Re: Address to Subscribe to the Victor Reader Stream List

[Kait Forbes]

Yes, Thank you as well
Kait

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Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers

[Kait Forbes]

M,K.Taylor,
Hell of a lot of work you did here and I thank you so very much for
replying to me as fast as you have done. Impressive! Reading now  and I
will save this.
Again it is so nice when someone actually answers you!  Thanks
K

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 4:59 PM M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Kait,
>
> Okay, I am going to paste in a small article that describes what
> Whispersync for Voice is and does but I don't think the article reads well
> for a VoiceOver user so let me thumbnail it for you:
>
> 1.
> When you purchase a Whispersync for Voice kindle title, this is to say
> that it is a title that has an audible companion, not only can you listen
> to the professional audio narration, as you would do from within the
> Audible app, but you can see the text of the book scrolling on the display
> in synchronization with the audio playback.  This is a very nice feature
> for a sighted or low vision person.
>
> 2.
> One way to take advantage of this feature is to search for a word or
> phrase from within the kindle app, then, once founds, select the play
> button and the professional audio version will begin to play from that
> specific location.
>
> 3.
> The Whispersync for Voice feature it what allows Alexa to either read the
> Kindle title, directly, or playback the Audible version from the title's
> last known reading position.
>
> Now, I'm not certain how useful with feature would be to someone who does
> not use Alexa very much or to someone who does not have a need to search a
> book or who does not particularly enjoy the Kindle app.
>
> As for pricing, one does not need to be an Audible subscriber to enjoy any
> of the features described, above.
>
> For example, I recently purchased a Kindle title for $5.  Now the Audible
> version of that same title, without an Audible subscription was $26.
>
> However, after merging my accounts, yesterday, I was able to purchase the
> Audible version for $1.99 as I already owned the Kindle title.
>
> Okay, the following is a little article from Audible.com.
>
> Mark
>
> Whispersync for Voice | Audible.com
>
> Keep the Story Going
> Switch between listening to an audiobook and reading on your Kindle with
> Whispersync for Voice.
>
> When you can't read, listen.
>
> Now you can switch between reading and listening to your Kindle books with
> the simple tap of a button.
>
> Just pop in your headphones, tap the button, and keep the story going...in
> the car, in the gym, in the kitchen, wherever your day takes you. Whenever
> your eyes are occupied but your mind is free, your story is ready for
> listening.
>
> How it Works
>
> Buy the Kindle book
>
> Add audio companion
>
> Switch between reading and listening on the Kindle App or tablet
>
> Experience Immersion Reading
>
> Read and listen simultaneously with real-time highlighting. It's called
> Immersion Reading and that's what it does: immerse you in a story by
> narrating and highlighting the text as you read. It sparks an extra
> connection that boosts engagement, comprehension, and retention, taking you
> deeper into the book.
>
> Available on Kindle App for Android and iOS, Fire HD 6 Tablet, Fire HD 7
> Tablet, Kindle Fire HDX Tablet, and Fire HDX 8.9
>
> Read. Listen. Repeat.
>
> You can switch from reading to listening within the Kindle Fire Tablet or
> Kindle app. Or, you can switch between reading on one device and listening
> on another. For example, you can read on your tablet and then listen on
> your smartphone, and, thanks to Whispersync for Voice, you'll never lose
> your place.
>
> Read with: Kindle Apps, Kindle, Kindle Paperwhite, Kindle Oasis, and Fire
> Tablets
>
> Listen with: Kindle Apps, Alexa Devices, Fire Tablets, Kindle, Kindle
> Paperwhite, Kindle Oasis, and Audible Apps for iPhone, Android, and Windows
>
> Article at:
> https://www.audible.com/ep/wfs
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kait Forbes
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers
>
> Hello,
> Sorry. should have more clear.  What I meant in merging was how if audio
> is purchased is it merged with my amazon account and this whisper voice
> feature.
> thank you,
> Kait
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 12:25 PM Kait Forbes  miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am new to Amazon books and kindle. Could someone explain what is meant
> by  Whispers Voice feature  in kindle, and how it works and how it is
> merged with my amazon account?  I naturally assumed that it went with
> kindle books and now that I have purchased a few books, I am left with wha

Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers

[Kait Forbes]

Hello,
Sorry. should have more clear.  What I meant in merging was how if audio is
purchased is it merged with my amazon account and this whisper voice
feature.
thank you,
Kait

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 12:25 PM Kait Forbes 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I am new to Amazon books and kindle. Could someone explain what is meant
> by  Whispers Voice feature  in kindle, and how it works and how it is
> merged with my amazon account?  I naturally assumed that it went with
> kindle books and now that I have purchased a few books, I am left with what
> to do with them ?  They can't be used by my family member as it stands at
> the moment and are totally useless to her.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 2:56 AM CJ & AA MAY 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm relatively new to Audible but I have often found that it doesn't show
>> all the books in my wish list, even though I have the correct filters
>> ticked.
>> Alison
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Lenron Brown
>> Sent: 19 April 2022 06:03
>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers
>>
>> Yes this has been happening to me for months now! It is quite annoying.
>> It makes scrolling through Books in the Audible app pretty unpleasant
>> actually.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Alan,
>> >
>> > Your experience and my experience are identical.
>> >
>> > The funny thing is that I absolutely did not encounter this until early
>> this morning when I decided to merge my old audible account with my Amazon
>> account in order to take advantage of the Whispers Voice feature.
>> >
>> > I have been contemplating merging my accounts for months but was afraid
>> that doing so would cause some unexpected problem.  I just knew it!!!  I
>> had no idea that the new problem would be so basic and integral to the
>> Audible app, itself.
>> >
>> > I spoke to 3 people at Audible / Amazon, today, and, frankly, they were
>> worse than no help, at all.  Awful, awful experience.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 8:31 PM
>> > To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: RE: A Question for Audible Subscribers
>> >
>> > Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > I really think the solution is for the Audible developers to fix the
>> app so that single finger swipes right places focus on the next book in
>> your library regardless if that next book is on a following screen. I went
>> to the Library tab in the Audible app on my iPhone 13 Mini today after
>> reading your message and noted that about 7 books are listed per screen.
>> When a swipe right is done on the last listing on the screen, focus shifts
>> to the mini player which is at the very bottom instead of advancing to the
>> next book in your library. If you're on the second screen of your library
>> on the book at the top, swiping left takes you to the filtering buttons at
>> the top of the screen instead of advancing the screen to the preceding
>> page. I know others have said you can do a three finger swipe up to move to
>> succeeding pages or a three finger swipe down to move to previous pages but
>> you have to hope that no titles are skipped when doing this because there
>> is absolutely no way when using Voiceover to single finger swipe to every
>> title in your library. I tried setting my rotor to vertical navigation
>> hoping that would let me move through each title individually but it also
>> does not cause the screen to advance or move back when attempting to move
>> past the last book or first book on the screen.
>> >
>> > I don't know which update changed this behavior but I don't believe it
>> has always worked like this. If you have any suggestions on where we can
>> write to request a change, I'd welcome it and will write Audible.
>> >
>> > Alan Lemly
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of M. Taylor
>> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 1:48 PM
>> > To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: A Question for Audible Subscribers
>> >
>> > Hello All,

Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers

[Kait Forbes]

Hello,
I am new to Amazon books and kindle. Could someone explain what is meant
by  Whispers Voice feature  in kindle, and how it works and how it is
merged with my amazon account?  I naturally assumed that it went with
kindle books and now that I have purchased a few books, I am left with what
to do with them ?  They can't be used by my family member as it stands at
the moment and are totally useless to her.


On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 2:56 AM CJ & AA MAY  wrote:

> I'm relatively new to Audible but I have often found that it doesn't show
> all the books in my wish list, even though I have the correct filters
> ticked.
> Alison
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Lenron Brown
> Sent: 19 April 2022 06:03
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question for Audible Subscribers
>
> Yes this has been happening to me for months now! It is quite annoying. It
> makes scrolling through Books in the Audible app pretty unpleasant actually.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Alan,
> >
> > Your experience and my experience are identical.
> >
> > The funny thing is that I absolutely did not encounter this until early
> this morning when I decided to merge my old audible account with my Amazon
> account in order to take advantage of the Whispers Voice feature.
> >
> > I have been contemplating merging my accounts for months but was afraid
> that doing so would cause some unexpected problem.  I just knew it!!!  I
> had no idea that the new problem would be so basic and integral to the
> Audible app, itself.
> >
> > I spoke to 3 people at Audible / Amazon, today, and, frankly, they were
> worse than no help, at all.  Awful, awful experience.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Alan Lemly
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 8:31 PM
> > To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: A Question for Audible Subscribers
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I really think the solution is for the Audible developers to fix the app
> so that single finger swipes right places focus on the next book in your
> library regardless if that next book is on a following screen. I went to
> the Library tab in the Audible app on my iPhone 13 Mini today after reading
> your message and noted that about 7 books are listed per screen. When a
> swipe right is done on the last listing on the screen, focus shifts to the
> mini player which is at the very bottom instead of advancing to the next
> book in your library. If you're on the second screen of your library on the
> book at the top, swiping left takes you to the filtering buttons at the top
> of the screen instead of advancing the screen to the preceding page. I know
> others have said you can do a three finger swipe up to move to succeeding
> pages or a three finger swipe down to move to previous pages but you have
> to hope that no titles are skipped when doing this because there is
> absolutely no way when using Voiceover to single finger swipe to every
> title in your library. I tried setting my rotor to vertical navigation
> hoping that would let me move through each title individually but it also
> does not cause the screen to advance or move back when attempting to move
> past the last book or first book on the screen.
> >
> > I don't know which update changed this behavior but I don't believe it
> has always worked like this. If you have any suggestions on where we can
> write to request a change, I'd welcome it and will write Audible.
> >
> > Alan Lemly
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of M. Taylor
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 1:48 PM
> > To: vipho...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: A Question for Audible Subscribers
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I know I saw a post about this but I cannot locate the solutions, if any
> exists.
> >
> > For some reason, even when in list view, VoiceOver seems to skip titles
> in my Audible Library when I am browsing through them.
> >
> > Is there a solution to this problem?
> >
> > Interestingly, I did not begin experiencing this issue until I merged my
> original Audible account with my Amazon account.
> >
> > All replies greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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Re: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale

[Kait Forbes]

Thanks.   All good.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 11:31 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Adding recipes from inside Paprika is the easiest, there is a built-in
> browser or maybe it uses Safari or the Safari engine, but if you search a
> recipe from within Paprika you just tap the Save button once you find the
> recipe you want.
>
> It would be nice if there was a Windows version or web version which would
> make it easier to copy and paste recipes I already have in Notepad files,
> then again I wonder if I would really do it because I can just as easily
> take my wireless keyboard to the kitchen, use my Logitech H800 wireless
> headset and use the text files when I am cooking.
>
>
>
> *From:* 'A Robledo' via VIPhone 
> *Sent:* November 23, 2021 6:46 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
> So from that iOS Paprika app. These are the instructions.
>
> Open Safari if that is where your recipe is then the bottom tab that says
> share go there.
>
> Find copy double tap on that.
>
> Then proceed to open the Paprika app. When once you open the app you will
> receive a message that says something to the effect of do you wanna copy
> link say yes.
>
> Then on the bottom of the Paprika app it will say create recipe double tap
> on that
>
> At the top right you will see save recipe.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Kait Forbes 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Well I did do the copy and paste and that worked well.  Having issues with
> how to add the darn recipes?  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 3:58 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I tried the Paprika Windows app years ago and found it very inaccessible.
> I contacted Paprika at the time and while they apologized they didn't
> really give me a time line or even much hope that they were interested in
> fixing it.
>
> I'd love to know if that works now because I have a lot of recipes saved
> just as text files and if I wanted to get them into Paprika it would
> certainly be a lot easier if I could do this on the computer with a
> keyboard and using copy and paste.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* November 22, 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks.  I am going to get this one.  I have been hearing a lot  of good
> things from folks on my cooking sites.
>
> Kait
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 2:23 PM Johna Gravitt 
> wrote:
>
> I didn’t find the app for PC accessible with jaws.  I found a lot of
> unlabeled check boxes and buttons.
>
> I am using chrome and jaws latest version.
>
> Johna
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Cristóbal Muñoz
> *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2021 2:22 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* FW: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
> I already have these apps on my iPhone and PC, but thought I’d share in
> case anyone’s interested. Both the iOS and Windows apps are accessible.
> With Jaws on PC anyway.
>
>
>
> Cristóbal
>
>
>
> *From:* Paprika Recipe Manager 
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:23 PM
> *Subject:* 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
>
>
> 2021 Thanksgiving Sale
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. Logo]
> 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
> Hi everyone, our annual Thanksgiving and Black Friday sale has started
> once again. All four versions of Paprika are now on sale until the end of
> November.
>
> Our iOS and Android apps are currently 40% off:
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for iOS*
> <https://news.paprikaapp.com/l/wlereBzVZZu9jQ3aRozURQ/HqxH7qa892W77F8vLzX8ivvA/o2L763Fyx8531JlxporzaVCA>
>
>
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for Android*
> <https://news.paprikaapp.com/l/wlereBzVZZu9jQ3aRozURQ/iOyQf6LqBGQWYNmvAtpw2g/o2L763Fyx8531JlxporzaVCA>
>
> Our macOS and Windows apps are currently 50% off:
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for macOS*
> <https://news.paprikaapp.com/l/wlereBzVZZu9jQ3aRozURQ/0ZIV4txl5bcUyCzLxEdbEQ/o2L763Fyx8531JlxporzaVCA>
>
>
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for Windows*
> <https://news.paprikaapp.com/l/wlereBzVZZu9jQ3aRozURQ/16fD0a9qkXfoiUvf7I892Y763Q/o2L763Fyx8531JlxporzaVCA>
>
> If you haven't upgraded to Paprika 3 yet, this is a great time to do so.
>
> *Please note that the sale prices will vary by country but the currently
> displayed prices on our website, the App Store, and the Play Store are
> indeed the correct prices.*
>
> Regards,
> The Paprika 

Re: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale

[Kait Forbes]

Well I did do the copy and paste and that worked well.  Having issues with
how to add the darn recipes?  Any help would be appreciated.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 3:58 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> I tried the Paprika Windows app years ago and found it very inaccessible.
> I contacted Paprika at the time and while they apologized they didn't
> really give me a time line or even much hope that they were interested in
> fixing it.
>
> I'd love to know if that works now because I have a lot of recipes saved
> just as text files and if I wanted to get them into Paprika it would
> certainly be a lot easier if I could do this on the computer with a
> keyboard and using copy and paste.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* November 22, 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks.  I am going to get this one.  I have been hearing a lot  of good
> things from folks on my cooking sites.
>
> Kait
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 2:23 PM Johna Gravitt 
> wrote:
>
> I didn’t find the app for PC accessible with jaws.  I found a lot of
> unlabeled check boxes and buttons.
>
> I am using chrome and jaws latest version.
>
> Johna
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Cristóbal Muñoz
> *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2021 2:22 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* FW: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
> I already have these apps on my iPhone and PC, but thought I’d share in
> case anyone’s interested. Both the iOS and Windows apps are accessible.
> With Jaws on PC anyway.
>
>
>
> Cristóbal
>
>
>
> *From:* Paprika Recipe Manager 
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:23 PM
> *Subject:* 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
>
>
> 2021 Thanksgiving Sale
>
> [image: Image removed by sender. Logo]
> 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
> Hi everyone, our annual Thanksgiving and Black Friday sale has started
> once again. All four versions of Paprika are now on sale until the end of
> November.
>
> Our iOS and Android apps are currently 40% off:
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for iOS*
> <https://news.paprikaapp.com/l/wlereBzVZZu9jQ3aRozURQ/HqxH7qa892W77F8vLzX8ivvA/o2L763Fyx8531JlxporzaVCA>
>
>
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for Android*
> <https://news.paprikaapp.com/l/wlereBzVZZu9jQ3aRozURQ/iOyQf6LqBGQWYNmvAtpw2g/o2L763Fyx8531JlxporzaVCA>
>
> Our macOS and Windows apps are currently 50% off:
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for macOS*
> <https://news.paprikaapp.com/l/wlereBzVZZu9jQ3aRozURQ/0ZIV4txl5bcUyCzLxEdbEQ/o2L763Fyx8531JlxporzaVCA>
>
>
>
> *Get Paprika 3 for Windows*
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Re: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale

[Kait Forbes]

Thanks.  I am going to get this one.  I have been hearing a lot  of good
things from folks on my cooking sites.
Kait
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 2:23 PM Johna Gravitt 
wrote:

> I didn’t find the app for PC accessible with jaws.  I found a lot of
> unlabeled check boxes and buttons.
>
> I am using chrome and jaws latest version.
>
> Johna
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Cristóbal Muñoz
> *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2021 2:22 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* FW: 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
> I already have these apps on my iPhone and PC, but thought I’d share in
> case anyone’s interested. Both the iOS and Windows apps are accessible.
> With Jaws on PC anyway.
>
>
>
> Cristóbal
>
>
>
> *From:* Paprika Recipe Manager 
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 21, 2021 8:23 PM
> *Subject:* 2021 Thanksgiving and Black Friday Sale
>
>
>
>
>
> 2021 Thanksgiving Sale
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Re: Selecting to delete

[Kait Forbes]

Stacy,
 Thanks very much.  Will give it a try.
Kait

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 6:00 PM Stacy Fuehrer  wrote:

> Hello kate.
> If you’re using the native mail app, from the top left corner of the
> screen if you swipe right ones, there’s an option that says edit if you
> double tap that, there’s an option that says select all, double tap on that
> go to the bottom of the screen, and there’s an option that says delete all.
> Hope this helps, let me know if you have questions
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 8, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Kait Forbes  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> On iPhone 2020.  After going through all emails, Is there a way to delete
> all of them at once?   I have been unable to find if and how to do this?
> Help! P.S. Sorry. In gmail .
> Thank you,
> Kait
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Selecting to delete

[Kait Forbes]

Hi All,
On iPhone 2020.  After going through all emails, Is there a way to delete
all of them at once?   I have been unable to find if and how to do this?
Help! P.S. Sorry. In gmail .
Thank you,
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Re: The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

[Kait Forbes]

To all with input,  thanks for this.
Kait

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> And once you practice it you really don't have to start near the top left
> or even go left to right and down.
>
> As long as you do 3 distinct movements with 2 fingers it will be
> recognized as a scrub, this can be left to right, right to left and down
> and back to the right or it can be straight across left to right and back
> to the left, right to left and back to the right or even start near the top
> or in the middle and go straight down, then back up and down again or start
> a bit lower and go up, then down and back  up again.
>
> I would recommend to go to Voiceover Settings > Voiceover Practice and try
> it there because Voiceover will then tell you if you are doing it right.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Christopher Chaltain
> *Sent:* Monday, August 2, 2021 6:02 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]
>
>
>
> To perform the scrub gesture, pretend like you’re wiping off a smudge on
> your iPhone screen. Place two fingers in the upper left hand corner of the
> screen, swipe them to the right, then the left and down and finally back to
> the right.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Star Gazer
> *Sent:* Monday, August 2, 2021 7:41 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Editing Home Screen
>
>
>
>To piggy back off
> of this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can
> find is to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail
> 
> for Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Dan Yates 
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: Editing Home Screen
>
>
>
> Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to
> figure it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they
> needed to be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick
> down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
>
> Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and
> flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
>
> You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to
> put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want
> to put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub
> gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
>
> Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
>
> App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
>
> Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where
> Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and
> the Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as
> well which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
>
> So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera
> before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before
> Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
>
> If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to
> the right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings
> would stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on
> the very right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on
> the very left.
>
> Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on
> which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right
> of the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
>
> There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on,
> for example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos
> app you could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a
> default name, this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app
> and put focus on an existing folder then in addition to drop before and
> drop after you will have an option to drop the app into the folder.
>
> Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can
> go to a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can 

Re: Flac to MP3, was RE: Transfer Question

[Kait Forbes]

Kelly ,

Will do. Thanks
Kait

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:05 PM Kelly Pierce  wrote:

> Please post any questions. After you place the lame.dll file into the
> FLAC ?Squisher directory, the next tricky part is entering a command
> for lame to execute. I use –b 320 for the best quality. Be sure to
> place a hyphen in front of the letter b followed by a space for the
> command line to be operative.  Flac Squisher will allow you to have
> hundreds of albums on your iPhone. If you are on a bus, train, or
> airplane and listening through ear pods, the difference in sound
> quality will not be significant.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 5/8/21, Kait Forbes  wrote:
> > KELLY,
> > Thanks for the input.  I will check it out.
> > Kait
> >
> > <
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> >
> > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 8:11 PM Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> >
> >> My favorite program is FLAC Squisher. It is open source and it
> >> requires end users to download the LAME MP3 encoder separately. It
> >> will convert all sub-folders in a folder, such as all the albums of an
> >> artist that are in their own folders under the artist’s name.  Also,
> >> it transfers the album cover and related image files to the folder
> >> with the MP3 files.
> >>
> >> BTW: iOS supports FLAC files and Apple is rumored to be increasing the
> >> storage of the 2021 iPhones.
> >>
> >> Kelly
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/8/21, Kait Forbes  wrote:
> >> > thanks
> >> > Kait
> >> >
> >> > <
> >>
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> >> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 2:44 PM Malcolm Parfitt
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> By the way Waltr2 and Waltr Pro will convert flac To MP3 for
> >> transferring
> >> >> to your Apple device.
> >> >>
> >> >> Malcolm Parfitt
> >> >>
> >> >> > On 8 May 2021, at 15:57, Richard Turner
> >> >> > 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There are a bunch of online converter options, but if you have a
> >> bunch
> >> >> of files on your drive you want to convert, I use GoldWave.
> >> >> > It is free to use for a certain number of times, which I do not
> >> >> > know,
> >> >> but is around $50 to purchase.
> >> >> > You can do batch conversions.
> >> >> > I don't have any flac files to double check with but it saves to
> and
> >> >> opens from Flac so I will be extremely surprised if it doesn't do a
> >> great
> >> >> job.
> >> >> > www.goldwave.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Richard
> >> >> > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for
> it,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> what they become by it."
> >> >> > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Web site: www.turner42.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Original Message-
> >> >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of
> >> >> goshawk on horseback
> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 4:24 AM
> >> >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Transfer Question
> >> >> > Importance: High
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mainly because I very often can't get it to cooperate with me and
> do
> >> >> it's job.
> >>

Re: Flac to MP3, was RE: Transfer Question

[Kait Forbes]

KELLY,
Thanks for the input.  I will check it out.
Kait

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On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 8:11 PM Kelly Pierce  wrote:

> My favorite program is FLAC Squisher. It is open source and it
> requires end users to download the LAME MP3 encoder separately. It
> will convert all sub-folders in a folder, such as all the albums of an
> artist that are in their own folders under the artist’s name.  Also,
> it transfers the album cover and related image files to the folder
> with the MP3 files.
>
> BTW: iOS supports FLAC files and Apple is rumored to be increasing the
> storage of the 2021 iPhones.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> On 5/8/21, Kait Forbes  wrote:
> > thanks
> > Kait
> >
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> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
> > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 2:44 PM Malcolm Parfitt 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> By the way Waltr2 and Waltr Pro will convert flac To MP3 for
> transferring
> >> to your Apple device.
> >>
> >> Malcolm Parfitt
> >>
> >> > On 8 May 2021, at 15:57, Richard Turner 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > There are a bunch of online converter options, but if you have a
> bunch
> >> of files on your drive you want to convert, I use GoldWave.
> >> > It is free to use for a certain number of times, which I do not know,
> >> but is around $50 to purchase.
> >> > You can do batch conversions.
> >> > I don't have any flac files to double check with but it saves to and
> >> opens from Flac so I will be extremely surprised if it doesn't do a
> great
> >> job.
> >> > www.goldwave.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >> > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
> >> > but
> >> what they become by it."
> >> > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> >> >
> >> > Web site: www.turner42.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of
> >> goshawk on horseback
> >> > Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 4:24 AM
> >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> > Subject: Re: Transfer Question
> >> > Importance: High
> >> >
> >> > mainly because I very often can't get it to cooperate with me and do
> >> it's job.
> >> >
> >> > Simon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 8:47 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Transfer Question
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> For flac to mp3, just grab the switch program.  That program is great
> >> >> and works very well.  I can't remember if flac to mp3 is part of the
> >> >> paid or free version.  I've always used the free version of the
> >> >> program and that has always worked just fine for me.  I really don't
> >> >> mind iTunes when it comes to either putting ring tones on my iPhone
> 8,
> >> >> or if I do want to put some audio books or dramas into voice dream
> >> >> reader.  ITunes isn't the easiest program I've ever worked with, but
> >> >> once you use it a few times, you'll get the hang of it.  I don't know
> >> >> why so many blind people are so opposed to it.
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 5/7/21, Kait Forbes  wrote:
> >> >>> Just out of curiosity,  Using the iPhone SE, does everyone use only
> >> >>> ITunes
> >> >>> to transfer music and books to or is there another , better, more
> >> >>> accessible app. that you all prefer using?  The other question.  How
> >> in
> >> >>> the

Re: Flac to MP3, was RE: Transfer Question

[Kait Forbes]

thanks
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On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 2:44 PM Malcolm Parfitt 
wrote:

> By the way Waltr2 and Waltr Pro will convert flac To MP3 for transferring
> to your Apple device.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
> > On 8 May 2021, at 15:57, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
> >
> > There are a bunch of online converter options, but if you have a bunch
> of files on your drive you want to convert, I use GoldWave.
> > It is free to use for a certain number of times, which I do not know,
> but is around $50 to purchase.
> > You can do batch conversions.
> > I don't have any flac files to double check with but it saves to and
> opens from Flac so I will be extremely surprised if it doesn't do a great
> job.
> > www.goldwave.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
> > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> >
> > Web site: www.turner42.com
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> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> goshawk on horseback
> > Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 4:24 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Transfer Question
> > Importance: High
> >
> > mainly because I very often can't get it to cooperate with me and do
> it's job.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021 8:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: Transfer Question
> >
> >
> >> For flac to mp3, just grab the switch program.  That program is great
> >> and works very well.  I can't remember if flac to mp3 is part of the
> >> paid or free version.  I've always used the free version of the
> >> program and that has always worked just fine for me.  I really don't
> >> mind iTunes when it comes to either putting ring tones on my iPhone 8,
> >> or if I do want to put some audio books or dramas into voice dream
> >> reader.  ITunes isn't the easiest program I've ever worked with, but
> >> once you use it a few times, you'll get the hang of it.  I don't know
> >> why so many blind people are so opposed to it.
> >>
> >>> On 5/7/21, Kait Forbes  wrote:
> >>> Just out of curiosity,  Using the iPhone SE, does everyone use only
> >>> ITunes
> >>> to transfer music and books to or is there another , better, more
> >>> accessible app. that you all prefer using?  The other question.  How
> in
> >>> the
> >>> world do You all  convert flac to mp3.  I have done some searching.
> >>> There
> >>> are so many companies and programs out there that do this sort of
> thing.
> >>> I
> >>> am very unsure what and where to purchase said program from.  Any input
> >>> would be appreciated.
> >>> Thank you
> >>> Kait
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Re: Transfer Question

[Kait Forbes]

Thanks to all of you that replied to my question.  I will look into these.
So appreciated.
Thank you again,
Kait

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On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:28 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> It does take a lot of fiddling.
>
> You have to connecft your phone via cable at least the first time.
>
> Then, open the WALTR settings, and control+tab until you get to the Wi-Fi
> tab and then tab to your device and there should be a checkbox to allow
> Wireless transfers, check it.
>
> Then, tab to OK and hit enter.
>
> Then, once you get focus on your device, press spacebar, then browse to
> the folder with its not so helpful browse mode which starts at some system
> level so you will have to tediously go back to get to the drive and find
> the folder, then the file, hit enter on the file then you will either get a
> convert and transfer button or you will have to hit an open button, then
> get the convert and transfer.
>
> That will let WALTR decide where to put the file.
>
> Or, if you want to use a different app on your phone, arrow down to your
> choices for other devices….
>
>
>
> It could be a lot better and several of us have been lobbying for improved
> screen reader support.
>
> But, we of course are a tiny part of  their user base, so the more that
> speak up the better.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
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> Web site: www.turner42.com
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>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *goshawk on horseback
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 8, 2021 8:14 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Transfer Question
> *Importance:* High
>
>
>
> tried to use this to get some videos on to my iPhone, and it didn't seem
> to work however. don't know what I did wrong, as this program isn't very
> helpful when using with a screenreader.
>
>
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Richard Turner 
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 08, 2021 3:55 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: Transfer Question
>
>
>
> Hi Kate,
>
> There is a paid program, WALTR 2 (which will be WALTR Pro on May 12th) is
> a very slick program that you can pretty much drag and drop files onto your
> iPhone.
>
> On Windows, iTunes still has to be installed, but you don’t have to deal
> with the iTunes bloat in order to use WALTR.
>
> I purchased the pro version with a 50% off coupon plus there was already a
> 10% off deal, so it only cost me $18.  Normal price is $40.
>
> I couldn’t get the 50% coupon to work, so their lovely tech support gave
> me a new coupon.
>
> I explained trying to use it with a screen reader which is difficult, but
> possible.
>
>
>
> If you are using it to help get things onto your Gram’s phone, you may
> find it much easier to cope with.
>
>
>
> The company is Softorino.  I was a bit skeptical when I noticed they are
> in the Marshall Islands, and they don’t really have any phone support.
> However, the email support is very good.
>
> Here is the link if you want to check it out.
>
> https://softorino.com/waltr/
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> Later,
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
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>
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> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Friday, May 7,

Transfer Question

[Kait Forbes]

Just out of curiosity,  Using the iPhone SE, does everyone use only ITunes
to transfer music and books to or is there another , better, more
accessible app. that you all prefer using?  The other question.  How in the
world do You all  convert flac to mp3.  I have done some searching.  There
are so many companies and programs out there that do this sort of thing.  I
am very unsure what and where to purchase said program from.  Any input
would be appreciated.
Thank you
Kait

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Re: Setting up Hey Siri

[Kait Forbes]

That is funny and You are so right!

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 11:02 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Just like so many things which don't enter your mind any more when you are
> 103 yeas old 😂
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Mr. Ed
> *Sent:* Monday, May 3, 2021 4:21 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Setting up Hey Siri
>
>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> You are right as I forgot about that part when I wrote those instructions.
> I was just trying to write some basic instructions for when she turns on
> VO. It been so long since I have setup the voice for Hey Siri it didn’t
> enter my mind.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Monday, May 03, 2021 1:53 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Setting up Hey Siri
>
>
>
> You cannot setup Hey Siri without going through the steps of training her
> to your voice, or at least a voice.
>
> I just tried it on a phone that had no Siri history.
>
>
>
> You can turn on using Siri with the Home Button, but whether you do that
> or not, if you try to turn on Listen for Hey Siri, and do not go through
> the training steps, it stays turned off.
>
>
>
>
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>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
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>
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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

Donna,
Thanks.  I will keep that in mind.  Good words to follow, In fact that is
what I am going to do. I have received so much information from this site
and I thank my lucky stars it was recommended to me.  I feel fortunate and
I now have a basis to which I can follow.  Lots and Lots of good stuff.
And lots of work.  Thanks to all you good people.
Kait

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 12:56 AM Donna Casteen 
wrote:

> Kait, you are a granddaughter to be admired & treasured. I want to share
> my story with you. I lost my vision at age 45 following surgery. Being
> thrown into blindness was difficult to accept & have to deal with,
> everything was abruptly taken away, my independence, pride, self
> confidence, interests/hobbies, the beauty of nature, the smiles on the
> faces of family & friends…Everything! I spent 3 years cycling through the
> first 4 stages of grief, denial, anger, bargaining & depression, before
> finally reaching the fifth & final stage, acceptance. When “I” felt that
> “I” was close to putting a stage of grief behind me & move on to the next
> stage, someone in my life would say or do something that would set me back.
> Even though their comments or actions were said & done with the best
> intentions & my well being in mind- I saw the actions as them rushing me to
> heal, while showing me that they did not have confidence in my ability to
> find “My” own way to do things that would work for “Me.” Like you, my best
> friend of 30+ years & my parents felt that it was very important for me to
> learn to use a smartphone so that they could keep in contact with me & they
> thought that a smartphone would aid in my independence. Learning to use a
> smartphone was at the bottom of my “New Normal” bucket list, especially
> when my flip phone was still usable & would solve  their problem of them
> needing to be in constant contact with me, because of their worries of me
> being alone. Labeling the microwave, stove, washer, dryer, helping to
> organize the kitchen food pantry, the refrigerator, the cleaning & personal
> care items was what I needed & wanted the most. Things that would give me a
> sense of independence & the feeling of accomplishment when I was able to
> prepare my own food, take care of my personal needs & clean my own house.
> Why not use a dot of puff paint to mark the answer call & some of the
> numbers on the dial pad on her flip phone? get her an AlexaShow  & setup
> contacts & Alexa calling. The AlexaShow is simpler to teach, easier to
> learn to use, being that it works by voice commands & can do almost
> everything that her having a smartphone can do. She can make & accept
> calls, send text messages, listen to music & books, play games & have items
> identified for her. Leave the smartphone with voiceover on with her. Show
> her how to turn the phone on & how to charge the phone. Encourage her to
> explore the phone alone, let her interest & curiosity guide her, not what
> you think that she needs to learn.  Be supportive by letting her try to do
> things on her own before you offer suggestions, advice or guidance, but do
> not step in & complete a task for her, unless she agrees to let you do so.
> I do not accept change well. I am stubborn & my pride & self independence
> sometimes gets in the way of me asking for help. Once my family & friends
> stepped back & let me take the lead in showing what my abilities were, it
> made their wanting to step in & help easier for me to accept. Feeling
> helpless & useless to oneself & to others is a very dark & lonely place to
> be.Don’t forget that your Grandma needs her own sunshine.
>
> Donna
>
> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
> and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
> I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
> need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
> only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
> feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
> pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
> would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
> form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
>
> thank you ,
>
> kait
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
> wrote:
>
> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
> one.
>
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
> players so no need for a phone.
>
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t 

Re: Setting up Hey Siri

[Kait Forbes]

Thank you to everyone that has replied to the email.  I have a lot to read
through here and have a lot of information.  The person that sent me the
disability line number, that was a stroke of business.  The PDF of
information was nice too.  The personal replies.  But most of all, the
amount of replies,  this is a great start and really most appreciated.
Just needed to let you all know that.  You can't know what this means to
me. so.
Thank you
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 7:20 PM Mr. Ed  wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> You are right as I forgot about that part when I wrote those instructions.
> I was just trying to write some basic instructions for when she turns on
> VO. It been so long since I have setup the voice for Hey Siri it didn’t
> enter my mind.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Monday, May 03, 2021 1:53 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Setting up Hey Siri
>
>
>
> You cannot setup Hey Siri without going through the steps of training her
> to your voice, or at least a voice.
>
> I just tried it on a phone that had no Siri history.
>
>
>
> You can turn on using Siri with the Home Button, but whether you do that
> or not, if you try to turn on Listen for Hey Siri, and do not go through
> the training steps, it stays turned off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
>
>
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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

 Stargazer,
Wish i knew how to respond to this email?  I assure you I was not looking
for a magic bullet but instructions on  how to set up my Gran's phone for
her.  Thought a little background would help.  Did not think that would
offend anyone? The reason I chose this particular phone was for the siri.or
anything voice related.  I do not wish to stress her out over anything at
this time.  But a phone in any form is a preference to nothing at all.  If
it doesn't pan out, I intend to keep looking.  Things aren't set in stone.
I really thought and was given to believe that this was the site to come to
for phone support on a personal level .It gives one that comradery
feeling.  I think if you want to know and learn something that is so darn
important, go to the source.   I still believe that sighted or not.
Thank you for your advice and support and I will also try and keep in mind
what I am here for.
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 3:14 PM Star Gazer  wrote:

> There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an
> Iphone.
>
> I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on
> Me Tv.
>
> That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an
> Iphone.
>
> Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is
> designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use,
> sometimes just the opposite can happen.
>
> If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she
> could do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t
> know why this idea is so stuck in your head.
>
> This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it
> can’t make its inherent nature into something you or she will find
> enjoyable.
>
> What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or
> tell you how to download audio books for her.
>
> We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell
> her/you how to save a picture the grandkids sent her.
>
> We can tell her/you how to text.
>
> We can’t make her do any of these things.
>
> Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it
> may come with some other services you guys may find useful.
>
>
>
> Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean this
> list can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone
> user on the planet.  We can’t do this for anybody.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
> and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
> I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
> need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
> only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
> feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
> pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
> would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
> form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
>
> thank you ,
>
> kait
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
> wrote:
>
> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
> one.
>
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
> players so no need for a phone.
>
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
> other means?
>
> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>
>
>
> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
> phone is so important?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains
> to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her
> thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in
> this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to jus

Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

This is a big learning curve!

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:28 PM 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sis, if she's really phone savvy and technology savvy, she will do fine
> with an iPhone. Otherwise, she may need  an easier phone. If that's the
> case, I may be able to search one out for her. Many older people are really
> catching on to iPhones and such,  though. There will be a learning curve.
>
> Love ya,
> Karen
>
>
>
> At 05:44 AM 5/3/2021, you wrote:
>
> Do you mean an Iphone?
>
> Start with voiceover, you may need to find a voice on there that she
> likes, they all sound different and everybody has a preference
>
> What all are you wanting to do with her phone, and what does she want to
> do with her phone?
>
> I’ve seen adds for phones for old people, might one of those work better?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
> phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>
> Kait
>
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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

maria,
Now you have it!  And thank you for understanding.
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 2:14 PM Maria Campbell  wrote:

> Some older people can be quite ornery and set in their ways.  My
> father-in-law was that way at first, but he came around at the end and
> accepted assistance.  Good luck to you in your efforts.
>
>
> Maria campbelllucky1i...@gmail.com
>
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>
> On 5/3/2021 2:07 PM, Kait Forbes wrote:
>
> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
> and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
> I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
> need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
> only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
> feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
> pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
> would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
> form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
> thank you ,
> kait
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
> wrote:
>
>> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
>> one.
>>
>> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
>> players so no need for a phone.
>>
>> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
>> other means?
>>
>> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
>> phone is so important?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Kait Forbes 
>> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
>> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains
>> to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her
>> thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in
>> this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
>> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
>> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
>> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
>> the darn phone it's a start.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
>> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>>
>> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see
>> and has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new
>> to her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help
>> out.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>> Of *Kait Forbes
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* In need of assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother,
>> she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I
>> need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with
>> her phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
>> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
>> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
>> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
>> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>>
>> Kait
>>
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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer  wrote:

> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
> one.
>
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
> players so no need for a phone.
>
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
> other means?
>
> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>
>
>
> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
> phone is so important?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains
> to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her
> thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in
> this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
> the darn phone it's a start.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>
> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and
> has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to
> her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
> phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>
> Kait
>
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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

I really do think I will stay with the SE.  I am going to have to put the
work in but in the end I do believe it will be worth it.  Thank you

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:47 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

> Unless there have been update changes, when I set up Hay Siri, I had to go
> through the prompts saying what I was told to say so that Siri could learn
> to identify my voice.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 12:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Hi Kate,
>
> I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But
> here are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”
>
>
>
> 1.   Click on the settings app.
>
> 2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.
>
> 3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.
>
> 4.   Close settings and you are done.
>
>
>
> Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.
>
> If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If
> you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.
>
> When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to
> make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with
> one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your
> finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So
> say you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to
> open settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after
> you hear settings to open the settings app.
>
>
>
> Let us know any other questions you may have.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Kait Forbes
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
> will be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
> Let's just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow
> but  nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
> this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I
> know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having
> a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do
> not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things
> just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.
>  I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is
> just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone
> up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the
> plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot
> from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me ,
> I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start
> with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to
> know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If
> she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any
> additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this
> sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough
> that that is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she
> calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said
> am I on the right track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show
> her there is more and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten
> stuff I know but I assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you
> all understand?  I thank you very much for your kindness, support and
> consideration.  Kait
>
>
>
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> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net  4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:
>
> Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to
> Siri in Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five
> prompts, so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great th

Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

I have never heard of this phone.  And thank you for the update.  I already
have the  SE and would like to stay with it if possible.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:12 PM Joshua Hendrickson 
wrote:

> I've heard a lot of bad things about the blindshell phone.  I know of
> someone who had all kinds of problems with hers.  She got the speaker
> repaired once, then her second phone stopped working all together.
> She got herself an iPhone, and is much happier.  I wouldn't take a
> blindshell phone if you gave me one.
>
> On 5/3/21, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> > Hi Kate,
> >
> > I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But
> here
> > are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.   Click on the settings app.
> >
> > 2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.
> >
> > 3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.
> >
> > 4.   Close settings and you are done.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.
> >
> > If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over.
> If
> > you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.
> >
> > When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to
> > make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with
> > one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move
> your
> > finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So
> > say you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to
> open
> > settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after you
> > hear settings to open the settings app.
> >
> >
> >
> > Let us know any other questions you may have.
> >
> > Mr. Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Kait Forbes
> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> >
> >
> >
> > okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
> > Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
> will
> > be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
> Let's
> > just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but
> > nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
> this
> > and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know
> that
> > I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard
> > time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not
> > overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things just
> one
> > step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I
> truly
> > believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is just
> her
> > and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for
> her
> > but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the plate for
> her as
> > she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you
> > here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be
> > forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I
> may?
> >  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to know she can
> use
> > it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If she starts with
> > this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any additional voice
> > commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds probably
> like
> > an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that is
> enough.
> > I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 1
> using
> > hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right
> > track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more
> > and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I
> > assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I
> > thank you very much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait
> >
> >
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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

Could you tell me if by doing this does it have to be in her voice to awake
it or can I set it up and she would be able to activate it?

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:00 PM Mr. Ed  wrote:

> Hi Kate,
>
> I’ll let you decide what type of phone to use for your grandmother. But
> here are the step to turn on “Hey Siri.”
>
>
>
> 1.   Click on the settings app.
>
> 2.   Go to Siri and Search and click on this.
>
> 3.   Click on “Listen to hey Siri” to turn this on.
>
> 4.   Close settings and you are done.
>
>
>
> Now just say “Hey Siri what time is it?” and Siri should answer.
>
> If you want to turn Voice Over on just say Hey Siri turn on Voice Over. If
> you want to turn Voice Over off just say Hey Siri turn off Voice Over.
>
> When you have voice Over on you can swipe with one finger to the right to
> make the focus go to the right and if you want to go left just flick with
> one finger to make the focus go left. You can also just touch or move your
> finger around the screen and voice Over will announce what you are on. So
> say you are on the settings app and VO says Settings and if you want to
> open settings you do a one finger double tap anywhere on the screen after
> you hear settings to open the settings app.
>
>
>
> Let us know any other questions you may have.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 02, 2021 5:17 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
> Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
> will be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
> Let's just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow
> but  nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
> this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I
> know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having
> a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do
> not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things
> just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.
> I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is
> just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone
> up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the
> plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot
> from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me ,
> I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start
> with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to
> know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If
> she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any
> additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this
> sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough
> that that is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she
> calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said
> am I on the right track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show
> her there is more and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten
> stuff I know but I assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you
> all understand?  I thank you very much for your kindness, support and
> consideration.  Kait
>
>
>
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> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri in
> Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five prompts,
> so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone
> nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an
> emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be
> used that way.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Hi Kate,
> You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri t

Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

I am not sure I understand this post?  Are you referring to another phone?
Kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:47 AM Larry Lumpkin 
wrote:

> I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs,
> who cares whether you can get rid of it or not.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Cryptic responses like this help no one.
> Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it?
>
> We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>
> Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because
> when you get that phone you can’t get rid of it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful
> research.
> >
> > I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT&T and is
> giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now
> is having some real issues; she can't even sell it.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> >
> > You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that
> would be easier for your grandmother.
> >
> > The flat screen can really put people off at first.
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=OXIIonTfGLPMJP%2BWQunDjDmvla%2FZANZxE2GFGpIxqcU%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> >
> >On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Kait,
> >
> >
> >
> >This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device
> with adaptive technology.
> >
> >
> >
> >Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
> >
> >
> >
> >Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is
> difficult in the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as
> voiceover the screen reader then you really start having clashs
> >
> >I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a
> mobile and computer.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >As you say just take it one step at a time,
> >
> >
> >
> >As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on,
> >
> >She should be able to use it to call 911,
> >
> >
> >
> >The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press
> 5 times  should give you an sos format of calling,
> >
> >
> >
> >Which may or may not be a good thing,
> >
> >
> >
> >Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now
> has an alert for people that have fallen
> >
> >So if you had a watch for your gran,
> >
> >The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency
> services know that she had fallen.
> >
> >
> >
> >Hope this is of some use,
> >
> >Good luck and feel free to ask anything.
> >
> >
> >
> >From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Kait Forbes
> >Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
> >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Re: In need of assistance
> >
> >
> >
> >okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with
> my Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she do

Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to
the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.
She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this
position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
the darn phone it's a start.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>
> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and
> has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to
> her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
> phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>
> Kait
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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my
Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that
will be introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.
Let's just say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow
but  nothing more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought
this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I
know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having
a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do
not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things
just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down.
I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit.  It is
just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone
up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I need to step up to the
plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know I am asking a lot
from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me ,
I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like to start
with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to
know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  If
she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this
sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough
that that is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she
calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said
am I on the right track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show
her there is more and to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten
stuff I know but I assure you this is how it must be done.  I do hope you
all understand?  I thank you very much for your kindness, support and
consideration.  Kait

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

> Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to Siri in
> Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five prompts,
> so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone
> nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an
> emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be
> used that way.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In need of assistance
>
> Hi Kate,
> You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn on voice
> over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned on in
> settings or by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt.
> Mr. Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Shai
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In need of assistance
>
> Hello Kate,
> I'd also be happy to help. The tripple press of the home button is only in
> effect when the phone has been turned on for the first time.
> If it's already been set up, then the user would go to
> settings/accessibility/accessibility shortcut and select VoiceOver to
> configure this.
> After that, then use the tripple press of the home button to turn on
> VoiceOver.
> My contact information is in the signature line.
>
>
> On 5/2/21, Kait Forbes  wrote:
> > Good morning everyone,
> >
> > Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother,
> > she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.
> > I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting
> > with her phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups
> > that can do this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge
> to assist her.
> > I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the
> > version iso
> > 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> > her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
> > Kait
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In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

Good morning everyone,

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
Kait

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