Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ChromeVox is the screen reader for the ChromeOS operating system from 
Google. It's also a screen reading extension for the Chrome browser. I 
know you can run Chrome with ChromeVox on Windows, Linux and maybe the 
Mac. I'm not sure if it's possible to run it on the Chrome browser on 
IOS or Android.


On 03/12/15 11:10, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

What is chromevox?

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Chrome has been accessible with VoiceOver on IOS for as long as I can
remember. There's no ChromeVox needed.

For my part, I'm all about using the right tool for the job and having
as many options as possible. I don't mind learning some new key strokes
in order to use VoiceOver on my iPhone or NVDA/JAWS on Windows or Orca
on Linux. the same would be true for ChromeVox on ChromeOS. I'm also OK
with learning ChromeVox on Chrome if it means being able to collaborate
with my peers on Google Docs, and ChromeVox with Chrome is the only
combination I've found that lets me do this.

On 02/12/15 13:32, Mary Otten wrote:

I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I don't know about 
the Mac side. But I am sending this to both lists because I am interested in 
the current state of the excess ability of this browser on both platforms. I am 
not interested in learning chromevox, as I think it is stupid to have to learn 
a whole new convoluted set of keystrokes just to use one program. And in my 
long history of using computers, I have gone through enough learning and 
unlearning of keystrokes, that I feel I have earned the right to have excess 
ability without having to learn yet another set of them, which will not be 
applicable to the whole system. So, what kind of excess ability can I have on 
the Mac with chrome using Yosemite and voiceover? How about on iOS running iOS 
9?
Mary


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RE: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-03 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
What is chromevox?

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 8:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

Chrome has been accessible with VoiceOver on IOS for as long as I can 
remember. There's no ChromeVox needed.

For my part, I'm all about using the right tool for the job and having 
as many options as possible. I don't mind learning some new key strokes 
in order to use VoiceOver on my iPhone or NVDA/JAWS on Windows or Orca 
on Linux. the same would be true for ChromeVox on ChromeOS. I'm also OK 
with learning ChromeVox on Chrome if it means being able to collaborate 
with my peers on Google Docs, and ChromeVox with Chrome is the only 
combination I've found that lets me do this.

On 02/12/15 13:32, Mary Otten wrote:
> I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I don't know about 
> the Mac side. But I am sending this to both lists because I am interested in 
> the current state of the excess ability of this browser on both platforms. I 
> am not interested in learning chromevox, as I think it is stupid to have to 
> learn a whole new convoluted set of keystrokes just to use one program. And 
> in my long history of using computers, I have gone through enough learning 
> and unlearning of keystrokes, that I feel I have earned the right to have 
> excess ability without having to learn yet another set of them, which will 
> not be applicable to the whole system. So, what kind of excess ability can I 
> have on the Mac with chrome using Yosemite and voiceover? How about on iOS 
> running iOS 9?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

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Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Actually, last I knew, Apple forced 3rd party browsers to use an older 
web infrastructure then what's available to Safari, so if you're using 
Chrome or Firefox then you may not get the same performance that you're 
seeing with Safari.


There are reasons to use other browsers though. You may like the 
interface of the other browsers better. Another browser may handle some 
web pages better. I know I switched to Chrome because I just had so many 
problems with Safari and a web page I frequented a lot.


You can also sync things like your favourites, log in ID's, open tabs 
and so on across all devices running a browser. Since I run Windows and 
Linux in addition to IOS, I like using Chrome and hope to start using 
Firefox soon because I also run these browsers on these other platforms.


On 02/12/15 15:20, Mike Arrigo wrote:

On I O S, Apple requires that all browsers use the safari engine to
display web pages, so, really, there is not much benefit to using
another browser besides safari itself, unless having your history on
another browser sync to another device is important to you. Chrome on
the mac is useable with voiceover, though it doesn't work as well as
safari. I have found that some elements cannot be clicked on,
particularly clickable text that functions as a link, but is created
using java script. I think chromevox does have its place, and can be
useful when accessing certain sites with chrome, and the good thing is,
you can have chromevox installed and enable or disable it as desired.
For browsing on the mac, safari is my primary browser, but I will turn
to chrome if safari has problems with a particular site.
Original message:

I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I don't
know about the Mac side. But I am sending this to both lists because I
am interested in the current state of the excess ability of this
browser on both platforms. I am not interested in learning chromevox,
as I think it is stupid to have to learn a whole new convoluted set of
keystrokes just to use one program. And in my long history of using
computers, I have gone through enough learning and unlearning of
keystrokes, that I feel I have earned the right to have excess ability
without having to learn yet another set of them, which will not be
applicable to the whole system. So, what kind of excess ability can I
have on the Mac with chrome using Yosemite and voiceover? How about on
iOS running iOS 9?
Mary




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Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Chrome has been accessible with VoiceOver on IOS for as long as I can 
remember. There's no ChromeVox needed.


For my part, I'm all about using the right tool for the job and having 
as many options as possible. I don't mind learning some new key strokes 
in order to use VoiceOver on my iPhone or NVDA/JAWS on Windows or Orca 
on Linux. the same would be true for ChromeVox on ChromeOS. I'm also OK 
with learning ChromeVox on Chrome if it means being able to collaborate 
with my peers on Google Docs, and ChromeVox with Chrome is the only 
combination I've found that lets me do this.


On 02/12/15 13:32, Mary Otten wrote:

I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I don't know about 
the Mac side. But I am sending this to both lists because I am interested in 
the current state of the excess ability of this browser on both platforms. I am 
not interested in learning chromevox, as I think it is stupid to have to learn 
a whole new convoluted set of keystrokes just to use one program. And in my 
long history of using computers, I have gone through enough learning and 
unlearning of keystrokes, that I feel I have earned the right to have excess 
ability without having to learn yet another set of them, which will not be 
applicable to the whole system. So, what kind of excess ability can I have on 
the Mac with chrome using Yosemite and voiceover? How about on iOS running iOS 
9?
Mary


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Re: Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Arrigo
On I O S, Apple requires that all browsers use the safari engine to 
display web pages, so, really, there is not much benefit to using 
another browser besides safari itself, unless having your history on 
another browser sync to another device is important to you. Chrome on 
the mac is useable with voiceover, though it doesn't work as well as 
safari. I have found that some elements cannot be clicked on, 
particularly clickable text that functions as a link, but is created 
using java script. I think chromevox does have its place, and can be 
useful when accessing certain sites with chrome, and the good thing is, 
you can have chromevox installed and enable or disable it as desired. 
For browsing on the mac, safari is my primary browser, but I will turn 
to chrome if safari has problems with a particular site.

Original message:
I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I don't know 
about the Mac side. But I am sending this to both lists because I am 
interested in the current state of the excess ability of this browser 
on both platforms. I am not interested in learning chromevox, as I 
think it is stupid to have to learn a whole new convoluted set of 
keystrokes just to use one program. And in my long history of using 
computers, I have gone through enough learning and unlearning of 
keystrokes, that I feel I have earned the right to have excess ability 
without having to learn yet another set of them, which will not be 
applicable to the whole system. So, what kind of excess ability can I 
have on the Mac with chrome using Yosemite and voiceover? How about on 
iOS running iOS 9?

Mary




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Chrome and it's excess ability on the Mac and iOS

2015-12-02 Thread Mary Otten
I recently saw that there is an update for chrome for iOS. I don't know about 
the Mac side. But I am sending this to both lists because I am interested in 
the current state of the excess ability of this browser on both platforms. I am 
not interested in learning chromevox, as I think it is stupid to have to learn 
a whole new convoluted set of keystrokes just to use one program. And in my 
long history of using computers, I have gone through enough learning and 
unlearning of keystrokes, that I feel I have earned the right to have excess 
ability without having to learn yet another set of them, which will not be 
applicable to the whole system. So, what kind of excess ability can I have on 
the Mac with chrome using Yosemite and voiceover? How about on iOS running iOS 
9?
Mary


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