Re: IOS updates [was "RE: for Joshua"]
That's "why" I won't Update My XS MAX & its Not Too Old of an iOSDevice for Apple to DenySupport Don't Hate? Congratulate! At 07:36 PM 8/30/2020, you wrote: The reason Apple pushed out IOS 12.4.7 on May 20, 2020, is to support those devices that Apple still supports but which don't support IOS 13. The following page says that IOS 12.4.7 is available for iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, and iPod touch 6th generation. The iPhone XS is not listed. The only version of IOS listed for the XS is IOS 13. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Robin > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 9:03 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: for Joshua > > if "what" ya say IS True, then "why" Did Apple PushOut iOS SecurityUpdates to > Older iOSVersions Like iOS9 & iOS10 as well as iOS12, When their > (current) iteration of iOS IS iOS13? > Because of the PR i.e., SecurityBreaches to those Versions of iOS Don'tKnow > "why" You AppleFanBoyz Push Others to Update Their iOSDevices, & Hate on > Them when Doing so, Breaks "accessibility" For Them & They Criticize Apple for > its "Bugs" & Flaws" > i.e., the "Bugs" & "Flaws" of iOS8 & > MoreRecently iOS13, as Apple quickly Relased & PushedOut iOSUpdates within > 72Hours of the Relase of a NEW iPhone > > At 06:49 PM 8/30/2020, you wrote: > >Apple already aggressively pushes out updates to their devices, for > >example, within a few days of a release, you won't be able to roll back > >to a previous release. Plus they drop pushing out security updates once > >a newer release has been deployed. With the adoption rate Apple has > >with new releases, I doubt it would be a serious PR issue for them to > >stop providing customer support for a release that's been superseded by > >a newer release that's still getting security updates. Apple wouldn't > >be the first company to ask you to update to a newer version of > >software before providing you support. Sometimes this is legitimate, > >since newer versions of the software will contain fixes for issues > >being reported to customer support. . You may be able to stay on IOS > >12.4.1, but there's no guarantee that Apple will continue to provide > >customer support for an unsupported version of IOS. > > > >Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you staying on IOS > >12.4.1 as long as you want. > >My only reason for posting is to let others know that there's no > >obligation or guarantee from Apple to support 12.4.1 forever. Plus, > >anyone who stays on IOS 12.4.1 will be missing out on security patches > >and may not get support from app developers on 12.4.1. I'm totally on > >board with people having the right to choose, as long as they're given > >accurate information to make that choice. > > > >-- > >Christopher (AKA CJ) > >Chaltain at Gmail > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On > Behalf > > > Of Robin > > > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 4:04 PM > > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: RE: for Joshua > > > > > > Oh, but "They" Because I have AppleCare+ on > > it, & it would be a Bad PR Move > > > not to Support it. Pressuring a Consumer > > to Update a SoftwareVersion, which > > > "They" (Apple) deemed ReadyFor PublicRelease . It's MyRight, as a > > > Consumer Not to Update MyDevice'sSoftware & there isn't AnyWhere in > > > AppleCare+ that Sayz that I must, & I Called & CheckedWith Apple's > > > AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport, & "They" > > > indicated that I wouldn't Be Denied & that's that. > > > > > > At 08:33 AM 8/30/2020, you wrote: > > > >I'm not sure why you think Apple can't deny you telephone support > > > >for an older unsupported version of IOS. You may be getting > > > >telephone support for now, but I doubt it'll last forever. > > > >I'm pretty sure Apple isn't releasing security updates for 12.4.1 > > > >any more either. Plus there's nothing that says app developers have > > > >to continue to support 12.4.1. > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Christopher (AKA CJ) > > > >Chaltain at Gmail > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Robin > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:59 PM > > > > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > > > > Subject: Re: for Joshua > > > > > > > > > > Okay, Ms. Shirley > > > > >After I received Your MessagePosting, which AppearsBelow > > > > > this MessagePosting of Mine, I decided to Call Apple's > > > > > AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 877-204-3930, To InQuire > > > > > about "what" you said, & I was informed that I wouldn't Be > > > > > Denied TelephoneSupport from Apple's AppleAccessibility because > > > > > I refused to update My VZW XS MAX from > > > > > iOS12.4.1 to WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration. > > > > > > > > > > (I Presume) > > > > >
IOS updates [was "RE: for Joshua"]
The reason Apple pushed out IOS 12.4.7 on May 20, 2020, is to support those devices that Apple still supports but which don't support IOS 13. The following page says that IOS 12.4.7 is available for iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, and iPod touch 6th generation. The iPhone XS is not listed. The only version of IOS listed for the XS is IOS 13. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Robin > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 9:03 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: for Joshua > > if "what" ya say IS True, then "why" Did Apple PushOut iOS SecurityUpdates > to > Older iOSVersions Like iOS9 & iOS10 as well as iOS12, When their > (current) iteration of iOS IS iOS13? > Because of the PR i.e., SecurityBreaches to those Versions of iOS Don'tKnow > "why" You AppleFanBoyz Push Others to Update Their iOSDevices, & Hate on > Them when Doing so, Breaks "accessibility" For Them & They Criticize Apple for > its "Bugs" & Flaws" > i.e., the "Bugs" & "Flaws" of iOS8 & > MoreRecently iOS13, as Apple quickly Relased & PushedOut iOSUpdates within > 72Hours of the Relase of a NEW iPhone > > At 06:49 PM 8/30/2020, you wrote: > >Apple already aggressively pushes out updates to their devices, for > >example, within a few days of a release, you won't be able to roll back > >to a previous release. Plus they drop pushing out security updates once > >a newer release has been deployed. With the adoption rate Apple has > >with new releases, I doubt it would be a serious PR issue for them to > >stop providing customer support for a release that's been superseded by > >a newer release that's still getting security updates. Apple wouldn't > >be the first company to ask you to update to a newer version of > >software before providing you support. Sometimes this is legitimate, > >since newer versions of the software will contain fixes for issues > >being reported to customer support. . You may be able to stay on IOS > >12.4.1, but there's no guarantee that Apple will continue to provide > >customer support for an unsupported version of IOS. > > > >Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you staying on IOS > >12.4.1 as long as you want. > >My only reason for posting is to let others know that there's no > >obligation or guarantee from Apple to support 12.4.1 forever. Plus, > >anyone who stays on IOS 12.4.1 will be missing out on security patches > >and may not get support from app developers on 12.4.1. I'm totally on > >board with people having the right to choose, as long as they're given > >accurate information to make that choice. > > > >-- > >Christopher (AKA CJ) > >Chaltain at Gmail > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On > Behalf > > > Of Robin > > > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 4:04 PM > > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: RE: for Joshua > > > > > > Oh, but "They" Because I have AppleCare+ on > > it, & it would be a Bad PR Move > > > not to Support it. Pressuring a Consumer > > to Update a SoftwareVersion, which > > > "They" (Apple) deemed ReadyFor PublicRelease . It's MyRight, as a > > > Consumer Not to Update MyDevice'sSoftware & there isn't AnyWhere in > > > AppleCare+ that Sayz that I must, & I Called & CheckedWith Apple's > > > AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport, & "They" > > > indicated that I wouldn't Be Denied & that's that. > > > > > > At 08:33 AM 8/30/2020, you wrote: > > > >I'm not sure why you think Apple can't deny you telephone support > > > >for an older unsupported version of IOS. You may be getting > > > >telephone support for now, but I doubt it'll last forever. > > > >I'm pretty sure Apple isn't releasing security updates for 12.4.1 > > > >any more either. Plus there's nothing that says app developers have > > > >to continue to support 12.4.1. > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Christopher (AKA CJ) > > > >Chaltain at Gmail > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Robin > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:59 PM > > > > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > > > > Subject: Re: for Joshua > > > > > > > > > > Okay, Ms. Shirley > > > > >After I received Your MessagePosting, which AppearsBelow > > > > > this MessagePosting of Mine, I decided to Call Apple's > > > > > AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 877-204-3930, To InQuire > > > > > about "what" you said, & I was informed that I wouldn't Be > > > > > Denied TelephoneSupport from Apple's AppleAccessibility because > > > > > I refused to update My VZW XS MAX from > > > > > iOS12.4.1 to WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration. > > > > > > > > > > (I Presume) > > > > > it's because I didn't Update Past iOS12, > > > > as if I did "they" could say that the > > > > > BugFixes were Resolved in a Future iOS > > > > update of iOS13,
