Re: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

2017-12-23 Thread lenron brown
When your battery gets to that point there should be some sort of
notification. So that you would know hey it might be a good time to
replace that battery because of speed issues. Not oh nothing just my
phone slows down and I keep on trying to use the thing until I get
annoyed and upgrade. Apple is out for apple this is fact.

On 12/21/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> That will never happen and probably is not possible given how much stuff is
> packed into such a relatively small device which people by now also expect
> to be for the most part waterproof. In any case, I always hated it when I
> had the old phpones and the thing dropped and next thing battery cover,
> battery and phone went flying all in differewnt directions. If $79 is all
> Apple charges for a battery replacement then I consider to be a pretty good
> deal, I remember back in the days when one could buy an additional battery
> for their cell phone that I'd spend $40 or $50 for just the battery.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery
> issues - CNET
>
> One reason among others why they should make the battery user replaceable.
> Original message:
>> Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues
>
>> The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected
>> shutdowns -- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
>> December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST
>
>> Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower
>> but also prevents unexpected shutdowns.
>> CNET
>
>> If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy.
>> Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes
>> your phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help
>> offset problems with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As
>> batteries get older, they don't hold their charges as well as newer
>> batteries, and have even worse problems when the charge is lower or the
>> temperature is colder.
>
>> The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or
>> might unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S
>> last year. The processors in those devices wanted to hit faster
>> speeds, but the batteries couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to
>> simply switch themselves off.
>
>> To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS
>> 10.2.1, included better power management capabilities. It will slow
>> down your device to prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases
>> of cold temperature, a low battery charge or very old batteries.
>
>> Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S
>> Plus and SE. This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7
>> and 7 Plus. It will be applied to other Apple devices in the future.
>> Apple said in a statement:
>> "Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which
>> includes overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices.
>> Lithium-ion batteries become less capable of supplying peak current
>> demands when in cold conditions, have a low battery charge or as they
>> age over time, which can result in the device unexpectedly shutting
>> down to protect its electronic components.
>
>> Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE
>> to smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the
>> device from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've
>> now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add
>> support for other products in the future."
>
>> The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this
>> week from Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor
>> benchmarking software. John Poole, founder of the organization, said
>> in a blog post that as iPhone batteries get older and lose capacity,
>> their processors slow down, decreasing performance. Poole explained
>> that users expect their phones to perform the same regardless of how
>> old the battery is, but his tests indicated that wasn't the case.
>
>> iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow
>> down when new models are released. Some even believe that it's an
>> effort by Apple (and other tech companies) to purposely slow down or
>> otherwise 

RE: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

2017-12-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That will never happen and probably is not possible given how much stuff is 
packed into such a relatively small device which people by now also expect to 
be for the most part waterproof. In any case, I always hated it when I had the 
old phpones and the thing dropped and next thing battery cover, battery and 
phone went flying all in differewnt directions. If $79 is all Apple charges for 
a battery replacement then I consider to be a pretty good deal, I remember back 
in the days when one could buy an additional battery for their cell phone that 
I'd spend $40 or $50 for just the battery.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - 
CNET

One reason among others why they should make the battery user replaceable.
Original message:
> Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues

> The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected 
> shutdowns -- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
> December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST

> Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower 
> but also prevents unexpected shutdowns.
> CNET

> If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy.
> Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes 
> your phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help 
> offset problems with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As 
> batteries get older, they don't hold their charges as well as newer 
> batteries, and have even worse problems when the charge is lower or the 
> temperature is colder.

> The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or 
> might unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S 
> last year. The processors in those devices wanted to hit faster 
> speeds, but the batteries couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to simply 
> switch themselves off.

> To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 
> 10.2.1, included better power management capabilities. It will slow 
> down your device to prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases 
> of cold temperature, a low battery charge or very old batteries.

> Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S 
> Plus and SE. This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 
> and 7 Plus. It will be applied to other Apple devices in the future.
> Apple said in a statement:
> "Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which 
> includes overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. 
> Lithium-ion batteries become less capable of supplying peak current 
> demands when in cold conditions, have a low battery charge or as they 
> age over time, which can result in the device unexpectedly shutting 
> down to protect its electronic components.

> Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE 
> to smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the 
> device from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've 
> now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add 
> support for other products in the future."

> The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this 
> week from Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor 
> benchmarking software. John Poole, founder of the organization, said 
> in a blog post that as iPhone batteries get older and lose capacity, 
> their processors slow down, decreasing performance. Poole explained 
> that users expect their phones to perform the same regardless of how 
> old the battery is, but his tests indicated that wasn't the case.

> iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow 
> down when new models are released. Some even believe that it's an 
> effort by Apple (and other tech companies) to purposely slow down or 
> otherwise hamper the performance of their products to get users to buy 
> new models. Apple has long denied this claim.

> For some people, the solution to a slower, older iPhone may be 
> updating its battery instead of purchasing a brand new device. Apple 
> charges $79 to replace the battery of an iPhone that's no longer covered by a 
> warranty.

> Original Article at:
> https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-6-6s-7-ios-slow-downs-older-iph
> ones-l ithium-ion-batteries/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b

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Re: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

2017-12-21 Thread Russ Kiehne
Do you happen to know if Apple does the same thing with the ipads and ipod 
touch?


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Arrigo

Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery 
issues - CNET


One reason among others why they should make the battery user replaceable.
Original message:

Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues



The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected
shutdowns -- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST



Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower but
also prevents unexpected shutdowns.
CNET



If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy.
Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes 
your

phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help offset
problems with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As batteries 
get

older, they don't hold their charges as well as newer batteries, and have
even worse problems when the charge is lower or the temperature is colder.



The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or might
unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S last year. 
The

processors in those devices wanted to hit faster speeds, but the batteries
couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to simply switch themselves off.


To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 
10.2.1,
included better power management capabilities. It will slow down your 
device

to prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases of cold temperature, a
low battery charge or very old batteries.


Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus 
and
SE. This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. 
It

will be applied to other Apple devices in the future.
Apple said in a statement:
"Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes
overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion
batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in 
cold

conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can
result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic
components.



Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to
smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device
from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now 
extended

that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other
products in the future."



The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this week
from Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor benchmarking
software. John Poole, founder of the organization, said in a blog post 
that
as iPhone batteries get older and lose capacity, their processors slow 
down,

decreasing performance. Poole explained that users expect their phones to
perform the same regardless of how old the battery is, but his tests
indicated that wasn't the case.



iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow down
when new models are released. Some even believe that it's an effort by 
Apple

(and other tech companies) to purposely slow down or otherwise hamper the
performance of their products to get users to buy new models. Apple has 
long

denied this claim.


For some people, the solution to a slower, older iPhone may be updating 
its

battery instead of purchasing a brand new device. Apple charges $79 to
replace the battery of an iPhone that's no longer covered by a warranty.



Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-6-6s-7-ios-slow-downs-older-iphones-l
ithium-ion-batteries/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b



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Re: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

2017-12-21 Thread Mike Arrigo

One reason among others why they should make the battery user replaceable.
Original message:

Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues



The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected
shutdowns -- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST



Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower but
also prevents unexpected shutdowns.
CNET



If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy.
Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes your
phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help offset
problems with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As batteries get
older, they don't hold their charges as well as newer batteries, and have
even worse problems when the charge is lower or the temperature is colder.



The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or might
unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S last year. The
processors in those devices wanted to hit faster speeds, but the batteries
couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to simply switch themselves off.



To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 10.2.1,
included better power management capabilities. It will slow down your device
to prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases of cold temperature, a
low battery charge or very old batteries.



Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus and
SE. This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. It
will be applied to other Apple devices in the future.
Apple said in a statement:
"Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes
overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion
batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in cold
conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can
result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic
components.



Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to
smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device
from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended
that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other
products in the future."



The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this week
from Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor benchmarking
software. John Poole, founder of the organization, said in a blog post that
as iPhone batteries get older and lose capacity, their processors slow down,
decreasing performance. Poole explained that users expect their phones to
perform the same regardless of how old the battery is, but his tests
indicated that wasn't the case.



iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow down
when new models are released. Some even believe that it's an effort by Apple
(and other tech companies) to purposely slow down or otherwise hamper the
performance of their products to get users to buy new models. Apple has long
denied this claim.



For some people, the solution to a slower, older iPhone may be updating its
battery instead of purchasing a brand new device. Apple charges $79 to
replace the battery of an iPhone that's no longer covered by a warranty.



Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-6-6s-7-ios-slow-downs-older-iphones-l
ithium-ion-batteries/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b



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2017-12-20 Thread M. Taylor
Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues

The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected
shutdowns -- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST
 
Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower but
also prevents unexpected shutdowns. 
CNET 

If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy. 
Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes your
phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help offset
problems with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As batteries get
older, they don't hold their charges as well as newer batteries, and have
even worse problems when the charge is lower or the temperature is colder. 

The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or might
unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S last year. The
processors in those devices wanted to hit faster speeds, but the batteries
couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to simply switch themselves off.

To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 10.2.1,
included better power management capabilities. It will slow down your device
to prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases of cold temperature, a
low battery charge or very old batteries. 

Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus and
SE. This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. It
will be applied to other Apple devices in the future. 
Apple said in a statement:
"Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes
overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion
batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in cold
conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can
result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic
components. 

Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to
smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device
from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended
that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other
products in the future."

The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this week
from Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor benchmarking
software. John Poole, founder of the organization, said in a blog post that
as iPhone batteries get older and lose capacity, their processors slow down,
decreasing performance. Poole explained that users expect their phones to
perform the same regardless of how old the battery is, but his tests
indicated that wasn't the case. 

iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow down
when new models are released. Some even believe that it's an effort by Apple
(and other tech companies) to purposely slow down or otherwise hamper the
performance of their products to get users to buy new models. Apple has long
denied this claim. 

For some people, the solution to a slower, older iPhone may be updating its
battery instead of purchasing a brand new device. Apple charges $79 to
replace the battery of an iPhone that's no longer covered by a warranty. 

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-6-6s-7-ios-slow-downs-older-iphones-l
ithium-ion-batteries/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b

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