Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display
Hello, all. I am experiencing a rather embarrassing problem. When trying to read from the Bible aloud at church, I am finding that there seems to be no current solution that keeps me from stumbling in my reading. Let me briefly explain the situation. I am an excellent Braille reader using a Brailliant display with IOS 9.3. I have the Bible from Life Church and have tried reading from it. What I find is that often, there are only two or three Braille words on a line, and sometimes only one word, which means that I have to hit the panning button again and this makes me read rather awkwardly. I had a sighted friend check yesterday, and the screen has a full line of text. Yet, whether using Braille or just flicking right with VoiceOver, often there are only one or two words that appear. I have tried downloading Bibles from Bookshare, but they all seem to have footnote indicators or the footnotes themselves, which again makes my reading very choppy. I have a Bible from IBooks, but it takes forever to load this and to search on my iPhone 6 with 16 gb. What I am looking for is a simple way to read the Bible aloud from Braille where the line is full except for when there are paragraph changes. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give. Keith -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display
Keith, Not an answer for the immediate future, but later this year, if all promises prove true, we should have a choice between at least two different full-page refreshable braille displays.The first one is from M I T University (I think I have that right) which they are calling a kind of braille kindle. The second is called BLtab. both claim that their products will be much cheaper than existing Braille displays. I have been following the quest for the holy Braille for some years now, but, finally, I think we might actually have got there! so, watch this space! Good luck, Sandy Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Mar 2016, at 16:07, Keith Bundy wrote: > > Hello, all. I am experiencing a rather embarrassing problem. When trying to > read from the Bible aloud at church, I am finding that there seems to be no > current solution that keeps me from stumbling in my reading. > > Let me briefly explain the situation. I am an excellent Braille reader using > a Brailliant display with IOS 9.3. I have the Bible from Life Church and have > tried reading from it. What I find is that often, there are only two or three > Braille words on a line, and sometimes only one word, which means that I have > to hit the panning button again and this makes me read rather awkwardly. I > had a sighted friend check yesterday, and the screen has a full line of text. > Yet, whether using Braille or just flicking right with VoiceOver, often there > are only one or two words that appear. > > I have tried downloading Bibles from Bookshare, but they all seem to have > footnote indicators or the footnotes themselves, which again makes my reading > very choppy. I have a Bible from IBooks, but it takes forever to load this > and to search on my iPhone 6 with 16 gb. > > What I am looking for is a simple way to read the Bible aloud from Braille > where the line is full except for when there are paragraph changes. Does > anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give. > > Keith > > > > -- > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display
Regarding that first one, the so-called braille Kindle, forget that for mobile use. I just heard an update about that, an interview on blind bargains audio. It's going to be big something you would use on a desktop. And it's not really made for use with a screen reader either. So, won't be any good for what you are talking about. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 25, 2016, at 9:20 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Keith, > Not an answer for the immediate future, but later this year, if all promises > prove true, we should have a choice between at least two different full-page > refreshable braille displays.The first one is from M I T University (I think > I have that right) which they are calling a kind of braille kindle. The > second is called BLtab. both claim that their products will be much cheaper > than existing Braille displays. I have been following the quest for the holy > Braille for some years now, but, finally, I think we might actually have got > there! so, watch this space! > Good luck, Sandy > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 25 Mar 2016, at 16:07, Keith Bundy wrote: >> >> Hello, all. I am experiencing a rather embarrassing problem. When trying to >> read from the Bible aloud at church, I am finding that there seems to be no >> current solution that keeps me from stumbling in my reading. >> >> Let me briefly explain the situation. I am an excellent Braille reader using >> a Brailliant display with IOS 9.3. I have the Bible from Life Church and >> have tried reading from it. What I find is that often, there are only two or >> three Braille words on a line, and sometimes only one word, which means that >> I have to hit the panning button again and this makes me read rather >> awkwardly. I had a sighted friend check yesterday, and the screen has a full >> line of text. Yet, whether using Braille or just flicking right with >> VoiceOver, often there are only one or two words that appear. >> >> I have tried downloading Bibles from Bookshare, but they all seem to have >> footnote indicators or the footnotes themselves, which again makes my >> reading very choppy. I have a Bible from IBooks, but it takes forever to >> load this and to search on my iPhone 6 with 16 gb. >> >> What I am looking for is a simple way to read the Bible aloud from Braille >> where the line is full except for when there are paragraph changes. Does >> anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give. >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display
Hi, Sandi. I look forward to getting my hands on one of these displays. It will give much greater convenience, especially if it works with a screen reader and is mobile. I'm a little disappointed about the Braille Kindle thing being more of a desktop machine and not working with a screen reader, but, hey, we're making progress at least! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display
Hi, Have you tried (where there are a number of consecutive pannings with just one or two words across, say), quickly panning down a number of lines? The display may then ‘catch up’ with your panning, going down by itself but allowing you to read with more consistency. (I know that this is the case on screens which also have pictures: I’ve a Focus14 Blue, which sometimes can’t go fast enough through the screen; so I found that doing the above helped me read the braille faster.) That may not be your problem exactly, but could give you some ideas for further experimentation. From: Keith Bundy Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 4:07 PM To: viphone Subject: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display Hello, all. I am experiencing a rather embarrassing problem. When trying to read from the Bible aloud at church, I am finding that there seems to be no current solution that keeps me from stumbling in my reading. Let me briefly explain the situation. I am an excellent Braille reader using a Brailliant display with IOS 9.3. I have the Bible from Life Church and have tried reading from it. What I find is that often, there are only two or three Braille words on a line, and sometimes only one word, which means that I have to hit the panning button again and this makes me read rather awkwardly. I had a sighted friend check yesterday, and the screen has a full line of text. Yet, whether using Braille or just flicking right with VoiceOver, often there are only one or two words that appear. I have tried downloading Bibles from Bookshare, but they all seem to have footnote indicators or the footnotes themselves, which again makes my reading very choppy. I have a Bible from IBooks, but it takes forever to load this and to search on my iPhone 6 with 16 gb. What I am looking for is a simple way to read the Bible aloud from Braille where the line is full except for when there are paragraph changes. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give. Keith -- -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display
Thanks, Flor. This is something I had not thought of doing, and I am already thinking of various ways to work with this idea. I sincerely appreciate this thought. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.