Accessibility/readability of google books
When I refer here, in the subject line, to accessibility or readability of Google books, I do not mean Google play books or any other related e-books. Google books seem to be set and I believe are either pictorial representations/graphical representations of the books and therefore are unreadable to screen readers such as voice-over. I have found a book I am desperately seeking but it is only available on Google books, andnot in any other format. Before I give up on it, I wanted to see if anybody has had any experiences of being able to read these books? Often, you canget a Previous page button and next page button but it does not seem to speak any of the actual text on the pages. This is my experience both with jawsand with VO on my iPhone. I just thought I'd check to see if anybody has had any different experiences. Thanks in advance. Kirsten Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessibility/readability of google books
The Google books on the web that are not specifically ebooks are scanned images. As far as I'm aware, the only thing you could try is scanning each page and performing OCR on it. This seems extremely labor-intensive. Have you looked for other sources? Unfortunately, it might almost be easier to get a hardcopy outhe book if there are no ebook versions available anywhere. Teresa On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: When I refer here, in the subject line, to accessibility or readability of Google books, I do not mean Google play books or any other related e-books. Google books seem to be set and I believe are either pictorial representations/graphical representations of the books and therefore are unreadable to screen readers such as voice-over. I have found a book I am desperately seeking but it is only available on Google books, andnot in any other format. Before I give up on it, I wanted to see if anybody has had any experiences of being able to read these books? Often, you canget a Previous page button and next page button but it does not seem to speak any of the actual text on the pages. This is my experience both with jawsand with VO on my iPhone. I just thought I'd check to see if anybody has had any different experiences. Thanks in advance. Kirsten Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessibility/readability of google books
The first book I read on my IPhone was a Google book. I found the book, bought it, and then read it without any difficulty straight through. That was a couple of years ago, so I don't know if the app has changed, but my experience was quite good. Penny On 7/23/13, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: The Google books on the web that are not specifically ebooks are scanned images. As far as I'm aware, the only thing you could try is scanning each page and performing OCR on it. This seems extremely labor-intensive. Have you looked for other sources? Unfortunately, it might almost be easier to get a hardcopy outhe book if there are no ebook versions available anywhere. Teresa On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: When I refer here, in the subject line, to accessibility or readability of Google books, I do not mean Google play books or any other related e-books. Google books seem to be set and I believe are either pictorial representations/graphical representations of the books and therefore are unreadable to screen readers such as voice-over. I have found a book I am desperately seeking but it is only available on Google books, andnot in any other format. Before I give up on it, I wanted to see if anybody has had any experiences of being able to read these books? Often, you canget a Previous page button and next page button but it does not seem to speak any of the actual text on the pages. This is my experience both with jawsand with VO on my iPhone. I just thought I'd check to see if anybody has had any different experiences. Thanks in advance. Kirsten Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessibility/readability of google books
As far as I understand it, Kirsten's reference was to the books that are searchable in google, which are not ebooks. These are scanned images from books, and aren't readable with an accessible app or screen-reader. Teresa On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote: The first book I read on my IPhone was a Google book. I found the book, bought it, and then read it without any difficulty straight through. That was a couple of years ago, so I don't know if the app has changed, but my experience was quite good. Penny On 7/23/13, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: The Google books on the web that are not specifically ebooks are scanned images. As far as I'm aware, the only thing you could try is scanning each page and performing OCR on it. This seems extremely labor-intensive. Have you looked for other sources? Unfortunately, it might almost be easier to get a hardcopy outhe book if there are no ebook versions available anywhere. Teresa On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: When I refer here, in the subject line, to accessibility or readability of Google books, I do not mean Google play books or any other related e-books. Google books seem to be set and I believe are either pictorial representations/graphical representations of the books and therefore are unreadable to screen readers such as voice-over. I have found a book I am desperately seeking but it is only available on Google books, andnot in any other format. Before I give up on it, I wanted to see if anybody has had any experiences of being able to read these books? Often, you canget a Previous page button and next page button but it does not seem to speak any of the actual text on the pages. This is my experience both with jawsand with VO on my iPhone. I just thought I'd check to see if anybody has had any different experiences. Thanks in advance. Kirsten Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http
Re: Accessibility/readability of google books
Thank you Teresa, you have confirmed my suspicions. Penny, I think you might be referring to books which are now called Google play books. I have an app for those which works well, as well as Kindle of course and nook and IBooks. I think, in that regard, I have every app Going for the purposes of book reading. Oh well, I will buy a printed copy and scan it in with ViewScan and the Mac… LOL Thanks Kirsten Sent from my iPhone On 23 Jul 2013, at 16:20, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I understand it, Kirsten's reference was to the books that are searchable in google, which are not ebooks. These are scanned images from books, and aren't readable with an accessible app or screen-reader. Teresa On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote: The first book I read on my IPhone was a Google book. I found the book, bought it, and then read it without any difficulty straight through. That was a couple of years ago, so I don't know if the app has changed, but my experience was quite good. Penny On 7/23/13, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: The Google books on the web that are not specifically ebooks are scanned images. As far as I'm aware, the only thing you could try is scanning each page and performing OCR on it. This seems extremely labor-intensive. Have you looked for other sources? Unfortunately, it might almost be easier to get a hardcopy outhe book if there are no ebook versions available anywhere. Teresa On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: When I refer here, in the subject line, to accessibility or readability of Google books, I do not mean Google play books or any other related e-books. Google books seem to be set and I believe are either pictorial representations/graphical representations of the books and therefore are unreadable to screen readers such as voice-over. I have found a book I am desperately seeking but it is only available on Google books, andnot in any other format. Before I give up on it, I wanted to see if anybody has had any experiences of being able to read these books? Often, you canget a Previous page button and next page button but it does not seem to speak any of the actual text on the pages. This is my experience both with jawsand with VO on my iPhone. I just thought I'd check to see if anybody has had any different experiences. Thanks in advance. Kirsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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That makes perfect sense. Sorry for my confusion. Penny On 7/23/13, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: Thank you Teresa, you have confirmed my suspicions. Penny, I think you might be referring to books which are now called Google play books. I have an app for those which works well, as well as Kindle of course and nook and IBooks. I think, in that regard, I have every app Going for the purposes of book reading. Oh well, I will buy a printed copy and scan it in with ViewScan and the Mac… LOL Thanks Kirsten Sent from my iPhone On 23 Jul 2013, at 16:20, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I understand it, Kirsten's reference was to the books that are searchable in google, which are not ebooks. These are scanned images from books, and aren't readable with an accessible app or screen-reader. Teresa On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote: The first book I read on my IPhone was a Google book. I found the book, bought it, and then read it without any difficulty straight through. That was a couple of years ago, so I don't know if the app has changed, but my experience was quite good. Penny On 7/23/13, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: The Google books on the web that are not specifically ebooks are scanned images. As far as I'm aware, the only thing you could try is scanning each page and performing OCR on it. This seems extremely labor-intensive. Have you looked for other sources? Unfortunately, it might almost be easier to get a hardcopy outhe book if there are no ebook versions available anywhere. Teresa On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote: When I refer here, in the subject line, to accessibility or readability of Google books, I do not mean Google play books or any other related e-books. Google books seem to be set and I believe are either pictorial representations/graphical representations of the books and therefore are unreadable to screen readers such as voice-over. I have found a book I am desperately seeking but it is only available on Google books, andnot in any other format. Before I give up on it, I wanted to see if anybody has had any experiences of being able to read these books? Often, you canget a Previous page button and next page button but it does not seem to speak any of the actual text on the pages. This is my experience both with jawsand with VO on my iPhone. I just thought I'd check to see if anybody has had any different experiences. Thanks in advance. Kirsten -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
