RE: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,

Do you know if they’re working on audio description, too?

I sent them a note, and they said something like, “It’s very complicated.” When 
I replied to that that they may be able to have a button adjacent to the Play 
episode button labeled as Play audio described episode  which would be dimmed 
if an AD episode was not available, or to have a partitioned website from the 
home screen listing audio described content, they replied they’d pass those 
ideas along to the engineers.

Keith
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Hulu is working on the issue. Be patient.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 17, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Billy Maynard 
mailto:biljm...@comcast.net>> wrote:
hi,

I just had a question about accessability.  didn't apple create a code enjen or 
code script or bundle or something that  m makes building accessability in 
fairly simple?  Could we just point his  out to developers? I remember 
listening to a podcast from cool blind tek about apple accessability and a 
script and how easy it was to make something inaccessable accessable.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am not a developer.
Billy Maynard
- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, which 
of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have been 
badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to bode well. 
But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Mary,
Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to be 
made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have done so 
or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means I love the 
new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When everything 
is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which will be 
accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will awareness about 
accessibility.
But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.
I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
(TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to cut 
them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. I 
guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than the 
“glass half empty” perspective.
As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever organisations 
represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for accessibility 
and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be accessible. In 
the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can always cancel their 
subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure to explain when you 
call in to cancel that they loose y our business because of a lack of 
accessibility.
Best regards,
Sieghard
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary

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On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash 
mailto:dadinthed...@verizon.net>> wrote:
Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, Voice 
over does not work.  Is this a probelm

Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-17 Thread Daniel Miller
Hulu is working on the issue. Be patient. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Billy Maynard  wrote:
> 
> hi,
>  
> I just had a question about accessability.  didn't apple create a code enjen 
> or code script or bundle or something that  m makes building accessability in 
> fairly simple?  Could we just point his  out to developers? I remember 
> listening to a podcast from cool blind tek about apple accessability and a 
> script and how easy it was to make something inaccessable accessable.  
>  
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am not a developer.
> Billy Maynard
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
> 
> Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, 
> which of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have 
> been badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to 
> bode well. But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to 
>> be made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have 
>> done so or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means 
>> I love the new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. 
>> When everything is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of 
>> which will be accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will 
>> awareness about accessibility.
>> But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
>> SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
>> movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.
>> I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
>> unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
>> since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this,
>>   but playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one 
>> could also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very 
>> much almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the 
>> platform (TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to 
>> come up with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major 
>> networks and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly 
>> willing to cut them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they 
>> come up with. I guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” 
>> perspective rather than the “glass half empty” perspective.
>> As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever 
>> organisations represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby 
>> for accessibility and make developers aware of the fact that their app may 
>> not be accessible. In the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one 
>> can always cancel their subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make 
>> sure to explain when you call in to cancel that they loose y our business 
>> because of a lack of accessibility.
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
>> I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model 
>> of access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
>> accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid 
>>  of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be 
>> accessible. Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to 
>> blow us off. Very sad.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> 
>> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
>> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is 
>> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-17 Thread Billy Maynard
hi, 

I just had a question about accessability.  didn't apple create a code enjen or 
code script or bundle or something that  m makes building accessability in 
fairly simple?  Could we just point his  out to developers? I remember 
listening to a podcast from cool blind tek about apple accessability and a 
script and how easy it was to make something inaccessable accessable.   

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am not a developer. 
Billy Maynard
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu


  Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, 
which of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have been 
badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to bode well. 
But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Mary,



Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to 
be made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have done 
so or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means I love 
the new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When 
everything is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which 
will be accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will 
awareness about accessibility.

But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.

I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
(TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to cut 
them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. I 
guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than the 
“glass half empty” perspective.

As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever 
organisations represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for 
accessibility and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be 
accessible. In the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can 
always cancel their subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure 
to explain when you call in to cancel that they loose y our business because of 
a lack of accessibility.





Best regards,

Sieghard



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Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu



I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model 
of access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary


Sent from my iPad


On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:

  Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is it 
a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.




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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-17 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, which 
of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have been 
badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to bode well. 
But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
>  
> Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to 
> be made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have 
> done so or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means 
> I love the new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When 
> everything is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which 
> will be accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will 
> awareness about accessibility.
> But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
> SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
> movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.
> I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
> unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
> since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
> playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
> also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
> almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
> (TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
> with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
> and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to 
> cut them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. 
> I guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than 
> the “glass half empty” perspective.
> As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever 
> organisations represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for 
> accessibility and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be 
> accessible. In the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can 
> always cancel their subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure 
> to explain when you call in to cancel that they loose y our business because 
> of a lack of accessibility.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu
>  
> I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
> access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
> accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
> of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be 
> accessible. Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to 
> blow us off. Very sad.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is 
> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
>  
> 
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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Mary,

 

Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to be 
made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have done so 
or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means I love the 
new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When everything 
is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which will be 
accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will awareness about 
accessibility.

But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.

I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
(TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to cut 
them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. I 
guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than the 
“glass half empty” perspective.

As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever organisations 
represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for accessibility 
and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be accessible. In 
the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can always cancel their 
subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure to explain when you 
call in to cancel that they loose y our business because of a lack of 
accessibility.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

 

I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary


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Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, Voice 
over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is it a 
Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.

 

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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-16 Thread Mary Otten
I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model of 
access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is 
> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
> 
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RE: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-16 Thread Tom Rash
Hulu with Voice Over always worked fine with Apple TV 3.  Hopefully they'll
get it together soon, or I'll discontinue the Hulu service

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Of Ann Smith
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Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

Good morning, I've had nothing but trouble with Hulu plus since 2013. Which
is really unfortunate, because I am like two or three seasons behind on my
law and order SV you frown

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It's Hulu unfortunately.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 11/16/15, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into 
>> Hulu, Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are 
>> experiencing?  Or is
>> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-16 Thread MamaPeach

It is not working on my Apple TV 4th gen either.

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From: Ann Smith

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Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

Good morning, I've had nothing but trouble with Hulu plus since 2013. Which 
is really unfortunate, because I am like two or three seasons behind on my 
law and order SV you frown


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On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

Hi,

It's Hulu unfortunately.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 11/16/15, Tom Rash  wrote:
Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu,
Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or
is
it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.


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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-16 Thread Ann Smith
Good morning, I've had nothing but trouble with Hulu plus since 2013. Which is 
really unfortunate, because I am like two or three seasons behind on my law and 
order SV you frown

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> On Nov 16, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> It's Hulu unfortunately.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
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>> On 11/16/15, Tom Rash  wrote:
>> Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu,
>> Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or
>> is
>> it a Hulu update problem? or Apple?Thanks.
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Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-16 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

It's Hulu unfortunately.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/16/15, Tom Rash  wrote:
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Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu

2015-11-16 Thread Tom Rash
Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu,
Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is
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