Annoying behavior in Mail

2022-04-17 Thread William Outman
I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of mail 
messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I sometimes 
cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without being jumped 
somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to where I was, but 
other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
though there are more in the thread. 
Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
Bill Outman 


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Re: Annoying behavior in Mail

2022-04-17 Thread Alex Stone
I’ve also seen this, and in my experience there doesn’t have to be as many as 
twenty messages in the thread for it to happen. Unfortunately I don’t know a 
way around it. Ive sometimes found that closing mail and reopening it will 
work, but more often than not it won’t.

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> On 17 Apr 2022, at 19:22, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of 
> mail messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I 
> sometimes cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without being 
> jumped somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to where I was, 
> but other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
> There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
> though there are more in the thread. 
> Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
> message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
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Re: Annoying behavior in Mail

2022-04-17 Thread Ryan Mann
 think that’s why I stopped reading threads that way.  I have another way that 
is annoying, but reliable.  When I am in the list of messages, I expand the 
thread by flicking down with one fingeruntil VoiceOver says expand thread then 
double-tap.
Then I keep flicking to the right until I get to the first message in the 
thread.  I open the message and read it.
Then I hit the back button to get out of the message.
If I want to read any of the other messages, I flick until I find one I want to 
read and open it.
Yes, that’s tedious, but that’s the only reliable way I know how to read 
threads with VoiceOver.


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> On Apr 17, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> I’ve also seen this, and in my experience there doesn’t have to be as many 
> as twenty messages in the thread for it to happen. Unfortunately I don’t know 
> a way around it. Ive sometimes found that closing mail and reopening it will 
> work, but more often than not it won’t.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17 Apr 2022, at 19:22, William Outman  wrote:
>> 
>> I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of 
>> mail messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I 
>> sometimes cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without 
>> being jumped somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to where 
>> I was, but other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
>> There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
>> though there are more in the thread. 
>> Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
>> message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
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Re: Annoying behavior in Mail

2022-04-18 Thread Dan Yates
Thanks Ryan! You taught me something I didn’t know. I will use this technique 
because, just like others, I’ve gotten really weary of the messages jumping 
when trying to use the rotr setting


Dan 
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> On Apr 17, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
>  think that’s why I stopped reading threads that way.  I have another way 
> that is annoying, but reliable.  When I am in the list of messages, I expand 
> the thread by flicking down with one fingeruntil VoiceOver says expand thread 
> then double-tap.
> Then I keep flicking to the right until I get to the first message in the 
> thread.  I open the message and read it.
> Then I hit the back button to get out of the message.
> If I want to read any of the other messages, I flick until I find one I want 
> to read and open it.
> Yes, that’s tedious, but that’s the only reliable way I know how to read 
> threads with VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve also seen this, and in my experience there doesn’t have to be as many 
>> as twenty messages in the thread for it to happen. Unfortunately I don’t 
>> know a way around it. Ive sometimes found that closing mail and reopening it 
>> will work, but more often than not it won’t.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 17 Apr 2022, at 19:22, William Outman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of 
>>> mail messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I 
>>> sometimes cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without 
>>> being jumped somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to 
>>> where I was, but other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
>>> There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
>>> though there are more in the thread. 
>>> Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
>>> message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
>>> Bill Outman 
>>> 
>>> 
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