Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
Yes I’m aware of this they are a neat invention indeed.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

Hi Robin,

 

Apart from the power-saving benefits, another advantage of LED light bulbs is 
their long life. A good LED bulb will last about 15 to 20 years with normal use 
of a few hours a day.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Hi,

It would also be interesting if such systems could indicate when a bulb has 
died and needs replacing. Dead light bulbs are the bane of my existence (smile).

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Steve,

 

That’s a matter of opinion and also very much depends on the size of your 
dwelling. If you live in a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment I agree that it’s not hard 
to figure out what lights are on with a light detector or even by checking the 
switch positions. If you have a 2 or 3 story house with 4 or 5 bedrooms, 
several bathrooms, a utility room, family room, living room, kitchen and so on 
it’s a different matter. You’d be running all over the place, up and down the 
stairs  where you could just pull up your app and turn off all lights at once. 
Then there is of course the advantage of being able to set schedules where 
maybe a few lights come on here and there if you are not home to give the 
impression somebody is home.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Be a lot simpler to use a light detector app.

- Original Message - 

From: Cheryl Homiak <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:29 AM

Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Oh, that would be so wonderful! 

 

I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off 
when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find it 
almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they should be 
on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what other people 
may have done!

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

 

Go beyond the Christmas story this year;

meet Immanuel (God with us),

Jesus, the crucified Savior,

Christ, the risen LORD!!!

 

 

 

 

 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> > wrote:

 

I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

 

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-) 


To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
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- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point wher

RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Thanks, Ben, I know jailbreaking does has a few interesting perks, but I assume 
Apple will give developers access to SIRI sooner or later and it's probably 
going to be sooner rather than later. I heard a demo when SIRI first came out 
where the guy who did the demo had found a way to control his WiFi thermostat 
with SIRI.

Apart from a focus on health related stuff, I think there will be a lot of new 
stuff in the area of home automation. I heard that some developers found code 
somewhere which indicates Apple may design a new Apple TV to be not just for TV 
and other media, but also the hub for everything related to home automation. I 
think this would make total sense since your Apple TV sits there all the time, 
it's already connected to your home network and could easily pass along all 
sorts of commands and requests.


Regards,
Sieghard

a guy had 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

Hi Sieghard,

I have the Wemo switch which lets me turn power outlets on / off
remotely; as far as I'm aware all the Wemo devices use the same app
for control & in my experience the app is fully accessible. With a
little bit of jailbreak magic I can now turn things on and off around
the house with my voice. I know jailbreaking's not really your thing
but sometimes it's nice to show what can be done.

As a side note, solutions for controling wemo devices outside of iOS
aren't overly great at the moment but I did find this
http://moderntoil.com/?p=839 shell script which works for me. It can
be made to run under Windows with the help of sigwin.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 12/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which
> can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light
> bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
> and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
> get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
> additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
> but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
> household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.
>
>
>
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo
> line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which
> cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps
> ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be
> $19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can
> pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so
> paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am
> still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all
> bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part
> become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn
> off
> all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may
> only be 2 or 3 years away).
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
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RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Robin,

 

Apart from the power-saving benefits, another advantage of LED light bulbs is 
their long life. A good LED bulb will last about 15 to 20 years with normal use 
of a few hours a day.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Hi,

It would also be interesting if such systems could indicate when a bulb has 
died and needs replacing. Dead light bulbs are the bane of my existence (smile).

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Steve
Be a lot simpler to use a light detector app.
- Original Message - 
From: Cheryl Homiak
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi 
connected LED light bulbs


Oh, that would be so wonderful!


I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off 
when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find 
it almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they 
should be on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what 
other people may have done!


-- 
Cheryl




Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!










On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:


I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without 
turning said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home 
environment control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be 
included here!   ;-)

To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I 
have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the 
rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has 
come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, 
if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a 
kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the 
long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open 
their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they 
really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of 
creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never 
put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me 
good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
  Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs


  Hi List,

  I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and 
whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, 
the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can 
then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs 
via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change 
the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think 
of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so 
on.

  The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge 
and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can 
get a bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and 
additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, 
but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 
household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.

  I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo 
line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which 
cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps 
ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be 
$19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can 
pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so 
paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am 
still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all 
bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part 
become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off 
all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may 
only be 2 or 3 years away).


  Regards,
  Sieghard



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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi Sieghard,

I have the Wemo switch which lets me turn power outlets on / off
remotely; as far as I'm aware all the Wemo devices use the same app
for control & in my experience the app is fully accessible. With a
little bit of jailbreak magic I can now turn things on and off around
the house with my voice. I know jailbreaking's not really your thing
but sometimes it's nice to show what can be done.

As a side note, solutions for controling wemo devices outside of iOS
aren't overly great at the moment but I did find this
http://moderntoil.com/?p=839 shell script which works for me. It can
be made to run under Windows with the help of sigwin.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 12/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which
> can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light
> bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
> and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
> get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
> additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
> but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
> household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.
>
>
>
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo
> line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which
> cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps
> ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be
> $19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can
> pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so
> paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am
> still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all
> bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part
> become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn
> off
> all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may
> only be 2 or 3 years away).
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
It would also be interesting if such systems could indicate when a bulb has 
died and needs replacing. Dead light bulbs are the bane of my existence (smile).
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Rose Combs
Light detector is wonderful for finding lights around.  I don’t think I know 
anything about the lights you are talking about here, in fact, I know I haven’t 
a clue but I do know how guests seem to turn on every light in the house and 
then leave me to figure out which ones are on and I find some I’d least expect, 
like in my bedroom where they were not invited or expected to be.  Drives me a 
bit crazy.  Not sure I would automate this place anyway it would probably break 
everything, and I have had enough things stop working here over the past 
several months.  

 

Need to change batteries in a talking thermostat today, hope I have the right 
batteries and can figure out how to do this, recall Tom taking it off the wall 
once a few years ago, not sure if I can do it or will have to call 
cousin/husband over 100 miles away to help, hopefully since I know how to use 
almost any hand tool I can do this alone.  If I don’t have the right batteries 
I can call someone close but she is not mechanical at all, I know 10 times what 
she does about fixing anything.  She is a great driver, great finder if 
something its lost but no mechanic.  

 

At least Dad knew life would be difficult enough, so he taught me at a very 
early age how to use hand tools, screwdrivers, wrenches, of all types and how 
to take apart and put things together.  I could have been only about four when 
I replaced a door knob that was a problem in their house.  Mom did not want me 
to do it but once I did she was glad she did not have to wait for Dad to come 
home and fix it.  

Still messing with this thermostat is not my idea of fun but if I don’t I won’t 
have the right assistance until Christmas Eve.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

 

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-) 


To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have 
not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But 
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- 
apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything 
belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, 
charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the 
year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts 
freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were 
fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on 
other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold 
or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me 
good; and I say, God bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which c

RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Betty,

Thanks for this discovery. I'll probably get this Snoozie app just because the 
developer seems so interested in supporting accessibility. I think I am going 
to buy a start package of Philipps Hue in the relatively near future and then 
I'll report back as to how this all works out.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Denny Schwab
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

Hello,

Here is the first item I found when I did a google search for this product:

http://www.everyhue.com/vanilla/discussion/778/snoozy-2-0-is-launched

This is not quite what you were looking for, but it does work with the
above lights and the developer looks to be very willing to work with
accessibility.  Look down at the comments and see where the developer
mentions putting in many accessibility support items for blind-users.

I have not gone and downloaded the application, but may very well do
so in the near future.

Thanks,

Denny

On 12/19/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> That is where at this point the Light Detector app comes in handy.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi
> connected LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Oh, that would be so wonderful!
>
>
>
> I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off
> when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find
> it almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they
> should be on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what
> other people may have done!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
>
>
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik  <mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> > wrote:
>
>
>
> I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted
> company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without
> turning said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home
> environment control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.
>
>
>
> But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be
> included here!   ;-)
>
> 
> To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
> Holland & Bill
> - "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I
> have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the
> rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has
> come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin,
> if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a
> kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the
> long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open
> their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they
> really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of
> creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never
> put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me
> good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!'"
> - "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
>
> Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected
> LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
&g

Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Denny Schwab
Hello,

Here is the first item I found when I did a google search for this product:

http://www.everyhue.com/vanilla/discussion/778/snoozy-2-0-is-launched

This is not quite what you were looking for, but it does work with the
above lights and the developer looks to be very willing to work with
accessibility.  Look down at the comments and see where the developer
mentions putting in many accessibility support items for blind-users.

I have not gone and downloaded the application, but may very well do
so in the near future.

Thanks,

Denny

On 12/19/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> That is where at this point the Light Detector app comes in handy.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi
> connected LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Oh, that would be so wonderful!
>
>
>
> I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off
> when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find
> it almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they
> should be on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what
> other people may have done!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
>
>
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik  <mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> > wrote:
>
>
>
> I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted
> company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without
> turning said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home
> environment control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.
>
>
>
> But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be
> included here!   ;-)
>
> 
> To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
> Holland & Bill
> - "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I
> have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the
> rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has
> come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin,
> if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a
> kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the
> long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open
> their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they
> really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of
> creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never
> put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me
> good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!'"
> - "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
>
> Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected
> LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
> and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
> get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
> additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
> but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
> household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.
>
>
>
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo
> line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which
> cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Phil

RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That is where at this point the Light Detector app comes in handy.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Oh, that would be so wonderful!

 

I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off 
when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find it 
almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they should be 
on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what other people 
may have done!

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

 

Go beyond the Christmas story this year;

meet Immanuel (God with us),

Jesus, the crucified Savior,

Christ, the risen LORD!!!

 

 

 

 

 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> > wrote:

 

I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

 

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-) 


To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have 
not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But 
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- 
apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything 
belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, 
charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the 
year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts 
freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were 
fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on 
other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold 
or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me 
good; and I say, God bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-18 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh, that would be so wonderful!

I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off 
when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find it 
almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they should be 
on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what other people 
may have done!

-- 
Cheryl


Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.
 
But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-)

To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have 
not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But 
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- 
apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything 
belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, 
charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the 
year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts 
freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were 
fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on 
other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold 
or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me 
good; and I say, God bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
> Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
> LED light bulbs
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
> the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the 
> product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then 
> talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via 
> the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the 
> colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of 
> and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.
>  
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 
> 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
> bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
> bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
> change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs 
> or BR30 floodlights.
>  
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo 
> line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which 
> cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps 
> ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be 
> $19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can 
> pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so 
> paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am 
> still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all 
> bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part 
> become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off 
> all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may 
> only be 2 or 3 years away).
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> 
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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-18 Thread Bill Gallik
I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-) 

To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have 
not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But 
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- 
apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything 
belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, 
charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the 
year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts 
freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were 
fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on 
other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold 
or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me 
good; and I say, God bless it!'"
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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
  Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs


  Hi List,

   

  I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

   

  The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 
3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

   

  I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo 
line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which 
cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps 
ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 
or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a 
good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 
premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering 
about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house 
are like this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the 
past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still 
wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years 
away).

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   


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Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

2014-12-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can
then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs
via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo
line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which
cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps
ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be
$19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can
pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so
paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am
still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all
bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part
become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off
all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may
only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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