RE: Braille Table in the Rotor
HI Tom, This is really confusing, and I had trouble figuring it out too. What you need to do is go to your braille tables and remove the U.S. English braille from the braille tables. Trust me, you have to do this, or the following won't work. Then, go to where it says, default braille table, UEB. Double tap on that and choose US English contracted braille, and you will be set. You can remove braille table now and it will never change. The reason just removing braille table from the rotor wouldn't work, at least for me, is that it seemed that whenever I rebooted, or did any kind of IOS update on the phone (which we all know has been frequent since 13), it changed back to UEB. Also, if you don't remove the US contracted table from your braille tables, it won't let you make it the default when you double tap on UEB. Don't ask me why that is, but it won't. so you first have to remove it from your braille tables. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:39 PM To: vi-phone list Subject: Braille Table in the Rotor Hi, I have a couple of questions about Braille Table in the rotor. I use my iPhone with a Braille display frequently; in fact, I’m using one now. I have input set to eight-dot and output set to contracted. I have NOT switched over to using UEB yet and, frankly, I don’t plan to do it until it’s absolutely necessary. So, my questions are these: 1. Apple has set the system Braille table to UEB and I can add English US if I want to, so I did. Can I set the system Braille table to English US if I want to? Last I checked, I couldn’t find a way to do that. 2. Regardless of the answer to question 1, can I get rid of Braille Table in the rotor? If I’ve set my preferred Braille table and don’t see a need to change it on the fly, why would I need Braille table in the rotor? These questions have been bugging me since IOS 13 came out. Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E342F117-F041-4687-83F2-370BCBE8E86D%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/028601d59647%247a78a8f0%246f69fad0%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Braille Table in the Rotor
Hi Tom. I have these exact questions. it doesn't matter if I change between the two tables this pesky UEB keeps being the one used! I hate UEB!!! lol. I can't delete it either. How annoying. Just because it's the standard doesn't mean people want to use it. We should have the option. Jen om my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi, > I have a couple of questions about Braille Table in the rotor. I use my > iPhone with a Braille display frequently; in fact, I’m using one now. I have > input set to eight-dot and output set to contracted. I have NOT switched over > to using UEB yet and, frankly, I don’t plan to do it until it’s absolutely > necessary. So, my questions are these: > 1. Apple has set the system Braille table to UEB and I can add English US if > I want to, so I did. Can I set the system Braille table to English US if I > want to? Last I checked, I couldn’t find a way to do that. > 2. Regardless of the answer to question 1, can I get rid of Braille Table in > the rotor? If I’ve set my preferred Braille table and don’t see a need to > change it on the fly, why would I need Braille table in the rotor? > > These questions have been bugging me since IOS 13 came out. > > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E342F117-F041-4687-83F2-370BCBE8E86D%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F4314E15-E2DF-4D97-9EA9-51C5E76724FE%40gmail.com.
Re: Braille Table in the Rotor
Hi. I'm speculating here, but I think if you aren't using a Braille display or a second language, then that item does not appear in the rotor. At least that has been the case for me. I have used Braille displays with my iPhone before, but not currently. I've looked in the rotor setting, and Braille Table is selected, but it is dimmed since I don't have a display connected/am not using one. If I were to remove the languages that I have in my rotor, such as a secondary US English voice and the Australian voice, then Language would not appear in my rotor either. AS far as changing the display language, in iOS 13.2, go to VoiceOver/Braille/Braille tables. There is a system button where you can go in to change the system wide Braille language you want to use, such as English US. Hth, Wayne On 11/7/19, Richard Turner wrote: > I'm not sure about the first part of your question, but I've never found a > way to get braille table or language, for that matter, out of the rotor. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it." > -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane > Wagner > > > On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Tom Lange wrote: > > Hi, > I have a couple of questions about Braille Table in the rotor. I use my > iPhone with a Braille display frequently; in fact, I’m using one now. I have > input set to eight-dot and output set to contracted. I have NOT switched > over to using UEB yet and, frankly, I don’t plan to do it until it’s > absolutely necessary. So, my questions are these: > 1. Apple has set the system Braille table to UEB and I can add English US if > I want to, so I did. Can I set the system Braille table to English US if I > want to? Last I checked, I couldn’t find a way to do that. > 2. Regardless of the answer to question 1, can I get rid of Braille Table in > the rotor? If I’ve set my preferred Braille table and don’t see a need to > change it on the fly, why would I need Braille table in the rotor? > > These questions have been bugging me since IOS 13 came out. > > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cfec633e9a3f249b5854408d763ec6df6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087739412955600sdata=wKIVWGLs4qf2tvzK3JVGjlkW4BnngYFMw9FamI1RM7o%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FE342F117-F041-4687-83F2-370BCBE8E86D%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cfec633e9a3f249b5854408d763ec6df6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087739412955600sdata=By1aQOM3qPOlXsR2BrSYb0n2vCbApUP7X9RyP%2BqV7tY%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB1901A9D9229F2CBEBAA57F0BB77B0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. > -- Connect with me on GoodReads: www.goodreads.com/waynesbooks -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of thi
Re: Braille Table in the Rotor
I'm not sure about the first part of your question, but I've never found a way to get braille table or language, for that matter, out of the rotor. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Tom Lange wrote: Hi, I have a couple of questions about Braille Table in the rotor. I use my iPhone with a Braille display frequently; in fact, I’m using one now. I have input set to eight-dot and output set to contracted. I have NOT switched over to using UEB yet and, frankly, I don’t plan to do it until it’s absolutely necessary. So, my questions are these: 1. Apple has set the system Braille table to UEB and I can add English US if I want to, so I did. Can I set the system Braille table to English US if I want to? Last I checked, I couldn’t find a way to do that. 2. Regardless of the answer to question 1, can I get rid of Braille Table in the rotor? If I’ve set my preferred Braille table and don’t see a need to change it on the fly, why would I need Braille table in the rotor? These questions have been bugging me since IOS 13 came out. Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cfec633e9a3f249b5854408d763ec6df6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087739412955600sdata=wKIVWGLs4qf2tvzK3JVGjlkW4BnngYFMw9FamI1RM7o%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FE342F117-F041-4687-83F2-370BCBE8E86D%2540gmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cfec633e9a3f249b5854408d763ec6df6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087739412955600sdata=By1aQOM3qPOlXsR2BrSYb0n2vCbApUP7X9RyP%2BqV7tY%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB1901A9D9229F2CBEBAA57F0BB77B0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Braille Table in the Rotor
Hi, I have a couple of questions about Braille Table in the rotor. I use my iPhone with a Braille display frequently; in fact, I’m using one now. I have input set to eight-dot and output set to contracted. I have NOT switched over to using UEB yet and, frankly, I don’t plan to do it until it’s absolutely necessary. So, my questions are these: 1. Apple has set the system Braille table to UEB and I can add English US if I want to, so I did. Can I set the system Braille table to English US if I want to? Last I checked, I couldn’t find a way to do that. 2. Regardless of the answer to question 1, can I get rid of Braille Table in the rotor? If I’ve set my preferred Braille table and don’t see a need to change it on the fly, why would I need Braille table in the rotor? These questions have been bugging me since IOS 13 came out. Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E342F117-F041-4687-83F2-370BCBE8E86D%40gmail.com.
