Nice try Alex,

but as I have said, this list is not for the purpose of advertising other sites 
at the expense of VIPhone. I.E. Rather than encouraging people to post to 
AppleVis rather than to this list is simply using this list to promote AppleVis 
and that sort of thing, as you already know, is not welcome here.

People are more than welcome to seek info wherever they choose and both 
AppleVis and this list are two such places to find such information. The point 
here is to give equal time to each of the various information sources, not to 
have one over the other.

So please, this is a friendly warning to you. Do not do this again here on this 
list. AppleVis is a valuable resource and I would hope that the staff there 
view this list equally so.

Have a great day...

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On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

If you want to cut down on the amount of redundant guides posted to this list, 
and more importantly the amount of time spent writing such guides, what about 
this? Most of us are aware of and use www.applevis.com. If you have a helpful 
guide or tutorial, simply post it to that website. Then, whenever a message 
comes up asking how to do something you've already written about, you need only 
send along that link. This lets everyone save time by not re-writing the same 
guides, plus it makes said guides easier to find for people who might be 
searching the internet instead of using this specific list. Plus, AppleVis is 
always happy to have more information. <smile>
On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Pinky <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
> You need to lighten up some and not be so critical. You have to realize that
> there are many people on this list and new people coming on the list.  Also
> there are many of us old farts that don't always understand some of these
> things the first time we read them. So if someone post another email
> explaining how they do something that might just help new members on the
> list or old farts like me that learn very slow.  I appreciate all of the
> example or info other people give as I might not understand everything on
> one person's email but then on another person's email I might understand
> there example better.  So don't complain when someone else gives there
> example how they do something compared to how you do it. Just remember when
> you started out learning something new it took a while to understand and
> learn all the slang and operating systems.  When you get old like me and
> learning new things you will know what us old farts are talking about.  Also
> just for your info I have been learning Jaws, Zoomtext, IOS and other things
> as my vision has now been going down as to where I cannot see much on the
> screen and had to learn all these programs and operating systems on my own.
> 
> So have a good day.
> 
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 12:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
> 
> LOL. Noe, you're completely wrong about the other day. I posted the link for
> the sake of the list and not just that person. And really, whose going to go
> out of their way to do what you suggested when it appears it is much easier
> to post a request essentially asking someone else to do it for the person
> interested. In short, I probably prevented a few posts asking for
> clarification on how to delete and enter new country characters for the
> iTunes store.
> 
> Regarding reading messages, I'm not stating one study each message, but I'm
> suggesting maybe people should quickly scan them for information they might
> find useful now or in the near future. this simple step is very easily and
> quickly done and can cut down on many often unnecessary duplicate posts.
> 
> Sorry, but I'm definitely Type A and am endlessly hopeful others will adopt
> the same mindset for simple tasks as they relate to this list.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:04 AM
> Subject: RE: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
> 
> 
> Hi Joseph,
> 
> You are not wrong, but maybe not everybody has time to go through every
> single post on this list and given the high traffic and how sometimes
> subjects don't always reflect how a thread can move away from the original
> subject one can simply miss a post here and there.
> 
> Also, and I mean no offense, you just a few days ago posted a link to a
> English-French dictionary which Ann Roberts had posted. Ann posted the name
> of the app, the developer as well as the link from the French app store as
> she is from France. She also correctly pointed out that one only has to
> replace the "fr" in the link with "US" to view the same app on the US app
> store; in short, all the information required was there for anybody to find
> this app. However, you posted a message right afterwards with the US app
> store link which, in my opinion, also was redundant. I know you probably
> don't like to hear that since it appears you take any sort of criticism as a
> personal insult, but fair is fair and while what you said about posting he
> same information is true, simply posting this information doesn't really
> contribute either *smile*.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joseph FreeTech
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
> 
> Hi Teresa,
> 
> Though your post is useful and well written, I wrote the very same type of
> tutorial just a week or two ago. <Smile>. It seems as though many of us are
> not using our time and this forum wisely if we're going to repeatedly post
> the same information. So far, it appears many are deleting messages without
> even quickly browsing through them for possibly useful information. If this
> is in fact what is happening, then the individuals doing this will miss out
> on great information as well as cluttering the list with redundant requests.
> 
> Am I wrong?
> 
> If you're curious, here's what I wrote on the topic of using a Bluetooth
> keyboard to move apps between home pages as well as into folders... <Smile>.
> 
> For those interested in using an external Bluetooth keyboard to move apps,
> when lucky and all works as it should, here's what I'm doing to move my apps
> around:
> 
> 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is
> paired.
> Note: for whatever reason, my Amazon Basics keyboard takes about 25 seconds
> to be recognized by iDevice Bluetooth. (Shrug).
> 
> 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on
> the app I want to move.
> 
> 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get
> the message informing me that I'm moving X app.
> 
> 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to
> Home screen 1.
> Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen
> and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably
> do the job.
> 
> 5. I move my app on top of the folder where I want to place the app, and I
> once again execute the following command: VO+Shift+letter M.
> 
> 6. My iDevice and VoiceOver begin sounding off all kinds of bells and
> whistles while they do their thing, and when I no longer hear anything, I
> swipe to right a couple of times.
> 
> 7. I press the Home button once on my iDevice to return screen back to
> normal.
> 
> 8. I swipe over to the bottom of the list of apps, and sure enough the app I
> moved is there.
> 
> 9. I execute the scrub gesture to close the folder, and I'm eventually
> informed that the app count has increased, which once again assures me the
> app has been moved.
> 
> 10. All done moving app. <Smile>.
> 
> For those wanting to move an app from Home screen X to Home screen Y without
> accidentally creating an unwanted folder, try this...
> 1. My iDevice (iPod Touch 5th gen) is turned on and my Bluetooth keyboard is
> paired.
> 
> 2. I use the touch screen to navigate to Home screen 3 and place focus on
> the app I want to move.
> 
> 3. I press the following command on the keyboard: VO+Shift+letter M. I get
> the message informing me that I'm moving X app.
> 
> 4. I use 3-finger gesture on the touch screen to move from Home screen 3 to
> Home screen 1.
> Note: sometimes this does not work, so I simply go to bottom of the screen
> and swipe up to move from page 3 to page 1, and this does seem to reliably
> do the job.
> 
> 5. Since the keyboard will not allow for placing an app between two apps
> like the touch interface allows, I simply move my app on top of the app
> where I want to position the app, and I once again execute the following
> command: VO+Shift+letter M.
> 
> 6. I'm told a new folder will be created with X title.
> 
> 7. I simply press Escape key once on the keyboard to cancel the folder
> creation process.
> 
> 8. I swipe to the right a couple of times then press the Home button once to
> return the focus back to normal.
> 
> 9. I touch the bottom left-hand corner of the screen then swipe to the left
> to access the very last app on the current Home screen.
> 
> 10. If all went well the app will have been moved from Home screen 3 to Home
> screen 1 without extraneous folders having been created. (thumbs up)!
> 
> Joseph the free tech guy!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Teresa Cochran" <batsfly...@me.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:39 AM
> Subject: Here's How to Move Apps Into a Folder With a Bluetooth Keyboard
> 
> 
> Hi, all,
> I've done this several times reliably, so I'm going to outline it here,
> since there's been some discussion of it in recent threads.
> 
> Turn on VO sounds. This will make it easier to detect audio feedback while
> moving. Find the app you want to move. Press VO-shift-M. Voiceover will say
> "moving" and the name of the app. Use the arrow keys to move the app. VO
> will announce your position and say "is editing". Go to the page indicator.
> It's easiest to use the up and down arrow keys instead of option-arrows to
> move from page to page. I haven't been able to get the second method to work
> 
> while in edit mode.
> 
> Once you get to a folder, simply press the VO-shift-M command again. VO will
> 
> say "opening folder" and the name of the folder. Now your app should be
> nside the folder you've specified.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
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