from England.
>> I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any
>> more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send
>> them back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells
>> them and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge
>> mark-up on stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows
>> it’s out of stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British
>> Pounds converts to approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost
>> double.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app?
>> 
>> I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a
>> Click Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to
>> do stuff with any degree of accuracy.
>> There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is
>> somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling
>> out a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the
>> Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can
>> give you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule
>> is accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm
>> which is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32.
>> Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of
>> course even better.
>> The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16
>> and if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the
>> length of the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to
>> measure the inside of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something
>> and push a button to add that measurement to memory, then measure the next
>> item and add it and so on and in the end push a button to get a total. This
>> can be handy if you do things like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16
>> foot length so I could go and measure several walls and add up each
>> measurement until I get close to 16 feet and this way I can minimize waste.
>> The Cobalt can also be set to read out in inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25
>> inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side you can do metres, centimetres
>> or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres can also be read as 110
>> centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape King can maybe do the
>> same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me off-list as I’d love to
>> learn more about Tape King.
>> I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial
>> click rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger
>> project I often will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure
>> how far away from the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is
>> especially if I am cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is
>> much better to have a click rule on each end than to run around with a
>> single one.
>> There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any
>> sort of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single
>> professional and sighted woodworker use an app like the Measu

Re: Huge voiceover bug and flaw in IOS 13

[CrazyEyez]

Lol!
With respect, he could easily fix his problem.
Simply download the 12.4.1 IPSW file and downgrade.
I told you so.

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> On Sep 20, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> with respect, you should have waited.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ketan Kothari
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Huge voiceover bug and flaw in IOS 13
> 
> Dear Friends,
> 
> I at the outset apologize for a slightly long post.  I have an Iphone
> XR.   Despite knowing that there are some bugs in IOS 13 I installed
> it and guess what! What I got was beyond my wildest imagination.
> 
> I am in India.  So when the phone restarted the default language was
> English India but voiceover voice was Hindi.  I tried all that I could
> to change the voice but nothing worked except that I could only change
> the voice from Hindi female to Hindi male.   After a lot of attempts I
> reset the phone to factory settings without deleting any contents.
> 
> And after that when I go into accessibility voiceover speech and voice
> I get "empty list".
> 
> So not only could I not change my voice but none is detected except
> the male voice.
> 
> I checked the Iphone storage but nothing seems to have been deleted.
> THen the question is:  where are the voices and why can't I change
> them?  How do I contact APppple?  THe Indian helpline is not to write
> much about.
> 
> In Apple support earlier there used to be chat but I could not find
> that today.  Any clue please?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Ketan
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Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis

[CrazyEyez]

Man apple people who write code for this software need to lose their jobs.
Each and every one of them.
There's no excuse for all these bugs.
Lay off the drugs.I don't understand how they can release this garbage.
Get rid of the useless dead weight, and find people who actually know what they 
are doing.


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> On Sep 15, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> As I read through them again, was there mention of third party keyboards 
> being silent?
> So if you use Flicktype or MBraille as a third party keyboard, you may want 
> to wait.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for 
> Blind and Low Vision Users | AppleVis
>  
> Yes I read through the bugs, and they don’t seem, for my use at least, too 
> bad a game-changer. Thanks though for sharing. Good thing we’ll only have to 
> wait 10 days for the iOS13.1 to come out, in which I’m sure most of these 
> bugs will be resolved.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 9:42 a. m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> This is a must read before deciding to upgrade to iOS 13.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> https://www.applevis.com/blog/accessibility-bugs-introduced-and-resolved-ios-13-blind-and-low-vision-users
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
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Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

[CrazyEyez]

I'm not sure either, but I'd like to believe that a better camera equals better 
text recognition also.
I prefer the bigger phone for braille screen input.
Besides, i'm used to having the bigger size now, since i've had the bigger 
screen from 7 plus.

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> On Sep 14, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I am not certain of this, but I do not think higher resolution cameras are 
> going to help with text recognition.
>  
> It might make a tiny difference with Facetime, but I find it hard to believe 
> it makes several hundred dollars worth of difference.
>  
> It would take consulting with a professional photographer to be certain 
> either way.
>  
> Just my 2¢ worth.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 8:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?
>  
> I look at it this way .. I want the best camera available .. the better the 
> camera, the better job scanning apps and such will do.  Plus things like 
> FaceTime and such if you are needing someone to help.
>  
> Having said that maybe that is just my way of justification .. LOL …
>  
> The other thing is size .. and that is totally subjective.  I prefer the 
> smaller Pro, as I can still put it on my belt .. I don’t like a phone in my 
> hand or pocket .. again personal preference ..
>  
> No matter which you get .. I think you will be happy ..
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?
>  
> Hi, list.
> I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
> If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be missing anything 
> from 11-Pro or ProMax?
> My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and video in 
> 11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I pay for something 
> that I don’t use?
> Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?
> Thanks!
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Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

[CrazyEyez]

Hi,
According to apple, the iPhone 11 pro max will have 5 hours more battery life 
than the XS Max.
Also, supposedly the pro models can stay submerged in deeper water.
The glass is supposed to be better,
and as you mentioned the pro model has a third camera lens.
It all depends what you want out of it.


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> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:36 AM, William Green  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> The devices both use the same processor so the speeds of everything you do 
> will be the same. The battery life will be better on the iPhone 11 rather 
> than the 11 Pro. 
> 
> From a blindness perspective for the money you will be getting a great sized 
> screen and still almost all the new features for quite a saving. Like you 
> said the biggest difference is the camera which if you’re not a keen 
> photographer you won’t miss to much.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Will
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Sep 2019, at 13:13, Fazil  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, list.
>> I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
>> If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be missing anything 
>> from 11-Pro or ProMax?
>> My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and video in 
>> 11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I pay for something 
>> that I don’t use?
>> Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?
>> Thanks!
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Re: How can I get messages not to be muted?

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Open the messages app, and go to the main screen where your conversations are.
Find the person in question, and swipe up.
There is a choice.
Either hide alerts, or show alerts.
This is the only thing I can think of off the top of my head.
Hope it helps.
.

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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:25 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> There is a friend, and we text at least weekly. It says
> muted, and I have to watch for hers, because I don't get the
> sound of it. I have checked our messages in Messages and
> also in her contact fields. What must I do to get that back
> to normal?  
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Re: Reparing a Screen

[CrazyEyez]

If you paid for the extra apple care, it shouldn't cost you more than $100.
I remember a few years back, we had a phone that had a cracked screen, and they 
replaced the whole phone for a price.

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> On Jul 13, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Holly Jensen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m sad to say that I had a bit of an accident the other day, and my screen 
> was cracked. i have Apple Care, but the fellow i spoke with said it doesn’t 
> cover a cracked screen due to accidental damage. I have to take it in to see 
> if it can be repaired, and how much it would cost. I wondered if any of you 
> could tell me whether you have had a similar experience, and how much it cost 
> to get it repaired? It’s the corner of the screen, so I rather wonder if it 
> is even worth doing. Thanks so much.
> 
> Holly
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Re: Please consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver

[CrazyEyez]

I've tried double tapping, double tapping and holding, and nothing happens.

Some have said that they have a work around, but never told what they did 
different.


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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Yes, the collapse video button is there but double tapping on it does
> nothing. Additionally, I am not able to find the close button to exit
> out of the recommended videos screen. Have you tried double tapping on
> the collapse video button? If so, does it work?
> 
> 
>> On 3/9/18, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> I just checked, and the collapse video button is still there on my IPhone 6,
>> running 11.2.6. It still is at the top left corner of my screen. I do not
>> know the number of my You Tube version, but there is no update for it in my
>> app store, so I guess it is the latest one. I do not know the reason for the
>> discrepancy in our experiences.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Shai  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I and some others who I know have been experiencing issues with the
>> latest version of the YouTube app with VoiceOver for iOS. We have
>> noticed that while playing a video the collapse video button does not
>> work when double tapping on it and we also are unable to find a close
>> button to exit out of the recommended videos. I would like to suggest
>> that if others are experiencing the same issue that they consider
>> contacting YouTube. Feedback can be reported through the app by double
>> tapping on the send feedback button or probably reported in a feedback
>> form found online. I have already contacted YouTube about this issue
>> and I am hoping that it will be resolved soon.
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Re: Please don't consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver

[CrazyEyez]

Good idea.
I have IOS 11.2.6 on an iPhone 8 plus.


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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering if for those who are having trouble with the YouTube app if you 
> have IOS 11.x & those not having problems are still running IOS 10.x? I'm 
> still running IOS 10.x & I'm not having any problems with the YouTube app. 
> There has to be a commonground being some has problems & others don't. 
> 
> Donna  
>> 
>> Lelia
>> 
>> The issues you all have you name them as issues but simply they are not. It 
>> is just another way the app works and that's youtube's policy whether you 
>> like it or not.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Lelia Struve
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 4:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Please don't consider contacting Youtube to report the issues 
>> with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver
>> 
>> Well, I also am having issues and I have the latest update with an iPhone 7. 
>> To say there are no issues is not right, to say there are no issues with 
>> your phone is fine. But you can’t just tell others not to complain or give 
>> feedback if they’re having issues.
>> 
>> Lelia
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 7:25 AM, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well...I suggest that you delete YouTube & reinstall the app. Maybe 
>>> something went wrong with the latest update on March 6th. You have nothing 
>>> to loose.  The majority of people seem not to be having problems with the 
>>> app.
>>> 
>>> Donna
 
 Good for you.
 I'm glad you have no issues.
 However, I do have the issue of the collapse video button not working on 
 my 8 plus.
 Since you know for a fact that there isn't an issue with youtube, then 
 tell us what's wrong with our phones.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 10, 2018, at 5:18 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> There are no issues so don't contact youtube
> Because elsewhere when there would be issues in the future our community 
> will nolonger be credible.
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Donna
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Please consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with 
> the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am using the latest update to the YouTube app. I am not having any 
> problems with accessibility or closing videos. I am using an iPhone 7.
> 
> Dona
>> 
>> I just checked, and the collapse video button is still there on my 
>> IPhone 6, running 11.2.6. It still is at the top left corner of my 
>> screen. I do not know the number of my You Tube version, but there is no 
>> update for it in my app store, so I guess it is the latest one. I do not 
>> know the reason for the discrepancy in our experiences.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Shai  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I and some others who I know have been experiencing issues with the
>> latest version of the YouTube app with VoiceOver for iOS. We have
>> noticed that while playing a video the collapse video button does not
>> work when double tapping on it and we also are unable to find a close
>> button to exit out of the recommended videos. I would like to suggest
>> that if others are experiencing the same issue that they consider
>> contacting YouTube. Feedback can be reported through the app by double
>> tapping on the send feedback button or probably reported in a feedback
>> form found online. I have already contacted YouTube about this issue
>> and I am hoping that it will be resolved soon.
>> 
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Re: Please don't consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver

[CrazyEyez]

Okay.
Since you all are in so tight with the folks at google, and you've figured out 
the app, please enlighten the rest of us as to the work around you use.
Just because things work a bit different does not mean it is policy, or not 
worth noting.


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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> Lelia
> 
> The issues you all have you name them as issues but simply they are not. It 
> is just another way the app works and that's youtube's policy whether you 
> like it or not.
> 
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Lelia Struve
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 4:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Please don't consider contacting Youtube to report the issues 
> with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver
> 
> Well, I also am having issues and I have the latest update with an iPhone 7. 
> To say there are no issues is not right, to say there are no issues with your 
> phone is fine. But you can’t just tell others not to complain or give 
> feedback if they’re having issues.
> 
> Lelia
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 7:25 AM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> Well...I suggest that you delete YouTube & reinstall the app. Maybe 
>> something went wrong with the latest update on March 6th. You have nothing 
>> to loose.  The majority of people seem not to be having problems with the 
>> app.
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Good for you.
>>> I'm glad you have no issues.
>>> However, I do have the issue of the collapse video button not working on my 
>>> 8 plus.
>>> Since you know for a fact that there isn't an issue with youtube, then tell 
>>> us what's wrong with our phones.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2018, at 5:18 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
 
 There are no issues so don't contact youtube
 Because elsewhere when there would be issues in the future our community 
 will nolonger be credible.
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Donna
 Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 9:19 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Please consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with 
 the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver
 
 Hi
 
 I am using the latest update to the YouTube app. I am not having any 
 problems with accessibility or closing videos. I am using an iPhone 7.
 
 Dona
> 
> I just checked, and the collapse video button is still there on my IPhone 
> 6, running 11.2.6. It still is at the top left corner of my screen. I do 
> not know the number of my You Tube version, but there is no update for it 
> in my app store, so I guess it is the latest one. I do not know the 
> reason for the discrepancy in our experiences.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
> 
> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I and some others who I know have been experiencing issues with the
> latest version of the YouTube app with VoiceOver for iOS. We have
> noticed that while playing a video the collapse video button does not
> work when double tapping on it and we also are unable to find a close
> button to exit out of the recommended videos. I would like to suggest
> that if others are experiencing the same issue that they consider
> contacting YouTube. Feedback can be reported through the app by double
> tapping on the send feedback button or probably reported in a feedback
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Re: Please don't consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver

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What is the new policy?
Don't contact google to resolve issues, or take away the collapse button?
I'm lost.


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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> That is just the new policy of youtube it has nothing to do with voiceover so 
> I would suggest no moaning and complaining towards youtube.
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Shai
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Please consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the 
> lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver
> 
> Hello,
> I and some others who I know have been experiencing issues with the
> latest version of the YouTube app with VoiceOver for iOS. We have
> noticed that while playing a video the collapse video button does not
> work when double tapping on it and we also are unable to find a close
> button to exit out of the recommended videos. I would like to suggest
> that if others are experiencing the same issue that they consider
> contacting YouTube. Feedback can be reported through the app by double
> tapping on the send feedback button or probably reported in a feedback
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> and I am hoping that it will be resolved soon.
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Re: Please don't consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver

[CrazyEyez]

Good for you.
I'm glad you have no issues.
However, I do have the issue of the collapse video button not working on my 8 
plus.
Since you know for a fact that there isn't an issue with youtube, then tell us 
what's wrong with our phones.


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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 5:18 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> There are no issues so don't contact youtube
> Because elsewhere when there would be issues in the future our community will 
> nolonger be credible.
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Donna
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Please consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the 
> lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am using the latest update to the YouTube app. I am not having any problems 
> with accessibility or closing videos. I am using an iPhone 7.
> 
> Dona
>> 
>> I just checked, and the collapse video button is still there on my IPhone 6, 
>> running 11.2.6. It still is at the top left corner of my screen. I do not 
>> know the number of my You Tube version, but there is no update for it in my 
>> app store, so I guess it is the latest one. I do not know the reason for the 
>> discrepancy in our experiences.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Shai  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I and some others who I know have been experiencing issues with the
>> latest version of the YouTube app with VoiceOver for iOS. We have
>> noticed that while playing a video the collapse video button does not
>> work when double tapping on it and we also are unable to find a close
>> button to exit out of the recommended videos. I would like to suggest
>> that if others are experiencing the same issue that they consider
>> contacting YouTube. Feedback can be reported through the app by double
>> tapping on the send feedback button or probably reported in a feedback
>> form found online. I have already contacted YouTube about this issue
>> and I am hoping that it will be resolved soon.
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Re: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group)

[CrazyEyez]

Actually firearms are legal in the UK, if you're into those things.
It wasn't difficult to join the group.
If you don't want to join, don't. Nobody cares.

Tha

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> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:00 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
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> As I said,  that's 3 of us  that needn't get involved.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Evan Reese" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 1:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group)
> 
> 
> Yes, , I was going to ask the same thing. There's absolutely no
> info about what kind of shooting that list is about.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:48 PM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries ; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group)
> 
> Shooting what?
> 
> Videos?
> 
> Pictures?
> 
> Firearms?
> 
> Tazors?
> 
> What are you shooting?
> 
> Victor
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Cara Quinn
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:06 PM
> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries ; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group)
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> My apologies for the cross-post - I’ll make this quick.
> 
> Considering that my recent iOS app posting for Where to Shoot prompted some
> good discussion and ideas and also private notes to me with questions about
> shooting, I have started the Blind Shooters Google Group.
> 
> This is an unmoderated email list and is meant for all topics around
> shooting as a visually impaired / blind person.
> 
> Here is the link for those interested in joining.
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/blindshooters  clickable
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> 
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Re: RSS Games on the Apple devices, was RE: pretty exciting

[CrazyEyez]

This isn't worth it.
Its terrible that they charge an unreasonable price.
Don't buy into this scam, just play for free on your computer..
.

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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This is mentioned in the article. It also mentions that for a one-time price 
> of $37 you have unlimited access to all games. We all have to make a living 
> and while I am not much into playing games, for somebody who is I understand 
> this is not a bad deal.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jen .
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RSS Games on the Apple devices, was RE: pretty exciting
> 
> hi Yolie thing is it says after seven days you have to pay for the games 
> where is on the computer they are free unless I am missing something but when 
> I went into each game last night it told me I only had seven days left for 
> free to try them out
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry I wasn't more specific on the original description. It was a long hot 
>> day here in Dallas TX and I was ready to crash for the evening.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/26/2016 9:15 AM, christopher huby wrote:
>>> I must say this is fantastic news and I have just downloaded the app and 
>>> think It is wonderful as it allows you to play against other people online 
>>> and to see who is available to play against.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for letting us all know about this and thank you and well done to 
>>> the developers.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Christopher huby
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: 26 July 2016 14:32
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RSS Games on the Apple devices, was RE: pretty exciting
>>> 
>>> I almost didn't read this because the subject was very vague.  I took a 
>>> chance and when I saw that the link was to Blind Bargains, I checked it out.
>>> I've not been an RSS games player, but this might be worth checking out.
>>> Here is the full text of the article:
>>> 
>>> RS Games shuts the box on only computer playing, goes Apples to 
>>> Apples with iOS Scott Davert yesterday 11:54 PM ET  Earlier today, RS Games 
>>> announced on Twitter that there is now an iOS version of its service 
>>> available. The app, was developed with Kid Friendly Software features many 
>>> of the gestures and voice settings found in the conventional Blindfold 
>>> series of games.
>>> While the app is free, not all games are free to play. The games that are 
>>> free include Slots, Blackjack, Pig, and Driedel. All other games come with 
>>> a free 7 day trial which starts the first time you launch them, whether you 
>>> play them right away or not. Once your trial expires on a specific game, 
>>> you can then continue to use it via an in-app purchase. All other games 
>>> that are currently on the RS Games Server are available for purchase. The 
>>> prices on games ranged from $2.99 for a few of the games, up to $5.99 for 
>>> monopoly. There are also bundles available which allows you to save a few 
>>> dollars. You can pay for unlimited access to all games for $37.99. After 
>>> downloading the app, you will find more details under the upgrades button.
>>> 
>>> This news will have players excitedly downloading the games, the developers 
>>> encourage players to check out the User Guide under the help button before 
>>> trying to play. From the limited testing I've done before writing this 
>>> article, the gestures appear to work well, and so do the keyboard commands 
>>> if quicknav is disabled. Unfortunately, even though there is a setting that 
>>> is designed for braille display users, none of the spoken feedback comes up 
>>> on the braille display during game play. This was tested under 2 different 
>>> iDevices with 2 different braille displays. However, for a 1.0 release, it 
>>> seems quite solid based on initial testing.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Gordon
>>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:12 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: pretty exciting
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen this out here yet, so I figured I'd post it. If 
>>> someone already did, I apologize. 
>>> http://blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=15622
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Re: iPhone SE

[CrazyEyez]

yes, there is a headphone jack.
I looked at the phone's specs on the apple store.
It says nothing about making changes to the headphone jack, and when you look 
at what comes in the box, it says earpods.
I'm excited for this phone, and plan to get it as soon as I can.


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> Yes, according to a tweet I saw from a sighted person, the headphone jack is 
> definitely there.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
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>> hI,
>> 
>> Is there an 3.5mm headphone jack on iPhone SE ? Did a google search, but 
>> could not find any clarification.
>> 
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Re: hhas any one tried the app called boss jock journiour

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What is it?


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> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:04 PM, wui chin Leong  wrote:
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> Has any one tried the recently realeased boss jock journiour. it is a great 
> app
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> ```Sent from my iPad
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Re: Had a long talk with Apple and think I might have the battery draining issue resolved.

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Apples answer to everything is restore, or do a hard reset.
They need to fix the issues that they broke in this latest version.

Stop giving us workarounds, and give us a fix for  the damn problem!

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> On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> Hello Jim, and Alex and all. Basically she said for me to do the following 
> things which would've been restore and do a hard reset. She also ran a 
> diagnostic on my phone to make sure that it was running normally and it was 
> so that was one of the things that I recommend all of us doing is calling and 
> making sure that our phones are running normally. I will post the phone 
> number here for AppleCare in the US. 1-800-275-2273 and I'm sorry, that my 
> message did not get posted properly.
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>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 7:10 PM, "Jim Ruby"  wrote:
>> 
>> Please repost interested in hearing what apple had to say and hopefully a
>> solution.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 4:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Had a long talk with Apple and think I might have the battery
>> draining issue resolved.
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Re: Safari in 7.1

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I noticed it as well, I was tripping out first, like where the hell did my 
address bar go?
But I do like this new feature.

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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
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> I have noticed this change. I like it as well. It makes sense, but it
> was a bit startling at first *smile*.
> 
> Sharonda
> 
>> On 3/12/14, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Has anyone noticed in safari that the address button now says the name of
>> the web site you are on instead of just saying address button?
>> I think this is a good change.
>> Richard
>> 
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Re: after IOS update lost partial keyboard function

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Hello,
Has anyone had these issues with the actual keyboard that is on the phone?
My girlfriend can't type on her keyboard, because it keeps switching between 
letters and numbers and slides through a bunch of symbols.
The only workaround that we have, is using Siri every time that she wants to 
input text.
If anyone has had this problem, or knows how to work around it, I would greatly 
appreciate it.
Thanks.

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> It's happening to me too. I thought the batteries had gone on my Apple
> Bluetooth keyboard until I read my emails.
> 
> Best wishes
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