Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-17 Thread chris hallsworth
If you do not insert the phone number and or e-mail address then the 
advertisement is sent if you use the e-mail option only. However if you copy 
the text and paste it in the mail app the advertisement isn't included.
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Subject: Fleksy  Self-Marketing


All,

Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text 
message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, 
it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen 
on list, appears to…


I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if 
it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a 
free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say 
its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, 
revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for 
free or lite apps, not charged full ones.


I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I 
have added these to settings.



Regards,

Neil Barnfather

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RE: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Amy Billman
My concern with that is if it can't be turned off somewhere in the app's
settings, anyone who decides to send an email of a professional nature using
it will make themselves look very bad.
It doesn't look professional from an employer perspective, or in the least
bit cute; never mind nobody's going to know what in hell a Fleksy is.
I won't get started on professional looking email addresses because that
wasn't the point of this topic, but I'll just say that this goes hand in
hand with that...
I do think it showing your phone number could very well have to do with the
setting that speaks to communicating with other fleksy users. I believe, but
am not sure, that if you disable that option in settings, it might not show
your phone number...
I don't know if it also disables its ill attempt at marketing/self promotion
as well.
But that was my first thought... A huge turn off unless that can be
disabled.
The technology is neat, and Apple will steel it some day and implement such
an auto correct system, and when it does, it will be fabulous!
IMO there needs to be such an auto correct with the iPhone, without the
added annoyance of having to be dependent on another app to get it;
especially not one with such a price tag.
I do recognize however that with the development that went into the app,
that such a price point from a business perspective would have been more
than necessary in order to make some profit off what would have been a very
hefty development cost.

Amy Billman
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Subject: Fleksy  Self-Marketing

All,

Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text
message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings,
it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen
on list, appears to.

I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if
it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a
free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say
its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple,
revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for
free or lite apps, not charged full ones.

I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I
have added these to settings.


Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Rob Harris
I would like to think this is configurable,   iPhones and Apple have 
been doing this for years - Sent from my iPhone - is one of the more common 
phrases on this and related lists.

RobH.
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Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:37 AM
Subject: Fleksy  Self-Marketing


All,

Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text 
message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, 
it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen 
on list, appears to…

I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if 
it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a 
free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say 
its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, 
revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for 
free or lite apps, not charged full ones.

I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I 
have added these to settings.


Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com

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RE: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Neil, Amy and Rob,

At this point the  Typed with Fleksy is not something you can turn off in
the Settings for the app. The word Fleksy is actually a link to the app
store page for Fleksy and I agree that the developers should either remove
this or make it an option which can be turned on or off. For right now the
only way to get rid of it is to delete it manually from the email once you
are in the mail app which of course partially offsets the time saving effect
you get from faster typing. As far as Rob's comment about the Sent from my
iPhone, yes, that is the default signature, but if you don't want to
advertise the fact that your mobile device is an iPhone all you have to do
is go to the mail settings and delete the signature line or replace it with
something like Sent from my mobile device or, if you are using a business
account, with your business name and contact information.

As for the email link, this you can easily avoid simply by not filling out
the email field with your address. I certainly would not want a link in my
business email which includes my personal address in that way and, by the
way, if you click on it from within Windows it tells you that it does not
know which program to use and asks if you want to search the web.

The good news is that it seems the developers are fairly responsive and I
hope that if enough people request this that they will implement the
signature as an option and, as I said, not filling out phone number and
email solve the other issue and since putting in that information only
serves the one purpose it certainly doesn't matter if you don't put it in. 


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Maria Chapman
HI.  can't the from fleksy stuff be deleted?  I also believe if you simply copy 
the text and then paste it in to an email you don't get all that stuff.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

doesn't bother me all that much, not if it spreads the word and either makes 
sighted people aware of the technology, or lets a blind person who hasn't heard 
of the app hear about it.  I agree with you about professional messages, which 
means i would then delete the fleksy stuff.

Just some thoughts.


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On 15/07/2012, at 8:53 PM, Amy Billman wrote:

 My concern with that is if it can't be turned off somewhere in the app's
 settings, anyone who decides to send an email of a professional nature using
 it will make themselves look very bad.
 It doesn't look professional from an employer perspective, or in the least
 bit cute; never mind nobody's going to know what in hell a Fleksy is.
 I won't get started on professional looking email addresses because that
 wasn't the point of this topic, but I'll just say that this goes hand in
 hand with that...
 I do think it showing your phone number could very well have to do with the
 setting that speaks to communicating with other fleksy users. I believe, but
 am not sure, that if you disable that option in settings, it might not show
 your phone number...
 I don't know if it also disables its ill attempt at marketing/self promotion
 as well.
 But that was my first thought... A huge turn off unless that can be
 disabled.
 The technology is neat, and Apple will steel it some day and implement such
 an auto correct system, and when it does, it will be fabulous!
 IMO there needs to be such an auto correct with the iPhone, without the
 added annoyance of having to be dependent on another app to get it;
 especially not one with such a price tag.
 I do recognize however that with the development that went into the app,
 that such a price point from a business perspective would have been more
 than necessary in order to make some profit off what would have been a very
 hefty development cost.
 
 Amy Billman
 Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
 SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
 http://www.SpeedDots.com
 Follow us on Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
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 Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com; The Accessible Phones Discussion List
 Subject: Fleksy  Self-Marketing
 
 All,
 
 Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text
 message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings,
 it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen
 on list, appears to.
 
 I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if
 it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a
 free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say
 its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple,
 revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for
 free or lite apps, not charged full ones.
 
 I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I
 have added these to settings.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
I'm in the camp of it should be an option, as someone who writes e-mails for 
business using his iOS devices, I really do not want fleksy advertising 
themselves in my mail.

likewise, whether or not I put my e-mail or phone number into the settings 
section, this /reply business needs to go.


Regards,

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On 15 Jul 2012, at 11:37, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

 All,
 
 Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text message, 
 if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, it 
 shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen on 
 list, appears to…
 
 I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if 
 it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a free 
 product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say its not 
 worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, revolutionary, 
 but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for free or lite apps, 
 not charged full ones.
 
 I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I 
 have added these to settings.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Mike Maslo
I personally feel this is a ridiculous complaint

Again my personal view

What next to complain about 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com 
wrote:

 I'm in the camp of it should be an option, as someone who writes e-mails for 
 business using his iOS devices, I really do not want fleksy advertising 
 themselves in my mail.
 
 likewise, whether or not I put my e-mail or phone number into the settings 
 section, this /reply business needs to go.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
 
 URL: - www.talknav.com
 e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
 Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
 
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2012, at 11:37, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text 
 message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, 
 it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen 
 on list, appears to…
 
 I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if 
 it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a 
 free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say 
 its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, 
 revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for 
 free or lite apps, not charged full ones.
 
 I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I 
 have added these to settings.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
 
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RE: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Mike,

To you personally this may be a non issue, however, Neil and many others on
this list including myself do use our iPhones for business/professional
purposes and just as I accept your opinion regarding this you should
understand that something like this has no place in a professional email.
Neil stated that he would have no problem with this as long as there is an
option to disable the promo sentence at the end and I agree since I don't
think I should have to manually erase it in every email I write especially
since for an app this one is definitely not on the cheap side. As for the
link, this is already an option since filling in the phone number and email
fields in the Fleksy settings has only one purpose as far as I can tell and
that is to enable having that link there, so since I don't want it, I just
don't put in that information. All we need now is a checkbox or an On/Off
button for Include Typed by Fleksy signature.


Regards,
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RE: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Richard Turner
I have not bought Fleksy, but what about an optional signature.
Apple automatically gives a signature of Sent from my iPhone or iPad,
etc., but we can edit that, or remove it all together.
And, of course, no app should automatically give your phone number, etc.
Unless, that is stated in the settings that by entering those things, it
becomes part of your document.

Richard

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fleksy  Self-Marketing

Hi Mike,

To you personally this may be a non issue, however, Neil and many others on
this list including myself do use our iPhones for business/professional
purposes and just as I accept your opinion regarding this you should
understand that something like this has no place in a professional email.
Neil stated that he would have no problem with this as long as there is an
option to disable the promo sentence at the end and I agree since I don't
think I should have to manually erase it in every email I write especially
since for an app this one is definitely not on the cheap side. As for the
link, this is already an option since filling in the phone number and email
fields in the Fleksy settings has only one purpose as far as I can tell and
that is to enable having that link there, so since I don't want it, I just
don't put in that information. All we need now is a checkbox or an On/Off
button for Include Typed by Fleksy signature.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Richard,

Fleksy does not automatically include your phone number in an email, I
assume it does in a text message which I haven't tried, but then of course
if you send a text message the recipient has your phone number anyways. If
you send an email and enter your email address it will include some sort of
link at the end which doesn't actually reveal your email which once again is
in the email header anyways, but if you tap that link on an iPhone it will
open Fleksy straight away and let you type a reply. It is meant to
facilitate things for other Fleksy users, but considering that out of many
hundreds of personal and business contacts I have not even 1% maybe Fleksy
users I find this feature rather unimportant and prefer not to confuse all
those people who potentially get an email I typed with Fleksy on a computer
or non iDevice mobile device. In any case, I think as far as I am concerned
that topic is just about exhausted, I think anybody who wants the signature
line to be an option should let the developers know directly since it seems
they are quite responsive and hopefully they will implement this change down
the road.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Barbara Wilson
The app will only give your Email address and phone number if you enter 
these in its settings. Then someone with Fleksy can click on them from 
within your message and they are taken straight to Fleksy to reply.


As for the add, I agree with everyone who says this should be an option, 
either leave or remove.


Barbara


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: supp...@fleksy.com
Subject: RE: Fleksy  Self-Marketing

I have not bought Fleksy, but what about an optional signature.
Apple automatically gives a signature of Sent from my iPhone or iPad,
etc., but we can edit that, or remove it all together.
And, of course, no app should automatically give your phone number, etc.
Unless, that is stated in the settings that by entering those things, it
becomes part of your document.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fleksy  Self-Marketing

Hi Mike,

To you personally this may be a non issue, however, Neil and many others on
this list including myself do use our iPhones for business/professional
purposes and just as I accept your opinion regarding this you should
understand that something like this has no place in a professional email.
Neil stated that he would have no problem with this as long as there is an
option to disable the promo sentence at the end and I agree since I don't
think I should have to manually erase it in every email I write especially
since for an app this one is definitely not on the cheap side. As for the
link, this is already an option since filling in the phone number and email
fields in the Fleksy settings has only one purpose as far as I can tell and
that is to enable having that link there, so since I don't want it, I just
don't put in that information. All we need now is a checkbox or an On/Off
button for Include Typed by Fleksy signature.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Mike Maslo
Just for your information soda why use mine for business

If you voice your opinion so that I

Not saying you're wrong or I'm right

We all have opinions and each of us have the right to express all opinion
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 To you personally this may be a non issue, however, Neil and many others on
 this list including myself do use our iPhones for business/professional
 purposes and just as I accept your opinion regarding this you should
 understand that something like this has no place in a professional email.
 Neil stated that he would have no problem with this as long as there is an
 option to disable the promo sentence at the end and I agree since I don't
 think I should have to manually erase it in every email I write especially
 since for an app this one is definitely not on the cheap side. As for the
 link, this is already an option since filling in the phone number and email
 fields in the Fleksy settings has only one purpose as far as I can tell and
 that is to enable having that link there, so since I don't want it, I just
 don't put in that information. All we need now is a checkbox or an On/Off
 button for Include Typed by Fleksy signature.
 
 
 Regards,
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RE: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Richard Turner
That is why I copied the Fleksy folks with that Email.
As I say, I have not bought Fleksy, so I won't be saying any more.
In fact, I've deleted most of the messages with Fleksy in the subject and
will continue to do so since I don't plan to buy Fleksy anytime soon.

Enjoy,
Richard
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fleksy  Self-Marketing

Hi Richard,

Fleksy does not automatically include your phone number in an email, I
assume it does in a text message which I haven't tried, but then of course
if you send a text message the recipient has your phone number anyways. If
you send an email and enter your email address it will include some sort of
link at the end which doesn't actually reveal your email which once again is
in the email header anyways, but if you tap that link on an iPhone it will
open Fleksy straight away and let you type a reply. It is meant to
facilitate things for other Fleksy users, but considering that out of many
hundreds of personal and business contacts I have not even 1% maybe Fleksy
users I find this feature rather unimportant and prefer not to confuse all
those people who potentially get an email I typed with Fleksy on a computer
or non iDevice mobile device. In any case, I think as far as I am concerned
that topic is just about exhausted, I think anybody who wants the signature
line to be an option should let the developers know directly since it seems
they are quite responsive and hopefully they will implement this change down
the road.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Chuck Dean
As someone who uses his phone for business  this is not a ridiculous 
complaint. My emails are used to move large sums of money, and the emails 
must be extremely clear on instructions, so any erroneous text could 
potentially  be detrimental to a transaction.

I have to go back and strip the text out of any email that I send, so it 
totally negates any speed advantage Fleksy may provide. Therefore, I have 
paid my $15 for Fleksy, but I can not use it for business.

I wrote the developer on day one and said we should have the option to 
remove any Fleksy related tag lines. I suggest you all do the same.
Here is a link to their contact page:

http://fleksy.com/contact/

Chuck

On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:37:58 AM UTC-7, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:


 

 All, 

 Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text 
 message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, 
 it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen 
 on list, appears to… 

 I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, 
 if it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a 
 free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say 
 its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, 
 revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for 
 free or lite apps, not charged full ones. 

 I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if 
 I have added these to settings. 


 Regards, 

 Neil Barnfather 

 Talks List Administrator 
 Twitter @neilbarnfather 

 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
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RE: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Louise Redsull
Chuck

I understand what you are saying but the developer has already come on list
and said it is something they will be addressing in future updates which
shows they are willing to listen to us.

 

Louise.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: 15 July 2012 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Subject: Re: Fleksy  Self-Marketing

 

As someone who uses his phone for business  this is not a ridiculous
complaint. My emails are used to move large sums of money, and the emails
must be extremely clear on instructions, so any erroneous text could
potentially  be detrimental to a transaction.

I have to go back and strip the text out of any email that I send, so it
totally negates any speed advantage Fleksy may provide. Therefore, I have
paid my $15 for Fleksy, but I can not use it for business.

I wrote the developer on day one and said we should have the option to
remove any Fleksy related tag lines. I suggest you all do the same.
Here is a link to their contact page:

http://fleksy.com/contact/

Chuck

On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:37:58 AM UTC-7, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:



 

All, 

Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text
message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings,
it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen
on list, appears to. 

I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if
it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a
free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say
its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple,
revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for
free or lite apps, not charged full ones. 

I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I
have added these to settings. 


Regards, 

Neil Barnfather 

Talks List Administrator 
Twitter @neilbarnfather 

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your 
accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com 

URL: - www.talknav.com 
e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com 
Phone: - +44  844 999 4199 




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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi Chuck.
Does fleksy even put that link in when you copy and paste the text in to an 
email? If not, you could do business emails that way.
I don't have fleksy as of yet so I'm just offering that as a maybe.

On 2012-07-15, at 1:43 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:

 As someone who uses his phone for business  this is not a ridiculous 
 complaint. My emails are used to move large sums of money, and the emails 
 must be extremely clear on instructions, so any erroneous text could 
 potentially  be detrimental to a transaction.
 
 I have to go back and strip the text out of any email that I send, so it 
 totally negates any speed advantage Fleksy may provide. Therefore, I have 
 paid my $15 for Fleksy, but I can not use it for business.
 
 I wrote the developer on day one and said we should have the option to remove 
 any Fleksy related tag lines. I suggest you all do the same.
 Here is a link to their contact page:
 
 http://fleksy.com/contact/
 
 Chuck
 
 On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:37:58 AM UTC-7, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
 
 
  
 All, 
 
 Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text message, 
 if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, it 
 shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen on 
 list, appears to… 
 
 I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if 
 it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a free 
 product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say its not 
 worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, revolutionary, 
 but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for free or lite apps, 
 not charged full ones. 
 
 I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I 
 have added these to settings. 
 
 
 Regards, 
 
 Neil Barnfather 
 
 Talks List Administrator 
 Twitter @neilbarnfather 
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your 
 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com 
 
 URL: - www.talknav.com 
 e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com 
 Phone: - +44  844 999 4199 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Rose Morales
You have to copy And paste when replying to an email using fleksy if you want 
to keep a thread intact anyway. Just a thought. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Chuck.
 Does fleksy even put that link in when you copy and paste the text in to an 
 email? If not, you could do business emails that way.
 I don't have fleksy as of yet so I'm just offering that as a maybe.
 
 On 2012-07-15, at 1:43 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:
 
 As someone who uses his phone for business  this is not a ridiculous 
 complaint. My emails are used to move large sums of money, and the emails 
 must be extremely clear on instructions, so any erroneous text could 
 potentially  be detrimental to a transaction.
 
 I have to go back and strip the text out of any email that I send, so it 
 totally negates any speed advantage Fleksy may provide. Therefore, I have 
 paid my $15 for Fleksy, but I can not use it for business.
 
 I wrote the developer on day one and said we should have the option to 
 remove any Fleksy related tag lines. I suggest you all do the same.
 Here is a link to their contact page:
 
 http://fleksy.com/contact/
 
 Chuck
 
 On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:37:58 AM UTC-7, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
 
 
  
 All, 
 
 Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text 
 message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, 
 it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen 
 on list, appears to… 
 
 I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, 
 if it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a 
 free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say 
 its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, 
 revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for 
 free or lite apps, not charged full ones. 
 
 I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if 
 I have added these to settings. 
 
 
 Regards, 
 
 Neil Barnfather 
 
 Talks List Administrator 
 Twitter @neilbarnfather 
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your 
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Re: Fleksy Self-Marketing

2012-07-15 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi Mathew,
Yes , copying and pasting text works, but the time saved with Fleksy would 
be lost in this action.

Hi Louise,
I was addressing a specific person who said the complaint was ridiculous. 
Actually, this is a moot point for me,, as the IOS 5.0 bug  has made my 
iPhone too unreliable to do trades. I am again anchored  to my P C .

Chuck




On Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:10:12 AM UTC-7, Matthew Campbell wrote:

 Hi Chuck.
 Does fleksy even put that link in when you copy and paste the text in to 
 an email? If not, you could do business emails that way.
 I don't have fleksy as of yet so I'm just offering that as a maybe.

 On 2012-07-15, at 1:43 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:

 As someone who uses his phone for business  this is not a ridiculous 
 complaint. My emails are used to move large sums of money, and the emails 
 must be extremely clear on instructions, so any erroneous text could 
 potentially  be detrimental to a transaction.

 I have to go back and strip the text out of any email that I send, so it 
 totally negates any speed advantage Fleksy may provide. Therefore, I have 
 paid my $15 for Fleksy, but I can not use it for business.

 I wrote the developer on day one and said we should have the option to 
 remove any Fleksy related tag lines. I suggest you all do the same.
 Here is a link to their contact page:

 http://fleksy.com/contact/

 Chuck

 On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:37:58 AM UTC-7, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:


  

 All, 

 Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text 
 message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, 
 it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen 
 on list, appears to… 

 I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, 
 if it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a 
 free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say 
 its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, 
 revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for 
 free or lite apps, not charged full ones. 

 I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number 
 if I have added these to settings. 


 Regards, 

 Neil Barnfather 

 Talks List Administrator 
 Twitter @neilbarnfather 

 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your 
 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com 

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