RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
Sieghard GREAT tip, I tested i tand it worked! Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: woensdag 3 mei 2023 20:25 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? Davy, I have encountered apps like that and sometimes doing a one-finger tap and hold then swipe up works. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? I have even encountered a problem with an app called livestream2, this is an app for dab+ and wifi internet radios. With undok or this app, you can search fort he device, pair i tand manage it from your phone or ipad. When I search for DAB+ stations, voiceover tells me only 15 stations were found however more dan 190 are on the display. Then I have to put off voiceover, do a three finger sweep above, reload Voiceover and I can search through all the found items. Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: zaterdag 29 april 2023 23:28 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? No, but if you touch the vertical scrollbar on the right of the screen you can simply flick up or down with one finger. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? When I have encountered those lists, I found I have to touch ay item in the list on the left side of the screen to make sure VO is focused in the list; then do the three finger swipe up. If you touch where it says vertical scroll bar, the three finger swipe does nothing. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com> > wrote: Regarding my previous message, I should have also said that what I have tried to do is to flick up or down or left or right with three fingers, so as to try to move to a different page. It doesn't seem to work with trying to expand these lisits. I am beginning to think there might not be any other way though to get past those scrolling bars. Thank you for your help. On 4/29/23, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this extensive list than what I'm getting. This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I am just scrolling or browsing. How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTp%3DNrteyu04BnCfmNtQoQikUmEPVvr5jO8MSvy63pRrYw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important f
RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
Davy, I have encountered apps like that and sometimes doing a one-finger tap and hold then swipe up works. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? I have even encountered a problem with an app called livestream2, this is an app for dab+ and wifi internet radios. With undok or this app, you can search fort he device, pair i tand manage it from your phone or ipad. When I search for DAB+ stations, voiceover tells me only 15 stations were found however more dan 190 are on the display. Then I have to put off voiceover, do a three finger sweep above, reload Voiceover and I can search through all the found items. Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: zaterdag 29 april 2023 23:28 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? No, but if you touch the vertical scrollbar on the right of the screen you can simply flick up or down with one finger. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? When I have encountered those lists, I found I have to touch ay item in the list on the left side of the screen to make sure VO is focused in the list; then do the three finger swipe up. If you touch where it says vertical scroll bar, the three finger swipe does nothing. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com>> wrote: Regarding my previous message, I should have also said that what I have tried to do is to flick up or down or left or right with three fingers, so as to try to move to a different page. It doesn't seem to work with trying to expand these lisits. I am beginning to think there might not be any other way though to get past those scrolling bars. Thank you for your help. On 4/29/23, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this extensive list than what I'm getting. This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I am just scrolling or browsing. How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTp%3DNrteyu04BnCfmNtQoQikUmEPVvr5jO8MSvy63pRrYw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received thi
RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
I have even encountered a problem with an app called livestream2, this is an app for dab+ and wifi internet radios. With undok or this app, you can search fort he device, pair i tand manage it from your phone or ipad. When I search for DAB+ stations, voiceover tells me only 15 stations were found however more dan 190 are on the display. Then I have to put off voiceover, do a three finger sweep above, reload Voiceover and I can search through all the found items. Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: zaterdag 29 april 2023 23:28 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? No, but if you touch the vertical scrollbar on the right of the screen you can simply flick up or down with one finger. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? When I have encountered those lists, I found I have to touch ay item in the list on the left side of the screen to make sure VO is focused in the list; then do the three finger swipe up. If you touch where it says vertical scroll bar, the three finger swipe does nothing. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com> > wrote: Regarding my previous message, I should have also said that what I have tried to do is to flick up or down or left or right with three fingers, so as to try to move to a different page. It doesn't seem to work with trying to expand these lisits. I am beginning to think there might not be any other way though to get past those scrolling bars. Thank you for your help. On 4/29/23, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this extensive list than what I'm getting. This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I am just scrolling or browsing. How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTp%3DNrteyu04BnCfmNtQoQikUmEPVvr5jO8MSvy63pRrYw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubs
RE: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
No, but if you touch the vertical scrollbar on the right of the screen you can simply flick up or down with one finger. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2023 2:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more? When I have encountered those lists, I found I have to touch ay item in the list on the left side of the screen to make sure VO is focused in the list; then do the three finger swipe up. If you touch where it says vertical scroll bar, the three finger swipe does nothing. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com>> wrote: Regarding my previous message, I should have also said that what I have tried to do is to flick up or down or left or right with three fingers, so as to try to move to a different page. It doesn't seem to work with trying to expand these lisits. I am beginning to think there might not be any other way though to get past those scrolling bars. Thank you for your help. On 4/29/23, Tom Cramer mailto:tom.cram...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this extensive list than what I'm getting. This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I am just scrolling or browsing. How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTp%3DNrteyu04BnCfmNtQoQikUmEPVvr5jO8MSvy63pRrYw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DE56A545-D51D-4974-BAAE-B8BFDA2D05BA%40comcast.net<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DE56A545-D51D-4974-BAAE-B8BFDA2D05BA%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@g
Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
When I have encountered those lists, I found I have to touch ay item in the list on the left side of the screen to make sure VO is focused in the list; then do the three finger swipe up. If you touch where it says vertical scroll bar, the three finger swipe does nothing. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Tom Cramer wrote: > > Regarding my previous message, I should have also said that what I > have tried to do is to flick up or down or left or right with three > fingers, so as to try to move to a different page. It doesn't seem to > work with trying to expand these lisits. I am beginning to think there > might not be any other way though to get past those scrolling bars. > Thank you for your help. > >> On 4/29/23, Tom Cramer wrote: >> Hi, >> I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or >> specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more >> listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get >> something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage >> number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one >> finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I >> flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it >> moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this >> extensive list than what I'm getting. >> This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more >> extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I >> am just scrolling or browsing. >> How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? >> Tom >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTp%3DNrteyu04BnCfmNtQoQikUmEPVvr5jO8MSvy63pRrYw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DE56A545-D51D-4974-BAAE-B8BFDA2D05BA%40comcast.net.
Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
Regarding my previous message, I should have also said that what I have tried to do is to flick up or down or left or right with three fingers, so as to try to move to a different page. It doesn't seem to work with trying to expand these lisits. I am beginning to think there might not be any other way though to get past those scrolling bars. Thank you for your help. On 4/29/23, Tom Cramer wrote: > Hi, > I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or > specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more > listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get > something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage > number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one > finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I > flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it > moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this > extensive list than what I'm getting. > This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more > extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I > am just scrolling or browsing. > How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? > Tom > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTp%3DNrteyu04BnCfmNtQoQikUmEPVvr5jO8MSvy63pRrYw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
Three-finger swipe up to scroll down more. Or three-finger swipe left or right. On 4/29/2023 7:40 PM, Tom Cramer wrote: Hi, I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this extensive list than what I'm getting. This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I am just scrolling or browsing. How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/e6d1c045-2df5-31a5-4242-ed70491f6528%40iol.ie.
Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?
Hi, I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this extensive list than what I'm getting. This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I am just scrolling or browsing. How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTpVRPJj87HadA-3%2B_B3O5-v%2B2U7LDvKC4MRBe%3DcA-1TzA%40mail.gmail.com.