RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: netatmo problems

2020-01-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Keith,

When I got my first Netatmo the app was almost unusable and back then (I think 
it was around 2012 or 2013) their head developer was a Spanish guy named Carlos 
who fortunately was very interested in making this accessible. He gave me 
access to Beta versions via Testflight and for a few months I spend a lot of 
time testing and suggesting. It's actually been on my To Do List to see if he 
is still there and to contact him about this issue. Switching pages and swiping 
works just fine, but it would be nice if that information was on the screen 
where you could also explore it more easily by touch.
Also, it would be nice if historic data was accessible, e.g. yesterday's 
minimum and maximum temperatures etc. which currently cannot be accessed with 
Voiceover.

By the way, if you are for example, on your main indoor module, do you get 
minimum and maximum temperatures or does it go from current temperature 
straight to CO2 level?
If you don't get minimum and maximum, then next time you swipe and get to the 
current temperature just do a double tap and that will permanently reveal 
minimum and maximum for that day.
This applies to any of the modules.

Lastly, apparently the newer Netatmo Stations are home Kit compatible, not sure 
if you have to do anything, but you should be able to ask SIRI for information 
and have it displayed in the Home app.
If you own an Alexa device then there is also a Netatmo skill and it works 
reasonably well.
If I want to know the outdoor temperature I ask Alexa the following:

Alexa, ask Netatmo what the temperature is outside.
Or I can ask:
Alexa, ask Netatmo what the temperature is in the bedroom (or kitchen or 
downstairs)
I named my modules Kitchen (for the indoor module of the main station), my 
other modules are Bedroom and Downstairs and I actually bought a third indoor 
module a while back, but haven't set it up yet and my outdoor module is called 
"Deck".
However, if I ask for temperature for the deck Alexa say s it can't find it and 
tells me I have modules called Kitchen, Bedroom and Downstairs, then it asks do 
I want information for the first, second and third and I can say "second" and 
it will give me the Bedroom, but for all indoor modules when Alexa answers it 
will say "The temperature inside is, for example, 21 degrees, it will not 
answer "The temperature in the bedroom is 21 degrees" or "the temperature 
downstairs is 19 degrees".
My main station is too old to support Home Kit, maybe some day I'll buy a new 
one and try to sell this one, but for sure I would wait for one of their 20% 
off events and then maybe I'll use some of my Aeroplan points which also allow 
me to buy Amazon gift cards since I think you can buy Netatmo through Amazon as 
well.
I think Netatmo is still one of the best weather stations out there and while 
some thermostats offer sensors you can put in different rooms, I haven't really 
come across another actual weather station which gives you such a comprehensive 
set of information especially if you do end up getting the full package 
including rain gauge and wind gauge which I have. I still have to mount the 
wind gauge properly on my roof, I asked a guy who does metal work and welding 
to make me a 1 m tall pole with a V-shaped base which I can mount on the 
ridgeline of my roof and which has a small plate to which I can attach the 
little mount that comes with the wind gauge, but he didn't get it done before 
the winter hit and while it hadn't snowed much, we did get a dump of about 8 
inches yesterday so it's probably better to wait until April when the snow will 
be gone and I can mount this properly and permanently. The same goes for my 
rain gauge, I usually just have it on the table on my deck, but ideally it 
should also be on a pole about 4 feet off the ground. Anyways, I always take it 
inside in the winter since we rarely get liquid rain here between mid November 
and the end of March and even if it does rain here and there, it often freezes 
then at night and constructing some sort of heated surrounding so the snow 
melts and the rain gauge can operate is entirely too much trouble. 

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 12:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: netatmo problems

thanks very much, Sigg hard. I never would’ve figured this out without your 
guidance.
I did search their help topics for voiceover and accessibility, but 
unfortunately found no hits. It would be nice if this kind of information were 
included there in.
Best, Keith

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> That is unfortunately how the app works, it could be better but it's workable 
> as it is.
> The trick is that once you flick up for example to change from page 1 to 2 
> and say from your main indoor module to th

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: netatmo problems

2020-01-03 Thread 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
thanks very much, Sigg hard. I never would’ve figured this out without your 
guidance.
I did search their help topics for voiceover and accessibility, but 
unfortunately found no hits. It would be nice if this kind of information were 
included there in.
Best, Keith

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> That is unfortunately how the app works, it could be better but it's workable 
> as it is.
> The trick is that once you flick up for example to change from page 1 to 2 
> and say from your main indoor module to the second indoor module, just start 
> flicking right without touching anything else.
> Then the information of that module is read and the same applies if you have 
> extra outdoor modules like a rain or wind gauge.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 11:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: netatmo problems
> 
> hi, I have purchased a new Netatmo WeatherStation. I believe I have set it up 
> correctly. But when I go into the app, I cannot access reliably anything 
> other than the main weather station indoor module. There are options to 
> switch pages among one of four and 1 of 5, and when I do that, it quickly 
> reverts to the original page.
> Is this app still usable with voiceover?
> 
> Also, I have the Netatmo Comfort app for my phone. on that, I can access only 
> my two additional indoor modules, but neither the WeatherStation indoor 
> module nor the outdoor module. Does this app still work, too?
> Any help appreciated. Best, Keith
> 
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