Re: Braille display with pages
When I got my iPad Air there was something there about here are some free Apple apps to get you started. So I downloaded the lot. Now you know what I know. The only one I briefly looked at was garage band. The apps were free when I got them. I don't care why they were free then. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille display with pages And what I really wanted to know is whether it was worth the bother. And Braille users are the ones who can truly say that Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Alan, could you provide a link or source about the accessibility of Pages from Apple (e.g. where you heard that they say it is totally accessible)? I have not been able to find documentation like this. There are certainly aspects of Pages that are accessible on iOS, but in my experience I would not say it is totally accessible (or, at least, I'd say lots of it is quite tricky to use with VO). For example, I do not believe there is any way to review formatting, alignment, etc. for text under the cursor. You could select text and then navigate into the formatting options to try to get the information (e.g. by looking to see if the bold or italic options are selected), but that would only work if all the text you selected had the same formatting. I consider myself to be a power user of iOS with VO, so I'd be pretty surprised if I'm missing something here, but of course I'd love to stand corrected. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: June 24, 2014 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille display with pages Pages is a free apple app so you can download it and find out for your self but Apple says it's totally accessible. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Braille display with pages Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had experience with using a Braille display with pages on the iPad or iPhone? How well does it work? I am also wondeering about numbers, but pages is the most important. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members
RE: Braille display with pages
Yes, that's because new devices purchased after, I believe, September or October 2013, are entitled to the iWork apps at no cost. For everyone else, they are not free. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: June 25, 2014 8:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille display with pages When I got my iPad Air there was something there about here are some free Apple apps to get you started. So I downloaded the lot. Now you know what I know. The only one I briefly looked at was garage band. The apps were free when I got them. I don't care why they were free then. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Braille display with pages And what I really wanted to know is whether it was worth the bother. And Braille users are the ones who can truly say that Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Alan, could you provide a link or source about the accessibility of Pages from Apple (e.g. where you heard that they say it is totally accessible)? I have not been able to find documentation like this. There are certainly aspects of Pages that are accessible on iOS, but in my experience I would not say it is totally accessible (or, at least, I'd say lots of it is quite tricky to use with VO). For example, I do not believe there is any way to review formatting, alignment, etc. for text under the cursor. You could select text and then navigate into the formatting options to try to get the information (e.g. by looking to see if the bold or italic options are selected), but that would only work if all the text you selected had the same formatting. I consider myself to be a power user of iOS with VO, so I'd be pretty surprised if I'm missing something here, but of course I'd love to stand corrected. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: June 24, 2014 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille display with pages Pages is a free apple app so you can download it and find out for your self but Apple says it's totally accessible. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Braille display with pages Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had experience with using a Braille display with pages on the iPad or iPhone? How well does it work? I am also wondeering about numbers, but pages is the most important. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Braille display with pages
Pages is a free apple app so you can download it and find out for your self but Apple says it's totally accessible. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Braille display with pages Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had experience with using a Braille display with pages on the iPad or iPhone? How well does it work? I am also wondeering about numbers, but pages is the most important. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Braille display with pages
Hi Alan, could you provide a link or source about the accessibility of Pages from Apple (e.g. where you heard that they say it is totally accessible)? I have not been able to find documentation like this. There are certainly aspects of Pages that are accessible on iOS, but in my experience I would not say it is totally accessible (or, at least, I'd say lots of it is quite tricky to use with VO). For example, I do not believe there is any way to review formatting, alignment, etc. for text under the cursor. You could select text and then navigate into the formatting options to try to get the information (e.g. by looking to see if the bold or italic options are selected), but that would only work if all the text you selected had the same formatting. I consider myself to be a power user of iOS with VO, so I'd be pretty surprised if I'm missing something here, but of course I'd love to stand corrected. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: June 24, 2014 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille display with pages Pages is a free apple app so you can download it and find out for your self but Apple says it's totally accessible. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Braille display with pages Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had experience with using a Braille display with pages on the iPad or iPhone? How well does it work? I am also wondeering about numbers, but pages is the most important. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Braille display with pages
Also, Pages, Keynote, and Numbers are only free for devices purchased after a certain date (I believe some time in October, 2013). Otherwise they are not free. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: June 24, 2014 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille display with pages Pages is a free apple app so you can download it and find out for your self but Apple says it's totally accessible. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Braille display with pages Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had experience with using a Braille display with pages on the iPad or iPhone? How well does it work? I am also wondeering about numbers, but pages is the most important. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille display with pages
And what I really wanted to know is whether it was worth the bother. And Braille users are the ones who can truly say that Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Alan, could you provide a link or source about the accessibility of Pages from Apple (e.g. where you heard that they say it is totally accessible)? I have not been able to find documentation like this. There are certainly aspects of Pages that are accessible on iOS, but in my experience I would not say it is totally accessible (or, at least, I'd say lots of it is quite tricky to use with VO). For example, I do not believe there is any way to review formatting, alignment, etc. for text under the cursor. You could select text and then navigate into the formatting options to try to get the information (e.g. by looking to see if the bold or italic options are selected), but that would only work if all the text you selected had the same formatting. I consider myself to be a power user of iOS with VO, so I'd be pretty surprised if I'm missing something here, but of course I'd love to stand corrected. Grant -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: June 24, 2014 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille display with pages Pages is a free apple app so you can download it and find out for your self but Apple says it's totally accessible. HTH Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Braille display with pages Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had experience with using a Braille display with pages on the iPad or iPhone? How well does it work? I am also wondeering about numbers, but pages is the most important. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all
Braille display with pages
Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had experience with using a Braille display with pages on the iPad or iPhone? How well does it work? I am also wondeering about numbers, but pages is the most important. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
