Re: Braille Displays . . . Again!!!!

[Diane]

I have the focus 40 and it's portable, too, just a little bit longer.
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Subject: Re: Braille Displays . . . Again


I use a Focus 14 with my iPhone. And it works fine. I have never heard of a 
24 or 32 crl display. The Focus 14 costs around $1300. Plus, it's very 
portable. Unless you have a Braillenote 18, that's the oqy one I can think 
of. I think APH has a braille display that might work. Check there. Being 
partially deaf, I hfound braille to be a lifesaver. I use it in combination 
with speech at times.


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hello all:
At the risk of being another pain in the behind looking for the optimal 
Braille display for my needs, here are my needs:


1. It must be very portable;

2. It will be used for mostly a great deal of reading, and is needed for 
work and personal use;


3. It must work reliably with the iPhone;

4. As a rapid Braille reader, one of the tinier displays simply will not 
do, *yet*, a I cannot imagine that any 40-cell display is truly portable. 
I have never seen a 24- or 32-cell display, and suspect they might be 
right for me, but aside from the Brailliant, I have been unable to find 
reviews on any 24- or 32-cell displays.


5. The Actilino looked good, until I read that it only had 16 cells, *ant* 
that updating it would require a Windows machine. On a related note, I 
cannot find any reviews of Basic Braille, though the description looked 
good.


6. I seriously considered ESYS 24, but it is a little pricier than I want; 
my limit is $2500, and I prefer between $1500 and $2000.

Also, I heard the ESYS devices require a Windows machine for updating.
7. Can anyone who is an extremely fast Braille reader who uses one of the 
smaller Braille displays please let me know their experiences, good or 
bad?


8. Does ATC on the Actilino really work, perhaps canceling out the fact 
that it is quite small? Anything sluggish simply is not going to cut it.


9. I have fairly small hands, so ergonomics requires easy access to 
panning and the space bar; I also have had rather nasty tendinitis in my 
dominant hand from using my cane and from too much typing on the iPhone, 
so I have to take this into account.


10. I have seen the Focus line of displays and do not particularly like 
them.



11. The Vario Ultra 20 looks pretty good, but I am not sure if it might be 
too small; it would depend on how easy it is to move from line to line, 
and I have seen some reviews which say it is more complicated than some of 
the others, though I realize this is quite subjective.
12 I have seen the lists of supported displays, and cannot find reviews 
for most of them.
Help! Please! Thanks so much. I need more inconspicuous access to my 
reading; I feel rude having an earphone in my ear when others around me 
are presenting or talking.

Christine

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Re: Braille Displays . . . Again!!!!

[Wayne Scott]

I use a Focus 14 with my iPhone. And it works fine. I have never heard of a 24 
or 32 crl display. The Focus 14 costs around $1300. Plus, it's very portable. 
Unless you have a Braillenote 18, that's the oqy one I can think of. I think 
APH has a braille display that might work. Check there. Being partially deaf, I 
hfound braille to be a lifesaver. I use it in combination with speech at times. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> At the risk of being another pain in the behind looking for the optimal 
> Braille display for my needs, here are my needs:
> 
> 1. It must be very portable;
> 
> 2. It will be used for mostly a great deal of reading, and is needed for work 
> and personal use;
> 
> 3. It must work reliably with the iPhone;
> 
> 4. As a rapid Braille reader, one of the tinier displays simply will not do, 
> *yet*, a I cannot imagine that any 40-cell display is truly portable. I have 
> never seen a 24- or 32-cell display, and suspect they might be right for me, 
> but aside from the Brailliant, I have been unable to find reviews on any 24- 
> or 32-cell displays.
> 
> 5. The Actilino looked good, until I read that it only had 16 cells, *ant* 
> that updating it would require a Windows machine. On a related note, I cannot 
> find any reviews of Basic Braille, though the description looked good.
> 
> 6. I seriously considered ESYS 24, but it is a little pricier than I want; my 
> limit is $2500, and I prefer between $1500 and $2000.
> Also, I heard the ESYS devices require a Windows machine for updating.
> 7. Can anyone who is an extremely fast Braille reader who uses one of the 
> smaller Braille displays please let me know their experiences, good or bad?
> 
> 8. Does ATC on the Actilino really work, perhaps canceling out the fact that 
> it is quite small? Anything sluggish simply is not going to cut it.
> 
> 9. I have fairly small hands, so ergonomics requires easy access to panning 
> and the space bar; I also have had rather nasty tendinitis in my dominant 
> hand from using my cane and from too much typing on the iPhone, so I have to 
> take this into account. 
> 
> 10. I have seen the Focus line of displays and do not particularly like them.
> 
> 
> 11. The Vario Ultra 20 looks pretty good, but I am not sure if it might be 
> too small; it would depend on how easy it is to move from line to line, and I 
> have seen some reviews which say it is more complicated than some of the 
> others, though I realize this is quite subjective.
> 12 I have seen the lists of supported displays, and cannot find reviews for 
> most of them. 
> Help! Please! Thanks so much. I need more inconspicuous access to my reading; 
> I feel rude having an earphone in my ear when others around me are presenting 
> or talking.
> Christine
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Braille Displays . . . Again!!!!

[Christine Grassman]

Hello all:
At the risk of being another pain in the behind looking for the optimal Braille 
display for my needs, here are my needs:

1. It must be very portable;

2. It will be used for mostly a great deal of reading, and is needed for work 
and personal use;

3. It must work reliably with the iPhone;

4. As a rapid Braille reader, one of the tinier displays simply will not do, 
*yet*, a I cannot imagine that any 40-cell display is truly portable. I have 
never seen a 24- or 32-cell display, and suspect they might be right for me, 
but aside from the Brailliant, I have been unable to find reviews on any 24- or 
32-cell displays.

5. The Actilino looked good, until I read that it only had 16 cells, *ant* that 
updating it would require a Windows machine. On a related note, I cannot find 
any reviews of Basic Braille, though the description looked good.

6. I seriously considered ESYS 24, but it is a little pricier than I want; my 
limit is $2500, and I prefer between $1500 and $2000.
 Also, I heard the ESYS devices require a Windows machine for updating.
7. Can anyone who is an extremely fast Braille reader who uses one of the 
smaller Braille displays please let me know their experiences, good or bad?

8. Does ATC on the Actilino really work, perhaps canceling out the fact that it 
is quite small? Anything sluggish simply is not going to cut it.

9. I have fairly small hands, so ergonomics requires easy access to panning and 
the space bar; I also have had rather nasty tendinitis in my dominant hand from 
using my cane and from too much typing on the iPhone, so I have to take this 
into account. 

10. I have seen the Focus line of displays and do not particularly like them.


11. The Vario Ultra 20 looks pretty good, but I am not sure if it might be too 
small; it would depend on how easy it is to move from line to line, and I have 
seen some reviews which say it is more complicated than some of the others, 
though I realize this is quite subjective.
12 I have seen the lists of supported displays, and cannot find reviews for 
most of them. 
Help! Please! Thanks so much. I need more inconspicuous access to my reading; I 
feel rude having an earphone in my ear when others around me are presenting or 
talking.
Christine

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Re: Sorry for last message Braille displays again

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Donna,

Once you have the display paired with your device, you shouldn't need to do it 
again. If it's paired, just turn it on and then turn the device on, and the 
Braille will show the screen within seconds.

HtH,
Teresa
On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Donna Slater donnaslater...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to get to grips with using a Braille display. It is proving a 
 steep learning curve. I am finding it difficult to reconnect the display via 
 Bluetooth when the display has been disconnected. What  is the best way to go 
 about this?
 
 Donna Slater
 donnaslater...@gmail.com
 
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RE: Sorry for last message Braille displays again

[Richard Turner]

Hi Donna,

It depends a bit on the display, but for the most part, once you have them
successfully connected, follow this pattern:
When you are done using the display, lock the phone, then turn off the
display.
When you want to use the display again, make sure the phone is locked, turn
on the display, (with some it helps to wait about 10 or 15 seconds) then
unlock the phone.
They should reconnect without any trouble.

HTH,
Richard
 

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Subject: Sorry for last message Braille displays again

I am trying to get to grips with using a Braille display. It is proving a
steep learning curve. I am finding it difficult to reconnect the display via
Bluetooth when the display has been disconnected. What  is the best way to
go about this?

Donna Slater
donnaslater...@gmail.com

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Re: Sorry for last message Braille displays again

[Ron Miller]

Hi,
Any time you need to re-connect your braille display with the iPhone or you've 
locked your iPhone and want it to come up and begin displaying braille when you 
wake it up, remember to always have the braille display powered on before you 
re-start or unlock your iPhone. I can only speak authoritativly about the Focus 
Blue braille displays, but when the displan is already on, the phone should 
find the display when it ues up, or is unlocked using the power butson or the 
Home button.

As long as Bluetooth is active, the iPhone should find the braille display if 
it has already been paired with the phone.

Best regards

Ron Miller

On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Donna Slater donnaslater...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to get to grips with using a Braille display. It is proving a 
 steep learning curve. I am finding it difficult to reconnect the display via 
 Bluetooth when the display has been disconnected. What  is the best way to go 
 about this?
 
 Donna Slater
 donnaslater...@gmail.com
 
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Re: Sorry for last message Braille displays again

[Scott Davert]

Hi Donna.
If you're finding that your display is not automatically reconnecting
as the other 2 posters have outlined, you may want to try a
springboard reset. You do this by pressing the lock/power button 6
times in rapid succession. Your phone should restart itself, and the
display should reconnect. I've noticed this being an issue more with
the Braille Sense and the Apex than anything, and that's how I have
fixed it.

HTH,
Scott

On 9/30/12, Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Any time you need to re-connect your braille display with the iPhone or
 you've locked your iPhone and want it to come up and begin displaying
 braille when you wake it up, remember to always have the braille display
 powered on before you re-start or unlock your iPhone. I can only speak
 authoritativly about the Focus Blue braille displays, but when the displan
 is already on, the phone should find the display when it ues up, or is
 unlocked using the power butson or the Home button.

 As long as Bluetooth is active, the iPhone should find the braille display
 if it has already been paired with the phone.

 Best regards

 Ron Miller

 On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Donna Slater donnaslater...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to get to grips with using a Braille display. It is proving a
 steep learning curve. I am finding it difficult to reconnect the display
 via Bluetooth when the display has been disconnected. What  is the best
 way to go about this?

 Donna Slater
 donnaslater...@gmail.com

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Re: Sorry for last message Braille displays again

[David Chittenden]

If your display disconnects whilst your iOS device is on, first try locking and 
then unlocking the device. If that does not work, turn the device off and then 
on again.

Crashing the Springboard by pressing the power button multiple times whilst VO 
is running is definitely not recommended by Apple, and is the only restart 
method that has ever corrupted data on my iPhone 4. Note that Apple disabled 
this crashing method when VO is not running.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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On 01/10/2012, at 0:20, Donna Slater donnaslater...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to get to grips with using a Braille display. It is proving a 
 steep learning curve. I am finding it difficult to reconnect the display via 
 Bluetooth when the display has been disconnected. What  is the best way to go 
 about this?
 
 Donna Slater
 donnaslater...@gmail.com
 
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