RE: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[ajvece]

That Seeing AI app really amazes me!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

 

Would be nice if KNFB would also include an instant mode where it reads what 
the camera sees without having to interact with the phone.

I also find that in many situations the short text channel in the Seeing AI app 
does all the OCR I need.

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

 

That is not my experience at all. 

But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.

With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.

But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.

Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.

Something I've asked for since it was released.

Here's hoping it finally happens.

Richard

 

 

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On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very few 
flaws at all.

In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.

Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.

So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.




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RE: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10

[ajvece]

Congratulations!!!

 

 

From: the.big.apple@icloud.com [mailto:the.big.apple@icloud.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 4:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10

 

Hi, 

I received an iPhone X for Christmas and am loving it. As Aleeha said the 
gestures are very easy to learn. I did however get to practice the gestures 
before Christmas but didn’t get them very well until I got to spend more time 
using it. 

 

Maria Reyes 

 

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On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:22 AM -0500, "Aleeha Dudley" 
mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, 

There is an unboxing of the X on iaccessibility.net  
 in the archives. 

Jonathan Mosen also did some demonstrations. 

Hope that helps,

Aleeha 





On Jan 18, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Turabh mailto:turab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all

Thanks a lot for your inputs. I believe Ill go in for a iPhone X. Aleeha could 
u suggest some tutorials, podcasts etc. to help better understand and use the X.

 

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On 18-Jan-2018, at 11:44 PM, Anthony Vece mailto:ajv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It’s also available on the iPhone 8+.

 





On Jan 18, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Aleeha Dudley mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, 

 

Wireless charging is available on both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X. 

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On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Fanus mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello Kelly

Thannks for the explanation. Just one other question: I heard that the iPhone 8 
can be charged by placing it on some or other charge pad, more or less like the 
charging method of the apple watch. Is this true for iPhone 8 or is it only for 
the iPhone X?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: Kelly Pierce 

Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:38 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Choice between a iPhone 8 and iPhone 10

 

For the blind, the big differences are that the x has face ID and no
home button on the screen. Both have the same processor so performance
will be the same in each phone. The reason technology journalists say
that the 8 is a disappointment is because the 8 was an incremental
upgrade with no new technology. The x has a new camera system and a
bigger screen with greater image quality. Face recognition is way more
accurate than in Samsung phones. I don’t believe the X is worth the
price for blind users though.

Kelly



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> interface is what Apple is moving toward, and is fully accessible. I like
> the look of the phone a lot, and think it is very snappy.
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>> Hi all,
>> Hope this message  finds you well.
>> Want to go in for a new  phone. Hence want  to know how much an edge an X
>> would  have over an  8 specifically  from a visually  impaired users
>> perspective: considering that here  in India there  is a huge price
>> difference . Also, is the  new  interface and other  features of X fully
>> compatible with voiceover? Finally, 8 users  how  is your experience, for
>> some tech  magazine  in india have enlisted the 8 among the
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>> Best
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RE: Air Pods with Victor Reader Trek

[ajvece]

Hi Denise;

 

I  was the one who said the volume was too low.

the volume was barely audible. I wanted to see if anyone else has experienced 
this. I also have noticed the volume is rather low when using the air pods w 
AirPods will show up on the Trek menu.

 

Hope this helps

God Bless

Anthony

ith the Apple watch Series 3.

 

 

 

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