Re: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices
Richard. That's exactly what I just recommended for a client I'm working with. He seems happy with the combination, though juggling devices can get a bit tricky. But he loves the qwerty version of the Braille Sense, as many of it's commands are very similar to Windows, which is where he was at until this note taker. That's probably about the only instance where I would have recommended that combination, I think more people will be happy with the BT, but that's not necissarily a discussion for this list. Smiles. Scott On 11/15/12, Richard Turner wrote: > Yes, the BT version is great. So, no combination of the function key and > some other key with the letter E will do what the space+e does on the BT > version? That is too bad. > Most blue tooth keyboards made for the Apple devices have a designated > button to hide and unhide the virtual keyboard. > > So, it sounds like someone with the QWERTY BrailleSense will be better off > having a separate blue tooth keyboard for entering text and issuing > commands > and use the braille for output only. > > Thanks for testing, > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Scott Davert > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices > > I don't see a way to do this from the BSU2 qwerty. Best advice I can give > is > to use the one on the virtual keyboard on the touch screen. If the virtual > keyboard is hidden, best of luck getting it unhidden, as there is no touch > screen command for this and I don't think anyone knows of a command in > conjunction with the function key to accomplish this. > This is certainly not something that's ready for prime time. The BT version > works fine though. Sadly, who knows if it'll be fixed, since most of this > is > something that will need to be resolved on Apple's end. > > Scott > > On 11/14/12, Richard Turner wrote: >> So, how do you put in a hard return when writing in a document, or >> Email, etc? >> Richard >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Scott Davert >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:28 PM >> To: viphone >> Subject: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices >> >> HI all. >> SO I rebooted both the phone and Braille Sense, and am now able to >> type using the standard keyboard. It's also importnat to note, as was >> done earlier on one list, that you must have contractions turned off >> on the iDevice. However, the backspace key and enter key do not work. >> Also, the function key with H, instead of space with H, will actually >> go in to the app switcher. I thought that perhaps this meant some >> consistency in the sense that you could sort of use the function key >> in place of the spacebar, but no. When I press function with M, it >> mutes speech like other wireless keyboards do when using the command >> VO plus M, but it also activates the home button. Function with S also >> activates the home button, after briefly taking you up to the status bar. >> The scrol buttons work as they should, but instead of the left and >> right arrows moveing across the screen, they actually activate the >> current rotor setting. Instead, the up and down arrow keys move left >> to right across the screen. >> >> Hope this info is helpful, >> Scott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > Group. >
RE: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices
Yes, the BT version is great. So, no combination of the function key and some other key with the letter E will do what the space+e does on the BT version? That is too bad. Most blue tooth keyboards made for the Apple devices have a designated button to hide and unhide the virtual keyboard. So, it sounds like someone with the QWERTY BrailleSense will be better off having a separate blue tooth keyboard for entering text and issuing commands and use the braille for output only. Thanks for testing, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices I don't see a way to do this from the BSU2 qwerty. Best advice I can give is to use the one on the virtual keyboard on the touch screen. If the virtual keyboard is hidden, best of luck getting it unhidden, as there is no touch screen command for this and I don't think anyone knows of a command in conjunction with the function key to accomplish this. This is certainly not something that's ready for prime time. The BT version works fine though. Sadly, who knows if it'll be fixed, since most of this is something that will need to be resolved on Apple's end. Scott On 11/14/12, Richard Turner wrote: > So, how do you put in a hard return when writing in a document, or > Email, etc? > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Scott Davert > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:28 PM > To: viphone > Subject: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices > > HI all. > SO I rebooted both the phone and Braille Sense, and am now able to > type using the standard keyboard. It's also importnat to note, as was > done earlier on one list, that you must have contractions turned off > on the iDevice. However, the backspace key and enter key do not work. > Also, the function key with H, instead of space with H, will actually > go in to the app switcher. I thought that perhaps this meant some > consistency in the sense that you could sort of use the function key > in place of the spacebar, but no. When I press function with M, it > mutes speech like other wireless keyboards do when using the command > VO plus M, but it also activates the home button. Function with S also > activates the home button, after briefly taking you up to the status bar. > The scrol buttons work as they should, but instead of the left and > right arrows moveing across the screen, they actually activate the > current rotor setting. Instead, the up and down arrow keys move left > to right across the screen. > > Hope this info is helpful, > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices
I don't see a way to do this from the BSU2 qwerty. Best advice I can give is to use the one on the virtual keyboard on the touch screen. If the virtual keyboard is hidden, best of luck getting it unhidden, as there is no touch screen command for this and I don't think anyone knows of a command in conjunction with the function key to accomplish this. This is certainly not something that's ready for prime time. The BT version works fine though. Sadly, who knows if it'll be fixed, since most of this is something that will need to be resolved on Apple's end. Scott On 11/14/12, Richard Turner wrote: > So, how do you put in a hard return when writing in a document, or Email, > etc? > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Scott Davert > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:28 PM > To: viphone > Subject: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices > > HI all. > SO I rebooted both the phone and Braille Sense, and am now able to type > using the standard keyboard. It's also importnat to note, as was done > earlier on one list, that you must have contractions turned off on the > iDevice. However, the backspace key and enter key do not work. > Also, the function key with H, instead of space with H, will actually go in > to the app switcher. I thought that perhaps this meant some consistency in > the sense that you could sort of use the function key in place of the > spacebar, but no. When I press function with M, it mutes speech like other > wireless keyboards do when using the command VO plus M, but it also > activates the home button. Function with S also activates the home button, > after briefly taking you up to the status bar. > The scrol buttons work as they should, but instead of the left and right > arrows moveing across the screen, they actually activate the current rotor > setting. Instead, the up and down arrow keys move left to right across the > screen. > > Hope this info is helpful, > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices
So, how do you put in a hard return when writing in a document, or Email, etc? Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:28 PM To: viphone Subject: Braille Sense u2 QWERTY with iDevices HI all. SO I rebooted both the phone and Braille Sense, and am now able to type using the standard keyboard. It's also importnat to note, as was done earlier on one list, that you must have contractions turned off on the iDevice. However, the backspace key and enter key do not work. Also, the function key with H, instead of space with H, will actually go in to the app switcher. I thought that perhaps this meant some consistency in the sense that you could sort of use the function key in place of the spacebar, but no. When I press function with M, it mutes speech like other wireless keyboards do when using the command VO plus M, but it also activates the home button. Function with S also activates the home button, after briefly taking you up to the status bar. The scrol buttons work as they should, but instead of the left and right arrows moveing across the screen, they actually activate the current rotor setting. Instead, the up and down arrow keys move left to right across the screen. Hope this info is helpful, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
