Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!
I said this morning that touch typing worked for me. I was not referring to direct touch typing. I don't use it but rather just touch typing which does work fine. On 3/10/15, Joanne Chua wrote: > Have no problem with direct touch typing on my iphone6+ using ios8.2 > > Have you check your keyboard setting under accessibility? > > > > Joanne Chua > The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. > Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate > Send from my iPad > >> On 11 Mar 2015, at 9:49, Jennie Facer wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have no problem with my six plus or my iPad mini 2. >> >> Jenn and Kumi >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:40 AM -0700, "Richard Turner" >> wrote: >> >>> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in >>> the letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter >>> until you lift your finger. >>> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing. >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >>> what they become by it." >>> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >>> >>> >>> > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell wrote: >>> > >>> > Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for >>> > the return key, which demands a double tap. Harry >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: >>> >> >>> >> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS >>> >> 8.2. I don't think so. >>> >> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same >>> >> as standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. >>> >> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering >>> >> text in an edit field, etc. >>> >> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens >>> >> unless I double tap on a letter. >>> >> The regular Touch Typing still works as before. >>> >> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with >>> >> 8.2, but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be >>> >> writing to accessibil...@apple.com >>> >> >>> >> JMTCW, >>> >> Richard >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, >>> >> but what they become by it." >>> >> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >>> >> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >> The archives for this list can be searched at >>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >> --- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> >> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>> > have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> > The archives for this list can be searched at >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> > --- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >>> for this list can be searched at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viph
Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!
Have no problem with direct touch typing on my iphone6+ using ios8.2 Have you check your keyboard setting under accessibility? Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad > On 11 Mar 2015, at 9:49, Jennie Facer wrote: > > Hi, > > I have no problem with my six plus or my iPad mini 2. > > Jenn and Kumi > > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:40 AM -0700, "Richard Turner" > wrote: > >> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the >> letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until >> you lift your finger. >> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing. >> Richard >> >> >> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >> what they become by it." >> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >> >> >> > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell wrote: >> > >> > Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the >> > return key, which demands a double tap. Harry >> > >> > >> > >> >> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. >> >> I don't think so. >> >> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as >> >> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. >> >> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering >> >> text in an edit field, etc. >> >> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless >> >> I double tap on a letter. >> >> The regular Touch Typing still works as before. >> >> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, >> >> but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing >> >> to accessibil...@apple.com >> >> >> >> JMTCW, >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >> >> what they become by it." >> >> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> >> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> >> for this list can be searched at >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> --- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "VIPhone" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > -- >> > The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> > have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> > feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> > for this list can be searched at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "VIPhone" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members
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Hi, I have no problem with my six plus or my iPad mini 2. Jenn and Kumi On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:40 AM -0700, "Richard Turner" wrote: The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until you lift your finger. The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell wrote: > > Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the > return key, which demands a double tap. Harry > > > >> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: >> >> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I >> don't think so. >> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as >> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. >> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text >> in an edit field, etc. >> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I >> double tap on a letter. >> The regular Touch Typing still works as before. >> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but >> if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to >> accessibil...@apple.com >> >> JMTCW, >> Richard >> >> >> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >> what they become by it." >> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,
Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!
Interesting. I even rebooted my 5S and Direct Touch Typing still does not work. Odd that it works for some. Time to report it to Apple I guess. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 > On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: > > Hello everyone. Direct touch typing works fine on my 5s. > > >> On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Harry Bell wrote: >> >> Thanks, Richard! You are spot on: so in ios 8.2 on my iPhone 5s Touch Typing >> does work normally but Direct Touch Typing does not (though it does work on >> my iPad Air). I hadn't realised. Thanks. Harry >> >> >> >>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 17:40, Richard Turner wrote: >>> >>> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in >>> the letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter >>> until you lift your finger. >>> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing. >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >>> what they become by it." >>> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >>> >>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell wrote: Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the return key, which demands a double tap. Harry > On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: > > OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. > I don't think so. > I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as > standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. > -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!
Hello everyone. Direct touch typing works fine on my 5s. > On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Harry Bell wrote: > > Thanks, Richard! You are spot on: so in ios 8.2 on my iPhone 5s Touch Typing > does work normally but Direct Touch Typing does not (though it does work on > my iPad Air). I hadn't realised. Thanks. Harry > > > >> On 10 Mar 2015, at 17:40, Richard Turner wrote: >> >> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the >> letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until >> you lift your finger. >> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing. >> Richard >> >> >> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >> what they become by it." >> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >> >> >>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell wrote: >>> >>> Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the >>> return key, which demands a double tap. Harry >>> >>> >>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I don't think so. I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text in an edit field, etc. If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I double tap on a letter. The regular Touch Typing still works as before. Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to accessibil...@apple.com JMTCW, Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's
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Thanks, Richard! You are spot on: so in ios 8.2 on my iPhone 5s Touch Typing does work normally but Direct Touch Typing does not (though it does work on my iPad Air). I hadn't realised. Thanks. Harry > On 10 Mar 2015, at 17:40, Richard Turner wrote: > > The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the > letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until > you lift your finger. > The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing. > Richard > > > > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what > they become by it." > -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 > > >> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell wrote: >> >> Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the >> return key, which demands a double tap. Harry >> >> >> >>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: >>> >>> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I >>> don't think so. >>> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as >>> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. >>> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text >>> in an edit field, etc. >>> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I >>> double tap on a letter. >>> The regular Touch Typing still works as before. >>> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, >>> but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing >>> to accessibil...@apple.com >>> >>> JMTCW, >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >>> what they become by it." >>> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received th
Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!
The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until you lift your finger. The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell wrote: > > Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the > return key, which demands a double tap. Harry > > > >> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: >> >> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I >> don't think so. >> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as >> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. >> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text >> in an edit field, etc. >> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I >> double tap on a letter. >> The regular Touch Typing still works as before. >> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but >> if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to >> accessibil...@apple.com >> >> JMTCW, >> Richard >> >> >> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but >> what they become by it." >> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the return key, which demands a double tap. Harry > On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner wrote: > > OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I > don't think so. > I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as > standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter. > I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text in > an edit field, etc. > If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I > double tap on a letter. > The regular Touch Typing still works as before. > Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but > if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to > accessibil...@apple.com > > JMTCW, > Richard > > > > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what > they become by it." > -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900 > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
Time will tell, some are getting good at it. - Original Message - From: "David Cleveland" To: Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:29 PM Subject: RE: Direct touch typing Who came up with this direct touch typing idea? It seems half baked to me. I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8 launch. It reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the last minute to IOS 7. I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting input method on a regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with the direct touch typing as well. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Direct touch typing No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just tap directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and precise movements on the touch screen. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers wrote: Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it down and tap again. I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems more trouble than it is worth to me. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if that makes sense. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@goo
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I tried it out, and I understand now! Thank you all for the great explanations! Sharonda Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes > On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing > on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and > that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no > split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is > inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is > inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it > requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature > which is more useful on a larger device. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sharonda Greenlaw > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have > to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different > from standard typing? > > Sharonda > >> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >> Oh my gosh. >> Now I don't understand anything. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Teresa Cochran >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >> >> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of >> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, > including >> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little >> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of >> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it >> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't >> something >> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me >> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks >> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've >> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different >> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that >> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one >> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) >> >> Teresa >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that > a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this > list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that > a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this > list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Sharond
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es >>> just to feel all over the screen without anything happening. Then switch >>> for a while to a light tap/touch and quick release at various places. >>> Jonathan explains it pretty well in his book but i wish I could give you a >>> mental feel for the kind of tactile touch-and-release this involves. It >>> isn't that a split tap can't be employed with this typing choice but it >>> appears to me that what this is really meant to do is allow you a way to >>> fly around the keyboard with one finger, a light touch and zoom off to >>> another letter. I'm not good at it yet but I think the progress i've made >>> so far is promising enough for me to continue to work on it. I really am >>> sorry that this still isn't really going to get it across to everybody the >>> way I would like to communicate it because it really is neat in my opinion! >>> >>> -- >>> Cheryl >>> >>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>> thrown in the trash! >>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>> And now, every day: >>> "This I call to mind, >>> and therefore I have hope: >>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>> never ceases; >>> his mercies never come to an end; >>> they are new every morning; >>> great is your faithfulness." >>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have >>>> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different >>>> from standard typing? >>>> >>>> Sharonda >>>> >>>>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >>>>> Oh my gosh. >>>>> Now I don't understand anything. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>>> Of Teresa Cochran >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >>>>> >>>>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of >>>>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, >>>>> including >>>>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little >>>>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of >>>>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it >>>>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't >>>>> something >>>>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me >>>>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks >>>>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've >>>>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different >>>>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that >>>>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one >>>>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) >>>>> >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>> list. >>>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>>>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that >>>>> a >>>>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this >>>>> list >>>>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an &
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; everybody the way I would like to communicate it because it really is neat >> in my opinion! >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >> thrown in the trash! >> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >> His joy for my despairing tears! >> And now, every day: >> "This I call to mind, >> and therefore I have hope: >> The steadfast love of the Lord >> never ceases; >> his mercies never come to an end; >> they are new every morning; >> great is your faithfulness." >> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote: >> >>> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have >>> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different >>> from standard typing? >>> >>> Sharonda >>> >>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >>>> Oh my gosh. >>>> Now I don't understand anything. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of Teresa Cochran >>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >>>> >>>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of >>>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including >>>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little >>>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of >>>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it >>>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't >>>> something >>>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me >>>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks >>>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've >>>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different >>>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that >>>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one >>>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) >>>> >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >>>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >>>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >>>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>&g
Re: Direct touch typing
This is the problem I had with Fleksy. Though I'm a touch typist on a standard keyboard, it's extremely difficult for me to guess exactly where the virtual keys are, because I have poor spatial memory. I can get within a character most of the time. For myself, I do estimate the general area with direct touch typing, then slide my finger a character or so to make sure I'm going to tap the correct key. Then I lift quickly and tap gkly where that key is. Oddly enough, this is faster and more accurate for me than touch typing, because with touch typing, I'm slow enough that I get hung up in the alternate characters mode a fair amount of the time and have to delete a character I've accidentally typed in. So no, I don't think I'll ever get to the point where I can strike the right key the first time. I'd bet, though that with a tactile screen protector, this task would be made much easier, as Jonathan has pointed out before. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > On Sep 22, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. > Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it keeps > coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you can. > > The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a > quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the > letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you don't > get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative characters > coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull away quickly > the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go into an edit > field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover settings. Don't worry > about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a finger and pull away as > if you had discovered your phone was burning hot or covered by Arctic ice or > as if sharp little needles or thorns had been implanted and you didn't want > to get pricked (maybe a bit of an exaggeration). When you touch lightly and > pull away quickly, the letter will be written. To do this accurately, I think > you would have to have developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and > responsive finger muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing > on a keyboard; without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do > usually pull away pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know > how to explain it any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to > hopscotch or skip with your finger and that you are out if your finger > lingers on the ground. Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger > memory of the keyboard, you can still use this kind of typing sometimes just > to feel all over the screen without anything happening. Then switch for a > while to a light tap/touch and quick release at various places. Jonathan > explains it pretty well in his book but i wish I could give you a mental feel > for the kind of tactile touch-and-release this involves. It isn't that a > split tap can't be employed with this typing choice but it appears to me that > what this is really meant to do is allow you a way to fly around the keyboard > with one finger, a light touch and zoom off to another letter. I'm not good > at it yet but I think the progress i've made so far is promising enough for > me to continue to work on it. I really am sorry that this still isn't really > going to get it across to everybody the way I would like to communicate it > because it really is neat in my opinion! > > -- > Cheryl > > I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. > I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper > thrown in the trash! > Then God gave me a new heart and life: > His joy for my despairing tears! > And now, every day: > "This I call to mind, > and therefore I have hope: > The steadfast love of the Lord > never ceases; > his mercies never come to an end; > they are new every morning; > great is your faithfulness." > (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) > > > > >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote: >> >> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have >> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different >> from standard typing? >> >> Sharonda >> >>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >>> Oh my gosh. >>> Now I don't understand anything. >>> >
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ess." >> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw >> wrote: >> >>> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have >>> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different >>> from standard typing? >>> >>> Sharonda >>> >>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >>>> Oh my gosh. >>>> Now I don't understand anything. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Teresa Cochran >>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >>>> >>>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know >>>> of >>>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, >>>> including >>>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a >>>> little >>>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method >>>> of >>>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it >>>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't >>>> something >>>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me >>>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks >>>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've >>>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different >>>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that >>>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another >>>> one >>>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) >>>> >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. >>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >>>> any >>>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel >>>> that a >>>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this >>>> list >>>> can be searched at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. >>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >>>> any >>>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel >>>> that a >>>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this >>>> list >>>> can be searched at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sharonda Greenlaw >>> President (Phoenix Chapter) >>> National Federation
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I do not, but one way to do it, may be as follow: Slide your finger to q and a. Only these two letters in notes for example. Over and Over again 10 times about. Then try to directly hit first q and then a like one tap with the finger. One finger tap on letter q and a may be direct touch typing. When you have learned these two letters, you find two or more or less letters as you like. Take care 23. sep. 2014 kl. 05:06 skrev Neal Ewers : You are correct, it is like typing on a regular keyboard. But I think the confusion here is that you can slide your finger around until you find the letter you want and then lift your finger and tap it. However, this is not what is meant to happen with this mode of typing. It is like typing on a keyboard. You figure out where the letter would be on the keyboard and put your finger there and quickly lift it up. It takes some practice, and myself, I think sliding around to find the letter may lengthen the time it takes for people to get good at just knowing where the letter is. So imagine that your fingers are suspended above the keyboard. You press your finger down and release it and hope to heck you are on the right letter. You will likely become quite acquainted with the delete key. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Direct touch typing You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature which is more useful on a larger device. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharonda Greenlaw Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different from standard typing? Sharonda On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: > Oh my gosh. > Now I don't understand anything. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Teresa Cochran > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know > of four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including > myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a > little like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other > method of doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try > it, and it never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it > wasn't something blind people could use. It just wasn't something that > suited me specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't > think folks should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar > or new. I've trained many people, some of whom learn things in > extremely different methods from the ones I use. But it works for > them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a particular > method, there's another one out there to use. Literally, different > strokes, etc. Right? :) > > Teresa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have > any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you > feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The > archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >
Re: Direct touch typing
One more comment on this to try to compare the three kinds of typing. Standard typing is careful, methodical: you find your letter and double-tap it. Touch typing makes the letters stick to your finger; you can slide around but when you liftup, that character comes right along with your finger. In direct touch typing, you have freedom to explore much like you do in standard typing; you can slide aaround and explore and when you lift off, unless it's an immediate, quick movement nothing is typed. But it also gives the quickness of touch typing as you touch quickly and pull away and the key is typed. But characters don't stick to your finger; pulling away does nothing unless it's a quick, purposeful motion. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. > Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it keeps > coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you can. > > The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a > quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the > letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you don't > get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative characters > coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull away quickly > the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go into an edit > field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover settings. Don't worry > about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a finger and pull away as > if you had discovered your phone was burning hot or covered by Arctic ice or > as if sharp little needles or thorns had been implanted and you didn't want > to get pricked (maybe a bit of an exaggeration). When you touch lightly and > pull away quickly, the letter will be written. To do this accurately, I think > you would have to have developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and > responsive finger muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing > on a keyboard; without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do > usually pull away pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know > how to explain it any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to > hopscotch or skip with your finger and that you are out if your finger > lingers on the ground. Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger > memory of the keyboard, you can still use this kind of typing sometimes just > to feel all over the screen without anything happening. Then switch for a > while to a light tap/touch and quick release at various places. Jonathan > explains it pretty well in his book but i wish I could give you a mental feel > for the kind of tactile touch-and-release this involves. It isn't that a > split tap can't be employed with this typing choice but it appears to me that > what this is really meant to do is allow you a way to fly around the keyboard > with one finger, a light touch and zoom off to another letter. I'm not good > at it yet but I think the progress i've made so far is promising enough for > me to continue to work on it. I really am sorry that this still isn't really > going to get it across to everybody the way I would like to communicate it > because it really is neat in my opinion! > > -- > Cheryl > > I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. > I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper > thrown in the trash! > Then God gave me a new heart and life: > His joy for my despairing tears! > And now, every day: > "This I call to mind, > and therefore I have hope: > The steadfast love of the Lord > never ceases; > his mercies never come to an end; > they are new every morning; > great is your faithfulness." > (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) > > > > > On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote: > >> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have >> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different >> from standard typing? >> >> Sharonda >> >> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >>> Oh my gosh. >>> Now I don't understand anything. >>&g
RE: Direct touch typing
You are correct, it is like typing on a regular keyboard. But I think the confusion here is that you can slide your finger around until you find the letter you want and then lift your finger and tap it. However, this is not what is meant to happen with this mode of typing. It is like typing on a keyboard. You figure out where the letter would be on the keyboard and put your finger there and quickly lift it up. It takes some practice, and myself, I think sliding around to find the letter may lengthen the time it takes for people to get good at just knowing where the letter is. So imagine that your fingers are suspended above the keyboard. You press your finger down and release it and hope to heck you are on the right letter. You will likely become quite acquainted with the delete key. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Direct touch typing You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature which is more useful on a larger device. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharonda Greenlaw Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different from standard typing? Sharonda On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: > Oh my gosh. > Now I don't understand anything. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Teresa Cochran > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know > of four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including > myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a > little like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other > method of doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try > it, and it never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it > wasn't something blind people could use. It just wasn't something that > suited me specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't > think folks should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar > or new. I've trained many people, some of whom learn things in > extremely different methods from the ones I use. But it works for > them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a particular > method, there's another one out there to use. Literally, different > strokes, etc. Right? :) > > Teresa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have > any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you > feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The > archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have > any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you > feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The > archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message b
Re: Direct touch typing
You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it keeps coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you can. The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you don't get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative characters coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull away quickly the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go into an edit field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover settings. Don't worry about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a finger and pull away as if you had discovered your phone was burning hot or covered by Arctic ice or as if sharp little needles or thorns had been implanted and you didn't want to get pricked (maybe a bit of an exaggeration). When you touch lightly and pull away quickly, the letter will be written. To do this accurately, I think you would have to have developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and responsive finger muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing on a keyboard; without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do usually pull away pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know how to explain it any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to hopscotch or skip with your finger and that you are out if your finger lingers on the ground. Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger memory of the keyboard, you can still use this kind of typing sometimes just to feel all over the screen without anything happening. Then switch for a while to a light tap/touch and quick release at various places. Jonathan explains it pretty well in his book but i wish I could give you a mental feel for the kind of tactile touch-and-release this involves. It isn't that a split tap can't be employed with this typing choice but it appears to me that what this is really meant to do is allow you a way to fly around the keyboard with one finger, a light touch and zoom off to another letter. I'm not good at it yet but I think the progress i've made so far is promising enough for me to continue to work on it. I really am sorry that this still isn't really going to get it across to everybody the way I would like to communicate it because it really is neat in my opinion! -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote: > I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have > to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different > from standard typing? > > Sharonda > > On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >> Oh my gosh. >> Now I don't understand anything. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Teresa Cochran >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >> >> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of >> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including >> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little >> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of >> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it >> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't >> something >> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me >> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks >> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've >> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different >> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that >> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one >> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) >> >> Teresa >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the
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I think handwriting is the best thing ever invented for opening apps. Yes, true, I also don't use it for writing longer text, but as Christopher said, it's a good way to enter a opasscode if you don't want people around you to hear which numbers you are typing and it absolutely rocks for finding and opening apps. I have my most used apps on the first home screen and can usually put my finger on every one of them at the first try, but for anything else I use handwriting, it's extremely rare that I switch to my second or third home screen or open a folder. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I use the handwriting input method on a regular basis. I don't use it much for typing text messages, but I use it to enter my pin when unlocking my phone and using it to search for apps on my home screens. I've seen others on the list make similar references, so I don't think I'm alone in this. I also don't see what's wrong with adding another input method. If you don't like it then don't use it. I don't see either direct touch typing or handwriting causing any ill side effects. On 09/22/2014 04:29 PM, David Cleveland wrote: > Who came up with this direct touch typing idea? It seems half baked to > me. I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8 > launch. It reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the > last minute to IOS 7. I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting > input method on a regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with > the direct touch typing as well. > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *christopher hallsworth > *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM > *To:* Viphone > *Subject:* Re: Direct touch typing > > No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just > tap directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and > precise movements on the touch screen. > > > Sent from my Macbook Pro > > On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>> wrote: > > > > Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With > touch typing, > > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." > > > I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around > to look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way > all I have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With > direct touch typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. > When I get to a character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now > have to bring it down and tap again. > > I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and > others are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over > where you think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can > slide if you miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to > simply use it like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower > your finger seems more trouble than it is worth to me. > > Neal > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the > difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a > letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from > accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger > around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is > entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be > faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and > can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For > my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I > practice direct touch typing. > > On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my > finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct > touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, > you simply lift your finger to enter
RE: Direct touch typing
You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature which is more useful on a larger device. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharonda Greenlaw Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different from standard typing? Sharonda On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: > Oh my gosh. > Now I don't understand anything. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Teresa Cochran > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of > four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including > myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little > like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of > doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it > never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't > something > blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me > specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks > should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've > trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different > methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that > counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one > out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) > > Teresa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Sharonda Greenlaw President (Phoenix Chapter) National Federation of the Blind - Skype: sharonda2004 Twitter: shari_rocks Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. -
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I use the handwriting input method on a regular basis. I don't use it much for typing text messages, but I use it to enter my pin when unlocking my phone and using it to search for apps on my home screens. I've seen others on the list make similar references, so I don't think I'm alone in this. I also don't see what's wrong with adding another input method. If you don't like it then don't use it. I don't see either direct touch typing or handwriting causing any ill side effects. On 09/22/2014 04:29 PM, David Cleveland wrote: Who came up with this direct touch typing idea? It seems half baked to me. I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8 launch. It reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the last minute to IOS 7. I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting input method on a regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with the direct touch typing as well. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *christopher hallsworth *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM *To:* Viphone *Subject:* Re: Direct touch typing No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just tap directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and precise movements on the touch screen. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>> wrote: Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it down and tap again. I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems more trouble than it is worth to me. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if that makes sense. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Touch t
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I would hold off installing IOS8 It has a lot of bugs and glitches, and Fleksy doesn't work with that at all. By the way, I use the Fleksy VO app constantly and get absolutely fantastic results with it. I'm looking forward to it incorporation in the iOS eight as an additional keyboard. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. > On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: > > I'm like you Teresa, Fleksy never works for me. I can only type like > 10 to 15 words prm in Average using fleksy, compare to 50 or 60 words > prm to standard or touch typing. > > i haven't try the direct typing yet, as i can't really be bother to > install iOS8 just yet. More to do with my laziness than anything > though really. :) > > I'll initially get to install ios 8, as i found that the battery issue > that i have been having with my ip hone 5, even after changing > battery, or changing phone, is not to do with the hardware, or the > ios. It is definitely to do with specific apps. As to which apps, i > can't put my finger on it just yet. > >> On 23/09/2014, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote: >> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have >> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different >> from standard typing? >> >> Sharonda >> >>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >>> Oh my gosh. >>> Now I don't understand anything. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Teresa Cochran >>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >>> >>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of >>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, >>> including >>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a >>> little >>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of >>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it >>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't >>> something >>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me >>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks >>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've >>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different >>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that >>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one >>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >>> any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that >>> a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this >>> list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >>> any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that >>> a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this >>> list >>> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the
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I'm like you Teresa, Fleksy never works for me. I can only type like 10 to 15 words prm in Average using fleksy, compare to 50 or 60 words prm to standard or touch typing. i haven't try the direct typing yet, as i can't really be bother to install iOS8 just yet. More to do with my laziness than anything though really. :) I'll initially get to install ios 8, as i found that the battery issue that i have been having with my ip hone 5, even after changing battery, or changing phone, is not to do with the hardware, or the ios. It is definitely to do with specific apps. As to which apps, i can't put my finger on it just yet. On 23/09/2014, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote: > I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have > to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different > from standard typing? > > Sharonda > > On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: >> Oh my gosh. >> Now I don't understand anything. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Teresa Cochran >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >> >> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of >> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, >> including >> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a >> little >> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of >> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it >> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't >> something >> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me >> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks >> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've >> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different >> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that >> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one >> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) >> >> Teresa >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >> any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that >> a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this >> list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >> any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that >> a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this >> list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Sharonda Greenlaw > President (Phoenix Chapter) > National Federation of the Blind > - > Skype: sharonda2004 > Twitter: shari_rocks > Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you
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I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different from standard typing? Sharonda On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales wrote: > Oh my gosh. > Now I don't understand anything. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Teresa Cochran > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of > four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including > myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little > like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of > doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it > never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't > something > blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me > specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks > should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've > trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different > methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that > counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one > out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) > > Teresa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Sharonda Greenlaw President (Phoenix Chapter) National Federation of the Blind - Skype: sharonda2004 Twitter: shari_rocks Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Oh my gosh. Now I don't understand anything. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't something blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) Teresa -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I am looking forward to a podcast of demonstration of this particular type of typing, as I have just tried it on my iPad mini, and got nothing but gibberish. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. > On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of four > totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including > myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little > like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of > doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it never > clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't something blind > people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me specifically, as > far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks should be lambasted > for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've trained many people, some > of whom learn things in extremely different methods from the ones I use. But > it works for them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a > particular method, there's another one out there to use. Literally, different > strokes, etc. Right? :) > > Teresa > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/viphone/3Uv0l5rc1LQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't something blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :) Teresa -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I suspect, that this feature will be used with people who are visually impaired, not blind, like myself. There are days when I can see the keyboard fairly well, and if I had this I would be able to type much faster than even the touch type system or Fleksy Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. > On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:29 PM, "David Cleveland" > wrote: > > Who came up with this direct touch typing idea? It seems half baked to me. > I don’t remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8 launch. It > reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the last minute to > IOS 7. I don’t know anyone who uses the handwriting input method on a > regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with the direct touch > typing as well. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > christopher hallsworth > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM > To: Viphone > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just tap > directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and precise > movements on the touch screen. > > Sent from my Macbook Pro > > On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers wrote: > > > Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With touch > typing, > > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." > > I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to > look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I > have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch > typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a > character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it > down and tap again. > > I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others > are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you > think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you > miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it > like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems > more trouble than it is worth to me. > > Neal > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the > difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a > letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from > accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger > around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is > entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if > you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it > without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting > good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. > > On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my > finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct > touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It > sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I > think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing > more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if > that makes sense. > > Teresa > > "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and > seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > > On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. > When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to > enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the > edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character > I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I > guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the
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I think direct touch typing is fantastic. There seems to be a lot of confusion out there about its use so it's one of the things I'll demonstrate on my Tek Talk presentation in a few hours. It takes a bit of investment in developing the muscle memory, but at least for me it has been well worth it. I suspect when I get my 6 Plus it will be even more useful, it certainly is very good on an iPad. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org > On 23/09/2014, at 9:29 am, David Cleveland wrote: > > Who came up with this direct touch typing idea? It seems half baked to me. > I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8 launch. It > reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the last minute to > IOS 7. I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting input method on a > regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with the direct touch > typing as well. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > christopher hallsworth > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM > To: Viphone > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just tap > directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and precise > movements on the touch screen. > > Sent from my Macbook Pro > > On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>> wrote: > > > Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With touch > typing, > > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." > > I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to > look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I > have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch > typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a > character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it > down and tap again. > > I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others > are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you > think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you > miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it > like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems > more trouble than it is worth to me. > > Neal > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the > difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a > letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from > accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger > around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is > entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if > you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it > without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting > good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. > > On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my > finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct > touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It > sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I > think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing > more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if > that makes sense. > > Teresa > > "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and > seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > > On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > At the risk of being con
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Who came up with this direct touch typing idea? It seems half baked to me. I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8 launch. It reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the last minute to IOS 7. I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting input method on a regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with the direct touch typing as well. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Direct touch typing No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just tap directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and precise movements on the touch screen. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers wrote: Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it down and tap again. I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems more trouble than it is worth to me. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if that makes sense. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]* On Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:
Re: Direct touch typing
No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just tap directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and precise movements on the touch screen. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers wrote: > Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With touch > typing, >> you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch >> typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." > > I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to > look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I > have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch > typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a > character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it > down and tap again. > > I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others > are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you > think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you > miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it > like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems > more trouble than it is worth to me. > > Neal > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the > difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a > letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from > accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger > around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is > entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if > you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it > without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting > good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. > > On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my >> finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct >> touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, >> you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch >> typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It >> sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I >> think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing >> more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if >> that makes sense. >> >> Teresa >> >> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and >> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >> >> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. >>> When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to >>> enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the >>> edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character >>> I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I >>> guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the >>> descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. >>> >>> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>>> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then >>>> lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch >>>> Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be >>>> immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion >>>> here? >>>> >>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>>> >>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales >>> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >>>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> &
Re: Direct touch typing
I wanted to know also what direct touch typing is but it certainly isn't a joke. *** "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." - John, 8:32 On Sep 21, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote: > So, it is a joke? > > Take care > > 21. sep. 2014 kl. 21:23 skrev Alan Paganelli : > > I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe > the Amazon basics keyboard. > > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2014! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move > out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > - Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Dean" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > > In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now > a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move > to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch > Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard > Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on > the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is > that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is > entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you > want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the > key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching > the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other > typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. > > The Braille is Everywhere! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegrou
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I don't know why I never tried touch typing in the past. It is so much faster than the default. On 9/22/14, Nicki Keck wrote: > So am I, but I'm also getting good at hitting the right keys too. The more > I do it, the better I am getting at it. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the > difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a > letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from > accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger > around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is > entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster > if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land > on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm > getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch > typing. > > On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my >> finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct >> touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, >> you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch >> typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It >> sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I >> think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing >> more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if >> that makes sense. >> >> Teresa >> >> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and >> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >> >> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. >>> When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to >>> enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the >>> edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character >>> I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I >>> guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the >>> descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. >>> >>> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>>> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then >>>> lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch >>>> Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be >>>> immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion >>>> here? >>>> >>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>>> >>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales >>> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >>>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]* >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth >>>>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone >>>>> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing >>>>> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead >>>>> of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap >>>>> to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the >>>>> letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin >>>> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct >>>>> touch typing? >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for
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So am I, but I'm also getting good at hitting the right keys too. The more I do it, the better I am getting at it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my > finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct > touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It > sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I > think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing > more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if > that makes sense. > > Teresa > > "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and > seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > > On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. >> When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to >> enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the >> edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character >> I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I >> guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the >> descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. >> >> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then >>> lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch >>> Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be >>> immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion >>> here? >>> >>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>> >>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales >> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]* >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth >>>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone >>>> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing >>>> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead >>>> of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap >>>> to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the >>>> letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. >>>> >>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin >>> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct >>>> touch typing? >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>>> default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of >>>> this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>> the list itself. >>>> The archives for this list can be searched >&
Re: Direct touch typing
Direct Touch Typing isn't the same as the regular keyboard a sighted person uses. If it were, everything you touched, no matter for how long, would register. It requires a very quick and precise touch to enter text with direct touch typing. If you're not quick enough with the action, then you'll just be exploring the screen with no entry registering. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org > On 22/09/2014, at 3:59 pm, Chuck Dean wrote: > > Hi Tom, > Yes, I think that is what this is. I think this just is the normal keyboard > that sighted people use, which is now become an option with voiceover. > Although I have not played with the keyboard at all, the description sounds > exactly like a regular keyboard. > > Chuck (mobile) > Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. > >> On Sep 21, 2014, at 7:25 PM, "Thom Spittle" wrote: >> >> Would direct touch typing be the same as someone using the virtual keyboard >> without voice over? >> >> If so, I can only think that this would benefit someone who is low vision >> enough to see the virtual keys, but still want the voice over feature. >> >> Is that an accurate description? >> >> Thom >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >> >> At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. >> When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter >> and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I >> don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not >> quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to >> bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list >> aren't really clicking with me. >> >>> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift >>> it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing >>> involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately >>> inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? >>> >>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>> >>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales >> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On >>>> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth >>>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone >>>> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing >>>> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of >>>> finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to >>>> insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, >>>> the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. >>>> >>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin >>> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct >>>> touch typing? >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >>>> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> The archives for this list can be searched >>>> athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups
Re: Direct touch typing
Hi Tom, Yes, I think that is what this is. I think this just is the normal keyboard that sighted people use, which is now become an option with voiceover. Although I have not played with the keyboard at all, the description sounds exactly like a regular keyboard. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. > On Sep 21, 2014, at 7:25 PM, "Thom Spittle" wrote: > > Would direct touch typing be the same as someone using the virtual keyboard > without voice over? > > If so, I can only think that this would benefit someone who is low vision > enough to see the virtual keys, but still want the voice over feature. > > Is that an accurate description? > > Thom > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. > When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter > and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I > don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not > quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to > bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list > aren't really clicking with me. > >> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift >> it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing >> involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately >> inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? >> >> Sent from my Macbook Pro >> >> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales > <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On >>> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth >>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone >>> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing >>> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of >>> finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to >>> insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, >>> the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. >>> >>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin >> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct >>> touch typing? >>> Thank you. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >>> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> The archives for this list can be searched >>> athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >>> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> The archives for this list can be searched >>> athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>
RE: Direct touch typing
Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With touch typing, > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place." I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it down and tap again. I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems more trouble than it is worth to me. Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my > finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct > touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, > you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch > typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It > sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I > think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing > more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if > that makes sense. > > Teresa > > "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and > seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > > On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. >> When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to >> enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the >> edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character >> I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I >> guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the >> descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. >> >> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then >>> lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch >>> Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be >>> immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion >>> here? >>> >>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>> >>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales >> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]* >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth >>>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone >>>> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing >>>> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead >>>> of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap >>>> to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the >>>> letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. >>>> &g
Re: Direct touch typing
I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch typing. On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if that makes sense. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin mailto:alvin@gmail.com> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct touch typing? Thank you. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com <mailto:toviph...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe
Re: Direct touch typing
I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing, you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if that makes sense. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. When I > use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter and then > I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I don't slide > my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not quite seeing > what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to bring it up and > play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really > clicking with me. > >> On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >> Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift it >> before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing involves >> directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately inserted into a >> text field. I don't understand the confusion here? >> >> Sent from my Macbook Pro >> >> On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales > <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On >>> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth >>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM >>> *To:*Viphone >>> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing >>> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of >>> finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to >>> insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, >>> the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. >>> >>> Sent from my Macbook Pro >>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin >> <mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct >>> touch typing? >>> Thank you. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >>> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> The archives for this list can be searched >>> athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >>> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> The archives for this list can be searched >>> athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <
RE: Direct touch typing
Would direct touch typing be the same as someone using the virtual keyboard without voice over? If so, I can only think that this would benefit someone who is low vision enough to see the virtual keys, but still want the voice over feature. Is that an accurate description? Thom -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: > Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift > it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing > involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately > inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? > > Sent from my Macbook Pro > > On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On >> Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth >> *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone >> *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing >> It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of >> finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to >> insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, >> the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. >> >> Sent from my Macbook Pro >> On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin > <mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct >> touch typing? >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> The archives for this list can be searched >> athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> The archives for this list can be searched >> athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >> you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a membe
Re: Direct touch typing
At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either. When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me. On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>> wrote: But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*christopher hallsworth *Sent:*Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM *To:*Viphone *Subject:*Re: Direct touch typing It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin mailto:alvin@gmail.com>> wrote: Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct touch typing? Thank you. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/vi
Re: Direct touch typing
If you're using a Bluetooth keyboard, the on-screen keyboard doesn't even show up on the screen. Thanks, Ari > On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Alan Paganelli > wrote: > > I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe > the Amazon basics keyboard. > > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2014! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move > out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > - Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Dean" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > > In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now > a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move > to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch > Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard > Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on > the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is > that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is > entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you > want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the > key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching > the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other > typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. > > The Braille is Everywhere! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
So, it is a joke? Take care 21. sep. 2014 kl. 21:23 skrev Alan Paganelli : I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe the Amazon basics keyboard. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Direct touch typing In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. The Braille is Everywhere! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
LOL I'm pretty sharp, if I say so myself, but I'm also easily confused. A confusing combination. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Alan Paganelli > wrote: > > No, just twisting your tail a might! LOL! > > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2014! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! > Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > - Original Message - > From: Teresa Cochran > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > Are you saying that you suspect it will be easier to type on an external > keyboard than on the touch-screen? I'd say that has always been the case. I > don't think it's a fair comparison. A keyboard is simply faster in most > cases, if not all. > > Teresa > > "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with > the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > >> On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Alan Paganelli >> wrote: >> >> I guess I'll find out the next time I use my Amazon Basics Bluetooth >> wireless keyboard on my iPhone 5s. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> Go Chicago Bears in 2014! >> >> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! >> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >> >> Please click on: >> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on >> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my >> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >> - Original Message - >> From: Teresa Cochran >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:34 PM >> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >> >> All these methods refer to the onscreen keyboard. They don't apply to >> external keyboards. >> >> Teresa >> >> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain aswell, and >> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >> >>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Alan Paganelli >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe >>> the Amazon basics keyboard. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> Go Chicago Bears in 2014! >>> >>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! >>> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >>> >>> Please click on: >>> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on >>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my >>> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" >>> To: >>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >>> >>> >>> In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is >>> now a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text >>> field and move to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard >>> Typing and Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is >>> similar to Standard Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then >>> tap another finger on the screen to enter the character. The difference >>> with Direct Touch Typing is that if you touch a key and >>> immediately lift your finger, that character is entered. If you're >>> extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you want on your >>> first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the key you >>> wan
RE: Direct touch typing
Hi Alan, Direct Touch typing has nothing to do with external bluetooth keyboards, it's strictly a third way to use the virtual keyboard. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Direct touch typing I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe the Amazon basics keyboard. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Direct touch typing In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. The Braille is Everywhere! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
No, just twisting your tail a might! LOL!
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move
out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my
website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!
- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
Are you saying that you suspect it will be easier to type on an external
keyboard than on the touch-screen? I'd say that has always been the case. I
don't think it's a fair comparison. A keyboard is simply faster in most cases,
if not all.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Alan Paganelli
wrote:
I guess I'll find out the next time I use my Amazon Basics Bluetooth
wireless keyboard on my iPhone 5s.
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my
website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!
- Original Message -
From: Teresa Cochran
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
All these methods refer to the onscreen keyboard. They don't apply to
external keyboards.
Teresa
"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Alan Paganelli
wrote:
I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like
maybe the Amazon basics keyboard.
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act
now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly
on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!
- Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there
is now a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and
move to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and
Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard
Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on
the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is
that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is
entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you
want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the
key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching
the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other
typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings >
General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards.
The Braille is Everywhere!
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Re: Direct touch typing
Are you saying that you suspect it will be easier to type on an external keyboard than on the touch-screen? I'd say that has always been the case. I don't think it's a fair comparison. A keyboard is simply faster in most cases, if not all. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Alan Paganelli > wrote: > > I guess I'll find out the next time I use my Amazon Basics Bluetooth wireless > keyboard on my iPhone 5s. > > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2014! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! > Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > - Original Message - > From: Teresa Cochran > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > All these methods refer to the onscreen keyboard. They don't apply to > external keyboards. > > Teresa > > "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with > the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > >> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Alan Paganelli >> wrote: >> >> I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe >> the Amazon basics keyboard. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> Go Chicago Bears in 2014! >> >> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! >> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >> >> Please click on: >> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on >> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my >> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >> >> - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM >> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing >> >> >> In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now >> a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move >> to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and >> Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to >> Standard Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another >> finger on the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct >> Touch Typing is that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, >> that character is entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to >> locate the key you want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. >> You can also find the key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen >> keyboard, then touching the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing >> feedback is, as with the other typing modes, based on the verbosity settings >> that you have set in Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing >> Feedback > Software Keyboards. >> >> The Braille is Everywhere! >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the vip
Re: Direct touch typing
I guess I'll find out the next time I use my Amazon Basics Bluetooth wireless keyboard on my iPhone 5s. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Direct touch typing All these methods refer to the onscreen keyboard. They don't apply to external keyboards. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe the Amazon basics keyboard. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Direct touch typing In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. The Braille is Everywhere! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inapprop
Re: Direct touch typing
All these methods refer to the onscreen keyboard. They don't apply to external keyboards. Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks > On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Alan Paganelli > wrote: > > I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe > the Amazon basics keyboard. > > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2014! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move > out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > > In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now > a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move > to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch > Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard > Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on > the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is > that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is > entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you > want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the > key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching > the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other > typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. > > The Braille is Everywhere! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
I'm wondering if this would work better with external keyboards like maybe the Amazon basics keyboard. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Chuck Dean" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Direct touch typing In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. The Braille is Everywhere! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
In addition to Standard and Touch Typing for touchscreen input, there is now a new option called Direct Touch Typing. If you are in a text field and move to the Typing rotor option, you will still find the Standard Typing and Touch Typing selections available. Direct Touch Typing is similar to Standard Typing in that you can find a key with one finger, then tap another finger on the screen to enter the character. The difference with Direct Touch Typing is that if you touch a key and immediately lift your finger, that character is entered. If you're extremely confident in your ability to locate the key you want on your first try, Direct Touch Typing is for you. You can also find the key you want by dragging a finger around the onscreen keyboard, then touching the same spot quickly to type that key. Typing feedback is, as with the other typing modes, based on the verbosity settings that you have set in Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver> Typing Feedback > Software Keyboards. The Braille is Everywhere! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion here? Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales wrote: > But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > christopher hallsworth > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM > To: Viphone > Subject: Re: Direct touch typing > > It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of finding > the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to insert, you simply > tap and release immediately to input the letter, the same as you would on a > physical qwerty keyboard. > > Sent from my Macbook Pro > > On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin wrote: > > > > > Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct touch > typing? > Thank you. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Direct touch typing
But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it? From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:30 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Direct touch typing It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin wrote: Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct touch typing? Thank you. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Direct touch typing
It works a lot like typing on a physical qwerty keyboard. Instead of finding the letter and either lifting your finger or double tap to insert, you simply tap and release immediately to input the letter, the same as you would on a physical qwerty keyboard. Sent from my Macbook Pro On 21 Sep 2014, at 13:44, Alvin wrote: > > > Sorry if this topic has already been covered. How do I use direct touch > typing? > Thank you. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
