RE: How to be blind episode 45

2013-05-01 Thread Donald Moore
Or at least how it relates to the iPhone.  Sending me to a website is kind
of like spam from other companies.

I'd rethink the marketing strategy.



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Of Lauren Simmons
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Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

Donald,

the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told 
you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete the 
message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for 
you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their 
website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when 
people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is 
how some do things.

LS

- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45


 Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested 
 persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of 
 capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.

 Don Roberts


 On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
 be Blind podcast!
 Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
 the show notes.
 Take care!
 http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

 Mike

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Re: How to be blind episode 45

2013-05-01 Thread Bryan Schulz

hi,
wrong, if it is important, tell me about it.
if it leaves me wondering, i hit delete.
Bryan Schulz


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Donald,

the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told 
you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete 
the message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is 
for you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their 
website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when 
people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is 
how some do things.


LS

- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45


Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested 
persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of 
capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.


Don Roberts


On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:

Hi everyone!
A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
be Blind podcast!
Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
the show notes.
Take care!
http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

Mike

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RE: How to be blind episode 45

2013-05-01 Thread Exracer
I listened to this podcast yesterday and really enjoyed it. Now that I took
the time to listen and must say that I liked the discussion and content of
the podcast, I will definatly listen again. All that this discussion has
done is to spark my interest of the file and for all the time that people
have been complaining about it, they could have listened to the entire
podcast. Thank you for producing this production and hope for more.

Jay

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Of Donald Moore
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45

Or at least how it relates to the iPhone.  Sending me to a website is kind
of like spam from other companies.

I'd rethink the marketing strategy.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

Donald,

the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told
you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete the
message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for
you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their
website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when
people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is
how some do things.

LS

- Original Message -
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45


 Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested 
 persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of 
 capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.

 Don Roberts


 On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
 be Blind podcast!
 Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
 the show notes.
 Take care!
 http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

 Mike

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Re: How to be blind episode 45

2013-05-01 Thread Lauren Simmons
There's now a hundred shows like this. Most on this list have a high 
probability of already knowing what is being presented. I passed after 
listening a couple of minutes.


LS

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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 5:20 AM
Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45



I listened to this podcast yesterday and really enjoyed it. Now that I took
the time to listen and must say that I liked the discussion and content of
the podcast, I will definatly listen again. All that this discussion has
done is to spark my interest of the file and for all the time that people
have been complaining about it, they could have listened to the entire
podcast. Thank you for producing this production and hope for more.

Jay

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Of Donald Moore
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45

Or at least how it relates to the iPhone.  Sending me to a website is kind
of like spam from other companies.

I'd rethink the marketing strategy.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

Donald,

the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told
you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete 
the

message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for
you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their
website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when
people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is
how some do things.

LS

- Original Message -
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45



Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested
persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of
capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.

Don Roberts


On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:

Hi everyone!
A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
be Blind podcast!
Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
the show notes.
Take care!
http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

Mike

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RE: How to be blind episode 45

2013-05-01 Thread Neal Ewers
Please accept this as positive criticism. 

Lauren is right, there are lots of shows like this. So, what makes yours
stand out. After listening for about 10 minutes, what I heard was a group of
people who are blind trying to sound like a panel of news correspondents and
stumbling all over each other's lines. I just didn't find it interesting.
Perhaps a bit more focus and a bit more script planning is in order. I know,
some people like spontaneity, and I am not suggesting that this should be
done away with. But sometimes spontaneity needs to follow a loose script so
that it doesn't degenerate into just so much talk about not much of
anything.

Remember, I said this was positive. I think this has some promise, and I am
sure there are people who like it just the way it is. For my enjoyment and
edification, I want to find out things of important with a lot less
unrelated chatter that I have to wade through to get there.

Good luck with your efforts. And people, don't start bashing the messenger
because you think my criticism too harsh. That's not where I am coming from.
I would guess the people who run this podcast want feedback, and that is all
this is.

Neal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

There's now a hundred shows like this. Most on this list have a high
probability of already knowing what is being presented. I passed after
listening a couple of minutes.

LS

- Original Message -
From: Exracer not.by.sigh...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 5:20 AM
Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45


I listened to this podcast yesterday and really enjoyed it. Now that I took
 the time to listen and must say that I liked the discussion and content of
 the podcast, I will definatly listen again. All that this discussion has
 done is to spark my interest of the file and for all the time that people
 have been complaining about it, they could have listened to the entire
 podcast. Thank you for producing this production and hope for more.

 Jay

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Donald Moore
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:59 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45

 Or at least how it relates to the iPhone.  Sending me to a website is kind
 of like spam from other companies.

 I'd rethink the marketing strategy.



 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Lauren Simmons
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

 Donald,

 the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told
 you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete 
 the
 message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for
 you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their
 website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when
 people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is
 how some do things.

 LS

 - Original Message -
 From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45


 Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested
 persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of
 capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.

 Don Roberts


 On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
 be Blind podcast!
 Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
 the show notes.
 Take care!
 http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

 Mike

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Re: How to be blind episode 45

2013-05-01 Thread Corey
Agreed fully

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

 Please accept this as positive criticism. 
 
 Lauren is right, there are lots of shows like this. So, what makes yours
 stand out. After listening for about 10 minutes, what I heard was a group of
 people who are blind trying to sound like a panel of news correspondents and
 stumbling all over each other's lines. I just didn't find it interesting.
 Perhaps a bit more focus and a bit more script planning is in order. I know,
 some people like spontaneity, and I am not suggesting that this should be
 done away with. But sometimes spontaneity needs to follow a loose script so
 that it doesn't degenerate into just so much talk about not much of
 anything.
 
 Remember, I said this was positive. I think this has some promise, and I am
 sure there are people who like it just the way it is. For my enjoyment and
 edification, I want to find out things of important with a lot less
 unrelated chatter that I have to wade through to get there.
 
 Good luck with your efforts. And people, don't start bashing the messenger
 because you think my criticism too harsh. That's not where I am coming from.
 I would guess the people who run this podcast want feedback, and that is all
 this is.
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Lauren Simmons
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45
 
 There's now a hundred shows like this. Most on this list have a high
 probability of already knowing what is being presented. I passed after
 listening a couple of minutes.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Exracer not.by.sigh...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 5:20 AM
 Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45
 
 
 I listened to this podcast yesterday and really enjoyed it. Now that I took
 the time to listen and must say that I liked the discussion and content of
 the podcast, I will definatly listen again. All that this discussion has
 done is to spark my interest of the file and for all the time that people
 have been complaining about it, they could have listened to the entire
 podcast. Thank you for producing this production and hope for more.
 
 Jay
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Donald Moore
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:59 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45
 
 Or at least how it relates to the iPhone.  Sending me to a website is kind
 of like spam from other companies.
 
 I'd rethink the marketing strategy.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Lauren Simmons
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45
 
 Donald,
 
 the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told
 you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete 
 the
 message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for
 you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their
 website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when
 people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is
 how some do things.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45
 
 
 Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested
 persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of
 capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
 be Blind podcast!
 Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
 the show notes.
 Take care!
 http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/
 
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Re: How to be blind episode 45

2013-04-30 Thread Sean Paul
I'm the same way. If I read in an RSS feed part of an article  it tells me 
to continue reading, click, I move on. Unlike Styx, I don't have to much 
time on my hands.
- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 20:00
Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45


Personally, if there is absolutely no description I just delete the 
message,
my time is valuable and unless I know what I am going for I don't have 
time
to just pop in and see what the article is about.  A brief synopsis would 
be

most helpful so I'd know if it is something I would think spending the
length of the cast worth my time.  I for example would not want to her an
hour long podcast on At Bat as I am not a sports fan, only thing I want to
know is if the diamondbacks won and Siri will tell me that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

Donald,

the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told
you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete 
the

message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for
you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their
website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when
people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is
how some do things.

LS

- Original Message -
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45



Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested
persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of
capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.

Don Roberts


On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:

Hi everyone!
A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
be Blind podcast!
Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
the show notes.
Take care!
http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

Mike

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Re: How to be blind episode 45

2013-04-30 Thread Mike
Duly noted folks,

The only reason that that email was so brief and to the point was because I had 
screaming children and other Chaos happening around me at the time. Perhaps I 
should have waited to send it but I wanted to get out to you all as soon as 
possible.
The how to be blind podcast is nothing new to this list even though I 
understand many of the people reading this list are new. The outline of the 
show usually never changes. There are articles about blindness, lots of apps, 
and some extra random things thrown in for fun. That is how every single show 
works so if there is ever a question down the road now you will know.
I do appreciate the feedback and will be sure to make sure to include details 
in the future.

 Mike Mll

On Apr 30, 2013, at 4:36 AM, Sean Paul newsandtraf...@aol.com wrote:

 I'm the same way. If I read in an RSS feed part of an article  it tells me 
 to continue reading, click, I move on. Unlike Styx, I don't have to much time 
 on my hands.
 - Original Message - From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 20:00
 Subject: RE: How to be blind episode 45
 
 
 Personally, if there is absolutely no description I just delete the message,
 my time is valuable and unless I know what I am going for I don't have time
 to just pop in and see what the article is about.  A brief synopsis would be
 most helpful so I'd know if it is something I would think spending the
 length of the cast worth my time.  I for example would not want to her an
 hour long podcast on At Bat as I am not a sports fan, only thing I want to
 know is if the diamondbacks won and Siri will tell me that.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Lauren Simmons
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45
 
 Donald,
 
 the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told
 you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete the
 message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for
 you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their
 website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when
 people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is
 how some do things.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45
 
 
 Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested
 persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of
 capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
 be Blind podcast!
 Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
 the show notes.
 Take care!
 http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/
 
 Mike
 
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RE: How to be blind episode 45

2013-04-29 Thread Lois Butterfield
In all fairness to Mike, it wouldn't have been possible to cover all
subjects in a short message.  It was an interesting and entertaining show.
I appreciated having the link.

Take care,
Lois

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

Donald,

the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told 
you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete the 
message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for 
you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their 
website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when 
people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is 
how some do things.

LS

- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45


 Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested 
 persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of 
 capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.

 Don Roberts


 On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
 be Blind podcast!
 Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
 the show notes.
 Take care!
 http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

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RE: How to be blind episode 45

2013-04-29 Thread Rose Combs
Personally, if there is absolutely no description I just delete the message,
my time is valuable and unless I know what I am going for I don't have time
to just pop in and see what the article is about.  A brief synopsis would be
most helpful so I'd know if it is something I would think spending the
length of the cast worth my time.  I for example would not want to her an
hour long podcast on At Bat as I am not a sports fan, only thing I want to
know is if the diamondbacks won and Siri will tell me that.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45

Donald,

the idea is to drive listers to the website. If the person would have told
you outright what the subject matter was then you would probably delete the
message. By giving you such little information and a link, the goal is for
you to be curious enough to click. At this point you are now on their
website and can read about their many other offerings. I don't like when
people do this as it makes me feel like I'm being manipulated, but this is
how some do things.

LS

- Original Message -
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: How to be blind episode 45


 Mike, Rather than post a generic message suggesting that interested 
 persons listen to the show, may I suggest that you place some sort of 
 capsule synopsis outlining the contents and the basics of the program.

 Don Roberts


 On 4/28/2013 5:41 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi everyone!
 A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to
 be Blind podcast!
 Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read
 the show notes.
 Take care!
 http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

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How to be blind episode 45

2013-04-28 Thread Mike
Hi everyone! 
A handful of us who belong to this list have released the newest How to be 
Blind podcast! 
Here is the link to the post where you can listen to the show and read the show 
notes. 
Take care! 
http://htb2.com/2013/04/28/episode-45-the-living-room-scorpion/

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