RE: Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Adrienne, I checked a bit more into this Denon system and it looks like they also have a number of different size speakers and given the success of Sonos it is of course to be expected that others want a piece of that pie. Keep in mind that Sonos has also won a lot of awards with their system, their Playbar was rated best soundbar I think in 2014 and in any case when you read reviews they are always based on a reviewer hence they are subjective. I used to be very much an audio file and still have my very expensive system which I purchased around 20 years ago in my music room downstairs and I can assure you that given their price all the Sonos players sound awesome and if, for example, you were to combine 2 Play 3 or 2 Play 5 speakers with a Sonos Sub it sounds outright impressive. Of course at that point you are looking at $1,300 for the Sub and 2 Play 3 or $1,500 for the Sub and 2 Play 5. If you have only a smaller room even a set of Play 1 sound very nice and they are only $200/each in the US (not sure what Sonos prices are in the UK). Best regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Heos Denon speakers app Hi Sieghard and Brett Thanks very much for this feedback. Yes, it sounds like Sonus is a much better bet for us VO users. I was intrigued by the Denon system appearing in T3 magazines list of the best 12 pieces of tech on the planet. I did download the app, but it didn’t really make much sense without a system to use with it. I also tweeted Denon to ask about accessibility, but have had no reply. Can’t help but feel, from what you both say, that Sonus should get my custom because of their commitment to accessibility. Thanks again Adrienne -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Sonos accessibility question was Re: Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Krister, I guess you are technically correct although the fact TruePlay isn't accessible is because Sonos hasn't figured out a way to make it accessible with Voiceover. I'll see if one of the contacts I had at Sonos from a few years ago when I was bugging them about accessibility a lot is still there and I'll ask him. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Sonos accessibility question was Re: Heos Denon speakers app Hi Speaking of accessibility in the Sonos app, i have 2 questions: Does anyone know if the trueplay function of Sonos is going to be accessible? If not, we can’t say it’s fully accessible, we can say it’s about 99.9 percent there. The other question is has anyone heard anything about the accessibility on the Mac side of things Sonos? Will it improve? /Krister > 20 jan. 2016 kl. 13:11 skrev 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone > : > > Hi Sieghard and Brett > > Thanks very much for this feedback. > > Yes, it sounds like Sonus is a much better bet for us VO users. I was > intrigued by the Denon system appearing in T3 magazines list of the best 12 > pieces of tech on the planet. > > I did download the app, but it didn’t really make much sense without a system > to use with it. I also tweeted Denon to ask about accessibility, but have had > no reply. > > Can’t help but feel, from what you both say, that Sonus should get my custom > because of their commitment to accessibility. > > Thanks again > > Adrienne > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Sonos accessibility question was Re: Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Speaking of accessibility in the Sonos app, i have 2 questions: Does anyone know if the trueplay function of Sonos is going to be accessible? If not, we can’t say it’s fully accessible, we can say it’s about 99.9 percent there. The other question is has anyone heard anything about the accessibility on the Mac side of things Sonos? Will it improve? /Krister > 20 jan. 2016 kl. 13:11 skrev 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone > : > > Hi Sieghard and Brett > > Thanks very much for this feedback. > > Yes, it sounds like Sonus is a much better bet for us VO users. I was > intrigued by the Denon system appearing in T3 magazines list of the best 12 > pieces of tech on the planet. > > I did download the app, but it didn’t really make much sense without a system > to use with it. I also tweeted Denon to ask about accessibility, but have had > no reply. > > Can’t help but feel, from what you both say, that Sonus should get my custom > because of their commitment to accessibility. > > Thanks again > > Adrienne > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Sieghard and Brett Thanks very much for this feedback. Yes, it sounds like Sonus is a much better bet for us VO users. I was intrigued by the Denon system appearing in T3 magazines list of the best 12 pieces of tech on the planet. I did download the app, but it didn’t really make much sense without a system to use with it. I also tweeted Denon to ask about accessibility, but have had no reply. Can’t help but feel, from what you both say, that Sonus should get my custom because of their commitment to accessibility. Thanks again Adrienne -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Adrian, I ended up buying a Sonos and don't regret it: the accessibility is great and the sound is also great. When researching, I did look at the Heos speakers. You can grab the app yourself and see what you think of the accessibility, for yourself. The app is definitely not as accessible as sonos, but looked like it would be usable for the most part, but there were three issues that turned me offf. 1. The set-up process requires you to connect your iPhone to the speaker with a 3.5MM to 3.5MM cable then follow the set-up instructions. being a Voiceover user, I couldn't see how I would be able to independantly do this. If I am paying this kind of money, I don't want to have to rely on sighted assistance for this. 2. To group or ungroup speakers, you need to drag and drop them. I tried double tapping and holding to see if I could successfully do this with VoiceOver, but it didn't appear so. 3. I am not sure of their commitment to accessibility and couldn't find any references to accessibility when searching their site, as I could un the sonos site. I wouldn't want to spend this kind of money doing a home set-up only to find an app update may make the product totally unusable. I am not saying that this will necessarily happen, but there is that chance. I guess there is that chance with Sonos as well, but given they are aware of accessibility and do mention it on there site, I concluded this was less likely with the Sonos products. Hope this helps, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone > On 19 Jan 2016, at 8:01AM 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Hello, > > Anyone tried using these Denon wireless speakers and know if the app is > accessible? > > Best > > Adrienne > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Adrienne, Do you refer to the Denon "Heos" speakers? I just had a quick look and found them on Amazon Canada for $329. At that price point I immediately would ask if these are better than say a Sonos Play 3 which may cost a bit more, but it gives you access to the entire Sonos ecosystem with all their various speakers, amps, the Playbar, Sub etc. Sonos I think is clearly the industry leader in this category and I can assure you that from what I have seen so far no other system matches the offering of music services you can connect to. In addition to that the Sonos app is fully accessible and a few years ago it seems Sonos made a strong commitment to accessibility so one can assume it will continue to be extremely accessible. Sonos is also fantastic when it comes to pushing out updates which enhance the system further over time and while they add more products to the line-up, the actual hardware is very long-lasting. I have several Connect Amp and Connect units which are now 6 to 7 years old and they are still currently being sold by Sonos and receive all updates. Best regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 1:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Heos Denon speakers app Hello, Anyone tried using these Denon wireless speakers and know if the app is accessible? Best Adrienne -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Heos Denon speakers app
Hello, Anyone tried using these Denon wireless speakers and know if the app is accessible? Best Adrienne -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
