RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[Richard Turner]

It is only on newer phones.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major problem with latest iOS

So I have an Iphone 8. yesterday the phone updated to to IOS 14.6 on its own, I 
have since turned off automatic updates because I don't want it updating until 
I'm ready for it to do so.  Anyway, I went in to VO settings to turn off screen 
recognition because I wanted to avoid any of the app issues discussed in this 
thread with my apps. But I could not find this setting anywhere. Is this only a 
setting that is available for newer phones?  If not then where is the setting 
on an iphone 8?  

> On Jun 14, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> No need to hide it if you can simply turn it off. I have 1 app where 
> Voiceover reads absolutely nothing without screen recognition and where with 
> screen recognition I can use the app fairly well so it does have its uses, 
> but it is definitely best to make sure all apps are deselected so you can 
> just enable this via the rotor in a particular app. If you find you have no 
> need for it at all just turn it off and remove it from the rotor and it's 
> done, it's effectively hidden.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 7:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Major problem with latest iOS
> 
> I really blame Apple for that feature which is really still at the beginners 
> stage and has never been developed and looked after seriously. I hope in the 
> next update Apple stops or hides this feature there are too few cases in 
> which the feature comes in handy and in most cases ik causes many many 
> problems.
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Tim Leet
> Verzonden: vrijdag 11 juni 2021 17:34
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Major problem with latest iOS
> 
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
> 
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Barbara Stahl]

So I have an Iphone 8. yesterday the phone updated to to IOS 14.6 on its own, I 
have since turned off automatic updates because I don't want it updating until 
I'm ready for it to do so.  Anyway, I went in to VO settings to turn off screen 
recognition because I wanted to avoid any of the app issues discussed in this 
thread with my apps. But I could not find this setting anywhere. Is this only a 
setting that is available for newer phones?  If not then where is the setting 
on an iphone 8?  

> On Jun 14, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> No need to hide it if you can simply turn it off. I have 1 app where 
> Voiceover reads absolutely nothing without screen recognition and where with 
> screen recognition I can use the app fairly well so it does have its uses, 
> but it is definitely best to make sure all apps are deselected so you can 
> just enable this via the rotor in a particular app. If you find you have no 
> need for it at all just turn it off and remove it from the rotor and it's 
> done, it's effectively hidden.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 7:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Major problem with latest iOS
> 
> I really blame Apple for that feature which is really still at the beginners 
> stage and has never been developed and looked after seriously. I hope in the 
> next update Apple stops or hides this feature there are too few cases in 
> which the feature comes in handy and in most cases ik causes many many 
> problems.
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Tim Leet
> Verzonden: vrijdag 11 juni 2021 17:34
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Major problem with latest iOS
> 
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
> 
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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No need to hide it if you can simply turn it off. I have 1 app where Voiceover 
reads absolutely nothing without screen recognition and where with screen 
recognition I can use the app fairly well so it does have its uses, but it is 
definitely best to make sure all apps are deselected so you can just enable 
this via the rotor in a particular app. If you find you have no need for it at 
all just turn it off and remove it from the rotor and it's done, it's 
effectively hidden.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Major problem with latest iOS

I really blame Apple for that feature which is really still at the beginners 
stage and has never been developed and looked after seriously. I hope in the 
next update Apple stops or hides this feature there are too few cases in which 
the feature comes in handy and in most cases ik causes many many problems.
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Tim Leet
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 juni 2021 17:34
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Major problem with latest iOS

Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[CHELA Robles]

Well this must be head on later iPhones not mine, I own an 8+ so I don’t have 
to deal with that feature and if it is available for iPhone 8+, I know now what 
to avoid.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:41 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I really blame Apple for that feature which is really still at the beginners 
> stage and has never been developed and looked after seriously. I hope in the 
> next update Apple stops or hides this feature there are too few cases in 
> which the feature comes in handy and in most cases ik causes many many 
> problems.
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Tim Leet
> Verzonden: vrijdag 11 juni 2021 17:34
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Major problem with latest iOS
> 
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
> 
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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[davycuppens]

I really blame Apple for that feature which is really still at the beginners 
stage and has never been developed and looked after seriously. I hope in the 
next update Apple stops or hides this feature there are too few cases in which 
the feature comes in handy and in most cases ik causes many many problems.
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Tim Leet
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 juni 2021 17:34
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Major problem with latest iOS

Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[CHELA Robles]

That’s exactly what customer service from Aira suggested, if you still have 
issues with connecting to Aira for example after troubleshooting this, with 
that fix, call or email the Aira customer care.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just tested this and if I go into Voiceover Settings > Voice Recognition > 
> Screen Recognition and deselect the apps for which screen recognition is on, 
> then close all apps in the apps witcher and turn the phone off, then wait 
> maybe 30 seconds and turn it back on all was back to normal.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2021 7:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Major problem with latest iOS
>  
> I agree.  I tested and retested to try and produce there results the only way 
> you will get these results if like you said it is set on for that app.  It 
> isn‘t hard to fix.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 4:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Major problem with latest iOS
>  
> And if you & others turn off screen recognition like I suggest, by going into 
> the app switcher, rather than trying to turn screen recognition off within 
> the app, Aira & other apps will work just fine once again. Refuse to try my 
> suggestion, your loss being stuck with unusable apps.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
>  Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
> nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will 
> not work
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
> screen curtain.
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
>  
> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
> someone to review the screen it is completely black
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> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
> not to accidentally turn it on again.
> Matthew
>  
> 
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why can you not turn it off?
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>  
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
> 
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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just tested this and if I go into Voiceover Settings > Voice Recognition > 
Screen Recognition and deselect the apps for which screen recognition is on, 
then close all apps in the apps witcher and turn the phone off, then wait maybe 
30 seconds and turn it back on all was back to normal.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2021 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Major problem with latest iOS

I agree.  I tested and retested to try and produce there results the only way 
you will get these results if like you said it is set on for that app.  It 
isn‘t hard to fix.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major problem with latest iOS

And if you & others turn off screen recognition like I suggest, by going into 
the app switcher, rather than trying to turn screen recognition off within the 
app, Aira & other apps will work just fine once again. Refuse to try my 
suggestion, your loss being stuck with unusable apps.

Donna


 Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will not 
work
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen 
mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
screen curtain.

Donna



I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs there 
is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because the screen 
is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless you can’t do 
anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask someone to 
review the screen it is completely black
If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents
Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr

On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis 
mailto:matthewbulli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor to 
screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as not to 
accidentally turn it on again.
Matthew


On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater 
mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Why can you not turn it off?
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com<mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet 
mailto:tel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[Dennis Long]

I agree.  I tested and retested to try and produce there results the only way 
you will get these results if like you said it is set on for that app.  It 
isn‘t hard to fix.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major problem with latest iOS

 

And if you & others turn off screen recognition like I suggest, by going into 
the app switcher, rather than trying to turn screen recognition off within the 
app, Aira & other apps will work just fine once again. Refuse to try my 
suggestion, your loss being stuck with unusable apps.

 

Donna

 

 

 Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will not 
work

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
screen curtain.

 

Donna

 

 

 

I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs there 
is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because the screen 
is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless you can’t do 
anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask someone to 
review the screen it is completely black

If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 

Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821

Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly 

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 





On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis mailto:matthewbulli...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor to 
screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as not to 
accidentally turn it on again.

Matthew

 


On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Why can you not turn it off?


Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet mailto:tel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[teleet]

It did not work for us we tried that.  Even the Apple support person told us it 
was not showing up to him when he did the screen share and we turned off voice 
over.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Major problem with latest iOS

 

When this happened with me last night with the NBA app, the screen appeared 
completely blank when I was exploring it with VoiceOver, but my sighted wife 
said everything looked completely normal to her. In other words, the screen 
wasn’t blank to a sighted user, and voiceOver’s screen curtain wasn’t turned 
on. It’s true that I couldn’t turn off screen recognition while I was in the 
NBA app but I could do it when in the App Switcher, as Donna has pointed out. 
This is what got this app working for me again, so I could listen to the Bucks 
and then the Jazz. 

 

 

 

--

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim 
Leet
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Major problem with latest iOS

 

 Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will not 
work

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
screen curtain.

 

Donna

 

 

 

I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs there 
is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because the screen 
is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless you can’t do 
anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask someone to 
review the screen it is completely black

If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 

Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821

Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly 

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 

 

On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis mailto:matthewbulli...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor to 
screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as not to 
accidentally turn it on again.

Matthew

 


On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Why can you not turn it off?


Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet mailto:tel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

When this happened with me last night with the NBA app, the screen appeared 
completely blank when I was exploring it with VoiceOver, but my sighted wife 
said everything looked completely normal to her. In other words, the screen 
wasn’t blank to a sighted user, and voiceOver’s screen curtain wasn’t turned 
on. It’s true that I couldn’t turn off screen recognition while I was in the 
NBA app but I could do it when in the App Switcher, as Donna has pointed out. 
This is what got this app working for me again, so I could listen to the Bucks 
and then the Jazz.



--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim Leet
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major problem with latest iOS

 Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will not 
work
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen 
mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
screen curtain.

Donna



I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs there 
is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because the screen 
is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless you can’t do 
anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask someone to 
review the screen it is completely black
If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents
Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr


On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis 
mailto:matthewbulli...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor to 
screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as not to 
accidentally turn it on again.
Matthew


On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater 
mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Why can you not turn it off?
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com<mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/



On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet 
mailto:tel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[Shirley Tracy]

Yes, after the last update my screen shade was on. I didn’t realize it at first, because I don’t often turn it on. I don’t know why an upgrade would turn it on, but for some reason it did.  Shirley Tracy From: Donna CasteenSent: Friday, June 11, 2021 12:31 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Major problem with latest iOS If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off screen curtain. Donna   I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask someone to review the screen it is completely blackIf you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several giveaways monthly https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as not to accidentally turn it on again.Matthew On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:Why can you not turn it off?Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.comgemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/   On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet <tel...@gmail.com> wrote:Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1A49C5F3-DA37-4286-95A0-C641A0E79CA7%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAGJxbF46%2BBSyBOYFvRf1h_S_Dh7fu3iUR4%3Ddjv0OxQeWy%3D2%3Ddw%40mail.gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can 

Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Donna Casteen]

And if you & others turn off screen recognition like I suggest, by going into 
the app switcher, rather than trying to turn screen recognition off within the 
app, Aira & other apps will work just fine once again. Refuse to try my 
suggestion, your loss being stuck with unusable apps.

Donna

> 
>  Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
> nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will 
> not work
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
>> screen curtain.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
>>> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
>>> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
>>> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
>>> someone to review the screen it is completely black
>>> 
>>> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you 
>>> or your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
>>> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
>>> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
>>> several giveaways monthly 
>>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 
>>> 
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
> wrote:
> 
 
 If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the 
 rotor to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away 
 so as not to accidentally turn it on again.
 Matthew
 
 
 On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
 
 Why can you not turn it off?
 Devin Prater
 r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
 gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
 
 
 
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of 
> the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I 
> was in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back 
> up through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and 
> send a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having 
> problems with any app not opening to please contact them and let them 
> know about it so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having 
> difficulty with an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned 
> screen recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it 
> will not load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn 
> screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that 
> you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this 
> happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
> 
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Tim Leet]

Thanks, however even when you do that and reinstall the app even if it is off 
once the app does not work there’s no way to get it to work again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> 
> You can go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, then VoicOver Recognition, 
> and in the screen recognition section is a list of apps. You can turn screen 
> recognition off for an app here.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:24 AM Dana Leet  wrote:
>> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
>> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
>> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
>> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
>> someone to review the screen it is completely black
>> 
>> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
>> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
>> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
>> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
>> several giveaways monthly 
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>> 
 On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
>>> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
>>> not to accidentally turn it on again.
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why can you not turn it off?
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
 Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
 currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
 open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of 
 the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I 
 was in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back 
 up through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and 
 send a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having 
 problems with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know 
 about it so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having 
 difficulty with an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned 
 screen recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it 
 will not load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn 
 screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that 
 you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this 
 happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
 
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Tim Leet]

 Doesn’t matter if the screen curtain is on or off the screen is still black 
nothing is there doesn’t matter what you do when this happens the app will not 
work

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
> screen curtain.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
>> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
>> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
>> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
>> someone to review the screen it is completely black
>> 
>> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
>> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
>> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
>> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
>> several giveaways monthly 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 
>> 
 On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
>>> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
>>> not to accidentally turn it on again.
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why can you not turn it off?
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
 Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
 currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
 open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of 
 the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I 
 was in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back 
 up through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and 
 send a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having 
 problems with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know 
 about it so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having 
 difficulty with an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned 
 screen recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it 
 will not load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn 
 screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that 
 you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this 
 happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
 
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Devin Prater]

You can go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, then
VoicOver Recognition, and in the screen recognition section is a list of
apps. You can turn screen recognition off for an app here.
Devin Prater
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:24 AM Dana Leet  wrote:

> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs
> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because
> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless
> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask
> someone to review the screen it is completely black
>
> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you
> or your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents
> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have
> several giveaways monthly
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr
>
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis 
> wrote:
>
> 
> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the
> rotor to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away
> so as not to accidentally turn it on again.
> Matthew
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> 
> Why can you not turn it off?
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
>
>> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I
>> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to
>> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of
>> the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was
>> in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up
>> through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send
>> a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems
>> with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it
>> so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with
>> an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen
>> recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it will not
>> load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn screen
>> recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that you turned
>> it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this happens.
>> Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
>>
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Donna Casteen]

With the problem apps in the app switcher, place voiceover focus on the app, 
turn the rotor to screen recognition, flick to turn off screen recognition, tap 
to open the app. I am not having any trouble using Aira. IOS 14.6, most recent 
update to Aira.

Donna
 
> 
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Donna Casteen]

If your screen is black, use 3 fingers & tap the screen 3 times, to turn off 
screen curtain.

Donna


> 
> I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs 
> there is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because 
> the screen is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless 
> you can’t do anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask 
> someone to review the screen it is completely black
> 
> If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
> your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
> Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
> Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have 
> several giveaways monthly 
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 
> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
>> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
>> not to accidentally turn it on again.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Why can you not turn it off?
>> Devin Prater
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
>>> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
>>> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
>>> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of 
>>> the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was 
>>> in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up 
>>> through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send 
>>> a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems 
>>> with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it 
>>> so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with 
>>> an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen 
>>> recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it will not 
>>> load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn screen 
>>> recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that you turned 
>>> it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. 
>>> Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Dana Leet]

I think what everybody is failing to realize is when this problem occurs there 
is no evidence of screen recognition in the rotor whatsoever because the screen 
is 1000% completely blank meaning your app is completely useless you can’t do 
anything with it whatsoever as nothing speaks and when you ask someone to 
review the screen it is completely black

If you love wax melts, soap, bath and body items and anything to make you or 
your house smell wonderful visit my site for soy L Scents 
Http://www.my-soylscents.com/Dandi0821
Also join my Facebook group we will play awesome games and I will have several 
giveaways monthly 
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1442152382752404?_rdr 

> On Jun 11, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Bullis  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor 
> to screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as 
> not to accidentally turn it on again.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why can you not turn it off?
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
>> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
>> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to 
>> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
>> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
>> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
>> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
>> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
>> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they 
>> can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app 
>> she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to 
>> try to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the 
>> best advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do 
>> you may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
>> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
>> problems need to let Apple know.
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

[Matthew Bullis]

If you're in an app which has screen recognition turned on, twist the rotor to 
screen recognition and flick down to turn it off. Then twist away so as not to 
accidentally turn it on again.
Matthew


On Jun 11, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:


Why can you not turn it off?
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:
> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
> these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the 
> reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in 
> the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through 
> iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket 
> to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any 
> app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can 
> try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she 
> downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try 
> to figure out something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best 
> advice I could give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you 
> may not be able to use the app that you turned it on with because you 
> definitely can’t turn it off once this happens. Again anyone having these 
> problems need to let Apple know.
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Re: Major problem with latest iOS

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Why can you not turn it off?
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:33 AM Tim Leet  wrote:

> Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I
> currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to
> open these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of
> the reasons for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was
> in the app the other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up
> through iTunes, called Apple and they did a screen share and video and send
> a ticket to the tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems
> with any app not opening to please contact them and let them know about it
> so they can try to find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with
> an app she downloaded yesterday it was working she turned screen
> recognition on to try to figure out something in the app and it will not
> load anymore. So the best advice I could give you is do not turn screen
> recognition on if you do you may not be able to use the app that you turned
> it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off once this happens.
> Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.
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Major problem with latest iOS

[Tim Leet]

Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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