RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi Andy and Alan, A 3-finger swipe up will close the app and if you have only one or 2 apps to close I find I use that gesture as well. However, as Christopher already said, you can also close an app by flicking up or down with 1 finger which puts focus on the "Close" option of the action rotor and then double tap. What I think it was Ron was describing was an easy and quick method to close many apps since in the app switcher the rotor selection remains on "Close" once you put it there. This means if you flick up or down with one finger you can simply double tap on an app, it disappears and the next apps slides over in its place, you can now continue to only double tap to close it and so on. What I find works even better and I have posted this twice is to use the split tap. If I have 10 or more apps open and I want to close them all out I just find the one immediately to the right of the Home button, so pretty much right in the middle of the screen. I now flick down to change to Close, then I put one finger on the app and start split tapping. I only have a 4S, but doing this closes apps and slides them over just about as fast as I can split tap, there is no delay and I can close 10 or 12 apps in probably about 3 seconds. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will dismiss the highlighted app. Andy -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Ron Miller" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller > On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou > wrote: > > I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program > on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing > the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a > choice. > >> On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: >> Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have >> never >> >> got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other >> apps >> in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rose Combs" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM >> Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> >>> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing >>> else >>> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my >>> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >>> >>> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite >>> thing >>> in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact >>> seem >>> like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but >>> no >>> immediate plans to upgrade today. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Ricardo Walker >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >>> To: vipho
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
lol, if your home button wasn’t working, how would you get into the app switcher to begin with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't > working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > I was expecting applause, but I suppose stunned silence is equally > appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper > Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 > > On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi Cara, >> >> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the >> other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why >> bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the >> person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think >> home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line >> ridiculous. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >>> HI Christopher, >>> >>> For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the >>> next app in the switcher. >>> >>> Have a great day! >>> >>> Smiles, >>> >>> Cara :) >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain >>> wrote: >>> >>> I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger >>> swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now >>> has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to >>> swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for >>> you. >>> >>> Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the >>> iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting >>> issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for >>> the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from >>> discussing anything here on the list. >>> >>> On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad > On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: > > Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close > it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app > won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late > at > night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? > > I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. > Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets > focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that > app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap > after > changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next > app > in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in > IOS > 6. > >> On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: >> Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as >> to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to >> swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about >> that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock >> orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? >> Shawn >> Sent From My White MacBook >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> G
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
If you're physical home button isn't working then you have bigger problems than closing out your App Switcher! :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. On 10/02/2013 08:30 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button. -- Raul A. Gallegos I was expecting applause, but I suppose stunned silence is equally appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googl
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
If you flick up or down, you'll hear the option to remove the item from the App Switcher. You can then just double tap to have it removed. This is the action item in the roter, and the default action is to open the item. On 10/02/2013 07:28 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will dismiss the highlighted app. Andy -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Ron Miller" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've c
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
I agree with you here. I tried tapping on home but that did not take me back to home and I was forced to press the home button anyway, so why not just let the app do it for us! Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 2 Oct 2013, at 01:43 am, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I don’t think it really matters though. My entire point was, it doesn’t make sense for home to bee in the app switcher if all other apps are closed. It should just take you directly to the home screen since the only thing you can do is lock your phone or go to the home screen. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info > On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: > > I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program > on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing > the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a > choice. > >> On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: >> Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never >> >> got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps >> in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rose Combs" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM >> Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> >>> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else >>> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my >>> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >>> >>> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite >>> thing >>> in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem >>> like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but >>> no >>> immediate plans to upgrade today. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Ricardo Walker >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >>> To: viphone >>> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was >>> saying, >>> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been >>> close? >>> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the >>> homescreen >>> in the app switcher. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>>> >>>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >>>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >>>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >>>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >>>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >>>> then back to the app switcher. >>>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >>>> different from iOS 6. >>>> >>>>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>>>> >>>>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>>>> >>>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and have a good night! >>>>> >>>>> Cara :) >>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>>>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action >>> left to perform. >>>>> >>>>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>>>> apps, there is
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button. -- Raul A. Gallegos I was expecting applause, but I suppose stunned silence is equally appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to t
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will dismiss the highlighted app. Andy -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Ron Miller" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: "Rose Combs" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the ne
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened app? --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Ron Miller" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: "Rose Combs" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientati
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No I do this as well so not a rarity at all. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 01/10/2013 23:23, Ron Miller wrote: I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: "Rose Combs" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
I don't think you're that rare. I don't do it frequently, but occasionally I'll just go through and clean out everything in my App Switcher. From following the list, I think some people do this regularly, plus it's also a frequent suggestion when trouble shooting some issue on the phone. On 10/01/2013 05:23 PM, Ron Miller wrote: I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: "Rose Combs" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can d
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi, I don’t think it really matters though. My entire point was, it doesn’t make sense for home to bee in the app switcher if all other apps are closed. It should just take you directly to the home screen since the only thing you can do is lock your phone or go to the home screen. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: > I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program > on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing > the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a > choice. > > On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: >> Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never >> >> got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps >> in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rose Combs" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM >> Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> >>> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else >>> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my >>> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >>> >>> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite >>> thing >>> in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem >>> like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but >>> no >>> immediate plans to upgrade today. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Ricardo Walker >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >>> To: viphone >>> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was >>> saying, >>> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been >>> close? >>> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the >>> homescreen >>> in the app switcher. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>> >>>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >>>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >>>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >>>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >>>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >>>> then back to the app switcher. >>>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >>>> different from iOS 6. >>>> >>>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>>>> >>>>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>>>> >>>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and have a good night! >>>>> >>>>> Cara :) >>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>>>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action >>> left to perform. >>>>> >>>>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>>>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to >>>>> close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user >>>>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a >>>>> logical inevitability that that is the next acti
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
I use the two finger scrub to close the app switcher all of the time. Even in IOS 6. Eric Whitten On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: > I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program > on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing > the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a > choice. > > On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: >> Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never >> >> got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps >> in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rose Combs" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM >> Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> >>> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else >>> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my >>> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >>> >>> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite >>> thing >>> in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem >>> like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but >>> no >>> immediate plans to upgrade today. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Ricardo Walker >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >>> To: viphone >>> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was >>> saying, >>> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been >>> close? >>> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the >>> homescreen >>> in the app switcher. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>> >>>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >>>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >>>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >>>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >>>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >>>> then back to the app switcher. >>>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >>>> different from iOS 6. >>>> >>>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>>>> >>>>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>>>> >>>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and have a good night! >>>>> >>>>> Cara :) >>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>>>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action >>> left to perform. >>>>> >>>>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>>>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to >>>>> close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user >>>>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a >>>>> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? >>>>> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed >>>>> in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the >>>>> switcher, there was still a large list of things a p
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi, Oh! I love the new app switcher. Anything that requires me to do less screen taps and gestures is a good thing in my opinion. The new app switcher is way more efficient. It be even better if they change that home issue I was talking about earlier in the thread. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Rose Combs wrote: > Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else > left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my > devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. > > I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing > in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem > like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no > immediate plans to upgrade today. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM > To: viphone > Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] > > Hi, > > All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, > why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? > Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen > in the app switcher. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: > >> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >> then back to the app switcher. >> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >> different from iOS 6. >> >> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>> >>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>> >>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>> >>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>> >>> Thanks and have a good night! >>> >>> Cara :) >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker > wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action > left to perform. >>> >>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to >>> close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user >>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a >>> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? >>> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed >>> in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the >>> switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still >>> do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no >>> longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to > control center. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> >>>> HI Ricardo, >>>> >>>> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the >>>> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. >>>> >>>> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can >>>> dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the >>>> scrub that I know of. >>>> >>>> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask >>>> someone. >>>> >>>> Interesting discussion! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> &g
RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
I close every app every morning, then power down and back up, seems to help with battery life along with a couple of other things. I should say I do this most days. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: > Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have > never > > got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other > apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. > - Original Message - > From: "Rose Combs" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM > Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] > > >> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing >> else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part >> of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >> >> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my >> favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to >> be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may >> make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Ricardo Walker >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >> To: viphone >> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> Hi, >> >> All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was >> saying, >> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been >> close? >> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the >> homescreen >> in the app switcher. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> >>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >>> then back to the app switcher. >>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >>> different from iOS 6. >>> >>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>>> >>>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>>> >>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>>> >>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>>> >>>> Thanks and have a good night! >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action >> left to perform. >>>> >>>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to >>>> close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user >>>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a >>>> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? >>>> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed >>>> in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the >>>> switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still >>>> do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no >>>> longer the cas
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded. I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close. Best regards, Ron Miller > On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: > > I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program > on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing > the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a > choice. > >> On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: >> Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never >> >> got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps >> in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rose Combs" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM >> Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> >>> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else >>> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my >>> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >>> >>> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite >>> thing >>> in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem >>> like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but >>> no >>> immediate plans to upgrade today. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Ricardo Walker >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >>> To: viphone >>> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was >>> saying, >>> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been >>> close? >>> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the >>> homescreen >>> in the app switcher. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>>> >>>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >>>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >>>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >>>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >>>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >>>> then back to the app switcher. >>>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >>>> different from iOS 6. >>>> >>>>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>>>> >>>>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>>>> >>>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and have a good night! >>>>> >>>>> Cara :) >>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>>>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action >>> left to perform. >>>>> >>>>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>>>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to th
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing the home button I can still see why Apple would have made this icon a choice. On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: > Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never > > got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps > in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. > - Original Message - > From: "Rose Combs" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM > Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] > > >> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else >> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my >> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >> >> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite >> thing >> in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem >> like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but >> no >> immediate plans to upgrade today. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Ricardo Walker >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >> To: viphone >> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> Hi, >> >> All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was >> saying, >> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been >> close? >> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the >> homescreen >> in the app switcher. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> >>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >>> then back to the app switcher. >>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >>> different from iOS 6. >>> >>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>>> >>>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>>> >>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>>> >>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>>> >>>> Thanks and have a good night! >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action >> left to perform. >>>> >>>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to >>>> close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user >>>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a >>>> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? >>>> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed >>>> in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the >>>> switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still >>>> do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no >>>> longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to >> control center. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> >>>>> HI Ricardo, >>>>> >>>>> Perh
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
For what its worth, even in iOS 6, when all apps were cloed you still had to hit the "close app switcher" area in order for the app switcher to close. Now in iOS 7, when all apps are closed, you have to hit the home area to close the switcher. Though it would be handy to have the app switcher close automatically when all running apps were closed, there doesn't seem to be any difference between the switcher's behavior before iOS 7 and its behavior in iOS 7. Hope all this makes sense. Perhaps having a home option is overkill. I like having home in there though since there are times I hit home instead of pressing the home button. Ah well, what's that saying, one person's trash and another person's treasure, ... :) Regards, Wayne On 10/1/13, Mich wrote: > Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never > > got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps > in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. > - Original Message - > From: "Rose Combs" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM > Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] > > >> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else >> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my >> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. >> >> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite >> thing >> in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem >> like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but >> no >> immediate plans to upgrade today. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Ricardo Walker >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM >> To: viphone >> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] >> >> Hi, >> >> All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was >> saying, >> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been >> close? >> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the >> homescreen >> in the app switcher. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> >>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. >>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close >>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, >>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on >>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, >>> then back to the app switcher. >>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally >>> different from iOS 6. >>> >>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >>>> >>>> Very good point and I agree with you. >>>> >>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >>>> >>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >>>> >>>> Thanks and have a good night! >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >>>> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action >> left to perform. >>>> >>>> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >>>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to >>>> close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user >>>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a >>>> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? >>>> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed >>>> in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the >>>> switcher, there was still a large list of
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich. - Original Message - From: "Rose Combs" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can't close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn't even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right.
RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen. I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing in IOS 7. Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem like eye candy to me. I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no immediate plans to upgrade today. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] Hi, All you said is true. But, that's not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: > Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. > Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close > 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, > you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on > app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, > then back to the app switcher. > In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally > different from iOS 6. > > On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >> >> Very good point and I agree with you. >> >> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO >> users or not. Now you've got me curious. >> >> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >> >> Thanks and have a good night! >> >> Cara :) >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have >> been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close >> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. >> >> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see >> the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I've close those 2 >> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to >> close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user >> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a >> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? >> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed >> in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the >> switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still >> do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no >> longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >>> HI Ricardo, >>> >>> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the >>> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. >>> >>> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can >>> dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the >>> scrub that I know of. >>> >>> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask >>> someone. >>> >>> Interesting discussion! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cara :) >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>> Hi Cara, >>> >>> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all >>> the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can't close >>> home, why bother having it as the last available option since >>> obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from >>> that point. lol. I think home shouldn't even be an option in the >>> app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi, All you said is true. But, that’s not what I was getting at. I was saying, why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close? Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in the app switcher. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: > Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. > Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close > 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, > you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on > app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, > then back to the app switcher. > In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally > different from iOS 6. > > On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: >> You're right! Didn't think about that. :) >> >> Very good point and I agree with you. >> >> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or >> not. Now you've got me curious. >> >> Will be exploring this with sighted friends. >> >> Thanks and have a good night! >> >> Cara :) >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been >> closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and >> go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. >> >> For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 >> apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I’ve close those 2 apps, there >> is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and >> return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture >> or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that >> that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over >> from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although >> all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of >> things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, >> etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have >> been moved to control center. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >>> HI Ricardo, >>> >>> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the >>> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. >>> >>> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss >>> the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know >>> of. >>> >>> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask >>> someone. >>> >>> Interesting discussion! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cara :) >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>> Hi Cara, >>> >>> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the >>> other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why >>> bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the >>> person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think >>> home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line >>> ridiculous. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: > In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we > lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like > to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and > problem... > > > Joanne Chua > The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
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I think Ricardo was saying that the Home area should exist only until all apps are closed, and then the App Switcher would just close automatically. Perhaps I misunderstood. thanks for such a great thread. Discussing design / UX is something I enjoy! Have a great night! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: > You're right! Didn't think about that. :) > > Very good point and I agree with you. > > I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or > not. Now you've got me curious. > > Will be exploring this with sighted friends. > > Thanks and have a good night! > > Cara :) > On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been > closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and > go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. > > For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 > apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I’ve close those 2 apps, there > is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and > return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture > or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that > that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over > from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although > all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of > things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, > etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have > been moved to control center. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > >> HI Ricardo, >> >> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the >> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. >> >> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss >> the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know >> of. >> >> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask >> someone. >> >> Interesting discussion! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cara :) >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi Cara, >> >> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the >> other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why >> bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the >> person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think >> home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line >> ridiculous. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >>> HI Christopher, >>> >>> For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to >>> the next app in the switcher. >>> >>> Have a great day! >>> >>> Smiles, >>> >>> Cara :) >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain >>> wrote: >>> >>> I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three >>> finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next >>> app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and >>> never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for >>> me but not for you. >>> >>> Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the >>> iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting >>> issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience >>> for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep >>> anyone from discussing anything here on the list. >>> >>> On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad > On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: > > Does not seem to work that way for me, I have
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time. Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, then back to the app switcher. In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally different from iOS 6. On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn wrote: > You're right! Didn't think about that. :) > > Very good point and I agree with you. > > I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or > not. Now you've got me curious. > > Will be exploring this with sighted friends. > > Thanks and have a good night! > > Cara :) > On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been > closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and > go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. > > For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 > apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I’ve close those 2 apps, there > is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and > return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture > or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that > that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over > from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although > all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of > things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, > etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have > been moved to control center. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > >> HI Ricardo, >> >> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the >> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. >> >> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss >> the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know >> of. >> >> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask >> someone. >> >> Interesting discussion! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cara :) >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi Cara, >> >> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the >> other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why >> bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the >> person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think >> home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line >> ridiculous. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >>> HI Christopher, >>> >>> For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to >>> the next app in the switcher. >>> >>> Have a great day! >>> >>> Smiles, >>> >>> Cara :) >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain >>> wrote: >>> >>> I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three >>> finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next >>> app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and >>> never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for >>> me but not for you. >>> >>> Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the >>> iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting >>> issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience >>> for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep >>> anyone from discussing anything here on the list. >>> >>> On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad > On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: > > Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to > close > it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home > app > won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this > late at > night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four > cylinders. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
You're right! Didn't think about that. :) Very good point and I agree with you. I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or not. Now you've got me curious. Will be exploring this with sighted friends. Thanks and have a good night! Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I’ve close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > HI Ricardo, > > Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen > where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. > > I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the > switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. > > Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. > > Interesting discussion! > > Thanks, > > Cara :) > On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi Cara, > > I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the > other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother > having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do > is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t > even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > >> HI Christopher, >> >> For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the >> next app in the switcher. >> >> Have a great day! >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger >> swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has >> focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe >> to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. >> >> Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the >> iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting >> issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for >> the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from >> discussing anything here on the list. >> >> On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>> In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy >>> to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to >>> complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and >>> problem... >>> >>> >>> Joanne Chua >>> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. >>> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate >>> Send from my iPad >>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This i
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi, But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been closed? The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform. For example, I have 2 apps running. in the app switcher, I will see the 2 apps plus the home screen. Cool. But, once I’ve close those 2 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and return to the home screen. So, why then force the user to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do? This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7. Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still do. Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc. But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to control center. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > HI Ricardo, > > Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen > where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. > > I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the > switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. > > Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. > > Interesting discussion! > > Thanks, > > Cara :) > On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi Cara, > > I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the > other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother > having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do > is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t > even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > >> HI Christopher, >> >> For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the >> next app in the switcher. >> >> Have a great day! >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger >> swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has >> focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe >> to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. >> >> Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the >> iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting >> issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for >> the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from >> discussing anything here on the list. >> >> On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>> In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy >>> to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to >>> complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and >>> problem... >>> >>> >>> Joanne Chua >>> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. >>> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate >>> Send from my iPad >>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. > On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: > Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as > to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to > swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about >
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
HI Ricardo, Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6. I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know of. Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask someone. Interesting discussion! Thanks, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > HI Christopher, > > For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the > next app in the switcher. > > Have a great day! > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger > swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has > focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe > to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. > > Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the > iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues > and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind > is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing > anything here on the list. > > On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy >> to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to >> complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... >> >> >> Joanne Chua >> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. >> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate >> Send from my iPad >> >>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: >>> >>> Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close >>> it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app >>> won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at >>> night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. >>> Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets >>> focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that >>> app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after >>> changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app >>> in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS >>> 6. >>> On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >>> Group. >>> >>> Post a new me
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi Cara, I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other apps from the switcher? I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from that point. lol. I think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher. Its border line ridiculous. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > HI Christopher, > > For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the > next app in the switcher. > > Have a great day! > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger > swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has > focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe > to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. > > Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the > iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues > and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind > is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing > anything here on the list. > > On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy >> to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to >> complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... >> >> >> Joanne Chua >> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. >> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate >> Send from my iPad >> >>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: >>> >>> Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close >>> it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app >>> won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at >>> night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. >>> Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets >>> focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that >>> app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after >>> changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app >>> in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS >>> 6. >>> On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >>> Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hmm, interesting. I just tried it again, and focus did go back to the home item. This definitely wasn't the case when I tried it this morning, and I hadn't noticed this in the past. Sorry about that. I'll have to keep paying attention. Sieghard did have a good suggestion with the split tap method. I assume using a double tap would also work if you didn't want to use two fingers. Honest, I hadn't noticed this in the past, and this morning, I did remove like a dozen apps from the App Switcher with about a dozen three finger swipes and no sweeping back and forth. I wonder what would explain this inconsistent behavior, other than my own mental health that is. On 09/30/2013 11:06 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For m
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
HI Christopher, For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next app in the switcher. Have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: > In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy > to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain > about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... > > > Joanne Chua > The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. > Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate > Send from my iPad > >> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: >> >> Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close >> it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app >> won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at >> night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. >> Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets >> focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that >> app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after >> changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app >> in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS >> 6. >> >>> On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: >>> Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as >>> to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to >>> swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about >>> that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock >>> orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White MacBook >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> Christopher (CJ) >> chaltain at Gmail >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> viphone+
RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Hi Christopher, Discussing features or the pros and cons of iOS 7 in a constructive way is I think just fine, but Joanne is not exactly wrong in what she said since there have been enough messages in the last 10 days which are really nothing more but complaints which in some cases approach wining. I absolutely don't want to give any examples here as I am not saying this to target anybody, it is just an observation. As far as closing apps, Christopher, try this, it' even faster than the 3-finger swipe up if you have let's say 8 or 10 apps or more which you want to close. Bring up the app switcher, visually you see Home on the left and 2 more apps, one in the middle and another on the right. Touch the app in the middle or swipe right from Home. Flick up or down to put focus on the Delete/Close option. Now put your finger back on the app and hold it and then start split tapping. You can split tap just about as fast as you can and one app after another will slide over, the Close option in the action rotor remains activated and I can close 10 or 15 apps as fast as I can split tap which is a lot faster than doing 10 or 15 3-finger swipes up. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"] I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: > In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... > > > Joanne Chua > The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. > Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate > Send from my iPad > >> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: >> >> Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to >> close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the >> home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is >> doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? >> >> I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. >> Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app >> gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to >> remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or >> the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't >> need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same >> as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. >> >>> On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: >>> Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as >>> to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to >>> swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question >>> about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can >>> lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White MacBook >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found b
Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Every now and then, my focus moves to home in the app switcher when I am closing apps with the 3 finger swipe up. However, swiping to the right usually moves me to the next app in the sequence and then I can go back to the 3 finger swipe up to close. Wish there was a gesture to close all running apps at once, but oh well. Regards, Wayne On 9/30/13, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three > finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next > app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and > never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for > me but not for you. > > Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or > the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and > reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better > experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message > doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. > > On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we >> lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to >> complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and >> problem... >> >> >> Joanne Chua >> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. >> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate >> Send from my iPad >> >>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: >>> >>> Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to >>> close >>> it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app >>> won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late >>> at >>> night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four >>> cylinders. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close >>> them. >>> Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets >>> focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove >>> that >>> app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap >>> after >>> changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next >>> app >>> in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in >>> IOS >>> 6. >>> On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>> Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are
App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you. Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list. On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem... Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" wrote: Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them. Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6. On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote: Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You receiv
The new App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
Well, there's two things I find so great about the App Switcher. The first is that I can get to all of my apps without having to switch pages. I really like not having to do a three finger swipe to get to anything but the last four apps in my App Switcher. The other thing I like is that I don't have to do a double tap and hold to be able to start deleting apps. I can just do a three finger swipe up or a flick up and then a double tap to remove an app from the App Switcher. A third thing I like is that I hear the status as to whether an app is running or not. On 09/27/2013 04:58 PM, Rose Combs wrote: What is so great about the app switcher, for me the old way worked a lot better. Then maybe it is because I don't swipe to every element on the screen, only do that occasionally, for the most part my fingers know where to go and that was certainly true in the older version. My husband has not figured out the new app switcher yet, but he has an excuse, he has been pretty ill and things that used to be easy for him to understand are more difficult now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts? Hello, I like the new app switcher, the extra features of Siri and the control center. I don't really appreciate the notification center. It looks rather cluttered with these three buttons "today", "all" and "missed". Would be nice if it was possible to disable these. Another thing that bothers me is that no matter what I try I can't get the weather widget back into the notification center. This was always a valuable piece of information to me. The new voices of Siri in German are okay. The male one is rather good, whereas the female one sounds awful. The German voice of VoiceOver has some errors it didn't have in iOS 6. For example, it's not even able to say "VoiceOver" or "app store" properly. This is ridiculous. In general, the voices got worse, even when you're using the premium voices. They have some crackling sounds and somehow I feel they were compressed. Like an MP3 file that was compressed to a lower bitrate which sounds worse but saves some memory. While the voices got worse, the audio quality still sounds good. And this contrast is awful, especially when you're listening to a podcast and a push notification is read meanwhile. The contrast is especially frustrating when using Siri. Siri almost talks like a human, but when you have to listen to additional information with VoiceOver, the contrast destroys all the good user experience. This used to be better on iOS 5 and 6 when VoiceOver and Siri sounded similar. This is so annoying that I don't think I'll use Siri that often. Another thing that bothers me is the issue of focus loss within several apps. It's especially frustrating in Twitter clients when you favorite a tweet and go back to your timeline or RSS readers. Also the "read all" gesture doesn't work on Feeddler. When you perform this gesture, VoiceOver starts every now and then, and you will have to find your reading position and perform the "read all" gesture again. So there's neither Twitter nor reading RSS feeds for me since iOS 7. Alexandra - Original Message - From: "Chris H" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: iOS 7, thoughts? So it's a week since iOS 7 was released to the public. What are your thoughts so far? As for me it's very good and I like the new features, such as Control Centre. However, while it is very usable on my iPhone 4, it is sluggish, at least from a VoiceOver user's standpoint. But I know it's going to run just fine on my upcoming iPhone 4s. All comments welcome. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
