Problem solved, was: RE: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

Thanks again, Reggie, for your helpful suggestions. Having tried everything, I 
called Apple Accessibility. The guy was very patient and helpful and we used 
the camera on my iPhone to view the TV screen. Having tried all kinds of 
things, including a software update, we ended up drawing a blank and simply 
doing a factory reset of the Apple TV. He was mystified and would have loved to 
find out what had caused the problem, as he hadn’t come across it before. Once 
I had done the factory reset, I was able to turn VoiceOver on and all is now 
working fine again – until next time!

Thanks to all for your patience and take care,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 22:47
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Nicolas, have you tried shutting your Apple TV down? Take out the cord that 
goes into the Apple TV not the HDMI but the other one that shuts it down wait 
for a couple minutes and then put it back in. Now let it reboot. Sometimes just 
a reboot on some of these devices will take care of any problem. I’m looking 
through my settings right now to see if I can help any other way, but since you 
can’t get to the settings, which is a problem, I’m not sure if I’m going to 
find anything that doesn’t require the settings part of it. Just thought of 
some thing. I wonder if somehow you got your Siri shut off in settings. 
Grasping at straws here. I think that there is no other way to shut it off 
except in settings or from the remote, but I’ve never had this happen. I know 
that on the phone you can shut it down completely with a home button or the 
side button depending on which one you have, but I think the Apple TV can just 
be totally shut off either in settings or on the remote. I don’t think there’s 
a mute on the Apple TV like there is on iOS. Still thinking though. I am also a 
relatively new user of the Apple TV so I probably don’t know as much as some 
people do.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



The volume of the VoiceOver navigation sounds is already quite loud, and I 
haven’t found a way to turn up the speech volume without having access to 
speech. Siri doesn’t seem to be clever enough to do that on the Apple TV, or if 
she is, it’s not making any difference.

Tomorrow I may try Be My Eyes, before calling Apple Accessibility. Does anyone 
know whether Apple Accessibility has a means of controlling the Apple TV 
remotely? Just curious.

Thanks,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Agent086b
Sent: 14 December 2020 21:40
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Hi,

have you tried to turn up the volume incase it is down low?

Max.






On 15 Dec 2020, at 6:50 am, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:

 

Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back on, 
both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. Siri 
obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.

Thanks again,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[regina alvarado]

Nicolas, have you tried shutting your Apple TV down? Take out the cord that 
goes into the Apple TV not the HDMI but the other one that shuts it down wait 
for a couple minutes and then put it back in. Now let it reboot. Sometimes just 
a reboot on some of these devices will take care of any problem. I’m looking 
through my settings right now to see if I can help any other way, but since you 
can’t get to the settings, which is a problem, I’m not sure if I’m going to 
find anything that doesn’t require the settings part of it. Just thought of 
some thing. I wonder if somehow you got your Siri shut off in settings. 
Grasping at straws here. I think that there is no other way to shut it off 
except in settings or from the remote, but I’ve never had this happen. I know 
that on the phone you can shut it down completely with a home button or the 
side button depending on which one you have, but I think the Apple TV can just 
be totally shut off either in settings or on the remote. I don’t think there’s 
a mute on the Apple TV like there is on iOS. Still thinking though. I am also a 
relatively new user of the Apple TV so I probably don’t know as much as some 
people do.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Dec 14, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Nicola Sanders  wrote:


The volume of the VoiceOver navigation sounds is already quite loud, and I 
haven’t found a way to turn up the speech volume without having access to 
speech. Siri doesn’t seem to be clever enough to do that on the Apple TV, or if 
she is, it’s not making any difference.
Tomorrow I may try Be My Eyes, before calling Apple Accessibility. Does anyone 
know whether Apple Accessibility has a means of controlling the Apple TV 
remotely? Just curious.
Thanks,
Nicky
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: 14 December 2020 21:40
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen
 
Hi,
have you tried to turn up the volume incase it is down low?
Max.


On 15 Dec 2020, at 6:50 am, Nicola Sanders  wrote:
 
Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back on, 
both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. Siri 
obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.
Thanks again,
Nicky
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen
 
Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders  wrote:


Hi all,
I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.
Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?
Many thanks in advance,
Nicky
 
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RE: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

The volume of the VoiceOver navigation sounds is already quite loud, and I 
haven’t found a way to turn up the speech volume without having access to 
speech. Siri doesn’t seem to be clever enough to do that on the Apple TV, or if 
she is, it’s not making any difference.

Tomorrow I may try Be My Eyes, before calling Apple Accessibility. Does anyone 
know whether Apple Accessibility has a means of controlling the Apple TV 
remotely? Just curious.

Thanks,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Agent086b
Sent: 14 December 2020 21:40
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Hi,

have you tried to turn up the volume incase it is down low?

Max.





On 15 Dec 2020, at 6:50 am, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:

 

Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back on, 
both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. Siri 
obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.

Thanks again,

Nicky

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

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Hi,
have you tried to turn up the volume incase it is down low?
Max.

> On 15 Dec 2020, at 6:50 am, Nicola Sanders  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back 
> on, both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. 
> Siri obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
> obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
> either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.
> Thanks again,
> Nicky
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen
>  
> Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
> the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 
> times again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple 
> accessibility. They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders  <mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
> speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
> sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
> tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
> so far.
> Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted 
> assistance, or will I have to do a factory reset?
> Many thanks in advance,
> Nicky
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RE: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

Thanks for the great suggestions, Reggie. I can turn VoiceOver off and back on, 
both with Siri and by pressing the button 3 times, but still no speech. Siri 
obeys commands, without speaking, and TV programmes play just fine, but 
obviously I need the speech back. I’ll definitely call Apple Accessibility, 
either today or tomorrow, and I’ll let the list know how I get on.

Thanks again,

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: 14 December 2020 20:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

 

Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > wrote:



Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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Re: Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[regina alvarado]

Did you try asking Siri to turn it off and then back on? Alternatively click 
the button with the ring around it 3 times. If nothing happens click it 3 times 
again and see if voice comes back. None of this works call apple accessibility. 
They are pretty good at diagnosing Apple TV. Hope This helps.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Nicola Sanders  wrote:


Hi all,
I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no 
speech at all. I’m fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the 
sounds, but without speech I can’t go into the settings and sort it out. I’ve 
tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no avail 
so far.
Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted assistance, 
or will I have to do a factory reset?
Many thanks in advance,
Nicky
 
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Lost speech on my Apple TV 4th gen

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi all,

I turned my Apple TV on, having not used it for a few weeks, and I have no
speech at all. I'm fairly sure VoiceOver itself is running, judging by the
sounds, but without speech I can't go into the settings and sort it out.
I've tried asking Siri to turn speech off and then turn speech on, but to no
avail so far.

Does anyone have any tips for solving this problem without sighted
assistance, or will I have to do a factory reset?

Many thanks in advance,

Nicky

 

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Bluetooth keyboard problems with Apple TV 4th gen HD

['Gary Robinson' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I  seem to have a strange problem with my Apple TV when using a 
Bluetooth keyboard.


It is the same for both my Logitech K780 and my Apple wireless keyboard 
so my suspicion is that it is the Apple TV that is at fault.


Basically I  can type in letters, numbers symbols and use the escape and 
enter keys but the tab and cursor keys just don't work at all.


Quicknav doesn't work and I can't even tab between fields.

The Apple TV is on the latest software and the problem has been 
happening for a while. I just put up with it and used the horrible 
remote control that comes with the TV but I thought I would see if 
anyone else had come across this problem before I bite the bullet and 
reset the TV back to factory defaults and restart with a clean build.



Any suggestions welcome.


Gary

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Apple tv 4th gen user guide

[Fanus]

Hello list
Has anyone got the user guide in text format?
Regards
Fanus

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Re: turning on voiceOver on apple tv 4th gen?

[MamaPeach]

It has been a while, but I think you can triple tap the Menu button to activate 
VoiceOver on the Apple TV 4th Gen. The menu button will be the top button on 
the left hand side of the remote. The buttons on the remote are
Top left: Menu
Middle Left: Siri
Bottom Left: Play/Pause
Top Right: Home
Then the long button on the right is volume Up/Volume Down
If I provided incorrect information, someone please make any corrections.

From: goshawk on horseback 
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Subject: turning on voiceOver on apple tv 4th gen?

hello all, 
have decided to get an apple tv 4th gen, and would like to know how to get the 
voiceOver going when I plug it in please, thanks. 

Simon 


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turning on voiceOver on apple tv 4th gen?

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hello all, 
have decided to get an apple tv 4th gen, and would like to know how to get the 
voiceOver going when I plug it in please, thanks. 

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Re: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

[Brian Fischler]

I agree as I had the Apple 3rd Gen and bought the 4th Gen, and consider the 
Apple TV 4th Gen the worst investment I have ever made. I believe with the 
Apple TV 3rd Gen that Apple controlled the Apps and made them VO accessible, 
now with the 4th Gen Apple TV the individual developers control their apps and 
most of them are not accessible. Absolutely pathetic the direction of the 4th 
Gen Apple TV is headed.
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> An interesting suggestion and one Apple of course could well afford. It would 
> be nice if something like this could be brought directly to the attention of 
> Tim Cook, but I am doubtful that posting this via social media or in an email 
> to Apple Accessibility will ever make it up the chain. Of course we have to 
> continue to lobby for our needs and hope that the overall commitment Apple 
> has towards accessibility in time results in a net gain and not a net loss. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> M. Taylor
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
> 
> Hello Jim,
> 
> Unfortunately, I can confirm your findings especially with the CBS News app 
> and many, many others.  
> 
> All we can do is provide feedback and make our voices heard on social media 
> and in the App Store.  
> 
> A while ago I suggested to Apple that they develop some kind of an incentive 
> in order to compel developers to make their apps VoiceOver accessible.  For 
> example, if a developer makes its app accessible, then apple would allow it 
> to keep 72% of its revenue instead of 70%. 
> 
> Mark
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Ruby
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
> 
> Hi, is it just me?
> It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more 
> apps harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not 
> accessible at all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it.
> 
> Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and 
> find a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the 
> shows. I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back.
> 
> I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch 
> a lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them.
> 
> So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all 
> using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might 
> be fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, 
> fox, nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider 
> is on the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since 
> mine is not the top few apple shows I'm stuck.
> 
> Maybe it is me?
> 
> Thans for any thoughts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

[Sieghard Weitzel]

An interesting suggestion and one Apple of course could well afford. It would 
be nice if something like this could be brought directly to the attention of 
Tim Cook, but I am doubtful that posting this via social media or in an email 
to Apple Accessibility will ever make it up the chain. Of course we have to 
continue to lobby for our needs and hope that the overall commitment Apple has 
towards accessibility in time results in a net gain and not a net loss. 

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hello Jim,

Unfortunately, I can confirm your findings especially with the CBS News app and 
many, many others.  

All we can do is provide feedback and make our voices heard on social media and 
in the App Store.  

A while ago I suggested to Apple that they develop some kind of an incentive in 
order to compel developers to make their apps VoiceOver accessible.  For 
example, if a developer makes its app accessible, then apple would allow it to 
keep 72% of its revenue instead of 70%. 

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

Hi, is it just me?
It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more apps 
harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not accessible at 
all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it.

Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and find 
a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the shows. 
I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back.

I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch a 
lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them.

So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all 
using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might be 
fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, fox, 
nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider is on 
the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since mine is 
not the top few apple shows I'm stuck.

Maybe it is me?

Thans for any thoughts.





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RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jim,

Unfortunately, I can confirm your findings especially with the CBS News app and 
many, many others.  

All we can do is provide feedback and make our voices heard on social media and 
in the App Store.  

A while ago I suggested to Apple that they develop some kind of an incentive in 
order to compel developers to make their apps VoiceOver accessible.  For 
example, if a developer makes its app accessible, then apple would allow it to 
keep 72% of its revenue instead of 70%. 

Mark

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Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

Hi, is it just me?
It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more apps 
harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not accessible at 
all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it.

Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and find 
a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the shows. 
I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back.

I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch a 
lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them.

So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all 
using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might be 
fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, fox, 
nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider is on 
the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since mine is 
not the top few apple shows I'm stuck.

Maybe it is me?

Thans for any thoughts.





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RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I was very disappointed with many of the apps I have tried lately. I purchased 
an Apple TV 4 even though my third gen worked fine because I wanted access to 
the thousands of channels instead of the 20 or 30 that were available on the 
third gen. Ok apps as they call them not channels. Anyway, it seems that every 
time I find an app I really want such as Dove which allegedly has hundreds of 
hours of family programming. It is not the least bit accessible. As in nothing 
was labeled to work with voiceover. 
I have become accustomed to not being able to play games since losing my vision 
several years ago and not playing graphically intensive games on a PlayStation 
4 or other console device. But when I try a news app or a network app and it 
simply does not allow any voiceover control at all I get very frustrated.


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Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

Hi, is it just me?
It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more apps 
harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not accessible at 
all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it.

Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and find 
a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the shows. 
I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back.

I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch a 
lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them.

So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all 
using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might be 
fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, fox, 
nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider is on 
the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since mine is 
not the top few apple shows I'm stuck.

Maybe it is me?

Thans for any thoughts.





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apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill

[Jim Ruby]

Hi, is it just me?
It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more
apps harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not
accessible at all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of
it.

Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and
find a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read
the shows. I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back.

I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch
a lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them.

So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all
using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might
be fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs,
fox, nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable
provider is on the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of
them since mine is not the top few apple shows I'm stuck.

Maybe it is me?

Thans for any thoughts.





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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Wayne,

And as far as recording is concerned that is a no. Most content is on demand so 
recording doesn't really enter the equasion.


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Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen questions

It does, thanks. Do I need to have an antenna to get these channels? I
don't currently have either Cable or broadcast TV.

Wayne

On 4/25/16, Merv Keck <blind5spar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They are called apps but they can either be considered channels or apps
> depending on how you look at it. For example currently there are about 900
> available apps for the Apple TV fourth Generation ranging from Netflix and
> Hulu to games and podcast applications, and even a speedtest application, to
> common channel apps such as CVS and freeform formerly ABC Family. Some of
> these channel apps require that you have the same channel on your cable
> subscription such as Disney channels. Others do not. Some will allow you
> limited access to programing if you do not have the corresponding channel on
> your cable subscription but will not allow you to have access to the full
> amount of programing options. ESPN is a good example of that. You get a few
> clips and a lot of annoying ads unless you validate your cable provider on
> the Apple TV. Once that is done you have access to at least 7 channels of
> ESPN plus bonus material free for the price of downloading the channel from
> the app store for free.
> Hope that helps'
> Merv
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:54 PM
> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen questions
>
> All,
> I am looking at getting the 4th generation Apple TV. I've got a couple of
> questions. First of all, I know that it is not a "tv", but I have heard
> conflicting reports about Apple TV having channels, like some Cable
> channels, where one can watch TV shows. Is this true, or are shows mainly
> watched using apps that one downloads onto the Apple TV?
> Would I need an antenna or Cable subscription in order to watch TV shows?
> The other big thing is can I record shows and watch them later on the Apple
> TV, like one could do with some early services like Tivo?
>
> Sincerely,
> Wayne
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[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

No - everything's done over wifi or Ethernet.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 4/25/16, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It does, thanks. Do I need to have an antenna to get these channels? I
> don't currently have either Cable or broadcast TV.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 4/25/16, Merv Keck <blind5spar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> They are called apps but they can either be considered channels or apps
>> depending on how you look at it. For example currently there are about
>> 900
>> available apps for the Apple TV fourth Generation ranging from Netflix
>> and
>> Hulu to games and podcast applications, and even a speedtest application,
>> to
>> common channel apps such as CVS and freeform formerly ABC Family. Some of
>> these channel apps require that you have the same channel on your cable
>> subscription such as Disney channels. Others do not. Some will allow you
>> limited access to programing if you do not have the corresponding channel
>> on
>> your cable subscription but will not allow you to have access to the full
>> amount of programing options. ESPN is a good example of that. You get a
>> few
>> clips and a lot of annoying ads unless you validate your cable provider
>> on
>> the Apple TV. Once that is done you have access to at least 7 channels of
>> ESPN plus bonus material free for the price of downloading the channel
>> from
>> the app store for free.
>> Hope that helps'
>> Merv
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:54 PM
>> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen questions
>>
>> All,
>> I am looking at getting the 4th generation Apple TV. I've got a couple of
>> questions. First of all, I know that it is not a "tv", but I have heard
>> conflicting reports about Apple TV having channels, like some Cable
>> channels, where one can watch TV shows. Is this true, or are shows mainly
>> watched using apps that one downloads onto the Apple TV?
>> Would I need an antenna or Cable subscription in order to watch TV shows?
>> The other big thing is can I record shows and watch them later on the
>> Apple
>> TV, like one could do with some early services like Tivo?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Wayne
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen questions

[Wayne Merritt]

It does, thanks. Do I need to have an antenna to get these channels? I
don't currently have either Cable or broadcast TV.

Wayne

On 4/25/16, Merv Keck <blind5spar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They are called apps but they can either be considered channels or apps
> depending on how you look at it. For example currently there are about 900
> available apps for the Apple TV fourth Generation ranging from Netflix and
> Hulu to games and podcast applications, and even a speedtest application, to
> common channel apps such as CVS and freeform formerly ABC Family. Some of
> these channel apps require that you have the same channel on your cable
> subscription such as Disney channels. Others do not. Some will allow you
> limited access to programing if you do not have the corresponding channel on
> your cable subscription but will not allow you to have access to the full
> amount of programing options. ESPN is a good example of that. You get a few
> clips and a lot of annoying ads unless you validate your cable provider on
> the Apple TV. Once that is done you have access to at least 7 channels of
> ESPN plus bonus material free for the price of downloading the channel from
> the app store for free.
> Hope that helps'
> Merv
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:54 PM
> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen questions
>
> All,
> I am looking at getting the 4th generation Apple TV. I've got a couple of
> questions. First of all, I know that it is not a "tv", but I have heard
> conflicting reports about Apple TV having channels, like some Cable
> channels, where one can watch TV shows. Is this true, or are shows mainly
> watched using apps that one downloads onto the Apple TV?
> Would I need an antenna or Cable subscription in order to watch TV shows?
> The other big thing is can I record shows and watch them later on the Apple
> TV, like one could do with some early services like Tivo?
>
> Sincerely,
> Wayne
>
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They are called apps but they can either be considered channels or apps 
depending on how you look at it. For example currently there are about 900 
available apps for the Apple TV fourth Generation ranging from Netflix and Hulu 
to games and podcast applications, and even a speedtest application, to common 
channel apps such as CVS and freeform formerly ABC Family. Some of these 
channel apps require that you have the same channel on your cable subscription 
such as Disney channels. Others do not. Some will allow you limited access to 
programing if you do not have the corresponding channel on your cable 
subscription but will not allow you to have access to the full amount of 
programing options. ESPN is a good example of that. You get a few clips and a 
lot of annoying ads unless you validate your cable provider on the Apple TV. 
Once that is done you have access to at least 7 channels of ESPN plus bonus 
material free for the price of downloading the channel from the app store for 
free.
Hope that helps'
Merv


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:54 PM
To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen questions

All,
I am looking at getting the 4th generation Apple TV. I've got a couple of 
questions. First of all, I know that it is not a "tv", but I have heard 
conflicting reports about Apple TV having channels, like some Cable channels, 
where one can watch TV shows. Is this true, or are shows mainly watched using 
apps that one downloads onto the Apple TV?
Would I need an antenna or Cable subscription in order to watch TV shows? The 
other big thing is can I record shows and watch them later on the Apple TV, 
like one could do with some early services like Tivo?

Sincerely,
Wayne

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Apple TV 4th Gen questions

[Wayne Merritt]

All,
I am looking at getting the 4th generation Apple TV. I've got a couple
of questions. First of all, I know that it is not a "tv", but I have
heard conflicting reports about Apple TV having channels, like some
Cable channels, where one can watch TV shows. Is this true, or are
shows mainly watched using apps that one downloads onto the Apple TV?
Would I need an antenna or Cable subscription in order to watch TV
shows? The other big thing is can I record shows and watch them later
on the Apple TV, like one could do with some early services like Tivo?

Sincerely,
Wayne

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apple tv 4th gen and netflix?

[Melissa Tucker]

has the technical problems with netflix been fixed yet for latest apple tv 
users?

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Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

[Lisa Belville]

The last version I have is 4.50 released on August 26.  This is the one 
where they claimed to fix VO issues.  The latest one in the app store is 
4.71 and was released on December 16.  I stopped upgrading after the 4.50 
update because I really couldn't tell any difference in VO functionality. 
Nothing is as good as it was back in 2014.



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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen


I haven't even looked, but what version is Hulu up to on IOS? I am using
version 4.6.5 and because the VoiceOver accessibility is so great, I won't
update that particular app until I have no other choice. I am running this
version on IOS 9.2

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

I stand corrected. The iPhone app is excruciatingly painful to navigate with
the latest update. It was fine a few updates ago. Ugh. At least it works on
the apple TV now, so I don’t have to use the phone any more.

On Dec 20, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
wrote:


Hmm, have you started using Hulu recently?  I originally signed up in 2014 
and it was much easier to use back then.  Now I have trouble keeping VO 
focused on anything especially in the shows you watch tab.  I resorted to 
just typing in shows I watch into the search field, but this is a bit 
cumbersome.



Lisa Belville
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen


I don’t find it difficult to navigate on the iPhone at all.

On Dec 20, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
wrote:


Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.


Lisa

Lisa Belville
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Subject: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen


Update for Hulu on Apple TV 4th gen has fixed accessibility with 
VoiceOver.

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[Daniel Miller]

I think it’s on 4.7.1 now.

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, MamaPeach <mamapeac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I haven't even looked, but what version is Hulu up to on IOS? I am using 
> version 4.6.5 and because the VoiceOver accessibility is so great, I won't 
> update that particular app until I have no other choice. I am running this 
> version on IOS 9.2
> 
> -Original Message- From: Daniel Miller
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen
> 
> I stand corrected. The iPhone app is excruciatingly painful to navigate with 
> the latest update. It was fine a few updates ago. Ugh. At least it works on 
> the apple TV now, so I don’t have to use the phone any more.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, have you started using Hulu recently?  I originally signed up in 2014 
>> and it was much easier to use back then.  Now I have trouble keeping VO 
>> focused on anything especially in the shows you watch tab.  I resorted to 
>> just typing in shows I watch into the search field, but this is a bit 
>> cumbersome.
>> 
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
>> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t find it difficult to navigate on the iPhone at all.
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
>>> account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.
>>> 
>>> Lisa
>>> 
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>> Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
>>> - Original Message - From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeac...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 12:48 PM
>>> Subject: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Update for Hulu on Apple TV 4th gen has fixed accessibility with VoiceOver.
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Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

[MamaPeach]

I haven't even looked, but what version is Hulu up to on IOS? I am using 
version 4.6.5 and because the VoiceOver accessibility is so great, I won't 
update that particular app until I have no other choice. I am running this 
version on IOS 9.2


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 4:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

I stand corrected. The iPhone app is excruciatingly painful to navigate with 
the latest update. It was fine a few updates ago. Ugh. At least it works on 
the apple TV now, so I don’t have to use the phone any more.


On Dec 20, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
wrote:


Hmm, have you started using Hulu recently?  I originally signed up in 2014 
and it was much easier to use back then.  Now I have trouble keeping VO 
focused on anything especially in the shows you watch tab.  I resorted to 
just typing in shows I watch into the search field, but this is a bit 
cumbersome.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
- Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen


I don’t find it difficult to navigate on the iPhone at all.

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Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.


Lisa

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Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

[Lisa Belville]

Hmm, have you started using Hulu recently?  I originally signed up in 2014 
and it was much easier to use back then.  Now I have trouble keeping VO 
focused on anything especially in the shows you watch tab.  I resorted to 
just typing in shows I watch into the search field, but this is a bit 
cumbersome.



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missktlab1...@frontier.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen


I don’t find it difficult to navigate on the iPhone at all.

On Dec 20, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
wrote:


Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.


Lisa

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Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

[Daniel Miller]

I stand corrected. The iPhone app is excruciatingly painful to navigate with 
the latest update. It was fine a few updates ago. Ugh. At least it works on the 
apple TV now, so I don’t have to use the phone any more.

> On Dec 20, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmm, have you started using Hulu recently?  I originally signed up in 2014 
> and it was much easier to use back then.  Now I have trouble keeping VO 
> focused on anything especially in the shows you watch tab.  I resorted to 
> just typing in shows I watch into the search field, but this is a bit 
> cumbersome.
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen
> 
> 
> I don’t find it difficult to navigate on the iPhone at all.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
>> account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.
>> 
>> Lisa
>> 
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>> Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
>> - Original Message ----- From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeac...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 12:48 PM
>> Subject: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen
>> 
>> 
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Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

[Lisa Belville]

Okay, well, thanks for verifying that it is practically unusable with the 
current update.


Lisa

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- Original Message - 
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen


I stand corrected. The iPhone app is excruciatingly painful to navigate with 
the latest update. It was fine a few updates ago. Ugh. At least it works on 
the apple TV now, so I don’t have to use the phone any more.


On Dec 20, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
wrote:


Hmm, have you started using Hulu recently?  I originally signed up in 2014 
and it was much easier to use back then.  Now I have trouble keeping VO 
focused on anything especially in the shows you watch tab.  I resorted to 
just typing in shows I watch into the search field, but this is a bit 
cumbersome.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
- Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen


I don’t find it difficult to navigate on the iPhone at all.

On Dec 20, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> 
wrote:


Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.


Lisa

Lisa Belville
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Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

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Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

[Lisa Belville]

Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.


Lisa

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Re: Hulu Update For Apple TV 4th Gen

[Daniel Miller]

I don’t find it difficult to navigate on the iPhone at all.

> On Dec 20, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if this update also fixes the iPhone app?  I closed my 
> account due to how complicated it was to navigate with VO.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
> - Original Message - From: "MamaPeach" <mamapeac...@gmail.com>
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

[christopher hallsworth]

`Third generation yes, providing you accept the limitations all but gone in the 
fourth generation which has received mixed reviews but believe it will get 
better over time.
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

[Kerri G]

I love mine save for the fat that our CBC news is limited. For example, I 
cannot obtain local news coverage with it as I can on CBC news on the iPad.
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> I don't regret buying mine. I love it and can't wait to see what else will be 
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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen

[Jim Ruby]

Yes, at least I like mine. There is some little problems in some apps, but they 
are getting fixed as time goes on.


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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

[MamaPeach]

I don't regret buying mine. I love it and can't wait to see what else will 
be available in the app store.


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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen

[Tom Rash]

Same here.   

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I don't regret buying mine. I love it and can't wait to see what else will
be available in the app store.

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Apple TV 4th Gen

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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen

[Larry Lumpkin]

It has gotten mixed reviews here but I think it is well worth buying even 
though we know it has some growing to do.  We're going to buy it--hopefully for 
Christmas.


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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen

[Ann Smith]

I have a four week old Apple TV fourth generation. It is very much worth money. 
If you don't do a lot of gaming, blue 32 GB is your best bet that's what I have.
I can't give the Mac Mall I know if I praises about their customer service and 
how quickly they do shipping and handling. I wore this device on November 10, 
and guess what showed up the next day? They ship out of Memphis by the way.
You can order online or order by phone like I did. I'd be glad to give out the 
phone number if you need it. As far as shipping and handling, they only charge 
me $10.59. That's a just about unheard of for overnight shipping.
Unless you're high partial, you will need a very minimum of cited assistance. 
My television is 720 P, and the device is 1080 P. So, you'll need to go into 
the Apple TV settings and calibrate your
TV to your TV's correct number of pixels. It's pretty easy to do. You would 
need site to be able to see the little apple and then you get the OK sign. Hope 
I can help somebody sorry about the typos

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> It has gotten mixed reviews here but I think it is well worth buying even 
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Daniel Miller]

Hulu is working on the issue. Be patient. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> hi,
>  
> I just had a question about accessability.  didn't apple create a code enjen 
> or code script or bundle or something that  m makes building accessability in 
> fairly simple?  Could we just point his  out to developers? I remember 
> listening to a podcast from cool blind tek about apple accessability and a 
> script and how easy it was to make something inaccessable accessable.  
>  
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am not a developer.
> Billy Maynard
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
> 
> Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, 
> which of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have 
> been badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to 
> bode well. But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to 
>> be made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have 
>> done so or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means 
>> I love the new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. 
>> When everything is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of 
>> which will be accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will 
>> awareness about accessibility.
>> But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
>> SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
>> movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.
>> I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
>> unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
>> since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this,
>>   but playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one 
>> could also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very 
>> much almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the 
>> platform (TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to 
>> come up with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major 
>> networks and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly 
>> willing to cut them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they 
>> come up with. I guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” 
>> perspective rather than the “glass half empty” perspective.
>> As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever 
>> organisations represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby 
>> for accessibility and make developers aware of the fact that their app may 
>> not be accessible. In the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one 
>> can always cancel their subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make 
>> sure to explain when you call in to cancel that they loose y our business 
>> because of a lack of accessibility.
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
>> I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model 
>> of access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
>> accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid 
>>  of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be 
>> accessible. Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to 
>> blow us off. Very sad.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
>> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is 
>> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Billy Maynard]

hi, 

I just had a question about accessability.  didn't apple create a code enjen or 
code script or bundle or something that  m makes building accessability in 
fairly simple?  Could we just point his  out to developers? I remember 
listening to a podcast from cool blind tek about apple accessability and a 
script and how easy it was to make something inaccessable accessable.   

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am not a developer. 
Billy Maynard
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  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu


  Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, 
which of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have been 
badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to bode well. 
But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


Hi Mary,



Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to 
be made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have done 
so or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means I love 
the new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When 
everything is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which 
will be accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will 
awareness about accessibility.

But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.

I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
(TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to cut 
them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. I 
guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than the 
“glass half empty” perspective.

As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever 
organisations represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for 
accessibility and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be 
accessible. In the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can 
always cancel their subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure 
to explain when you call in to cancel that they loose y our business because of 
a lack of accessibility.





Best regards,

Sieghard



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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu



I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model 
of access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary


Sent from my iPad


On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is it 
a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.




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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Mary Otten]

Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, which 
of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have been 
badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to bode well. 
But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
>  
> Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to 
> be made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have 
> done so or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means 
> I love the new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When 
> everything is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which 
> will be accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will 
> awareness about accessibility.
> But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
> SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
> movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.
> I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
> unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
> since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
> playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
> also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
> almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
> (TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
> with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
> and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to 
> cut them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. 
> I guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than 
> the “glass half empty” perspective.
> As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever 
> organisations represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for 
> accessibility and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be 
> accessible. In the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can 
> always cancel their subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure 
> to explain when you call in to cancel that they loose y our business because 
> of a lack of accessibility.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
>  
> I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
> access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
> accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
> of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be 
> accessible. Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to 
> blow us off. Very sad.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is 
> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
>  
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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Do you know if they’re working on audio description, too?

I sent them a note, and they said something like, “It’s very complicated.” When 
I replied to that that they may be able to have a button adjacent to the Play 
episode button labeled as Play audio described episode  which would be dimmed 
if an AD episode was not available, or to have a partitioned website from the 
home screen listing audio described content, they replied they’d pass those 
ideas along to the engineers.

Keith
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

Hulu is working on the issue. Be patient.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 17, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Billy Maynard 
<biljm...@comcast.net<mailto:biljm...@comcast.net>> wrote:
hi,

I just had a question about accessability.  didn't apple create a code enjen or 
code script or bundle or something that  m makes building accessability in 
fairly simple?  Could we just point his  out to developers? I remember 
listening to a podcast from cool blind tek about apple accessability and a 
script and how easy it was to make something inaccessable accessable.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am not a developer.
Billy Maynard
- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, which 
of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have been 
badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to bode well. 
But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Mary,
Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to be 
made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have done so 
or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means I love the 
new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When everything 
is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which will be 
accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will awareness about 
accessibility.
But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.
I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
(TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to cut 
them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. I 
guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than the 
“glass half empty” perspective.
As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever organisations 
represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for accessibility 
and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be accessible. In 
the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can always cancel their 
subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure to explain when you 
call in to cancel that they loose y our business because of a lack of 
accessibility.
Best regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash 
<dadinthed...@verizon.net<mailto:dadinthed...@verizon.net>> wrote:
Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great

Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Mary Otten]

I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary


Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is 
> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
> 
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[MamaPeach]

It is not working on my Apple TV 4th gen either.

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Smith

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

Good morning, I've had nothing but trouble with Hulu plus since 2013. Which 
is really unfortunate, because I am like two or three seasons behind on my 
law and order SV you frown


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On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose <b...@benmr.com> wrote:

Hi,

It's Hulu unfortunately.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/16/15, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net> wrote:
Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu,
Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or
is
it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.


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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Tom Rash]

Hulu with Voice Over always worked fine with Apple TV 3.  Hopefully they'll
get it together soon, or I'll discontinue the Hulu service

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Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

Good morning, I've had nothing but trouble with Hulu plus since 2013. Which
is really unfortunate, because I am like two or three seasons behind on my
law and order SV you frown

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> 
> It's Hulu unfortunately.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
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>> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into 
>> Hulu, Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are 
>> experiencing?  Or is
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Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Tom Rash]

Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu,
Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

It's Hulu unfortunately.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/16/15, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu,
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Ann Smith]

Good morning, I've had nothing but trouble with Hulu plus since 2013. Which is 
really unfortunate, because I am like two or three seasons behind on my law and 
order SV you frown

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose <b...@benmr.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> It's Hulu unfortunately.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 11/16/15, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu,
>> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or
>> is
>> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

 

Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to be 
made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have done so 
or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means I love the 
new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When everything 
is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which will be 
accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will awareness about 
accessibility.

But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.

I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
(TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to cut 
them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. I 
guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than the 
“glass half empty” perspective.

As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever organisations 
represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for accessibility 
and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be accessible. In 
the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can always cancel their 
subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure to explain when you 
call in to cancel that they loose y our business because of a lack of 
accessibility.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

 

I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary


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On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash <dadinthed...@verizon.net 
<mailto:dadinthed...@verizon.net> > wrote:

Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, Voice 
over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is it a 
Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.

 

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